Comments on: Clinton and Obama Reach Out: Can They Prevent A War? http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:25:02 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: boogiecheck http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1456172 boogiecheck Wed, 21 May 2008 21:48:15 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1456172 <p>Thanks, belatedly, for the info. Enlightening, indeed.</p> Thanks, belatedly, for the info. Enlightening, indeed.

]]> By: brandane http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455963 brandane Wed, 21 May 2008 19:20:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455963 <p>Well since it is so fahionable to root for Obama I guess I will have to piss on that parade, I am not a Hillary fan nor do I intend to vote for Her or “the empty suit”. In all fairness, it should be obvious that Hillary is the only one that has a chance to beat McCain and the Main Stream Media, to wit, she is the only one to win the big important states that the winner will have to carry, and she did it without the help of the black vote. Now we all know that if Obama wins the nomination he will get at least 90+% of the black vote, but how much of the rural white vote will he lose, how much of the female vote will he lose, how much of the “working mans ” vote will he lose. I can see a “Insane McCain” presidency on the horizon. Thank god I don’t have a horse in this race. I made up my mind a long time ago not to vote Democratic when Pelosi took impeachment off the table.</p> Well since it is so fahionable to root for Obama I guess I will have to piss on that parade, I am not a Hillary fan nor do I intend to vote for Her or “the empty suit”. In all fairness, it should be obvious that Hillary is the only one that has a chance to beat McCain and the Main Stream Media, to wit, she is the only one to win the big important states that the winner will have to carry, and she did it without the help of the black vote. Now we all know that if Obama wins the nomination he will get at least 90+% of the black vote, but how much of the rural white vote will he lose, how much of the female vote will he lose, how much of the “working mans ” vote will he lose. I can see a “Insane McCain” presidency on the horizon. Thank god I don’t have a horse in this race. I made up my mind a long time ago not to vote Democratic when Pelosi took impeachment off the table.

]]> By: SuburbanGrrrl http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455887 SuburbanGrrrl Wed, 21 May 2008 18:38:11 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455887 <p>I stand corrected on my terminology. My point is exactly as you have stated which was for the wealthy class to pit various working class groups against each other.</p> I stand corrected on my terminology. My point is exactly as you have stated which was for the wealthy class to pit various working class groups against each other.

]]> By: perris http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455667 perris Wed, 21 May 2008 16:35:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455667 <p>no need to opologize ever, we are here to compare notes not to agree with one another</p> <p>most of the times our notes happen to agree but sometimes not so much</p> no need to opologize ever, we are here to compare notes not to agree with one another

most of the times our notes happen to agree but sometimes not so much

]]> By: BooRadley http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455656 BooRadley Wed, 21 May 2008 15:45:50 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455656 <p>Appreciate the background, had no idea. </p> <p>Russ was my first choice for Pres, so you’ll get no argument from me. As Russ is well aware, however, Edwards is from NC. I suppose that explains some of it.</p> Appreciate the background, had no idea.

Russ was my first choice for Pres, so you’ll get no argument from me. As Russ is well aware, however, Edwards is from NC. I suppose that explains some of it.

]]> By: DWBartoo http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455654 DWBartoo Wed, 21 May 2008 15:00:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455654 <p>Scarecrow:</p> <p>Regarding comity between the two groups of ‘partisans’ …</p> <p>The brunt of responsibility for achieving this (assuming ’tis possible) must rest on the shoulders of the ‘loser’. Said person must exhibit real and genuine ‘leadership’ and lead by persuasion as well as by example.</p> <p>THAT will be the true test and measure of capacity, intention, and ‘belief’ …</p> <p>Some responsibility, in fact, a great deal, belongs to the ‘followers’.</p> <p>If this is not undestood, then we all shall lose.</p> <p>If it is understood, then no one truly loses …</p> <p>Should some of the partisans not be able to bring themselves to vote for the ‘other’, so long as they don’t vote for McCain, then they must be allowed that choice without being taken to task … period.</p> <p>Included with the ‘right’ to vote, is the ‘right’ NOT TO VOTE … and such a choice is no less ‘proper’ or ‘appropriate’ than voting in good conscience. (Frankly, those ‘partisans’ who would vote for McCain because ‘the other cannot win’ must fail the test of good conscience, and one must wonder at their understanding and grasp of reality …)</p> Scarecrow:

Regarding comity between the two groups of ‘partisans’ …

The brunt of responsibility for achieving this (assuming ’tis possible) must rest on the shoulders of the ‘loser’. Said person must exhibit real and genuine ‘leadership’ and lead by persuasion as well as by example.

THAT will be the true test and measure of capacity, intention, and ‘belief’ …

Some responsibility, in fact, a great deal, belongs to the ‘followers’.

If this is not undestood, then we all shall lose.

If it is understood, then no one truly loses …

Should some of the partisans not be able to bring themselves to vote for the ‘other’, so long as they don’t vote for McCain, then they must be allowed that choice without being taken to task … period.

Included with the ‘right’ to vote, is the ‘right’ NOT TO VOTE … and such a choice is no less ‘proper’ or ‘appropriate’ than voting in good conscience. (Frankly, those ‘partisans’ who would vote for McCain because ‘the other cannot win’ must fail the test of good conscience, and one must wonder at their understanding and grasp of reality …)

]]> By: nonplussed http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455653 nonplussed Wed, 21 May 2008 14:57:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455653 <p>No, I believe she is a person with serious potential. I think the DLC is pushing her as a rising star within the Party. The SOTU rebuttal this year was a nice little favor. I wonder who awards such things? Doctor Dean?</p> No, I believe she is a person with serious potential. I think the DLC is pushing her as a rising star within the Party. The SOTU rebuttal this year was a nice little favor. I wonder who awards such things? Doctor Dean?

]]> By: merkwurdiglieber http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455652 merkwurdiglieber Wed, 21 May 2008 14:52:43 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455652 <p>Even the MSM talking heads agree on the math, the consensus is that it<br /> is about the “psychology” in the Clinton camp… it has been since winter<br /> and the logic has not changed… no one can talk to the power couple<br /> about it yet, it is up to them to end this Nixonian power grab.</p> Even the MSM talking heads agree on the math, the consensus is that it
is about the “psychology” in the Clinton camp… it has been since winter
and the logic has not changed… no one can talk to the power couple
about it yet, it is up to them to end this Nixonian power grab.

]]> By: Crosstimbers http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455651 Crosstimbers Wed, 21 May 2008 14:49:32 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455651 <p>You’re right. In Edwards’ behalf, we probably would have never seen him representing North Carolina in the Senate, if he had run on his more recent platform.</p> You’re right. In Edwards’ behalf, we probably would have never seen him representing North Carolina in the Senate, if he had run on his more recent platform.

]]> By: barbara http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455650 barbara Wed, 21 May 2008 14:46:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/21/clinton-and-obama-reach-out/#comment-1455650 <p>I hear ya!</p> I hear ya!

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