Obama yesterday on John McCain’s foreign policy:
“I won’t talk to that guy. And I won’t talk to that guy. And I won’t talk to that guy.”
He forgot to add "bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran". So McCain flack Tucker Bounds will have to get right on that by issuing a press release with that clarification [and by the way, with a name like that he was born to be a GOP Press flack].
This "not talking" policy, of course, is the self-declared Bush foreign policy [and stifle it Sid Blumenthal and go back to emailing right-wing blog posts to the press].
A week ago, President Bush delivered a speech to the Israeli Parliament likening attempts to “negotiate with the terrorists and radicals” to appeasement before World War II.
A policy that is so awesome, it’s being ignored by the usual subjects to which it is directed.
The diminishing fortunes of the Bush administration and the resurgent fortunes of Hezbollah may be behind the surprising announcement that Syria and Israel are renewing peace talks.
The announcements Wednesday by the two countries, which said Israel and Syria would launch talks in Ankara under Turkish auspices, came despite longstanding U.S. opposition to talks with Syria.
Score another victory for the awesome powers of Bush.
The Israel-Syria announcement, in particular, offers an interesting case study, because Israeli officials have said for months that the United States was the only obstacle blocking talks with Syria, which both Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Defense Minister Ehud Barak advocated.
In particular, Elliott Abrams, Mr. Bush’s deputy national security adviser, has cautioned against an Israeli-Syria negotiation, according to Israeli and Bush administration officials. Administration officials said they feared that such a negotiation would appear to reward Syria at a time when the United States was seeking to isolate it for its meddling in Lebanon and its backing of Hezbollah.
And, of course, this isolation and prevention of constructive engagement worked so well that Hezbollah was essentially able to put itself in a position of strength so pervasive it will now pretty much have veto power over the make up of the Lebanese government. But because of the Bush Administration’s intransigence, that is the best deal that could now be obtained.
We certainly want four more years of that kind of august non-achievement.
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Plus McDumb says he will release his medical records….but not any psychiatric ones (maybe not medical, I don’t know)
One of the things that bothers me about the right wing attacks on Obama’s “negotiation policy” is how it accuses him of using negotiation as the only policy. Obviously, Obama would use a different tactic if that wasn’t working.
Anyone who negotiates is obviously a f*ggot.
Which brings us to KKKathleen Parker’s masterpiece in the
Washington Post last week.
Morning, Reb – morning all. Chilly but improving in Upstate New York and I see that McNobrain is still behaving as if he’s permanently afixed to Bush and Cheney’s hip. Nice choice of VP contenders from the last thread – I still think he’s going to go with the guy who is least competant. No mention of the Huckster, I see. Nice choices the Republicans have this year – if I were a downticket person, I’d be banging my head on the wall.
I had blessedly forgotten. Im going to focus on NOT paying any attention to her. She pops up in my paper every so often.
OT
ok, is this post bold for anyone?
I opened up IE here and the other posts were bold but this one isn’t.
Heh. Bold is gone. Seems like mimosas & sherry did the trick.
yep!
a little magic from the tech crew.
Rangel was really great on Washington Journal. Ripped thru W like a hot knife thru butter, while emphasizing “this great nation.” Just the right combo. Not enuf “great nation” stuff from D prez candidates.
So they’re the ones who embibed? Whatever it takes!
Thanks so much to the tech crew.
and I tweaked the mirror a little. Good morning, ECahn.
…because peace is not in the Bush vocabulary. They can’t make money off of peace.
(Yeah, tech crew! Bolds gone.)
Why is it that I get this image of Bush/Cheney et al. at about the age of 13, in the hallways of some horrific middle school, banging the lockers, talking behind their hands and getting ticked off because someone talked to someone else they don’t like?
I hate to simplify this very good post, but the fact is that the Rs have NO foreign policy. It’s all winging it, whith heavy emphasis on war.
We keep looking for some theme, but there isn’t one. The mosre books I read on what has gone on during the last 7+ years, the more I realize that it’s a complete mess, with certain power centers “winning” at some times, and others at other times.
*waving to TW* (& everyone else).
“When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.”
Makes you wonder, doesn’t it?
There was an op-ed in the WSJ yesterday, by Lieberman of course, saying that Kennedy never talked to Castro – as if this policy of not talking to Castro for the last 50 years has done anybody any good.
Gee, I think I’ve said that on more than one occassion to my army major efriend. He never seems to have a comeback.
Syllogized Chimp.
Major premise: We don’t negotiate with terrorists.
Minor premise: Anyone who doesn’t fully agree with me is a terrorist.
Conclusion: We don’t negotiate with anyone who doesn’t fully agree with me.
Yeah, look where that got us.
We don’t negotiate with terrorists unless they’re on our side.
Your characterization is good.
Mine is: W won’t talk to anyone until they agree with everything he wants in advance (unless he decides to talk with them).
and if they come to his ranch in Crawford.
And of course the irony is that if you’re in full agreement with someone already you have no need to negotiate with them.
and if he donated tons of money to the GOP.
and if he’s an oil executive.
There’s a R on Washington Journal (Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin) who’s trying to talk sense. Wonder how long before they drum him out of the party.
Even Israel’s thumbing it’s nose at Bush’s foreign non-policy. That’s gotta hurt.
Hey Elliott(Abrams)! Yeah, you, fenderhead. Suck. On. This.
That’s the point.
I’ve known people like that in my personal life too.
I read something about the Israel reaction also. Why should the rebuff surprise anyone since what he says is unintellible. Does he ever look at an interview or speech he has provided to his subjects?
Another perfect question for the “one word answer man.”
No.
Use of the word “subjects” is telling, since that’s the way W thinks about everyone else.
And no, of course, they don’t think about how other people think. They’re genetically incapable of doing so.
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.
More seriously, one would have to be three days dead or blind not to see the damage a policy driven by ideologues has caused throughout not only the Middle East, but the world in general, over the last 8 years. Even worse is that world leaders have aided and abetted the rape and pillage of the poorer countries by trade policies which benefit primarily the 2 percenters of this country.
from the very start of my tenure here at the lake I have been telling everyone that this president is a “dispensationalist”
these are people that really do believe the “armageddon” is a GOOD thing, they actually think that they will be part of the “prophesy” that goes to heaven
the actual “prophesy” of the rapture is a relative new concept and it is bastardization of the “comming of the age”, the new ‘era’ is actually the changing of the contellation, the water bearer, the fish, etc
at any rate, these “dispenasaitonalists” think they can actually force the hand of god and “bring it on”
this is the president’s goal
now, whether or not he personally believes in “armageddon” and “the rapture’ doesn’t really matter, they think if they tell the base that’s what’s happening they will be able to do what they want at will and literally steal the wealth of planet earth
they do have that “armageddon mountain” (which I forget the name but someone can post it for me), to live their lives and their families lives in what they consider some kind of uetopia
What if it’s *not* just the two percenters of this country?
What if it’s the two percenters of the world? Dare I think that?
Sheila Jackson Lee coming up on WJ, to talk about the oil exec hearing yesterday
that hearing is must see teeVee btw
What can you possibly mean:)? I just heard that W is off to tell the troops that the surge has succeeded….I think maybe he should go back and watch his interview with Engels for a comment on reality.
I completely believe you. I went to a forum where one member (a very successful busines man) was looking at the future of the world on the script of Revelations. It is a shock to hear someone make a serious arguement based on that premise. Scary.
hook him up with that youtube that shows the real meaning of armageddon and it’s relationship with the constellation
“rapture” is a bizarre misrepresentation of the comming of the new era and it’s brutally obvious once shown
I don’t have a link but a quick google search will give you a number of youtubes, have a look and take your pick
Have a good day, pups.
Everybody’s wonderin’ what and where they all came from.
Everybody’s worryin’ ’bout where they’re gonna go when the whole thing’s done.
But no one knows for certain and so it’s all the same to me.
I think I’ll just let the mystery be.
Some say once you’re gone you’re gone forever, and some say you’re gonna come back.
Some say you rest in the arms of the Saviour if in sinful ways you lack.
Some say that they’re comin’ back in a garden, bunch of carrots and little sweet peas.
I think I’ll just let the mystery be.
Everybody’s wonderin’ what and where they all came from.
Everybody’s worryin’ ’bout where they’re gonna go when the whole thing’s done.
But no one knows for certain and so it’s all the same to me.
I think I’ll just let the mystery be.
Instrumental break.
Some say they’re goin’ to a place called Glory and I ain’t saying it ain’t a fact.
But I’ve heard that I’m on the road to purgatory and I don’t like the sound of that.
Well, I believe in love and I live my life accordingly.
But I choose to let the mystery be.
Everybody’s wonderin’ what and where they all came from.
Everybody’s worryin’ ’bout where they’re gonna go when the whole thing’s done.
But no one knows for certain and so it’s all the same to me.
I think I’ll just let the mystery be.
I think I’ll just let the mystery be.
Raven, what song is that and by who?
Apparently, those country’s leaders with half-a-brain have figured out that their best bet is to listen intently to what Bush and McCain have to say and then, do the exact opposite. That would seem to be the pathway to successful foreign policy.
There are some international 2 percenters. What is it, the Bitterberg Group, or something like that? I think, however, that their interests are more localized, primarily in Africa and Asia. Like De Beers and diamonds. What is it with diamonds, anyhow? And Chevron and oil. They’ve used repressive regimes for upwards of a century to protect their interests. That said, I think the most dangerous have been the Americans.
But that is one of the not-good outcomes of W’s behavior. Foreign govts haven’t always been wise in the way they conduct themselves either, just by being reactive.
I think back on Chirac & Schroeder in the runup to the Iraq war. The way they objected was juvenile & didn’t help the anti-war effort.
in that case I am sure they have said “don’t impeach us” so the oposite would be very nice indeed
then again, I want to win the lottery, that would be nice as well
I’ll tell you what and I mean it;
given a choice of winning the lottery or having these criminals brought to the bar of justice, I choose justice
I think most here would do the same
Iris DeMent It really needs to be heard. It was in “Little Buddah”.
Bringing these people to justice would be better than winning the lottery.
Morning perris and pups,
This rapture video is hilarious. first minute forty is slow, but picks up at the train wreck. you should be able to fast forward to the trains. Seems the rapture has been coming soon since at least 1941.
Have you heard the John Prine/Iris DeMent album “In Spite of Ourselves”?
And if you really want to tear up watch “My Life” on youtube.
Or, maybe about 80 AD/CE. That’s at least part of why it’s so scary. Thanks
I think I forgot it’s a work day. Thanks for the visit. So Long. B
Oh yea. Prine’s my boy.
Ain’t it funny how a broken bottle, looks just like a diamond ring.
He went to Proviso East, about 5 miles from where I am from in Chicago despite his “Kentucky” sound there is a good bit of the Windy City in his music.
you’re right, sweet!
thanks.
and I’ll check out My Life, too
Hi there bjnts!
She is like Nanci Griffith in that some people just don’t like their voices.
Perris – I gotta tell you, I have this really difficult time wrapping my head around this whole “force the hand of god” thing. (Full disclosure: I was raised in a fairly traditional home with parents who questioned everything about organized religion, but they still took us to temple and my father allowed the local nuns to do prayers for him: belt and suspenders)This is like saying, “You are going to be the G-d I want you to be.” Excuse me? Haven’t they missed the entire point? G-d is like Popeye: “I yam what I yam.”
Ever seen Iris perform?
Years ago WMNF got about 100 grand a year from the state via grant process. One morning they played “Wasteland of the Free” and John Grant, then a state Senator, announced that because they played that song he was going to see that the station never got another penny from the state. His effort proved successful in that respect. The day of his announcing his intention the station did a seat-of-the-pants fundraiser. Raised 120 grand in 24 hours. And told John Grant where he could stick his nastiness. Right after Katrina we did another fundraiser. Raised about 140 grand between 6am and 11pm. Very proud to have manned the phones for the last 4 hours of that one.
Iris Dement is the sweatheart of WMNF.
Great album and John has a home just down the street from me.
Ha. McCain is going to release health data on Friday before Memorial weekend.
Raven since you’re an Iris Dement fan, are you familiar with Sweet is the Melody? If so, I just wonder if you have figured out what the line, “The dance floor’s for gliding, not jumping over ponies”, refers to. Very few folks get this.
Aw man, no. I’ve loved her music for years. Last time John was here he was solo. Sam Stone. . .there but for the grace of something. . .
I can imagine how sanitized that will be.
Nothing to see here.
Move along.
I’ll believe that when I see it,
but it is the best time to release them — for minimum impact(they hope)
I know the song but the line. . .hmm. Somethin from “They Shoot Horses” I thought.
Could be a TPM project to cull thru it. But it’ll probably be short enough that you can read it quickly. You’re right about “sanitized.”
(((eCAHN)))
I’m bringing some toys for pups to play with next month. heard about some yummy enchiladas too. wanted to be surprised by the guest list, but cat got out of bag a lil yesterday. can’t wait to meet TW, TB and of course can’t wait to see you again. perris coming?
gotta bolt, hold down the fort
See above….he’s going to leave out any psychiatric stuff. Go figure.
He was in Atlanta this past Saturday. I was gonna go, but work got in the way.
You mean, anythnig relavent?
I’ll send out new emails mid next week. Haven’t heard from perris yet.
Where do teenagers often have their “Friday night” dances? A locale that serves a dual purpose perhaps? Does that help?
You know, I should also ask – anyone on the guest list gluten sensitive or have issues with cheese?(no one gets sick on my watch, I’m telling you)
Yeah, I noticed there will be no psych records made available, although I guess leakage might be a possibility @ some point.
Two words come to mind on that score- Thomas Eagleton.
I heard that.
Iris was here a few years ago. Had one guy on guitar with her. I was in the 3rd row of a really great venue, the Palladium. Iris walked on stage and the place went bananas. She is our goddess. Two years ago she was at Prine’s birthday party, which was held in a small place here in Gulfport. Fiona Prine flat knows how to put a party together. Iris and John did a couple of tunes. I love that voice. Nancy Griffith as well.
I assume that people with food allergies or preferences will look after themselves. I haven’t received any notices about that issue, but will include it in my next email (if I remember!).
is cbl2 still here have a hopefull article for them
http://www.boston.com/news/loc…..e_kennedy/
Funny that, can’t find youtubes from then. Hmmmm ;-)
Republicans cannot negotiate…they are ‘bullies’. Bushy claims he can’t negotiate with himself..he can only give himself orders. Bushy is clearly delusional and McDipshit is close behind.
Is that Syria appeasing Israel or Israel appeasing Syria? Some Republic clarity is needed here.
For some reason that gives me a very funny mental image.
*on the way out, waves at sadlyyes*
Time to go to work. Sayonara.
Peace Love Light
I’m here. Will pass on a heads up. Thanks.
eCAHN, would you please add me to your mailing list?
not sure if I can make it, but would very much like to.
ellieelliott AT gmail DOT com.
Or Buffy St. Marie.
I too am a huge Iris Dement fan. Also John Prine. There’s a Prine DVD of his “Live from Sessions at West 54th” performance that’s available from Amazon and absolutely worth the price. He performs several songs with Iris, including In Spite of Ourselves which he wrote for the Billy Bob Thornton movie Daddy and Them.
Done.
Mods, you can erase Eliiot’s email in 87 if you wish.
No allergies here yet. Thanks for asking. You had me drooling on the keyboard a little yesterday though. Will be travelling from Oneonta area that day. You’re Ithaca right?
Like the Tower of Babel….who could comprehend?
I believe that. For the most part they deal in absolutes. It’s a full time job for their think tank minions to nuance em up after the fact.
I saw Iris touring with Prine in Phoenix a few years ago. I got to see Nanci thee too. Love them both.
good morning -
that comment above is for you – no doubt talking about EMK and RFK while logged in as me :D
it is already stifling up in here – must be equally bad at work for you X~(
Mornin’ Dogs
According to my newspaper, The Miami Herald, Obama has changed is mind and decided that he too, will not negotiate or meet with our enemies. FLIP-FLOP, FLIP-FLOP, I can just see the ads now. He will pander to the Cuban American committe here in South Florida just like every other politician. I’m sorry, but he twists with the wind and will be sooo easy to campaign against. He’s never actually run against someone other than a candidate he’s been able to eliminate on technicality. I used to consider myself a Democrat. I am an Independent now, ever since the DNC decided my vote in Florida doesn’t count and after hearing Donna Brazile say that they didn’t need the white working class voter any longer, that its a new coalition of youth and inner city voters. She said it on CNN during the Penn primary coverage. I couldn’t believe my ears but I think its time for correction in the party system and this could be it. I will probably always vote Dem in local elections and can live with a majority in Congress with a President from the other party.I think that is healthy.
links?
Okay. Thanks for sharing that.
Ohboyohboyohboy.
Libertarian party convention this weekend.
It’s working splendidly now, isn’t it?
And Donna Brazile was speaking for who?
not me.
so much poop, so little time*g*
Rat Finks Wanted
City Pages via The Raw Story
“OMG — you mean those two got together behind our backs??? What-EV-er. I am so through with Israel. They can have their stinkin’ Syria. Whaddo I care. I never like Israel anyway. I’m just not gonna talk to anyone now til they come crawlin’ back to me. Then I’ll really show ‘em.”
“George this is so not your fault; it’s like totally actually Israel cheating on you.”
“Thanks, Condi. Fool me once — how does that go again? I just can’t believe they didn’t do what I told them they had to do. The nerve.
Petreaus/Odierno hearing starting on CSPAN3.
coming up:
on cspan3 – senate armed services hearing with petraeus and odierno
on cspan2 – senate debates funding another blank check for bush’s wars.
another day of fun, fun, fun from our congress.
I agree with you, and I’m glad to see your post.
There is a very interesting article in today’s NY Times, on the Op-Ed page, about JFK’s meeting with Kruschev. The article is framed in terms of Obama’s position on negotiation and Bush’s.
I don’t think it is either Obama’s OR Bush’s. One reason I like Hillary is she seems to take the more nuanced positions of “Well…it depends…” which Americans, of course, can’t stand. We want a black-and-white answer. Yes, we will negotiate! (Obama); NO, we will not negotiate! (Bush).
Obama has been caught off guard in mere debates with fellow Democrats! He views all slights and challenges as personal affronts. And he seems to share Bush’s thinking that, “If everyone would just listen to me and do as I say, all will be well.”
He makes me nervous.
I think that Condi Rice opposed negotiations between Syria and Israel because she sees them as precipitate. They were not preceded by talks on talks to establish ground rules for a beginning leading to a blue print for negotiations at at a later date, which is how she prefers to do things.
One caveat to agreeing with you: this country cannot withstand another Republican president right now.
No way. McCain cannot win (although I fear we’re going to have a repeat of ‘00, with Obama getting the popular vote but losing the election).
binghamton – I play with fiddlers around CNY and have done a Scandinavian fiddlers parade in Ithaca(oo, IthacaFest is coming up — the parade is definitely worth the visit).
I understand that she was hung up on some details about the shape of the table.
Me too…enjoy+++
Don’t forget the sound effects of slamming the hall lockers. ;)
The VP
auctionauditionRight, Black. You don’t even lie with competence.
Good Morning Attaturk and Firedogs,
I’m down with anything that makes Elliot Abrams head explode
and sigh Sidney, You broke my heart Fredo . . .you broke my heart
This is starting out as a Petraeus, Odierno love-fest. You can tell the difference between the two. Petraeus is the smarmy one while Odierno is the idiot. Hope this helps.
Did Black say whether Rev. Moon would be partying with them?
Heh-heh.
Right. They could have spent 2 years negotiating over the shape of the table. I believe there’s good historical precedent for that…
Stuff to do. Catch up later.
Can’t resist a parting shot.
Petreus sez ME is “rich in oil reserves but poor in water.”
To which I say, Let them drink oil.
Now here’s a table:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..&NR=1
I think we should put together some sort of stand up comedy piece…you folks are good. Let’s have a toast
Do you think Black will pull a Cheney and affix himself to the ticket as VP?
*rubbing hands together with glee*
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email your freinds
I’ll make a note to check that when I get home. Can’t do videos at work…
Accompanied by some theme music, may be The Wizard of Oz, “If I only had a brain….”
Morning all! Guess what! we may get a prez who reads! check out BAGnewsNotes
He can probably Blackmail him for whatever he wants, I imagine.
i wonder if the c-span folks have been instructed not to give good coverage of the protesters?
Wow..that is a great picture. Silly me…makes me swoon.
And ‘who put the ape in apricot’ speech too.
my c-span3 dropped out when protesters started yelling. shucks
selise– MSNBC just promised to show the protestors, but I did wonder the same thing.
btw– what the hell wrong is Iran doing in Afghanistan– they are HELPING.
Now Petboy is lauding Pakistan— argh!
lies, lies, lies.
yep.
is it too much to hope that one of the senators will call him on it?
huh…I guess the next question is – how many languages does he speak or read? Not that this is a deal breaker, mind you…
Now bashing Syria for “harboring terrorists and developing nukes”.
(no mention of their sheltering the refugees we created!)
somebody help us.
I don’t know, but English alone would be an improvement.
They cannot confirm this liar– it’s like listening to Bush’s speeches and allegations.
will the good senators take the General to task for going the Appeasement route ????
gawd Chimpy, he’s just not in to you
Great song, great artist. Anyone who’s ever been to seminary knows, and they are taught this, that the book of Revelations in the Christian Bible is for scholars. It is prophecy and hasn’t happened yet. Nobody, thats NOBODY, knows what is going to happen. There are some who like to think they do and they would like you (us) to believe they do, but they don’t
There is only one entity who does and He/She isn’t saying and will move in their own time. It will come like a thief in the night, and no man knows.
who wrote the Book of Revelation?
It’s the chorus to Who Wrote the Book of Love.”
well I did find revelation there!
AP: WASHINGTON–A top Democrat signals support to promote Gen. Petraeus
It says “The Revelation of Saint John the Divine”, but I hear there’s some argument about that.
AP: WASHINGTON–A top Democrat signals support to promote Gen. Petraeus
Translation: Democrats set to cave again.
A top Senate Democrat signals support for promotion of Petraeus, his deputy
So P. said he would “probably” draw troop levels down further in August after his 45 day pause but he doesn’t say how many and Levin doesn’t ask him how many. Wow, such incisive non-answers to non-questions.
hearing is now on CSPAN 3
http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs…..8;Code=CS3
“Regardless of one’s view of the wisdom of the policy that took us to Iraq in the first place and has kept us there over five years, we owe Gen. Petraeus and Gen. Odierno a debt of gratitude for the commitment, determination and strength that they brought to their areas of responsibility,” said Levin, D-Mich., at the start of a confirmation hearing for the two generals.” Why does this remind me of the ‘loyalty’ discussion between Tom Cruise and Cuba Gooding, Jr. in “Jerry McGuire”?
McCain’s Pastor Hagee Love’s Him some End Times upstairs.
*GASP*
Israel is an appeaser!
Just like the Nazi lovers of times gone by!
Israel is Neville Chamberlain! in 2008, though.
Why does Israel hate Bu$hCo?
P. now talking about turning over more provinces to Iraqi control. Levin points out that Basra was just turned over. Neither mention the recent battle there. Neither really say what Iraqi control really means.
is it my imagination or has the kabuki gotten progressively more lame during the past year?
P. says provincial elections will not be held in October but in the fall. These are key and any slippage or delay is a bad sign. Also no mention of likely gains by Sadr if these elections are even remotely fair.
warner says that events in sadr city are a hopeful sign?
It’s standard buying into the Republican narrative on the Iraq war. Everything is a good sign and shows that we are making progress.
Going upstairs.
Sounds like that quote, Fool me once, shame etc. whatever that mangled quote is about can’t lie and fool the people all the time. Maybe if W could have remembered the quote, he could have learned something. Sigh…
Did he say not in Oct, but in the fall….is some places, Oct. is the fall. Wonder what he really wanted to say.
Elliot Abrams. Remind me again why he’s not in jail? From Wikipedia:
Because you know, we need more convicts running our foreign affairs. I guess that when he filled out that background investigation questionnaire he probably just wrote “see Dick or George” when asked if had ever been convicted of anything.
Also the son-in-law of Normy Podhoretz I believe. We are truly ruled by criminals.
Done.