Around the blogs today, there's a good deal of commentary, consternation, and near-confusion over the hallucinatory vision laid out today (and already memorialized in an online ad) by Mr. Double-Talk Express, John McCain, today:
By January 2013, America has welcomed home most of the servicemen and women who have sacrificed terribly so that America might be secure in her freedom. The Iraq War has been won. Iraq is a functioning democracy, although still suffering from the lingering effects of decades of tyranny and centuries of sectarian tension. Violence still occurs, but it is spasmodic and much reduced. Civil war has been prevented; militias disbanded; the Iraqi Security Force is professional and competent; al Qaeda in Iraq has been defeated; and the Government of Iraq is capable of imposing its authority in every province of Iraq and defending the integrity of its borders. The United States maintains a military presence there, but a much smaller one, and it does not play a direct combat role.
Eric Martin observes at Obsidian Wings that in this effort to substitute fantasy for policy prescriptions, McCain is "employing the Glenn Reynolds Field Manual" ("What should the U.S. do in Iraq now?" "Win."), but there's really more than that going on here.
In my periodic missives on political framing, one of the themes I've explored is the GOP effort to maintain its perceived position (as George Lakoff has famously identified) as the daddy party. McCain's speech is an attempt to reach those voters who, consciously or not, would prefer to be ruled than governed -- to elect not a representative, but a supreme authority whom we need only to obey. The implicit message is that if we elect McCain as our national father figure, the goals he describes will come about by sheer force of his determination, with no further thought or effort on our part.
As I wrote more than two years ago, the rhetorical strategy is to "Remind everyone that they're the strong daddy, and as long as they're in charge, the children (also known as us) shouldn't waste time second-guessing about what they're doing." Of course, I wrote that about our current president, making this stylistic choice another way that -- surprise! -- McCain is turning out to be just a would-be extended version of George Bush.
What to do about it? Well, since this is such a timeworn GOP approach, I've written about that, too, here in early 2007:
The absurdity of such spin after all this time shows us what the antidotes are: facing reality, appropriate derision of those who would rather live in a fantasy... and, above all, communicating to the broader public that they -- we -- are fully equipped to judge reality and determine the best response to it, rather than waiting for some Wizard of Oz-like daddy to tell us what to believe.
Still seems like the right answer to me.
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Wishful thinking does not make good foreign policy.
John “100 years” McCain needs to answer some questions.
Bob in HI
Swopa!
Nonsense. The man is full of nonsense. Sycophant; flippidy nobody.
Hideous fuckery*! That’s what it is!
Bob in HI
*FDL term of art, ca. 2007
flippidy
great word.
At first I thought that McCain youtube ad was a joke. Do they expect people to take that seriously?
Wonder how he predicted the future of Vietnam in, oh let’s say, 1968?
Digg this
at this point mcinsane is willing to say or do WHAT EVER it takes to become potus!! flip? flop? uhh yeahhhhhhhh jus sayin
Ok, all together now, let’s crank up the Blackwater paranoia machine:
Ponies for everyone! And ice cream! Everything is possible, here in Fantasy Land.
If we leave Iraq there will be chaos and bloodshed in the Middle East.
-G
McCain has apparently concluded that giving Al Qaeda a timeline in the heat of a campaign is now OK.
Old men are young again!
-G
Any port in a storm.
So just what is McCain’s secret plan for victory? And why didn’t he ever tell Bush?
i think trex got it from amy winehouse in 2006 (from her song Me & Mr Jones (Fuckery) - although i have not asked trex to confirm, so this is still just my best guess.
and not to worry, for anyone who was around last time this topic came up - not to worry, i promise not to go through the whole thing again.
I don’t know; isn’t it a little early in the campaign to be doing a time-travel story?
Indeed, that is from whence it came.
Time is a western concept.
I am beginning to feel sorry for Ole John. Ole John is a big sorry assed jerk who is being used and abused by his party. He is their sacrificial lambchop.
Can anyone say Stockholm?
Or Schenfraude.
Or, better yet, call bullshit.
Ask McCain how he intends to pay for 5 more years of war. Ask him where will he get the solders if the army is near its breaking point?
I’m guessing either eternal stop loss loss orders that might violate the Constitution on slavery, or McCain will have to call a draft.
Keith is on. Back later!
i wanna unicorn
actually quite in use in the UK. Mr uses it all the time.
Swopa! I like fubars fancy art work.
As for McCain Daddy.. I wouldn’t claim him as a distant cousin.
is it a new word or has it been in common use for awhile?
It is a good word, Dearie
flippidy-floppidy foo!
Heh, we could rewrite the Disney song to ridicule McThuselah. Well, someone with more inspiration than I have at the moment could, anyway.
FunnyD
Any mention of Blackwater? Or is Iran so well liked in the area that only Americans would shoot at them?
fuckery
A patois slang word of Jamaican origin. Means bullshit but could also indicate something unfair or wrong.
Patois: Is peer fuckery the police gwaan wid.
English: The police keeps up nothing but fuckery.
I figured we’d fill in the blanks.
I was thinking more along the lines of mandatory drug tests!
raven - check out this thread from march.
been in use for quite some time (according to Mr wobbs of London, England)
Give me a a little more of a lead in to work with:)
years, decades or centuries?
I recall it well. I just find it funny that people got all huffy yesterday because it wasn’t dignified to call Mc Caullife (sp)a shit eatin dog fucker (which he is).
keith’s subtitle: Hornet’s Knesset.
LOL. what has happened to our distain for pearl clutching and fainting couches?
….. i missed that one. now, i’m gonna have to find it to read.
Ok John knows that the Maliki government is in bed with Iran so if we keep helping Maliki get rid of al Sader we are handing this country to Iran.
John and the GOP hate Iran so if John gets what he wants well in 5 years after his success we will be fighting Iraq and Iran.
*jumping up and down waving hand and arm* Me, me, teach, I know, teach, I know!
Sheeeit.
Sorry, it was “civility” that was asked for and fuckery certainly projects that.
he says many decades. It has caught on in the US most notably via Amy Winehouse.
waving Hi from NYC….. overheard at next table at Greek restaurant at 50th & 9th Ave…….
“why is Hillary still in the race?”
“Worried about McCain getting a free ride during this time in the Dem primary”
“That Cindy McBush is a piece of work”
Well as I got up to leave the restaurant….. said McBush is very crooked, quoted the number of lobbyists on his campaign, we need an explaination how Miss CindyLou got off from the DEA investigation for her narcotic thief and that if anyone talks of her in AZ they put in the word B*tch……..
Drop that factoid when ever I can….. got a died hard NYC gay republican said that he will NEVER vote for McBush ….. it is so much fun….. one at a time …… asked that if he can’t vote for Obama…. to vote for Bob Barr or not at all…. ;)
I forgot, he was tied up, at least during the great “pharmaceutical event” hardy fucking har.
For the clown in question I’d say it’s too dignified.
Wasn’t he sitting out the war in a POW camp?
Cause he should has been referred to as a Coprophagian Canine Copulator. I was outraged myself, there is simply no excuse for such vulgarity, let us all strive for precision in our language.
I have this nagging idea that this Juno person is a really good soul. . .and a great punching bag!
We didn’t use no such language in dogface land.
I used to live at 51st and 10th Ave. for a few months back in ‘94.
thank you.
KO is slicin and dicin big bad john
And, indeed, somewhat of an embarrassment to the Coprophagian Canine Copulator-American community.
Keith is taking apart, line by line McThuselah’s “Four Year Fantasy”
Is the GOP poll testing their messages anymore this vision doesn’t pass the laugh test? I wonder if McCain will pull this message all on his own or will he wait for MSM to show him polls that its a loser.
KO “Into the air Junior Birdmen” lookout nonplussed!
And I had to try and get by without TV now!
Know exactly where that is…… thank you and to everyone else who get the word out about McBush….. we are going to be working very hard to make sure McBush looses in AZ…… which shouldn’t be hard since Romney nearly won the primary…
It’ll be on youtube rickey tic.
Belay my references to vulgarity, I have been listening to McCain on KO, the guy is a fucking idiot! God help us if we can’t defeat this person! I say this after years of dealing with people
educateddriven out of their minds by Canoe U. McCain has it really bad. He needs nothing more than a long rest in a peaceful setting, cause he is outta of his fuckin’ (admittedly tiny) mind!American’s want to enlist out of a sense of service? Hello, John?
I asked once if s/he wanted to discuss issues. The answer was “Nope.” So now I just skip any comments where I see the name. Don’t need to jump into a FF just to be in a FF. Had a chief tell us once, “It doesn’t matter how lucky you are or how good you are, you get in enough firefights you’re gonna get killed.” I believed him then and I believe him now.
He’s no worse than what we have.
Chief’s must be squid NCO’s!
just refreshed my memory - i was there, but took no notice not thinking it was big deal until you left. :(
E-7 thru 9. Chief, Senior Chief, Master Chief Petty Officer
Chief Petty Officer is the seventh enlisted rank in the U.S. Navy and U.S. Coast Guard, just above Petty Officer First Class and below Senior Chief Petty Officer, and is a senior non-commissioned officer. The Grade of Chief Petty Officer was established on April 1, 1893.[1]
Unlike Petty Officer First Class and lower ranks, advancement to Chief Petty Officer not only carries requirements of time in service, superior evaluation scores, and specialty examinations, but also carries an added requirement of peer review. A Petty Officer First Class can only advance after review by a selection board of serving Senior and Master Chief Petty Officers, in effect ”choosing their own” and conversly not choosing others.
“I was thinking more along the lines of mandatory drug tests!”
Especially for presidential candidates.
Bob in HI
Gotcha, I had a first shirt who actually broke down crying because we were making a run to Sa Dec and he couldn’t go. He was truly worried about his troops.
With that the full Psych profile that was done on Bush in the book “Bush on the Couch” by Dr. Justin Frank who is a former CIA profiler…..
One response to Bushies speech today.
Barakei: Bush speech at Knesset ‘tantamount to a declaration of war’
That went into effect in 1974. Before that selection boards didn’t exist for advancement to E-7, only 8’s and 9’s. Pass the test and the better your score the earlier you were promoted. Tests given Navy wide twice a year with all advancements effective on the 16th of the month.
Air Force also has Chiefs, i.e., Chief Master Sergeant, E9
Them ol’ guys were some tough m*****f*****s.
Love this response by a reader over at TPM:
rickey tic.
tavi?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rikki-Tikki-Tavi
So I’m a Mongoose?
Cool! although I’m not sure of the reasoning behind it.
laura and grit tv upstairs
rickey tic, short for rickey tickey meaning pretty damn quick
mos’ rickey tic
True it does remind one of Hitler pressuring Poland before they invaded.
Walking to the car after having dinner out. Walked by the county courthouse which has a sculpture on it with a variety of historic names on it. One of them is Smedley Butler of whom I had heard, but not in detail. It turns out he’s from here. Fabulous quote from a book he wrote in 1935 War is A Racket:
There’s a sermon in there but it will have to wait for just the right time. Before the election perhaps?
Still a must read. Short little book, available in pdf.
You youngsters with your fancy way of talkin an slang sheesh it sure gits confusin
I’ll have to download a copy. I should think it wouldn’t be political if I talk about a local hero, huh?
ummm we got a nice surprise from kitty. She ate, burped and we did the whole stimulating-her-bitsnpieces and she peed (as usual) but then came the avalanche of poo.
wow
your welcome
conyers threatens to drag rove to congress to testify re seligman!! loving this…..
Damn good question. Clinton hangover perhaps?
Civil war has been prevented; militias disbanded;
McCain intends to avoid civil war by disbanding the militias?
This guy can’t carry on a civil discussion with an unsympathetic 14 year old girl — how is he going to disband the militias without civil war?
rickey tic is military slang. I don’t know if it came out of Korea or Japan.
Awww, yer makin’ a good mommy and havin’ the time o’ yer life.
kirk has posted upstairs (a few flights up)
I can’t believe this John Alice in Wonderland McCain is taken seriously as a presidential candidate. Can’t wait to see what Colbert does with this shtick.
What is this, a screenplay McKissass is writing. This is the same guy who said, “Gen. Patraeus rides around Baghdad in an amoured Humvee.” Why is he believed by anyone. That “straight talk” moniker is just bullshit.
Yeah, me too. Here’s a link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....9723.shtml