Senator McCain taped a segment on Ellen's show to air today, perhaps to show he's hip with the gays. Or the under-112 set. But I digress.
What McCain had to say was interesting in many ways--including his lack of honesty on his position regarding domestic partnerships. He told Ellen he opposed gay marriage--or her "position" on that issue, a strange way to put it when it is not a "position" to her, but an issue that affects her everyday life as she intends to marry her partner now that the California Supreme Court has asserted the legality of the practice.
But then he went on to once again redefine his position on the issue:
McCain, who also opposes an amendment to the Constitution to ban same-sex unions, said people should be encouraged to enter into legal agreements, particularly for insurance and other areas where decisions need to be made.
The problem is that McCain himself not only supported an amendment to the Arizona Constitution in 2006 that would have banned any "legal agreements" including "insurance" for domestic partners, but he cut advertisements for the measure (which failed). He also told prominent campaign supporter the late Jerry Falwell--who blamed 9/11 on gays and lesbians, among others--that if state constitutional measures such as this one were struck down by the courts, he would then support a federal gay-marriage banFrom my book, The Real McCain:
Yet the state constitutional amendment that he stumped for in Arizona that year would have banned not only gay marriage but also all benefits for domestic partners — including hospital visits. In July 2004, McCain also took the position that a fed-eral amendment was unnecessary because the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) already allowed states to refuse to recognize gay marriages sanctioned in other states. For that reason, the federal constitutional amendment was “un-Republican.”42 Three months earlier, he had told Jerry Falwell he would support such an amendment if state constitutional bans were struck down by the courts.
Here is more on McCain's promise to Falwell to support a federal ban.
Here is a description of the 2006 Arizona ban:
Sen. John McCain said Thursday that he supports an initiative that would change Arizona's Constitution to ban gay marriages and deny government benefits to unmarried couples.
Finally, I am unable to find the video right now, but when I do, I'll post an ad McCain cut in Arizona in support of the amendment that would have banned the very "insurance" and other "legal agreements" for domestic partners that he claimed to favor on "The Ellen DeGeneres show."
Update: The "scary judges" advertisement featuring Mccain:
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Great work, Cliff, as always.
signed:
some other guy named Cliff
Did Ellen ask him “who are you and what have you done with John McCain?”
Thanks other guy named Cliff
Old flying man speak with forked tounge.
Slightly OT:
McCain rejects Hagee endorsement.
Case closed.
Nothing to see.
Move on.
Wow, McShame lied. I am shocked, shocked and dismayed. NOT
fucking boooshit
Ditz on tweety says it was smart of McCain to dump this fucking idiot “quickly”.
More McSame flippity-floppity. He’s opposed to same sex unions except when trying to pander to an audience that is deeply concerned about equal rights for same-sex couples.
Naturally the traditional media will NEVER call him on any of this.
McCain is gonna find himself literally running around in circles if this shit keeps up. This ol’ dude is so full of shit his irises are brown. He really needs to pick Short Ride as his VP choice.
Hear his statement on the GI Bill and Barak?
UNION CITY, Calif. (AP) — Republican John McCain said Thursday that Democrat Barack Obama had no right to criticize McCain’s position on military scholarships because the Illinois senator did not serve in uniform.
“And I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did,” the Arizona senator said in a harshly worded statement issued Thursday.
So, basically no one can criticize McCain unless they served in uniform….because they are unpatriotic Americans.
Yea, and Webb, Hagel, Kerry, Murtha, ME, Dragon, CT, the Flamethrower el al!
You can Digg this post HERE
So, John McCain is a hypocritical, pandering flip-flopper on the issue of gay marriage.
Which reminds me, on another hypocritical flip-flopping front…
John McCain supports torture of human beings by the United States of America.
John McCain:
Worse than Bush
Politicians going on “popular” entertainment programs like letterman, degeneris, leno, et al is merely an experession of the sorry state of political discourse in the U.S.. These talk show hosts are doing all that they can to keep the “citizens” distracted and dumbed down and the citizens are nothing more than trained seals applauding on cue.
cept us huh?
So Raven, what’s your point?
What a great plan! Next he’ll tell us you can’t criticize his staff members’ lobbying for the Burmese dictatorship unless you’re from Burma…
You respond to the Dragon and ask me what my point is?
Raven, it’s a simple question. What is your point?
Any trained seal could figure it out.
What a wit!
FDL has a new post up: GRITtv: War, Inc.
If Mc Cain had not gone on the Ellen show and made these statements that conflict with his earlier stance then what would we be talking about?
I must say I really like what Laura is doing but having tv shows online doesn’t exactly promote conversation.
Hey mods, there is a “You Are a Winner” window that beeps constantly, wtf?
John McCain: Too extreme for Ellen Degeneres. Too extreme for gay Americans. (This message is funded by EvilDrPuma For Somebody A Lot Less Extreme Than John McCain.)
It seems that the commenters are spread out all over the place, because there are so many posts…sometimes it’s like a wild goose chase to find out where everybody is, and you find yourself talking to yourself…again:)
Republofascist extremists….
But McCain let Bush criticize him, and Bush volunteered to avoid a war zone and then failed to complete his service.
John McCain: Too extreme for Americans who have and have not served in uniform. (This message is funded by EvilDrPuma For Somebody A Lot Less Extreme Than John McCain.)
Is being a Senator, serving your country?
Obama better start showing up in some kind of uniform or the next thing you know, McCain will call Obama an enemy combatant because he’s not wearing a uniform.
so, where are they now?
But, LS, it’s just not the same thing as serving in uniform, which is the only kind of service that matters when John McCain says so.
John McCain: Too extreme for anybody who can think about more than one side of an issue.
i though the flag pin in his lapel was his uniform?
Mitt Romney claimed that his sons were serving their country by working in their father’s presidential campaign.
Apparently Mittens cannot discern the difference between one’s personal interests and the national interest
It’s called “Being a
Rich White ManRepublican.”John McCain: Too extreme for anybody who can think
about more than one side of an issueHe could do what Republicans always do and just wrap himself up in the flag.
Come to think of it:
hahahaha
Now, take out the “for anybody”…
We can even go farther than that:
ROFL that takes the prize!
From TPM Election Central
A Blast From The Past!!
Here’s another stupid thing about McCain…he didn’t repudiate Hagee until now because Hagee is not his personal pastor….not because of what the man has said…until today, because of outside pressure, not because he didn’t like what Hagee said…. but he still had to throw in the “not my pastor” crappola. He is just a bonehead.
LOL
John McCain: No. (This message is funded by me. You got a problem with that, McTough Guy?)
And Obama can call him on the voter caging stuff and the USA scandal and point out all of the corrupt activities of Bushco.
Hayell, just give Obama Hugh’s list!!
So McCain was for Hagee before he was against him. Where have I heard that before?
Unsurprising. The obvious difference is that Obama has shown himself willing and able to practice the manly arts of self-defense.
McCain didn’t worry about the Catholics(The Pope will guide them correctly) but was scared about losing Florida’s Jewish voting community.
McCain was for Hagee because Hagee was for McCain. Now that McCain isn’t for Hagee, will Hagee not be for McCain? Will Hagee declare a Crusade? Sounds like his style.
Griffin won’t be a surprise due to his past. His dark and creepy, slimey past.
McCain’s got a bad temper and is a bully….Obama knows how to fight…reminds me of when you were little and somebody put their outstretched hand against your forehead and you just couldn’t reach them while you flailed away.
A pastor by the name of Hagee
Thought it fun to talk like a Nazi
He said that the Shoah
Was a divine get-to-know-ya
And McCain soon turned pasty and fleed.
“belligerent, angry, over the top response from McCain”…on Tweety
Response to what, exactly? Or, it being McCain, shall we just take it as given that he’s belligerent, angry, and over the top on any given subject?
As Freud said, sometimes a worm is just a worm.
McTantrum! Cries All The Time!!
Reject and deny
Renounce and decry
What a lie
This morning whinning Laura Ingraham was very annoyed with McCain for his kindness, if that’s the word, or pandering, to Ellen. She did not think he at all stood up for family values…..she thinks, I guess, family values come best when one is snotty and snarky and ridicules everyone not wearing the same letter Jacket. So he was definitely getting it from that corner.