Comments on: Finally, Barack Obama Gets Specific About What “Change” Is

By: cinnamonape

cinnamonape — Thu, 22 May 2008 04:39:02 +0000

And although Clinton won by those numbers with voters under $30,000 or those without ANY college education…I’d suggest that quite a few working class people make more than $30,000 and/or have some college education. Obama won with those who are, or had a family member in a Union by almost 2:1. I get the sense that when Hillary’s people talk about hard-working White people it doesn’t include anyone that votes for Obama. Maybe those who make over $30K are in the slacking off White Middle Class? Obama won by just the reverse of those numbers for those with salaries under $50,000…which means a massive turnaround for those between $30-50,000. Does she really think she can win without those voters in November ;-)

That’s precisely my point above…her claims that because these voters support Candidate A (Clinton) means they will not support the immediate Priamry opponent (Obama) in the Fall and jump the fence to a Republican who has catastrophic policy differences makes absolutely no sense. Unless, of course, that she’s saying that these voters are selecting her because she’s white and that they will abandon Obama -despite the similarities in their policies- to vote for McCain…because he’s also White. That’s basically saying…my supporters are dumb, white racists…pretty condescending…I wonder if they realize that this is what she’s implying?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20.....lls/#ORDEM

By: cinnamonape

cinnamonape — Thu, 22 May 2008 04:20:04 +0000

What do you consider working class? Does one have to have less than a high school education? Or be above a certain age? I know a lot of college students who are working class with waitress or barista jobs, or working in the back of restaurants. And is a bus driver working class when he pulls in more salary than a part-time professor?

Whats your definition?

By: newtonusr

newtonusr — Thu, 22 May 2008 02:31:10 +0000

Cliff Schecter upstairs…
McCain’s Questionable Association Of The Day: Randy Scheunemann

Just so this doesn’t get lost, let me state it again. Scheunemann is the guy credited with selling McCain on neo-conservatism and “rogue-state rollback” of the Iraq-failure kind. Elect McCain, and we get the man behind Rumsfeld and many, many bad neo-conservative ideas. Of course, he was not too much of a “hawk” to lobby McCain from inside his campaign for his client, the country of Georgia. And what does the State Department have to say about human rights in Georgia?

By: CTuttle

CTuttle — Thu, 22 May 2008 02:19:15 +0000

Shoot, I’m cheap, $50,000 would work for me…! ;-)

By: Petrocelli

Petrocelli — Thu, 22 May 2008 02:18:58 +0000

All I’m sayin’ is … I’m easy but not cheap ! *g*

By: KayInMaine

KayInMaine — Thu, 22 May 2008 02:14:59 +0000

Stop it! You’re killing me. LOL Nite nite. ;-)

By: Petrocelli

Petrocelli — Thu, 22 May 2008 02:14:09 +0000

If HRC offers you $50 Million, could you please refer me to her … I am buyable … *g* … Pleasant Dreams !

By: KayInMaine

KayInMaine — Thu, 22 May 2008 02:13:14 +0000

Nite nite CT! Have a good one! ;-)

By: CTuttle

CTuttle — Thu, 22 May 2008 02:11:38 +0000

Aloha, Kay!

By: KayInMaine

KayInMaine — Thu, 22 May 2008 02:10:42 +0000

I wasn’t on here last night, but I take it whatever it is you’re pointing to was hashed out. ;-)

Selise, that is the real “change” isn’t it? We’ve tried the pasty white “experts” for decades now, and it’s time we give someone who isn’t a DC Insider a chance. It’s making “them” nervous too at the idea of having someone different in office.

Siri, Hillary has become a major disappointment as has Bill, but that’s not to say I’ve loved them every day since 1992! Nope. They had some good qualities back in the day, but now that they’ve aligned themselves with the Bushes (even Terry McAuliffe is best buddies with Karl Rove now!), I want to vomit. I can’t relate to anyone who will sell their souls to THOSE DEVILS. If Hillary said to me one day, “Kay, I’ll give your fifty of my $100 million”, I would spit in her face. That’s how much I don’t like the neocons or anyone who rubs elbows with them to advance themselves. Yucky!

And Petrocelli! They’ll need good Uncles too! You’ll be great. LOL

Dakine01, people conspire all the time. The largest conspiracy ever in the history of our nation we witnessed on 9/11 after it was hashed out in the 1990’s on the sidelines of the Clinton Admin. Funny…we are the ones who are called the “conspiracy nuts” for even questioning any of them on what they knew and when they knew it. Spit. Disgusts me.

Okay everyone! Have a good night. I’m going to bed. Thanks so much for the laughs and insight tonight as always! You’re a great bunch. ;-)