Comments on: No, Amanda, There Is No “Social Security Problem” http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:34:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: BooRadley http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1456616 BooRadley Thu, 22 May 2008 03:52:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1456616 <p>thanks Mommybrain.</p> thanks Mommybrain.

]]> By: siri http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1456274 siri Wed, 21 May 2008 23:27:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1456274 <p>Jane, it’s admirable that you are willing to take on these people. That is my first thought on this debate. My second thought is why are you wasting your valuable time trying to get to sane ground with someone so selfish and self centered who is representing (the voice of) the most selfish and self centered portion or our society today?<br /> You are a highly valued voice for the sane America where I was born and raised. That America I see assaulted and threatened and damaged almost daily since Bu$hCo took office. We need you in better corners than with these creatures who look and speak like humans, but are inhuman and inhumane in public and private practice.<br /> Rethink your battlegrounds? Talking to someone like this is generally a waste of breath and energy. I wouldn’t SAY that had Amanda Carpenter come to any intelligent change of heart and/or mind in the course of this discussion.<br /> JANE! We LOVE you. Come back!!!!!<br /> hehe</p> Jane, it’s admirable that you are willing to take on these people. That is my first thought on this debate. My second thought is why are you wasting your valuable time trying to get to sane ground with someone so selfish and self centered who is representing (the voice of) the most selfish and self centered portion or our society today?
You are a highly valued voice for the sane America where I was born and raised. That America I see assaulted and threatened and damaged almost daily since Bu$hCo took office. We need you in better corners than with these creatures who look and speak like humans, but are inhuman and inhumane in public and private practice.
Rethink your battlegrounds? Talking to someone like this is generally a waste of breath and energy. I wouldn’t SAY that had Amanda Carpenter come to any intelligent change of heart and/or mind in the course of this discussion.
JANE! We LOVE you. Come back!!!!!
hehe

]]> By: KayInMaine http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1456176 KayInMaine Wed, 21 May 2008 21:53:20 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1456176 <p>That’s right Jane! The right wingers of America like the idea of stealing large sums of money fast, so privatizing Social Security is one more way to do it! Savings & Loan, invading Iraq, have been the two other ways in recent history…</p> <p>Great video. The right winger is a dumbass who only has right wing slogans. Hysterical.</p> That’s right Jane! The right wingers of America like the idea of stealing large sums of money fast, so privatizing Social Security is one more way to do it! Savings & Loan, invading Iraq, have been the two other ways in recent history…

Great video. The right winger is a dumbass who only has right wing slogans. Hysterical.

]]> By: Kewalo http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1456084 Kewalo Wed, 21 May 2008 20:35:04 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1456084 <p>I’m sorry I came to the conversation so late and hope you get this link.</p> <p><a href="http://www.aarpmagazine.org/money/Articles/myths_and_truths_about_social_security.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.aarpmagazine.org/mo.....urity.html</a></p> <p>And please bear in mind that SS is not a pension fund but an insurance fund that covers orphans and the disabled as well as seniors.</p> I’m sorry I came to the conversation so late and hope you get this link.

http://www.aarpmagazine.org/mo…..urity.html

And please bear in mind that SS is not a pension fund but an insurance fund that covers orphans and the disabled as well as seniors.

]]> By: newspaperbrat http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1456035 newspaperbrat Wed, 21 May 2008 20:12:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1456035 <p>LOL! reality truly is da best medicine.</p> <p>Would so appreciate your encyclopedic brain noodling on the Spike Lee smackdown from Cannes on Clint Eastwood’s<br /> <strike></strike>racist<strike></strike>, revisionist history in his recent critically “acclaimed” Iwo Jima film. Our local DFH Dirty Harry email alert join me in thanking you in advance for any music linky you may suggest to enhance our next Clint Watch email alert. ;~)</p> LOL! reality truly is da best medicine.

Would so appreciate your encyclopedic brain noodling on the Spike Lee smackdown from Cannes on Clint Eastwood’s
racist, revisionist history in his recent critically “acclaimed” Iwo Jima film. Our local DFH Dirty Harry email alert join me in thanking you in advance for any music linky you may suggest to enhance our next Clint Watch email alert. ;~)

]]> By: perris http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1455965 perris Wed, 21 May 2008 19:22:42 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1455965 <p>the only “trouble” it faces is the fact that the administration uses the excess to fund other programs, reagan used social security to give tax presents to the wealthy, clinton did the same thing however greenspan raised the social security tax when it was pointed out boomers would soon be eligable</p> <p>I believe the only time the ss is not solvent is in worst case scenario and even then it would still be solvent if we reclaimed the assets that were taken from the program</p> the only “trouble” it faces is the fact that the administration uses the excess to fund other programs, reagan used social security to give tax presents to the wealthy, clinton did the same thing however greenspan raised the social security tax when it was pointed out boomers would soon be eligable

I believe the only time the ss is not solvent is in worst case scenario and even then it would still be solvent if we reclaimed the assets that were taken from the program

]]> By: gbbalto http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1455922 gbbalto Wed, 21 May 2008 18:52:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1455922 <p>1. Can anyone point me to a concise explanation of why SS won’t be in trouble? I tend to be persuaded by the past Comptroller General of the US’s opinion that it is. This is not the same as favoring privatization - see below.</p> <p>2. I know of another country also running an annual surplus on their national pension plan. Instead of borrowing all of it for current expenditure, they have set up a governmental investment fund that is buying a wide array of equities in all sectors, domestic and foreign. They ARE still putting about 40% into national bonds (i.e. borrowing it). So when the surplus runs out, they will have dividends and sale of equities to make up the shortfall without borrowing (at least for a while). How is this not better than either the current system or privatization?</p> 1. Can anyone point me to a concise explanation of why SS won’t be in trouble? I tend to be persuaded by the past Comptroller General of the US’s opinion that it is. This is not the same as favoring privatization – see below.

2. I know of another country also running an annual surplus on their national pension plan. Instead of borrowing all of it for current expenditure, they have set up a governmental investment fund that is buying a wide array of equities in all sectors, domestic and foreign. They ARE still putting about 40% into national bonds (i.e. borrowing it). So when the surplus runs out, they will have dividends and sale of equities to make up the shortfall without borrowing (at least for a while). How is this not better than either the current system or privatization?

]]> By: demi http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1455913 demi Wed, 21 May 2008 18:48:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1455913 <p>Bobby!!!<br /> As I’ve told you before, Wednesday night is take mom for a walk in the park night - me, my sissy (my son and husband) and I. We usually get takeout food to eat at mom’s afterward, but today I’m baking a chicken and making some salads to take over there.<br /> Oh, and, baking some chocolate chip cookies, too.<br /> We love them while they are still here — which is not to say we love our daddies any less, now that they have left this earth — they’ve flown away.<br /> (”I’ll fly away….”)</p> Bobby!!!
As I’ve told you before, Wednesday night is take mom for a walk in the park night – me, my sissy (my son and husband) and I. We usually get takeout food to eat at mom’s afterward, but today I’m baking a chicken and making some salads to take over there.
Oh, and, baking some chocolate chip cookies, too.
We love them while they are still here — which is not to say we love our daddies any less, now that they have left this earth — they’ve flown away.
(”I’ll fly away….”)

]]> By: demi http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1455895 demi Wed, 21 May 2008 18:42:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1455895 <p>Hey wangster.<br /> You never fail to crack my shit up!</p> Hey wangster.
You never fail to crack my shit up!

]]> By: BobbyG http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1455894 BobbyG Wed, 21 May 2008 18:42:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/no-amanda-there-is-no-social-security-problem/#comment-1455894 <p>No.</p> <p>Thanks for the kind words.</p> No.

Thanks for the kind words.

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