yo

I am turning off the MSNBC drivel, as these gasbags cannot possible say anything I care about.

Please keep me informed!

Zed, she said.

Of what?

It doesn’t seem to me that Obama — who also moves closer to clinching with those Oregon delegates — has a problem with white American working-class voters generically. Looking at the results, it seems he mostly has a problem with white voters in Appalachia. Elsewhere, whites seem perfectly comfortable voting for him.
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yup and they are headed for the junk heep of history (corporate media)

not me….they have no redeeming qualities

Apparently the only hardworking white voters live in a couple of states…the rest are bums I guess.

hahahahhaahahaa

Clinton discussing her good friend Ted Kennedy. Very nice, but I keep thinking that he endorsed Obama.

yea like this poor woman

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING…..index.html

You think the announcers are bad,turn Hillary on.

Hell, I could call this one. Even without my crystal ball that somebody took and painted black and drilled holes in.

See if she mentions Rove’s pig ass.

Hillary more determined than ever to seeing that every vote is counted, but they must all work to see that A DEMOCRAT IS ELECTED IN NOVEMBER!

Beggin for money. . .god.

Well, I’m white but I dunno about that workin’ stuff.

She’ll say anything to anyone who will listen.

“There are 12 parking lots across Santa Barbara that have been set up to accommodate the growing middle-class homelessness. These lots are believed to be part of the first program of its kind in the United States, according to organizers.”

Thanks Pukes.

Maynard G Crebbs

Huh. Obama’s been up 14-16% over Clinton the last few days in the daily Gallup national poll. They were tied a week and a half ago. Clinton supporters…it’s done now, ‘kay?

McKeating just had his biggest fundraising month, and BigMedia continues to lap up his bar-b-que. Whaddaya say we all rally around keeping another death-loving madman outta the White House now? Sound good?

Oh, she doesn’t like the “media” either.

Well, I think I’m a little more on the ball, but…

Sen. Clinton is on stage now in Kentucky making some very nice, moving comments about Sen. Kennedy. I must say the news about Sen. Kennedy really hit me like a sock in the gut.

–Josh Marshall

Krebs

i do animal rescue,..how many people dont EVEN take their pets…sob

I was thinking of him saying “WORK?”

Obama raised $31 million in April. More stats:

New donors in April: 200,000

94% of contributions were under $200

93% of contributions were $100 or less

77% of contributions were $50 or less

52% of contributions were $25 or less

Number of donors to the Obama campaign overall at the end of April: 1.475 million

Number of contributions given: 2,929,000 million

Average donation: $91

Amount raised in April: $31.3 million (plus an additional $600,000 for the general election)

Cash on Hand: $37.3 million (plus an additional $9.2 million for the general election)

http://hotlineblog.nationaljou…..il_fo.html
Not too shabby.

and the bluedog dems too,who turn up their noses

“I’m told more people have voted for me than any other nominee”

Wow, she’s angling for Veep and will be almost as happy as Buchanan if she gets it …

I’m more interested in the voting turnout. That’s where Hillary really has to hope to make a point. Is it really all that high in Kentucky? I suspect that Obama will counter that in Oregon despite the lower percentage in differential simply because of early voting and the fact that these results in Kentucky will compel Obama voters to get everyone they can down to the polls.

Hillary’s like the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland in the “Caucus Race”…where you “have to run as fast as you can to stay in the same place”.

“I’m told more people have voted for me than any other nominee”

By whom, McCaulliffe?

That’s almost as much money as Exxon makes in an hour … /s

i love him and his whole famdamily

Rove …

Allergic to it, myself.

Stephanpoosalot

Oh, “pickin” presidents. If that ain’t country I’ll kiss your ass.

Forward, backward, inward, outward
Come and join the chase
Nothing could be drier
Than a jolly caucus race

Backward, forward, outward, inward
Bottom to the top
Never a beginning,
There can never be a stop

To skipping, hopping, tripping fancy free and gay
Started it tomorrow
But will finish yesterday

‘Round and ’round and ’round we go
Until forevermore
For once we were behind
But now we find we are be-

Foreward, backward, inward, outward
Come and joing hte chase
Nothing could be drier
Than a jolly caucus race!

When is someone going to tell her she lost. It’s over.

or Stephanpoops..a lot

Hillary will keep fighting until the primary is over, whomever she may be?! It’s often said that However Kentucky goes, so goes the Nation?????

I can hear HRC’s voice coming over the radio in the next cubicle (OK, not really a cubicle). I can’t make out the words, only the wohn-wah-wohn-wah tone that reminds me of Charlie Brown’s mother.

… no one has won the Presidency without winning Ohio Pennsylvania Kentucky …

There was a Canadian golden retriever on a show last night called “sir scrathewan”

And that her speech is long enough already.

So – what is it with the Appalachians?

Obama is most certainly getting his ass handed to him in Kentucky.

Didja miss the “Bluegrass” comment ?

scratchewan

Sorta like pickin’ yer nose, or butt, ain’t it?

nope

I’m told more people have voted for me than any other nominee”

Well…if one counts in Michigan (where Obama wasn’t on the ballot, and Florida…and discounts those caucuses which actually represent larger numbers of Democrats…oh, and Oregon…later this evening (and actually mst of those folks HAVE already voted…they just aren’t counted yet).

… no one has won the Presidency without winning Ohio Pennsylvania West Virginia Kentucky …

you forgot one

Stepontopofthis

Can you say bigoted.

I knew you could.

Our local food for animals charity is on my weekly grocery list. They want big bags of dry food.

Konichiwah, Wobbs

You’re kidding, right ?

Caucus Race.

LMAO

Ever heard the state song. . .the original?

My Old Kentucky Home” (originally titled “Poor Uncle Tom, Good Night!”, and sometimes also titled “My Old Kentucky Home, Good-Night!”)[1] is the state song of Kentucky. It was published by Stephen Foster in 1853 and was adopted by the Kentucky General Assembly as the official state song on March 19, 1928.

The song describes a scene of life on a slave plantation. The abolitionist Frederick Douglass saw the song as sympathetic to slaves. [1] In 1986, the Kentucky General Assembly adopted a version unlikely to cause offence in which the original word “darkies” was changed to “people.”

Oh, jeez, she’s talkin about the kid who sold his bike and video games to support her.

Not a lot to brag about there, lady.

She’s bringing up that kid who sold his bike to raise $$$ for her … did she not see TDS ?

well he is sort of vertically challenged, n’est-ce pas?

bom dia

just a drive by. have to go pick up mr wobbs

No, I’m not. I don’t understand why they seem to be more racist there than some other states.

Oops, hit the filter. Read about the state song

My Old Kentucky Home

That’s a repeat. Gotta get a new story.

Thanx … I try hard not to remember any of it … *g*

I just heard a concession “sentence”….I will work hard to elect a Democratic President…united we stand…

It’s the math

We will unite our party and we will unite our country. She knows reality.

Ever been there?

Good idea. I’m actually not watching any cable/network news today. Cleansing day

You said that before I could, thanks !

She’s forever asking why Obama can’t close the deal, but rarely is she asked why she can’t even get close! She started this race as the supposed shoe-in candidate, yet she’s way behind in every measure that counts, starting with money, then with number of states, then with pledged delegates and superdelegates, and the only way she wins the popular vote is if she counts MI and FL and disenfranchises all the caucus states. Go figure!

And, important gimmick, you assume that zero of the “uncommitted” voters in MI voted “for” Obama. That’s why she’s using that language–voted “for” me.

And really – what is she going to do if Obama stiffs her?
Endorse McCain? No way.

Anyone know when Obama is scheduled to speak?

Woo Hoo … ‘go with the flow’ takes on an entirely new meaning ..

She has used that example before. She ought to send the kid his money back. Cheesy.

No, but I think he’s in Iowa.

they tried

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..or-my.html

Nope.

Raven,
Are you pissed off?
I’ve been truly trying to get behind whomever the Democratic Party chooses as the nominee.
But, dude, your rants are making me uncomfortable.
We all have our perspectives, but, this line of comments doesn’t seem to be helpful.
You kind of sound like the guy who’s girlfriend just dumped him.
That’s how I’m hearing it.

Don’t guarantee this will work- fwiw

From http://www.kgw.com/

Tonight on KGW.com: Results at 8 pm | Live streaming | Live blogging

lol

Got that right.

My attitude about Hillary has never changed one bit.

yah,i do the 50 lb bags…thank god they pick up

Hillary…do not listen to Karl Rove…he wants you to l.o.s.e…..hellloooo

Well, I’ve been chewing on this while walking the spaniels. Carryover from earlier thread comment about NYC women political powerbrokers who are pissed at the media and pissed at, well, just about anybody who doesn’t see it their way about Hillary… directed at lhp’s observation of the group, not lhp!

I see pragmatics at work, not disdain from Obama. Matter-of-factness isn’t dismissiveness. Framing means a lot, but sometimes it seems to me that people spend way too much time framing things to suit their own bias. We should all know better. [howzat for framing…]

Having said that — Hi-larious to this seasoned working white woman from a boutique, unimportant red state who voted for Obama in a caucus [the horror!] that no matter how much Hillary and her cronies fuzzy the math, she still comes up short.

I have no sympathy or brief for the situation Clinton finds herself in–too much of her own making. And the outrage at the media and Obama is too conveniently disingenuous and scapegoating. As evidenced by lhp’s predicate that they were all seasoned political/power women who understand political winning and losing.

Still seein’ way too much of “it’s my due” at play from the Clintonistas.

It would have been way better if she had taken his money and donated it to NOLA as a way to remind him of our guiding principle … uplifting the destitute …

And, for your information, If that ain’t counrty, is a song by Davis Allen Coe.

HA! Good stuff.

Not watching Hillary’s speech, but judging by the commentary, why do I keep having images of Sally Field at the Oscars in 1985…”You like me. You really like me!”

If you ever spend any time area you’ll know why. They’re not real fond of those who don’t look, act, think, or talk like them. Particularly those of a different skin colour.

You got spaniels, cockers, springers, water?

That was beyond funny … quoting Rove to defend your campaign.

If she wants to stay in, she certainly does not need Rove’s endorsement …

What does that mean?
You’re not open to winning in November?
I, for one, am trying to keep an open mind.
I know, I’m an Idealist.
It’s not easy for me to do so, but, I still try.

It means I don’t care what other people do but my moral compass would not allow me to vote for her. Period.

parti-color cocker spaniels, mostly black and tan

Remember what Rove said…Hillary is a fatally-flawed candidate…yeah, if she’s been listening to him and especially because she listened to that idjiot Penn. She has made bad choices. Is she just naive or what?

fortunately it is unlikely to come to that.

Doesn’t fit my image at all…Fields was in a moment of success & joy.

Awww, my bride had a parti before I came along. Raven (was) and Lil Bit is black.

Does it seem moral to vote for McC by default?

I know, it’s such bullshit.

desperate…and imo…not all that smart

Not naive. Just infinitely capable of rearranging the truth to suit her personal requirements.

Ever hear of not voting?

Yes, and that’s what Kentucky is for right now…a microcosm.

Ba dum pum …

That’s the default part, I think

i love these guys

http://www.killaraspaniels.com…..ls%202.jpg

Well, then, I guess You Told Us, eh?
You are not alone in your anger or your disappointment.
It’s hard for a lot of people I know and love.

Indeed. Sorry.

Hey Raven- OT but I just off checking GA politics. Sunny, getting frustrated by slowness of Martin campaign. Raven, have you followed the Dem contenders for Senate seat at all? Crikey, I stumbled on to this- Police report on Vernon Jones- in case any one wants some sordid reading to take their mind off Hill/ Obama for a few! OMG! (gotta open each pic in a new window/ link) Vernon Jones is one of the Ds challenging Saxby.

http://georgiaunfiltered.blogs…..-rape.html

I didn’t tell anyone anything except what I think.

oh, wow! a symphony of spaniels

Yeah, it’s one of two things.

1. If she’s calling the shots, she’s making bad decisions.
2. If she’s allowing others to call the shots, she’s making bad decisions.

Channeling Rove is just plain unfathomable.

http://mckinney2008.com/PRESIDENT/

Any news on the Kentucky Senate primary?

English!

field spaniels ..i like these guys too..heck i love them allllllllllll

http://www.corsini.co.uk/finea…..allard.jpg

((( Raven )))

a more apt Sally Fields image might be from the movie “Not Without My Daughter”, in which she has to flee post-revoutionary Iran.

Working title in this case: “Not Without My Nomination”

Isn’t that what we are all doing?

i want a piece of toast

Hear Hear

These dopes will keep electing saxby

do i dare venture back to msnbc?

Butter, Marmalade or White Pepper Spread ? *g*

((((( sadlyyes )))))

what else can i eat?…cashews?

here we go

FRANKFORT — After two unsuccessful attempts to get his party’s nomination to be governor of Kentucky, Louisville businessman Bruce Lunsford turned back six challengers Tuesday to get the Democratic Party’s nod to run against Republican incumbent Mitch McConnell for U.S. Senate in November.

The race is expected to be expensive. Lunsford said he expects McConnell will spend at least $15 million in his efforts to win his fifth term and that Lunsford will be “well-funded” in the contest.

McConnell, who is only the second Kentuckian to lead his party in the U.S. Senate, faced only token opposition in Tuesday’s GOP primary election in Whitley County truck driver Daniel Essek.

In a statement, McConnell said, “I am honored to once again be able to place myself before the voters of Kentucky and look forward to running against the Lunsford-Obama plan for America.”

McConnell campaign representative Justin Brasell said McConnell’s campaign “will be the most prepared and aggressive campaign Kentuckians have ever experienced. We are already organized in each of Kentucky’s 120 counties, and we look forward to running all the way to victory in November.”

Lunsford’s chief rival in Tuesday’s Democratic contest was Louisville businessman Greg Fischer, who ran TV ads questioning Lunsford’s business practices and his endorsement of Republican Ernie Fletcher over Democrat Ben Chandler in the 2003 governor’s race. Lunsford dropped out of that race only days before the Democratic primary election. He also was unsuccessful in his bid last year for governor.

Brilliant.

PatBuch is … um … blowing his Horn for Hillary … wonder why ? *g*

i prolly should go to bed,and stop eating…things are going teh well

luv the clumbers, too

((( Teddy Bear )))

Are ya hitched yet ?

Here’s a half piece, but with low sugar apricot jam on it.
(you’ll like it.)

what a cheap tool

marmalade on toast. That’s it. Hillary is…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5NEt29uRHI

((((( Loo Hoo )))))

Blog hugging is kinds tiring … *g*

But what we really need is Norma Rae….

thanks ….i love bread,im a peasent

Still waiting for forms, implementation, and a decision on a date.

Buchanan is sooooo shrill.

I prefer eating low sugar apricot jam from the jar. With a spoon.

Or on ice cream.

Shucks, I was holding out hope that you’d get married in Toronto … glad to see that California Courts have crawled out of the Dark Ages, though …

{{{{{{{{{{{{{bread}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

http://oregonscottishsociety.c…..edited.jpg

I knew it. She’s implying it again: “Kentucky is the state all presidents win!” or something like that.

D.E.L.U.S.I.O.N.A.L.

Yea, that’s what

You kind of sound like the guy who’s girlfriend just dumped him.

was.

okiay must hold out for BHO

I’m afraid you might be right. I’m in 2 week workshop on Race at xxx Univ. Woman I usually sit next to into Dem politics, worked for a polling firm after grad sch. No way Saxby will be defeated, she said. fwiw. sigh.

It’s been a coupla years now since I’ve been to TO. I need to find a business excuse to go again. Fantastic city!

thats what i think,and anbody ahem that still is pushing her

Oh Lord … don’t start another food thread … *g* … last time w went through 3 threads talking about food …
… the Trolls must have been so confused … *g*

Me too. I’ve pretty much chalked it up as that. ;-)

Oops.

Great. Now they’re carefully explaining how stupid and bigoted the folks in Kentucky are.

“New York run by the Swiss” is how Peter Ustinov described Toronto, although I prefer “A City in a Garden”

Wow. Whites came out for Hillary tonight!

Well guess what, whites come out in every election and vote for the white candidate! In fact! We’ve always had white candidates this far into a primary until this year!

Isn’t that neat, Nora O’Dummy?

We took care of that upthread. If it quacks like a duck.

I’ve always voted for a white candidate until this year. I’m proud to have cast my caucus vote for Barack too. ;-)

LOL … the regulars loved it … the Trolls can go suck Ottash (say it quickly) *g*

the key word here is UNEDUCATED. i think that equals “disinterested in the facts, or in FINDING the facts”. hell, they (the facts)are not even buried in this case.

LOL … ((((( Kay )))))

The only dog I’ve ever loved was our rescued Aussie, Sonny, who was the closest creature I’ve ever found who was actually a human being trapped in a fur suit. Saved us thousands in therapy.

Here’s a link (thanks, Leen) where you can send your thoughts to Ted Kennedy.

However much I disagree with the tone of Hillary’s campaign, I despise Punkinhead’s smugness towards her …

yes

yeah Rustass, I DONT WANT a fighter in the White House. I want a PEACE MAKER! thank you!!!!!
asshat!

the Trolls must have been so confused

That’s part of why it was so much fun. *g*

Eli is upstairs!

gawwwwwwwwwwww were looking at 25,000,000.00 watd dollars

And almost all Blacks voted for a White Candidate in past elections, too. So much for the “blacks are racist” meme. If they were racist they wouldn’t be one of the most reliable segments of the Democratic Party.

I have to admit. I cracked myself up when I typed, “Nora O’Dummy”. It just has a nice ring to it! LOL ;-)

Exactly! That was my other point, but I hit “submit comment” in a fit of excitement! LOL

Does Nora O’Dummy mention this fact? Nope! They just want Hillary to appear to be more loved than…..that black man *hiss*. ;-)

Perfect, following the “Isn’t that neat …” part …

Punkinhead’s default position is smugness…not just Hillary-directed. He sux.

Noron is very, very, very pregnant..the funny thing is that they have her standing in a static camera angle and dressed in a black dress…if she shifts even 2″, you can see she’s about to pop. Why can’t she just be pregnant and move around normally???

The Red Queen

When Alice inquires why they are running so hard and never getting anywhere…

“Now here! You see it takes all the running you can do to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else you must run at least twice as fast as THAT!”

Lemme see…Hillary needed to win <70% of all remaining Primaries to lead Obama in declared delegates. Now, because she’ likely to get less than that in Kentucky she’ll need to win 73% of those remaining…and after Oregon that’ll likely be 78%. Run faster, Hillary!

Raven,
I have no desire to make this all personal, and I know that my comment made it so.
I really don’t want to do that.
I’m sorry.
I apolize.

Speaking of trolls, we seem to have shed one or two.

It scares the Rethugs. Having to consider that pregnancy involves sex makes their heads explode.

Well, you see….we live in a country run by Evangelicals, so showing a woman pregnant on television is basically illegal because it would make the children of Evangelicals ask, “Daddy, why is her belly big? Did she have sex?”. See? I’m surprised they haven’t duct taped her belly flat, because that’s how the lunatic fringe react to these kinds of things.

ugh.

You should hear how I say it out loud here at my desk. It has lots of lispy sarcasm with a tinge of anger. LOL

Yeah, I noticed that. First time I think I’ve seen her give a speech to a totally white audience. Usually they can find someone “different” to sit behind her and look happy, but tonight they really did all look alike.

LOL … I can imagine … lots of ‘actors’ in my family …

Probably the poorest area in the country is in Appalachia.

I knew it. She’s implying it again: “Kentucky is the state all presidents win!” or something like that.

D.E.L.U.S.I.O.N.A.L.

What bunkum. In 1904 Kentucky voted for Parker over Teddy Roosevelt (Parker was the only non-progressive candidate that election). In 1908 they voted for Wm. Jennings “Cross of Gold” Bryan over Taft. In 1920 the voted for Cox over Harding.

Fortunately they voted for Frankilin Roosevelt…as did almost everyone else.

In 1952 they opted to vote for Adlai Stevenson over Ike., and in 1960 they voted for Nixon over Kennedy. They continued to support Nixon again in 1968 and 1972, though.

And since then they’ve been pretty correct in the Presidentials…consistently voting for the winners in the Presidential elections…which means that over two thirds of the time whoever was supported by the Democrats in Kentucky lost in the General election.

Oh, and one more point…by the time Kentucky rolled around most Democratic challengers had dropped out…leaving the race to the eventual nominee to win almost by acclamation. So Kentucky has also consistently “chosen” the winner of the Democratic primaries… ;-)

Because they want her ankles to swell until they explode?

Bingo (on comment #191 & #192)! Hillary is just using Double Speak to make her negatives into a fake positive! She’s so readable. Most neocons are. They think we can’t figure them out, but really, we’ve got our hands on their foreheads as they’re swinging at us. Pathetic. ;-)

Okay, going to bed. Nite all! ;-)

Nice angle on your comments tonight, thanks … gave me new ways of looking at this, being in the Great White North and all …

You really are very good with statistics, aren’t you?

Thank you. Sometimes the obvious eludes me.