A woman who spends years in medical school emerges to take her place alongside a panoply of male physicians—who, on average, make 38 percent more than she does. Female attorneys fare better—they make 30 percent less than their male counterparts. But it’s not just a matter of higher pay for men in traditionally male occupations: Male registered nurses are paid 10 percent more than women—even though 90 percent of RNs are women.
This data, from a report by the AFL-CIO Department for Professional Employees, touches on just one of the many "challenges," to utilize a euphemism, U.S. working women face today.
Working women have lots of concerns. Equal pay. Balancing work and family. Job security. Health care coverage. Paid maternity leave.
The AFL-CIO and our community affiliate, Working America, are providing a chance to share those concerns through our just-launched online 2008 Ask a Working Woman survey [pdf]. The bi-annual survey enables working women to share workplace concerns about such issues as equal pay and stronger family and medical leave laws. (Click here to take the survey and here to share it with other working women.) The Ask a Working Woman survey runs through June 20.
We’ll compile the survey results and give them to candidates running at all levels of public office to help shape the policy agendas of incoming lawmakers.
More than 22,000 women took part in the 2006 Ask a Working Woman survey—with the majority saying they were worried about such fundamental economic issues as paying for health care, not having retirement security and pay not keeping up with the cost of living.
And that was when the economy wasn’t in the sewer. Today, 87 percent of Americans say the economy is getting worse, matching the year’s high. But women are at greater economic risk today than in past recessions, according to a new study. In the past year, women’s real wages fell by 3 percent, compared with half a percentage point for men’s wages.
Other findings include:
- Women also are disproportionately at risk in the current foreclosure crisis, since women are 32 percent more likely than men to have subprime mortgages.
- Women have significantly fewer savings to fall back on in a time of economic hardship. Non-married women have a net worth that’s 48 percent lower than non-married men, and women are less likely than men to participate in employer-sponsored retirement savings programs.
And as working moms know all too well, the United States doesn’t make it easy for mothers to raise children. In a selection of 19 countries with comparable per capita income, the Economic Policy Institute (EPI) found the United States provides the fewest maternity leave benefits in both length of leave and paid time off. That doesn’t include any disability insurance for which mom may qualify.
The U.S. federal Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA), which has been the law for 15 years, gives eligible parents 12 weeks of unpaid leave to care for a new child. Aside from being unpaid, the leave is limited to workplaces of more than 50 employees, which excludes about 48 million workers. About two-thirds of the women who responded to the 2006 AFL-CIO Ask a Working Woman survey said they don’t have paid family leave benefits.
Debra Ness, president of the National Partnership for Women and Families, told a congressional committee last month there are millions of workers eligible to use FMLA but don’t because they can’t afford to take unpaid time off, especially low-wage workers. Said Ness:
Without some form of wage replacement, the FMLA’s promise of job-protected leave is a chimera for too many women and men. In fact, 78 percent of employees who qualified for FMLA leave and needed to take the leave did not because they could not afford to go without a paycheck.




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BTW Awesome post. I was hoping to see the candidates (okay i’ve heard mccain’s woman position) speak more on working womens issues/concerns etc.
jus cogens!
Hi, Everyone! I have to leave for a bit of an emergency (cousin’s surgery moved up a bit earlier than planned to day and I have to run).
But we’re fortunate that Karen Nussbaum, Director of Working America and former director of the Labor Department’s Working Women division (under Clinton, natch) and founder of 9to5, National Association of Working Women, is on board now to answer questions and talk about the issues that concern us working women.
Tula
But the bigots have been working getting petition signatures to get it on the November ballot. Guess they knew the CA SC was gonna tell ‘em to take their bigotry elsewhere.
Just put in my two cents on the survey
Seein’s how there’s a little gender discrimination goin’ on with this survey I won’t take it. /s*g*
Hi, this is Karen Nussbaum, executive director of Working America. Thanks for your interest in the Ask A Working Woman Survey. Hope you’ll complete the survey and forward it to your friends.
Welcome to the Lake, Ms Nussbaum.
I guess us guys can just help by diggin it.
Hi Tula,
hugs for your cousin.
and thanks for the survey.
Karen – are there any figures out there on how many women(either gross figures or percentages)are temporary workers?
Hi, Tula and Ms. Nussbaum. I took the survey. My only suggestion might be to have a “not applicable” choice for those of us who have never had children for the questions regarding children/child care. I certainly sympathize with what the women I work with are going through, but I didn’t really feel I should give answers not based on personal experience.
Roger that. Guess I ought to register at Digg. Gotta register to take a leak nowadays. Sheesh.
Maternity leave is a little better than it used to be. I asked the hospital if I could take a couple months maternity leave [in the 80’s] and they said, sure, if you still get all your work done!
It is time for every american to examine what they want for their future. Something tells me that Obama’s message is going to bring a lot of people to think like they haven’t before. If he can equate the problem that working class people have, and how to fix it, he wins. Since there is no chance in hell that McSame can speak of anything that would bite his base in the ass, he will promise no new taxes and and no new programs. It will be all about the war.
when we can be rid of most of the criminal regime we have had to deal with, we will make great changes. But please, try to realize that a war and martial law may predate an election, and we must not allow that to happen. We must have an election, and that is in considerable doubt when so many hundreds of well known TV personalities from our government are likely to be on trial next year. Some are going to be on trial for treason.
Let’s not lose sight of what they will do to prevent not only the people’s choice, but not retaining power. Shooter has all ready told the american people on several occasions, and bluntly, that they do not care what the people of this country want or think. The idiot is blaming the next president for Hamas, a government that he installed? There is far too much fiction in front of the public for anyone to realize how corrupt and how many crimes have been committed. Do not let down your guard for what is clearly a fascist junta. It would be what they expect of us, because they believe us to be sheep.
I thought we just fixed that a few days ago. I’ll check on it. It should say “not applicable.”
OK, forgive me if I’m obtuse, but how can this be for nurses? Salaried people like doctors and lawyers or others, I get that, and believe it is a real problem. Im an intensive care physician, and unless I’m off base, hourly wages for RNs are fairly well carved in stone, and based on objective criteria.
How can male nurses, and I’m presuming we’re talking equal hours here, be making more than females?
And, please be gentle with me if I’m being toad-like.
Cheers,
Folks are fairly lucky in the healthcare biz, because so much is “pay graded” by degree and/or certification, plus shift differential if applicable. It’s very different in other industries, or even if you’re a secretary in the medical office and find out that the new secretary was hired making 25% more than you make… Been there, and it’s NOT fun. (Me, I pitched a fit back when that happened and got a 25% raise by threatening to quit. So I supposed I should be grateful in a perverse sort of way…)
Re temporary workers — I used to know all those stats by heart but don’t know off hand now. The Institute for Women’s Policy Research http://www.iwpr.org is a great source for information on women’s employment.
The overview is that temporary work is growing and that women are a growing portion of the marginal workforce. For example, working nights or moonlighting — used to be men by a long shot, now women are as likely as men to work non-standard shifts. Growing numbers of ALL workers are finding themselves in non-standard jobs, without benefits, with no control over work hours, and often misclassified as independent contractors and not workers at all.
If nurses have set hourly wages which are transparent it’s probably because they are in a union. There is a vastly smaller difference in pay between men and women in union jobs because they are set by contract, equal pay is the standard, workers can see if there are discrepancies and file a grievance to fix it.
But overall women still have big problems with equal pay — just check out Lilly Ledbetter’s case.
I wonder about the causes of these problems.
Let me give a personal example from my own life. I have no idea how indicative it is, and this is entirely anecdotal evidence, but I wonder if it points to some of the causes of the problem.
My wife is pretty hardworking (to say the least), and the school where she works appreciates her. However, they recently offered her a contract (she works year to year) that was low by about 10%. She wasn’t going to argue it, until I pointed out that she wasn’t going to get anywhere without arguing with them about her salary. After much debate, she decided to do it, but she really didn’t want to rock the boat. Turns out, they had made a mistake on the contract, and were happy to up her salary back to the promised amount. Her female coworkers, it turns out, had similar problems– they could only get raises when they asked for them, and none of them asked, for fear of rocking the boat. Is that fear indicative of perhaps one of the root causes of this disparity? Or were these just an isolated incidents?
Another possibility occurs to me: back a few years ago, when everyone got up in arms (rightfully so) about Barbie saying “Math is hard!”, seemed to indicate that there was a serious problem teaching math to girls. Could it be that many of the financial problems women are finding themselves in today could result from poorer math education? My own personal theory, backed by no real data whatsoever, is that the entire subprime mortgage crisis has come from the greed of many of the players involved, such as the mortgage brokers getting paid more for shakier, more expensive loans. Couple (potentially?) poorer math education coupled with a ‘nesting instinct’ that I see in my wife and many of her friends, which made them all incredibly real-estate-acquisitive even at the height of the bubble, have contributed to the financial crises (38% more subprime mortgages in women?) these women face? and I wonder if perhaps people were perhaps not being trained properly to understand the contracts, and women were being targeted by predatory lenders because “math is hard”.
These are just my first knee-jerk reactions to the pay disparity gap. I’m not saying there isn’t a problem; I’m just curious as to the root causes, and how one could go about fixing them.
One way that supposedly “equal” hourly pay can be fudged is by the range in hourly pay for a given job, to allow for annual increases, seniority, etc. That’s what happened to me — the hospital had pay grades and one of the administrators in the practice hired someone in (who couldn’t even spell otolaryngologist, by the way) at about 50% up the pay scale for the job description after screaming at Human Resources until he wore them down.
I don’t understand it either, but it happens.
I worked in a local hospital for 10 years and I heard female nurses talking about finding out that male nurses made more than they did.
I think the male nurses were seen in a different light.
I’ve read in nursing journals about this since the 80s. Infuriating.
I worked as an office worker and organized office workers for years. We always felt that when a man came into our workforce, the boss would look at him and say, “now, that guy has management potential.”
I think you’re right. Men who are in “women’s” jobs are looked at differently.
Yep, whenever a guy does it, it immediately gets upgraded.
I noticed early on that men moved up the ladder awfully fast, too. By the time male nurses were showing up in the rural south, they wel already department heads, etc.
This may seem obvious, but I have to say that unionized jobs with contracts pay standardized rates–that is, equal pay–for equal work performed, regardless of the worker’s sex, ethnicity, race, age, creed or political affiliation (ahem).
I believe we desperately need national legislation mandating equal pay for men and women to cover all non-union and managerial positions, but joining a union and negotiating a contract are the best tools working folks have to achieve equal pay now.
Tula! excellant. Bring on the women that rock the status quo. I have watched fellow workers who don’t have paid maternity leave. It’s sad and it’s sucks.
I’d love for male employers to be put in the woman’s place and know what it feels like to have to stay up around the clock for feedings and diaper changes those first few months and have to worry about health problems when the children are born premature etc.
Exactly, or they never heard of it.
I also think the disparity can depend upon who the employer is. Private vs public. I technically work for the State. My base salary is published every year, along with every other State employee. In my department, the pay grades(job classification) and ranges of salaries within the pay grade can vary a bit. There is one guy that was hired two weeks before me. I make 1k more than he does. There is another guy that was hired 18 mos before me and his salary is 9k more than mine. All three of us are in the same job classification. Around three years ago, I was making about 2k more than a guy that had been here 12-15 years longer than I had been. But, then again, no-one really liked him (and wasn’t really performing) and couldn’t figure out how to get rid of him.
Great article and concept (survey) – but let’s face facts, unless you include/consider all who are being underpaid for equivalent work… then it’s only partially legitimate.
I’m male, but I’m african american and I know I make10-20 percent less than my white male counterparts (even those w/ less experience) – and over the course of several decades I can not escape the fact that it’s racial discrimination… just as gender discrimination is at the root of the pay disparity among women.
Just a thought… and no, I’m not saying “Whaaaaaaa, but I’m more oppressed” – just pointing out that if we as a nation are going to address and redress issues of inequality we have to help everyone at once, rather than piecemeal.