St. McCain and the Republicans have been telling us for years that any public discussion whatsoever of a specific time frame or date that our troops will come home from Iraq means al-Qaeda wins. Here’s McCain berating Willard for daring to suggest that such a plan be kept privately, by the President.
Well, that talking point is toast. From the liberal Wall Street Journal:
After months of ridiculing opponents who want to set a timetable for withdrawal in Iraq, today John McCainis setting his own timetable. In remarks prepared for delivery, he says he envisions that “most” of the troops now serving will be home by January 2013, when his first term would end.
What a date certain-loving surrender monkey. Doesn’t St. McCain believe that troop levels in Iraq should be determined by American commanders and not by "artificial timetables set by politicians in Washington?"
But what’s revealing about this gargantuan flip-flop was St. McCain’s pissy, hysterical response when reporters called him out on it.
"It’s not a timetable; it’s victory. It’s victory, which I have always predicted. I didn’t know when we were going to win World War II; I just knew we were going to win," McCain said.
So sad.
Just shows you just how desperate St. McCain is to contain the damage of his "100 Years In Iraq" moment, which will be played over and over until November.
Not gonna work.
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Why does St John the feeble hate amerikuh?
jus cogens!
GOP guys are like really really bad pick up artists.
OK that line didn’t work
“We need a timetable”
Nothing?
“You work out?”
“From around here?”
Calling Mystery Method Man who hone my PU artist skillz.
Like I just said last thread…
McCain has flip-flopped on everything! He flip-flopped on torture, negotiating with Hamas, tax cuts. What happened to this guy? I never liked him, but he used to at least appear to have some integrity.
heh. I just googled that, finally. good thought. I’ve been wondering who in the world is going to stand up to GWB.
When you start hearing someone braying “Victory!” you’d better run, because it means some old man is getting ready to send your kids to get killed in a worthless struggle.
poster boy for PTSD.
McCain offers two enticing menu options depending on your preference. Its 100 years or five years, you pick ‘em. If you like the sound of five, go with McCain. If you like 100, McCain is your man. /s
Did McCain really say: “I didn’t know when we were going to win World War II. I just knew we were going to win.” ?
He seems like he’s old enough to be a WWII contemporary, but I never thought he’d actually vocalize such a thing?
Oy…
We were just saying on the previous thread that the “2013″ speech was extremely strange and should be played up more. I don’t think he has contained the damage at all when his most recent take on Iraq is even loopier than his “100 years” remark.
More on nlg!
Most of us don’t broadcast it to the world with schizophrenic-like ramblings. We try our best to act like rational human beings.
He’s gonna be 72, so it seems a stretch for him to say “knew” we were going to win WWII. He was what, 4, when we got in?
yep. last sunday I finally confronted my own personal KD (koolaid drinker) on his Iraq talking points.
Iran
proof?
Iraq govt
codependent thinking. don’t hold your breath waiting for change.
remember vietnam? (said in a very condescending way) honor.
bombing Sadr City
he shrugs. that’s where the militants are.
so killing lots of civilians is ok. why don’t we just get the hell out of there?
It’s the oil, baby!
so much for honor, ok?
all this by a gop chickenhawk. I’m still recovering from indigestion, not kidding.
Digg this
Looks like I need to start buying popcorn in bulk.
“I didn’t know when we were going to win World War II; I just knew we were going to win,” McCain said.” McCain was born in 1936, which made him 5 years old when the US entered WWII and 9 years old in 1945. Hello? “I just knew we were going to win.” Between the ages of 5 and 9, you came up with this iron-clad foreign policy winner, John? Or…(cue scary music)is this yet another John McCain (not versions 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0) – is one of your other personalities that of…your father..or even…your grandfather, who was at the signing of the surrender of the Japanese(and died of a heart attack soon thereafter)? Hmm…now there’s a thought – John is channeling not only the various versions of himself..but also the spirit of his grandfather? Damn..
McCain said he was finished looking for POW/MIA’s. And he was not going to do anything further or listen anymore about it. Here’s Mean McCain stonewalling Dolores Alfond:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/in…..-families/
Twitchy McSame sounds increasingly scrambly every day. In fact, the entire Republican party seems to be in full collapse mode. Great moments of popcorn history. Watch them blame Tom Cole, the dumb Okie. Because as we all know the chant is that conservatism cannot fail, only people fail conservatism.
Dosido, I really am afraid that if you scratch the surface (and not even very hard) people would be willing to let all the bloodshed of our troops and Iraqi civilians continue, and even start a war with Iran, if they thought they were going to have to carpool to work or have rationed gasoline.
oooh! yummy. me like.
thank you!
:(
Yeah, big time.
I forget where I recently saw that video but it was hideous!
more people should watch cspan. sure learn a lot.
I would rather see Bush and the members of his administration tried for treason but I also think standing trial for war crimes and other violations of international law would be better for the national and the world.
A lot of truth there and an extremely sad commentary on our society.
Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran
the other thing that made this conversation so very unacceptable to me is that he continued on to shoot down every alternative to the status quo (like electric cars and hybrids) and then say he’s a moderate.
He’s frigging delusional. It’s like having Sean Hannity in my living room. Then I have to behave because I know he’s a really really mentally ill person. but he gets to vote. and tries to tell me how to vote. He’s a very selfish person.
I’m sick of it.
That’s why I want Obabma to be our next president. We
are going todesperately need a leader with the courage to challenge us to be more than we think we can be, to think of the common good. I love the slogan ‘Yes, we can!” And I love “Change We Can Believe In”. Turn it around and it says, “I Believe We Can Change”. I so want to believe that of all of us.yes, plus I don’t think a trial for treason will ever ever happen. Maybe for the next successor for the Nixon, Reagan, Bush Bush slippery slope continuum. but not for dubya.
Dubya is the Ken Lay of the US Federal Government. Just keep buying that oil, people. Things’re great!
That is scary. I hope you can keep on teaching and that he will eventually see the truth.
McCain born 8/9/36. He was 5yrs old when Pearl Harbor was attacked. Smart kid.
unfortunately, i agree.
Does McC really believe that Americans are going to accept that we will have troops in Iraq for 5 more years – the man is truly nuts.
Yes. Smart. So bright his momma calls him sun. He will find that majik pony, ride it to victory in Iraqistan and toss a hog-tied bin laden across its haunches and lead the parade returning to America.
His magical mystery tour speech about 2013 didn’t say much about the economy did it?
A mime would have more constructive things to say on the economy than McCain.
That’s one of the funniest things about it. Once you’ve heard 100, the thinking must be, 5 must sound great!
Actually I think it did. Everything turns out fine.
Blue Texan
Last thread you asked why does Obama sound so shrill?
Way back when, months and months ago, before people jumped on the obamatrain, I had mentioned that Hillary sounded shrill. And I took some heat for that. One commenter wrote that when she saw Shrill, she saw Shrew.
I tried to explain, alas, as always, to no avail.
Funny you should use that word.
Michelle seems to wear the pants there, as it were.
Whoo Hoo!!!
Er, that was a joke, Demi.
I don’t think Obama is shrill or angry.
Yesy, and I will be better looking and taller and hammer-dunking at hoops at age 67. Can hardly wait.
shorter McCain: fuk’n the troops just give me the unitary executive powers.
I thought it was going to be six weeks, Maybe six months…
Oooops. Sorry.
I don’t always get the subtext.
Am swinging in and out here whilst doing other things.
Michelle is a pretty strong women, though, doncha think?
I actually prefer the strong, silent type…which I’m not.
I may be slow and stubborn, but, I’m not stupid and I haven’t bought the ticket for that train yet, but I’m in the line to do so.
Well, of course. I’m a Democrat. And, Damned Proud to say that.
I think the McCain economic policy is for people to get a second job, except for wimmins, who need additional training so they can make as much money as men.
Seriously, we have to run against the media, not John McCain. They love him.
Perhaps bitter.
Many, many Friedman units.
aka FU’s
LOL !
Oh, hell. I’m naive, stupid And Bitter.
I really like Michelle. I loved it when she used herself as an example of good public education. That’s another thing I hate about McCain. He will continue tearing down our public schools in favor of private and faith-based education. I don’t want to go any farther down that path.
Has anybody seen MoveOn’s latest project? It looks like a real hoot, and has the added benefit of pushing the meme of a third Bush term. It might even get some coverage.
No, no!!!
Here’s some more good news for the republicans from Think Progress:
GOP guys are like really really bad pick up artists.
“shall we fight the terr’ists at your place or at mine?”
So, i guess, we have approx 1.33 FUs left of Bush.
Hey Loo.
With regard to
Oh, hell. I’m naive, stupid And Bitter..
perhaps I should break out the guitar and start composing?
Ha!
We simply must fight them over there so they don’t interrupt our reading of important tome’s like “My Pet Goat.”
Oh, please do!
FunnyDiva
(((((QuakerGirl)))))
Hurricane: A natural disaster that can’t be avoided.
Johnmccain: A national disaster that CAN be avoided.
Two hundred and forty nine days left of Bush. (Thank you Miss off-the-table Pelosi!)
For you…
I guess I’ll get
A big ole hummer
I want to buy
A big ole hummer
Help me buy
No payment down
A big ole hummer.
And, thank you, Georgie,
And, thank you, Saudies,
And, thank you, John.
:)
Gonna be a blues singer/songwriter? Guaranteed to get ya bookings in Tampa and/or St Pete.
Forgot earlier this mornin’ (damn, sigh) (((QuakerGirl)))
Blues or folk?!
Well….I can sing and write and play, but, really, truth be told, I really always wanted to be a stand up comic.
That McCain. What a lovable wacky maverick liberal/conservative who is the green warmonger for peace and prosperity for the rich.
I don’t comment as much as most of you, but I have enjoyed discussions with QuakerGirl in the past. Not to intrude, but is everything ok?
707
That’s a good start.
And has anyone seen Steve AR?
She’s in hospice with end stage leukemia.
Yep.
And, country.
You can hear the fiddle, right?
Add a banjo ya got….bluegrass. Now yer talkin’.
I’ve been wondering too.
You saw the news about da Spook and Newdealfarmgirl, right?
OT – My new Kos post on Markos’ questionable ethics in handling the 2008 AK-AL race.
Oh no. I am so sorry, I had no idea.
Love and peace to QuakerGirl and her friends and family.
I think we need a sidebar with all of these personal bits and perhaps a ‘how to contact’, especially for people like QuakerGirl. We ARE all family here, you know.
Huh?
Turned on msnbc awhile ago & the R heavy duty spin on this appeasement turkey makes my head hurt. I hate to admit that the verbal contortions are kind of fascinating in a sick sort of way.
Quakergirl,
Child of peace.
Quakergirl,
You need release.
Quakergirl,
You stand for Justice,
And, we are proud
You stand amongst us.
*
You have our love, our respect, and our permission.
I forgot to add that she said she’d being lurking when she could, hence all the
((((((QuakerGirl))))))
They’re together.
Engaged, as it seems to be.
Al has a new website, still in construction here:
http://www.althespook.com/
reaching my arms out to find QuakerGirl to hold her close…
Drop by Pull Up A Chair tomorrow morning, we will have some time to put together our love and best wishes for several of our fellow pups.
Just as a reminder, we don’t give out personal contact information. But we can share our concern and love for people here in the threads.
Well, there goes our reputation as an angry, foul-mouthed feminazi blog. Damn.
Get a room, you two!
Some of the comments there tick me off no end. Don’t these boneheads understand the issue at play here?
I know, Egreg – I know we have to protect people’s privacy and safety – but it frustrates me a lot to know that if I knew where she was and she was within my reach, I’d be there…
I quit reading the comments there a long time ago. Waste of time. The posts are excellent, just too much venom and nonsense in the comments for me.
You mean you and I have to get up really early tomorrow morning?
Okay. I will hit the sack early to get up at what???5am here on the west coast?
I may not be as creative at that time.
Maybe I better copy what I wrote a few comments up. :)
I mean what I wrote, tho.
i like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..ature=user
It’s Friday. No GritTV.
I
Want
My
GritTV
how are ya doin today sir?
I just put duct tape, key to all fixit problems, over the alarm clock so I can’t see it’s really the middle of the night.
Whoaaa. Verrrry nice.
that was my fave move on ad
Fair to mostly cloudy. Hard.
Great name recognition ad.
You’re funny.
See ya when I see ya.
big {{{{SD}}}}}
ANGUS HARRY ,and JOLIE,Percy,Minx send treats and {{{{PURRS}}}}
Thanks.
Still sorry.
Hug and pet and love the other ones and cry and breathe.
Okay?
I just adore Abraham Lincoln,reminds me of my very brillant ,quiet dad
bummer;(
Thanks. Doing just that.
Late lunch. Get my act together and back to work. Later.
take good care
Have been very out of touch. But I loved the answers I heard from Obama. At the same time Hannity was calling him too sensitive be/c the Pres. had not mentioned him. Yuk.