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		<title>By: Eric de Place</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/19/united-states-of-climate-change/#comment-1453006</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric de Place</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 03:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry for my absence from the thread. I was burning up some carbon on the way to Salt Lake City to pester the good folks with the Western Climate Initiative. Couple of answers below to Scarecrow…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“As I understand this, there still aren’t any mandates and/or enforcement mechanisms attached to the policy goals — is that true?”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The enforceability varies a bit from state to state. Some states — California, Washington, and British Columbia for example — either have sufficient exec-branch authority or pretty firm legislative commitment. And almost all of the northeastern states are fairly committed to RGGI. But, yeah, some states, particularly in the Rocky Mtn West, may have difficulty getting legislative approval for the policies. We’ll find out soon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“Also, how far behind are those states that are the most dependent on coal-based economies, electricity generation, etc.? Where do we need to see the most change in views about climate change policies?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s hard to make generalizations, though there’s a coincidental correlation between some PNW states with “clean” hydro and liberal politics. The good news about coal — if that’s not an oxymoron — is that the electricity sector is ripe with efficiences that are actually cheaper than free. They pay for themselves in just a couple of years, and there are many, many good substitutes for coal-powered electricity. The big obstacle, of course, is our good friends in the coal industry.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for my absence from the thread. I was burning up some carbon on the way to Salt Lake City to pester the good folks with the Western Climate Initiative. Couple of answers below to Scarecrow…</p>
<blockquote><p>“As I understand this, there still aren’t any mandates and/or enforcement mechanisms attached to the policy goals — is that true?”</p>
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<p>The enforceability varies a bit from state to state. Some states — California, Washington, and British Columbia for example — either have sufficient exec-branch authority or pretty firm legislative commitment. And almost all of the northeastern states are fairly committed to RGGI. But, yeah, some states, particularly in the Rocky Mtn West, may have difficulty getting legislative approval for the policies. We’ll find out soon.</p>
<blockquote><p>“Also, how far behind are those states that are the most dependent on coal-based economies, electricity generation, etc.? Where do we need to see the most change in views about climate change policies?</p>
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<p>It’s hard to make generalizations, though there’s a coincidental correlation between some PNW states with “clean” hydro and liberal politics. The good news about coal — if that’s not an oxymoron — is that the electricity sector is ripe with efficiences that are actually cheaper than free. They pay for themselves in just a couple of years, and there are many, many good substitutes for coal-powered electricity. The big obstacle, of course, is our good friends in the coal industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Starbuck</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/19/united-states-of-climate-change/#comment-1452843</link>
		<dc:creator>Starbuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 01:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Eric (and others here) are you familiar with the work of Professor Bob Carter of James Cook University in Australia, who has  delivered a lecture on the subject? His findings indicate some serious questions on the subject of human intervention in climate change.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A link to the video lecture; blow by all the hype about it and watch the video.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I  would appreciate any links to any counter arguments, especailly those who answer Prof Carter directly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric (and others here) are you familiar with the work of Professor Bob Carter of James Cook University in Australia, who has  delivered a lecture on the subject? His findings indicate some serious questions on the subject of human intervention in climate change.</p>
<p>A link to the video lecture; blow by all the hype about it and watch the video.</p>
<p>I  would appreciate any links to any counter arguments, especailly those who answer Prof Carter directly.</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Novista</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/19/united-states-of-climate-change/#comment-1452829</link>
		<dc:creator>Novista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the maps.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Interesting there is still value in ’states rights’.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the maps.</p>
<p>Interesting there is still value in ’states rights’.</p>
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		<title>By: martha</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/19/united-states-of-climate-change/#comment-1452801</link>
		<dc:creator>martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You rang? (Wisconsin here…)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are doing a few things right. First, we have a statewide energy efficiency and renewable energy program (over 7 years old now) as opposed to a “utility by utility” mish-mash. Some states don’t even have that. This program is now overseen by the Public Service Commission, which will now treat energy efficiency as a “resource”, in the same way it views generating plants.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You rang? (Wisconsin here…)</p>
<p>We are doing a few things right. First, we have a statewide energy efficiency and renewable energy program (over 7 years old now) as opposed to a “utility by utility” mish-mash. Some states don’t even have that. This program is now overseen by the Public Service Commission, which will now treat energy efficiency as a “resource”, in the same way it views generating plants.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/19/united-states-of-climate-change/#comment-1452797</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hope the ones around Rush have ample supplies of Narcan…..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope the ones around Rush have ample supplies of Narcan…..</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/19/united-states-of-climate-change/#comment-1452792</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually we took all the snorkels away and told the gators.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually we took all the snorkels away and told the gators.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/19/united-states-of-climate-change/#comment-1452791</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not the object of the exercise.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not the object of the exercise.</p>
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		<title>By: Eureka Springs</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/19/united-states-of-climate-change/#comment-1452785</link>
		<dc:creator>Eureka Springs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/19/grittv-what-happened-to-the-gotcha-press/#respond&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New post upstairs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/19/grittv-what-happened-to-the-gotcha-press/#respond" rel="nofollow">New post upstairs</a></p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/19/united-states-of-climate-change/#comment-1452783</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dugg!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dugg!</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/19/united-states-of-climate-change/#comment-1452782</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 23:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Eric, for some odd reason I’m tickled the other map links California and France….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wonder how long before the Wingers start to say “Franco-San Francisco values”?  Of course, the South Florida wingers may wish to learn to say ith through snorkels….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, for some odd reason I’m tickled the other map links California and France….</p>
<p>Wonder how long before the Wingers start to say “Franco-San Francisco values”?  Of course, the South Florida wingers may wish to learn to say ith through snorkels….</p>
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