Comments on: Hey, Didja Hear The One About The Uppity Black Man? http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:20:35 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448544 cinnamonape Sat, 17 May 2008 03:34:41 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448544 <p>By and large I agree, but States and City’s have long had the right to regulate guns within their boundaries. This has been done since the time of the Original Constitution precisely because it feared organized armed groups in insurrection. Read the sections of the Constitution about the regulation of militias and who does it. It’s not the general public, or a group like the Patriots or the NRA…it’s Congress and the State legislatures. These provisions…including the part in the @nd Amendment about “well-regulated militias” were included precisely because conflicts like the Shay’s and Whiskey Rebellions involved armed men who had to be put down by the militias OF OTHER STATES.</p> <p>Jefferson’s famous comments about these insurrections have always been misconstrued…he viewed the “tyrants” the ones that had illegally taken over the legislature and courts (Shays and others)…occasionally the “patriots” had to spill a little blood to nurture the new union. In any case, Jefferson was in Paris when all this was occurring. George Washington sent up General Lincoln to handle the mess. </p> <p>Militia movement types always get Jefferson’s meaning completely reversed.</p> <p>Last night we discussed <a href="http://www.kshs.org/portraits/beecher_bibles.htm" rel="nofollow">Beecher’s Bibles</a>…certain types of rifles were outlawed from Kansas because they were fueling an incipient civil war.</p> By and large I agree, but States and City’s have long had the right to regulate guns within their boundaries. This has been done since the time of the Original Constitution precisely because it feared organized armed groups in insurrection. Read the sections of the Constitution about the regulation of militias and who does it. It’s not the general public, or a group like the Patriots or the NRA…it’s Congress and the State legislatures. These provisions…including the part in the @nd Amendment about “well-regulated militias” were included precisely because conflicts like the Shay’s and Whiskey Rebellions involved armed men who had to be put down by the militias OF OTHER STATES.

Jefferson’s famous comments about these insurrections have always been misconstrued…he viewed the “tyrants” the ones that had illegally taken over the legislature and courts (Shays and others)…occasionally the “patriots” had to spill a little blood to nurture the new union. In any case, Jefferson was in Paris when all this was occurring. George Washington sent up General Lincoln to handle the mess.

Militia movement types always get Jefferson’s meaning completely reversed.

Last night we discussed Beecher’s Bibles…certain types of rifles were outlawed from Kansas because they were fueling an incipient civil war.

]]> By: bonkers http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448428 bonkers Sat, 17 May 2008 02:51:45 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448428 <p>Yes, we discussed above. Glad to see others think the same thing, and that I’m not getting all tin foily.</p> Yes, we discussed above. Glad to see others think the same thing, and that I’m not getting all tin foily.

]]> By: victoria http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448411 victoria Sat, 17 May 2008 02:41:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448411 <p>Or: all codpiece, no cod!</p> Or: all codpiece, no cod!

]]> By: victoria http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448396 victoria Sat, 17 May 2008 02:33:32 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448396 <p>Haven’t had a chance to read the comments above, so I may be repeating something someone else has said, but that did not seem like an unexpected noise to me. Huckabee seemed prepared to make that vile statement. I think it was planned. Bastard.</p> Haven’t had a chance to read the comments above, so I may be repeating something someone else has said, but that did not seem like an unexpected noise to me. Huckabee seemed prepared to make that vile statement. I think it was planned. Bastard.

]]> By: tw3k http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448289 tw3k Sat, 17 May 2008 01:19:13 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448289 <p>that is funny, fork BillO.</p> that is funny, fork BillO.

]]> By: tw3k http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448288 tw3k Sat, 17 May 2008 01:16:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448288 <p>spew on bull snort</p> spew on bull snort

]]> By: dmac http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448286 dmac Sat, 17 May 2008 01:08:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448286 <p>thnaks for the love, i was sensing a shift in the way things are, like a hydrometor…….</p> <p>decided to voice it.</p> <p>my former’s uncle said i am a weather indicator…..it’s a gift…….</p> thnaks for the love, i was sensing a shift in the way things are, like a hydrometor…….

decided to voice it.

my former’s uncle said i am a weather indicator…..it’s a gift…….

]]> By: Frank33 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448285 Frank33 Sat, 17 May 2008 01:06:44 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448285 <p>Keith O had a body language expert analyze BillO. BIllO has his own body language “experts” on frequently. But Stacey is hilarious and quite snarky.</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXW9GvIyVlw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXW9GvIyVlw</a></p> Keith O had a body language expert analyze BillO. BIllO has his own body language “experts” on frequently. But Stacey is hilarious and quite snarky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXW9GvIyVlw

]]> By: Hugh http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448284 Hugh Sat, 17 May 2008 01:05:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448284 <blockquote><p>For the same reason these same strict constructionists believe that the Ninth Amendment is meaningless?</p></blockquote> <p>Pretty much, they only believe in strict construction when it fits in with their conservative agenda.</p>

For the same reason these same strict constructionists believe that the Ninth Amendment is meaningless?

Pretty much, they only believe in strict construction when it fits in with their conservative agenda.

]]> By: tw3k http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448283 tw3k Sat, 17 May 2008 01:02:22 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/hey-didja-hear-the-one-about-the-uppity-black-man/#comment-1448283 <p>troglodyte humongous, lol!</p> troglodyte humongous, lol!

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