Comments on: Curious George And The Men In The Pointy White Hats http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:13:34 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: libbyliberal http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1452048 libbyliberal Mon, 19 May 2008 06:49:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1452048 <p>Thank you so much for sharing that BobbyG. I came back to the site to spend a little more time on this discussion, and to read your blog. It was so worth it, and profoundly moved me. So elegantly written, and the story itself is poignant and inspiring. Lucky girls to have you. Lucky father, too, to have them. :)</p> Thank you so much for sharing that BobbyG. I came back to the site to spend a little more time on this discussion, and to read your blog. It was so worth it, and profoundly moved me. So elegantly written, and the story itself is poignant and inspiring. Lucky girls to have you. Lucky father, too, to have them. :)

]]> By: libbyliberal http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1452039 libbyliberal Mon, 19 May 2008 06:45:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1452039 <p>How generous of you to fill me in on that and sharing at this late point!</p> <p>The reason I posted Sammy Davis’s name is that I wanted his courage to be remembered and honored, too (if it were he). </p> <p>And Nat King Cole!! (And Frank S. standing by him … though the mob guys … mixed feelings on them, but God Bless them if they saved Nat’s life.)</p> <p>We usually have no idea the enormity of what such heroes faced. But hearing about them makes me want to be braver. Courage is contagious. </p> <p>It is so important to talk the talk to stay conscious and aware of the truth, but to walk the proverbial walk…. for the sake of your sense of integrity … to not let society get away with stifling your best potential … that is leadership … that is freedom …that is truly living as your highest self!</p> How generous of you to fill me in on that and sharing at this late point!

The reason I posted Sammy Davis’s name is that I wanted his courage to be remembered and honored, too (if it were he).

And Nat King Cole!! (And Frank S. standing by him … though the mob guys … mixed feelings on them, but God Bless them if they saved Nat’s life.)

We usually have no idea the enormity of what such heroes faced. But hearing about them makes me want to be braver. Courage is contagious.

It is so important to talk the talk to stay conscious and aware of the truth, but to walk the proverbial walk…. for the sake of your sense of integrity … to not let society get away with stifling your best potential … that is leadership … that is freedom …that is truly living as your highest self!

]]> By: BooRadley http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451861 BooRadley Mon, 19 May 2008 04:47:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451861 <p>I didn’t hear that one, don’t know if it was Davis or Cole. </p> <p>I did hear that the Klan almost beat Cole to death when he was performing on stage in the south, Florida I think. Frank called his mob buddies and they sent a couple of enforcer types down to transport Cole back up north in safety. I guess the fear was that the Klan was going to come back and finish the job.</p> I didn’t hear that one, don’t know if it was Davis or Cole.

I did hear that the Klan almost beat Cole to death when he was performing on stage in the south, Florida I think. Frank called his mob buddies and they sent a couple of enforcer types down to transport Cole back up north in safety. I guess the fear was that the Klan was going to come back and finish the job.

]]> By: BooRadley http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451856 BooRadley Mon, 19 May 2008 04:42:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451856 <p>Don’t forget to thank the Pope, and the Roman Catholic Church. Most of the owners of Africans in New Orleans, through the Carriabean, and south down to Brazil were Roman Catholics. They were huge benefactors to the papacy, because of all the wealth they accrued from NOT paying for labor. Popes did not want to lose that revenue stream, so the Vatican was officially neutral during the US Civil War. Being thoroughly anti-moderninst, the Vatican was actually pro-Confederacy, but they didn’t want to admit it. Sometime after 1865, the popes gradually, grudgingly came out against owning Africans.</p> Don’t forget to thank the Pope, and the Roman Catholic Church. Most of the owners of Africans in New Orleans, through the Carriabean, and south down to Brazil were Roman Catholics. They were huge benefactors to the papacy, because of all the wealth they accrued from NOT paying for labor. Popes did not want to lose that revenue stream, so the Vatican was officially neutral during the US Civil War. Being thoroughly anti-moderninst, the Vatican was actually pro-Confederacy, but they didn’t want to admit it. Sometime after 1865, the popes gradually, grudgingly came out against owning Africans.

]]> By: BooRadley http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451850 BooRadley Mon, 19 May 2008 04:36:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451850 <p>Well said. I call it “refined white suprmacy.”</p> Well said. I call it “refined white suprmacy.”

]]> By: kathyinstlouis1 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451737 kathyinstlouis1 Mon, 19 May 2008 03:30:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451737 <p>I have been listening to black music since I was a girl of 12….a lot of years ago. My father hated it, really hated it. He was not exactly the soul of racial understanding. I love R&B, jazz, and especially soul.</p> <p>I don’t like rap for all the reasons you named…just doesn’t seem very creative to me and very anti-women. Mostly though, I have a hard time defining as music anything that doesn’t have a melody. Most rap has none.</p> <p>However, the American music world would be a pretty poor place without the contributions of black musicians, writers and vocal performers. So here’s to B.B. King and Ray Charles.</p> I have been listening to black music since I was a girl of 12….a lot of years ago. My father hated it, really hated it. He was not exactly the soul of racial understanding. I love R&B, jazz, and especially soul.

I don’t like rap for all the reasons you named…just doesn’t seem very creative to me and very anti-women. Mostly though, I have a hard time defining as music anything that doesn’t have a melody. Most rap has none.

However, the American music world would be a pretty poor place without the contributions of black musicians, writers and vocal performers. So here’s to B.B. King and Ray Charles.

]]> By: xargaw http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451716 xargaw Mon, 19 May 2008 03:19:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451716 <p>I have never lived in the South, but I have friends from the South. I know there are good people, intelligent people and graceful people in the South. It must be difficult for them to bask in the reflected light of so many racist and ignorant morons. Racism is born out of ignorance. It is sad that grown people have failed to evolve beyond racism. It is the racist that is inferior, not the object of his racism.</p> I have never lived in the South, but I have friends from the South. I know there are good people, intelligent people and graceful people in the South. It must be difficult for them to bask in the reflected light of so many racist and ignorant morons. Racism is born out of ignorance. It is sad that grown people have failed to evolve beyond racism. It is the racist that is inferior, not the object of his racism.

]]> By: wobblybits http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451326 wobblybits Sun, 18 May 2008 22:13:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451326 <p>BTW I have no ties to slavery or slave owners in this country but plenty to the slavery in Brasil both indigenous and african thanks to sugar, coffee, minerals and rubber</p> BTW I have no ties to slavery or slave owners in this country but plenty to the slavery in Brasil both indigenous and african thanks to sugar, coffee, minerals and rubber

]]> By: Slothrop http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451324 Slothrop Sun, 18 May 2008 22:12:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451324 <p>The Kathleen Parker column is far more insidious than the obviously racist “Curious George” t-shirt, ugly as it is. Parker’s work, placed in the traditional, respected media, is pure evil: some blood is better than other blood.</p> The Kathleen Parker column is far more insidious than the obviously racist “Curious George” t-shirt, ugly as it is. Parker’s work, placed in the traditional, respected media, is pure evil: some blood is better than other blood.

]]> By: wobblybits http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451287 wobblybits Sun, 18 May 2008 21:43:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/18/curious-george-and-the-men-in-the-pointy-white-hats/#comment-1451287 <p>actually there was evidence that it was waning prior to the intro of technology (cotton gin)</p> <p>Have you checked Jstor to see if anyone has written any articles? it may lead you to somre research and/or books.</p> actually there was evidence that it was waning prior to the intro of technology (cotton gin)

Have you checked Jstor to see if anyone has written any articles? it may lead you to somre research and/or books.

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