Zed…Zed is dead…long live Zed!!

Attaturk -

Perhaps the moral of this story for the thugs, the talking heads and their masters, and the hired generals might be as follows:

Do. not. muck. around. with progressive bloggers!

Mornin’, Norske -

Time to prime the flamethrower with some caffeine. *g*

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Citizen Attaturk and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:

This story of the coordinated propaganda campaign and the real personas of the players must be broadcast to the American people…as the wheels come of the fascist bus, more and more of this shit is pilin’ up in the street and more and more people are aware of it and are not surprised but jest angry as hell. And that anger is showin’ up EVERYwhere like in Mississippi’s special House election…I jest got back from Kos and lookin at the Tsunami that is gatherin from Mississippi through to the Democratic Senate primary in Nebraska I get the feelin’ that “Somthin’ is happenin’ here…what it is ain’t exactly clear…”.

This November is gunna clear out a lot of deadwood from coast ta coast and in Alaska…by the way, where is ET?

KEEP THE FAITH AND KEEP YER EYES ON THE PRIZE!!

Why are we getting this stuff who is leaking? Not that I’m complaining?

When is Rummy’s book coming out could Bush be trying to discredit Rummy?

Has anyone asked Rummy his story? Not that I think he is innocent but normally a guy screams if he is being maligned in the press Heck Right Wingers love to blame the media even when they are guilty.

This President’s pretty much a victim of success. We haven’t had an attack in five years.

Yipes. D-E-N-I-A-L…”Don’t Even Notice I Am Lying”

I guess being a neocon is never ever ever ever having to say you are sorry.

I couldn’t bring myself to quote the attack line. Is he sounding regretful we haven’t been attacked to prove THOSE YES SOCIOPATHS were right? Rummy still wrestling down democracy, clearly.

After watching Feith the other night and hearing this now… it is stunning there is no molecule of guilt for what they have begotten. Hubris is not a big enough word.

this is incredible stuff attaturk and a great post that got me right out of bed

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld suggesting that America, having voted the Democrats back into Congressional power, could benefit from suffering another terrorist attack, and doing so in the presence of the very same military analysts who went on to provide commentary and analysis of the Iraq War

I want to hear from those people that don’t believe 9/11 was a conspiracy

I think every friggin blog in this country should be pounding this as loud as they can and again point out that millions of people believe this administration had something to do with the attack

this is quite a coincidence because yesterday I was posting just such a scenario over at marcy’s place;

yoo happened to be “coincidentally” hired just before the “surprise” attack on september eleventh

that’s what’s “notable

you know, that “surprise” that everyone knew was comming, the one where the cia was running around with “their hair on fire”, the one clark warned about, tennet warned about and the one that the president was personally briefed, chased down to demonstrate the severity of the warning

that’s what’s “notable”, that yoo just “happened” to be hired right before that and just so “happened” to issue an opinion to cheney

quite a bit of serendipity there

or not

and then the conversation went on;

flight controler’s transcripts were confiscated and destroyed

why the hell would those be destroyed?

NORAD watched commercial airliners do you turns in the sky for 45 minutes and did absolutely nothing

not gonna happen

and while under attack, and we know we are under attack, not only does the president continue with his scheduled appearance, he hangs out at that very same venue for 45 frigging minutes

at a publicized venue

when we know as a fact we are being bombed at political structures

how on earth would the SS protocol be to NOT spirit the president to an undisclosed location?

what the frig is THAT?

YOU CANNOT TELL ME THEY THOUGHT THE PRESIDENT WAS AT RISK

they knew as a fact (somehow) that the president’s PUBLICIZED location was safe from attack

now how on earth could they possibly know that?

how on earth?

Actually, the statements were from an audiotape — so it might be hard to refute…better to ignore it, as the broadcast media are already doing so.

and then look at this post from managedchaos who hits it out of the park, highlights are his

President Bush knew he was not a target the morning of September 11th, 2001.

Before he even arrived to that school in Sarasota, one plane had already crashed into the WTC. The President’s Secret Service detail has direct communications with the FAA. At the time that Bush was sitting in that classroom, the FAA thought there were as many as 8 hijacked planes all over the country. Bush’s visit to that school for the photo op was public information and the location was around 5 miles from an international airport. Bush and his Secret Service detail were so confident that the President of the free world was not a target that morning that they were willing to sacrifice a school full of children to prove that point and continued to allow the President to stay in an unsecured location.
Even after the second plane hit and Andy Card leaned over to tell the President this news, his lack of curiosity and general demeanor tells us all we need to know.

At the very least, the President’s Secret Service detail on 9/11 in that Sarasota school, should be brought up on charges of gross criminal negligence for not removing the President of the United States from a public location and thereby endangering his life and the continuity of our government while under attack.

9/11 was an inside job.

Don’t even get me strated about the Norman Mineta testimony about how he described the plane coming into the Pentagon… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y

Watch it for yourself.

Norad Guy: The plane is 50 miles out, the plane is 40 miles out, the plane is 30 miles out, the plane is 20 miles out, the plane is 10 miles out…Does the order still stand Mr. Vice President.
Cheney: Yes, you haven’t heard anything to the contrary.

So what was the order? The only thing that makes sense is that the order was to let the plane hit it’s target otherwise I’m sure we would have heard some heroic story about some fighter pilot who just couldn’t get to the plane in time to shoot it down. And if they knew that a plane was on it’s way towards DC, why were there no evacuation orders given out to people at the Pentagon, the Capitol and the White House.

Jesus people, use your frickin brains!!

How about we talk about the pilot who flew the plane into the Pentagon using top gun maneuvers yet his instructor says he could barely fly a prop plane. Nothing makes sense except an inside job. How did debris from Flight 93 in Penn end up 8 miles away from the crash site? Look it up.

How long did it take for our military jets to intercept Payne Stewart’s plane?

Attaturk & TCU -

Didn’t these come about as a result of the NYT article on the administration’s use of military analysts? Did they come from a FOIA the Times filed or in response to the article?

Apparently if Bush’s plan to attack Iran doesn’t come to fruition before the election, this is his Plan B.

IF the Dems win…which would be incredible after so much has gone down that they don’t… what a profoundly MASSIVE MESS in all dimensions to be cleaned up… and all that must be mourned and forever lost….

And hearing this… still… THEY PLAN ON???? THEY WILL ON FURTHER HORRORS THEY HAVE SET IN MOTION. Why do I think people who do such horrifying things actually get what they have done. How can they minimize the devastation? That is projecting a conscience on those who are without one. EVIL… PEOPLE OF THE LIE!

…… AFRAID? BE AFRAID, VERY AFRAID. I AM. YOU BETCHA.

This President’s pretty much a victim of success. We haven’t had an attack in five years.

ll -

Those were the two sentences that just reached out and knocked the spit outta me. Iirc, said something yesterday about our shared thought processes…..are you sure we aren’t the same person with different screen names? *g*

my dear cyber-twin… at last I have found you! :)

Yesterday early a.m. was torture… today is military INSANITY. What price consciousness raising, eh?

I guess Rummy is MASTER of rationalization… as are they all. And like with Feith the other night hawking his book… they are clueless of their massive responsibility.

I wrote the post above last night. This morning comes this unrelated, yet logically consistent abomination revealed by the WaPo (Dana Priest is involved naturally):

The U.S. government has injected hundreds of foreigners it has deported with dangerous psychotropic drugs against their will to keep them sedated during the trip back to their home country, according to medical records, internal documents and interviews with people who have been drugged.

The government’s forced use of antipsychotic drugs, in people who have no history of mental illness, includes dozens of cases in which the “pre-flight cocktail,” as a document calls it, had such a potent effect that federal guards needed a wheelchair to move the slumped deportee onto an airplane.

This is the kind of stuff we used to accuse the Soviets of doing:

…more than 250 cases The Washington Post has identified in which the government has, without medical reason, given drugs meant to treat serious psychiatric disorders to people it has shipped out of the United States since 2003 — the year the Bush administration handed the job of deportation to the Department of Homeland Security’s new Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, known as ICE.

Involuntary chemical restraint of detainees, unless there is a medical justification, is a violation of some international human rights codes. The practice is banned by several countries where, confidential documents make clear, U.S. escorts have been unable to inject deportees with extra doses of drugs during layovers en route to faraway places.

Dystopian Nightmares, the only policy the Bush Administration has.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/....._d4p1.html

HOLY SH…..

Where is the monitoring of this? I have a policy of late night messages to Congress. This is worth a calling night…. but who can rally around this strongly in Congress… Feingold?. What atrocities.

A country that kicks its vets to the curb… yeah why would they take care of the detainees even upon release… presumed innocence not EVEN a consideration, of course. But guilt, either, not deserving of this horror.

“Some international rights codes”???? but maybe not ours?

And we ask why other countries don’t like us “so much”… huh?

…..The practice is banned by several countries where, confidential documents make clear, U.S. escorts have been unable to inject deportees with extra doses of drugs during layovers en route to faraway places.….

Interesting, that wee tidbit. What “confidential documents”? Inquiring minds want to know.

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Citizens Attaturk and perris:

We have experienced a fascist coup and a “Reichstag Fire” tragedy that has left our entire social,political and economic system at the mercy of corporate thieves who have left us bankrupt. The American people are NOT stupid and are gettin’ plenty angry, quiet angry, stone cold angry and if the Democrats don’t follow these bastards all the way ta hell and bring ‘em back for trial…well then I’m afraid what might happen.

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, ONCE WE GET ‘EM ELECTED THEN WE TEACH ‘EM TA SHOOT!!

Maybe Mr. Yoo could explain all this.

Bush is in Israel today. Dear God. Working on the legacy? Oy vey.

So … we have been prevented on some occasions of drugging people we are dropping off because… SOP???? After Abu Grab….. Gitmo….SOP must be truly terrifying.

I remember hearing years ago about the corruption and torture practices in the Phillippines… (torture stuff like something about starting with the soles of the feet .. he was into some depressing research)… it was so painful to hear about this stuff I begged my friend not to talk about it. I said I was so glad we didn’t live in such a country.

Thanks for the current “fresh hell” update, Attaturk!

Waccamaw… C U soon! Perris! et al.

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Citizen libbyliberal:

“I remember hearing years ago about the corruption and torture practices in the Phillippines….I was so glad we didn’t live in such a country.”

Vietnam was where our country lost its soul and its moral compass…our “spooks”(CIA) and our “sneeky Petes”(Special Forces) actually taught the Vietnamese a thing er two about “discomfort measures”. Yes Sister libby, our country has been doin this stuff for a couple a hundred years…they didn’t get bored much down on those ante bellum plantations. It’s part of our history and we have still to face it in the mirror…I really don’t know if there’s any hope of redemption for us older folks, I jest hope we ken leave our kids with at least a sense of what we lost or squandered in our hubric youth.

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO!!

I think the title of this thread should be something far more eye opening yet factual

“rumsfeld emails request for another terrorist attack on american soil”

that oughta open some eyes

Morning Attaturk, Firedawgs -

Haven’t been around here in a while. I became fed up with politics and decided to cut the soles off my shoes, sit in a tree and learn to play guitar.

Just wanted to stop by and say hello to all of my Firepup friends.

I see that not much has changed around here. The Cons are still a bunch of hideous bastards.

Keep up the good fight. I’ll be playing for you.

The correction for that, I suppose, is an attack.

As you say perris, if the deniers continue to stick to their position of “no complicity from the WH” these tapes/memos will surely show their position to be false. Am I surprised that Rummy and the rest of the WH is so fucking evil, no. I will not put anything past this bunch of evil doers. There would not be a gaol large enough to hold all the buggers that I would throw in there from this administration given the chance.

O/t -

“Obama to Receive Endorsement of 3 Former SEC Chairmen” WSJ

Quel ? quelle portent? (Is a portent masculine or feminine?) *g*

Apologies but linky FUBAR in preview. Was near the top of the news listing over at DU a few minutes ago.

A protest song would go down quite nicely about right now, if you please.

Welcome home!

quelle augure I do believe.

nomolos, how long have we been calling these people sociopaths?

there is no doubt, there is no price too high, no lives too many, if they can put a few scheckles in their pocket, the price to them is always reasonable

and for what?

look at the damage they have created for their very own children, even the wealthy are not secure from what these sociopaths have deliberately delivered to this country

I have said from the beginning that if the actions and events that were caused by the actions of this president were set to a novel that novel would be called trash for being to rediculous, that an administration could follow the playbook of our enemies page by page, to do everything exactly oposite the advice they are given

that the american public would stand still and allow their actions against this country to continue

we have been overthrown in a silent bloodless coup by a sick fraternity of maniacle sociopaths, a fraternity that boasts of it’s depravity and it’s memebers and calls itself the pnac

look at the damage they have created for their very own children,

They cannot see that far ahead. They only think of themselves, what gain is there for them. These fuckers do not give on sweet shit about Rovian plans for GOP for ever. They have gotten everything they can in the last eight years, have set up their businesses to maximize profits and as far as they are concerned America can go to hell in a handbasket once they have done their eight years.

That is not to say an October “convenient” attack from the WH terrorists would be frowned upon if it would allow them to continue to suck at Americas tit for a few more years.

What the hell has to be done to get these devils impeached?????

Merci ! :-)

someone at muchraker found this;

the Discovery Channel/Military Channel just met with us last week. They want to start broadcasting Pentagon
Channel programming. This news show would be perfect for their network

the friggin deisocovery channel

wonderful

we have been overthrown in a silent bloodless coup by a sick fraternity of maniacle sociopaths, a fraternity that boasts of it’s depravity and it’s memebers and calls itself the pnac

It will take generations to get this country back, to purge the “justice” system of the right wing activist judges and lawyers and to rid the SCOTUS of the snakes and slugs appointed by the pnac puppets.

Attaturk does have a way of wakening the ire in a body first thing in the morning!

Good morning, pups. It’s [sigh] MoDo and Friedman. MoDo has a “Raspberry for Barry,” and says Barack Obama is acting the diffident debutante, pretending not to care that he was given a raspberry by West Virginia, a state he will need in the fall. I see she’s back to portraying Sen. Obama as a little girl… Mr. Friedman writes about “The New Cold War,” and says that the right question for the next U.S. president isn’t whether we talk or don’t talk with Iran. It’s whether we have leverage or don’t have leverage.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and I’ve got bagels and cream cheese today. Later today we’ll be passing the bakery so if they have any there may be chocolate croissants tomorrow… Have a great day.

Morning all :) As usual, great post Attaturk..:)
Duggggg :)

Forget the bakery! What {{{ you }}} provide is sufficient to the day. And have a good one!

Hey….. I was looking forward to the chocolate croissants. I want croissants AND Marion’s comments.

For those of us who need a hint of good news in the morning, here’s some.

And Dana Perino was lying through her pearly white teeth.

tastey marion, allow me;

COFFEEVILLE, Miss. — Democrats scored a remarkable upset victory on Tuesday in a special Congressional election in this conservative Southern district, sending a clear signal of national problems ahead for Republicans in the fall.

as I say, there is not a chance on the planet the gop takes the whitehouse in a legitimate election.

even if the last two elections weren’t stolen we see the margin was incredibly close

that was before the vile hatred the gop has amassed for itself and it was before our primaries demonstrate we have mobilized legions of voters

so how does mccain poll equal to obama?

that is not possible, he can’t possibly poll equal to obama, I believe they are gaming the polls and this dem win in the red precinct drives that point home

teh water is wet, fire is hot

Sort of. The Dem. is without doubt a Dog Dem. Apparently Childers is anti-choice, pro gun, and touts himself as further to the “right” than Haley Barbour. I guess that his is not GOP is a good thing but why do we have to settle for nutfuck Dems?

I’m off to the salt mines, where I generally lurk all day. Weird, though — using IE I can’t see links, just white spaces. No problem at home with Firefox. [trudges toward door]

Good morning Attaturk and pups. Rummy is jaw-dropping here, but I thought his comment sounded familiar. Some of you may remember this from Goldsmiths’s book, as quoted by Glenzilla:

[Goldsmith] shared the White House’s concern that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act might prevent wiretaps on international calls involving terrorists. But Goldsmith deplored the way the White House tried to fix the problem, which was highly contemptuous of Congress and the courts. “We’re one bomb away from getting rid of that obnoxious [FISA] court,” Goldsmith recalls Addington telling him in February 2004.

Looks like wishing for more attacks to get what they want was just a common theme for these sociopaths. For what it’s worth, the Addington quote here is from early 2004 and the Rummy quote is as he was leaving just after the November, 2006 elections.

Good morning everyone!

I wonder if Rummy gave up golf too to show the world he really does have a heart and isn’t a big fat warmongering no good for nothing lying war criminal…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....01595.html

Perris has this correct. These guys came into office (stole the elections) and had an agenda to use force to push US hegemony. They wanted control of energy, hobble markets and let their economic hitmen party around the world by pushing huge projects, debts and so forth on the 3rd world all to make US “industrialists” richer and more powerful. The MIC need more play money, more procurements, more justification for their existence since the big threat of the USSR was long gone and the only conflicts around the world were border disputes and those of indigenous people struggling for rights and justice… most of which we had no dog in those fights.

Peace was not was these guys wanted and so they more than likely let the black ops create the mother of all false flag - 911 which still scares people who have let these SOBs impose a fascist oppressive state so their office building doesn’t come down on them at work.

If the curtain revealing OZ comes open, the people will see that the US is the cause of or feeding these conflicts and “terrorism” and hell bent on using war as “diplomacy” to speak to the nations of the world.

We have been taken by the MIC since after WWII when they realized what a good deal the MIC was for bidness and controlling the people and getting their money.

People are waking up to the fact that the republicans are largely supportive of the top down class warfare on middle class and working people and that they have complete hatred, disdain and animus toward people of color and indigenous people here and around the world. The republicans are racist, classist thugs who would gladlyu sit buy as disasters strike and wipe out people, or AIDS or war, or its after effects.

911 was not the planning of a bunch of angry Islamists in the caves of Afghanistan, but a bunch of them in spook ops in the USA and elesewhere.

Are there radical islamists that hate the USA government? You betcha, and they have good reason, and more so since what we have done in Iraq and jonsin to do in Iran, Syria and any other upstart nation like Venezuela who want control of their resources and don’t want to be a US protectorate/colony.

911 was an inside job and we might see another soon or a REAL coup d’etat as they have everything in place to just make it happen and we won’t do a thing, because we are scared for our lives.

So may we conclude that, all this wishing for another attack, but no attack, means they weren’t behind 9/11? May we finally put that conspiracy to rest?

My thoughts have always been along the lines that they are too incompetent to keep evidence of such an act from surfacing but evil enough to take advantage once the situation presents itself.

No

I agree SanderO. Basically the Bush Regime consists of disgruntled Oil Maggots & other businessmen who live by the concept, “He who controls the oil…controls the planet”, so they had their buddies on the SCOTUS pick them to run our nation. The rest is history.

9/11/01 at the very least was allowed to happen by the Bush Regime who said back in the 1990’s (paraphrasing), “The only way we could get Americans on board in attacking Iraq is for something to happen of historic proportions!”. And gawd said, “Ask and you shall receive, my Lords” and 9/11 came “out of the sky” like a “fireball from gawd”.

Yes.

And this is my last mention of 9/11 conspiracies.

EVAH.

Jim, the Bush family has had a 30 year business relationship with the bin Ladens. It makes sense to me that 9/11 was as easy as a phone call to Osama by Dick Cheney or whomever by asking him, “Hey, we got a plan. You’ll end up a matyr on your end and we’ll get what we want. Send us your best suicide bombers to America. We’ll put them up in apartments and pay for all their needs. And yes. We’ll buy their plane tickets too for their suicide mission. Oh yeah, and if you want, buy some put-options first so you’ll end up with millions for your sacrifice”.

Or something like that.

I mean come on! It wasn’t all that hard to complete. Hell, Cheney was on the ground telling NORAD & the FAA to stand down and to not send up the F-16’s to intercept these planes. And wasn’t it very convenient our military was doing an exercise in the air where they were pretending to be commercial airliners being used as missiles at the same time an attack like that was happening. Ah yes, confusion is always key!

Welcome to the US.
And now we’re going to put you in jail.

Best Wishes,

Your Dept. of Homeland Security Quality Assurance Team

Imus asking Snuffyalupagous to investigate whether Bush is lying about giving up golf, based on some Michael Moore film footage of uncertain timeline.

Snuffy blows him off because he’s got much more important matters on his mind of how to force Obama to suck up to Hillary and put her on the ticket.

Correct. These guys were deep into the murder of 3000 Americans and just used that as an appetizer for the real course of wiping out a million of more muslims and yet another 4000+ American service people. If anyone thinks for one minute that these pigs did not have anything to do with the murders at the WTC they are sadly mistaken.

(((QuakerGirl)))

Imus apologizes to his sidekick Tony because sure ’nuff CBS news timeline shows Bush played golf in October 2003, and didn’t stop in Aug 2003 because of a bombing as Bush has said.

Bush? Lied? don’t tell the children….

How can you tell when that SOB is lying? His lips move.

after almost 8 years of Hell…you just now figured out they are sociopaths……killers for hire…biggest bucks required

Bush lied, children died

check this out from media matters and I am surprised this is not discussed more;

clinton was given an almost identical pdb as bush, if you saw it you might think it was the same pdb it is so close

I believe it’s discussed on page 218 ir 118 of the 911 report but I don’t remember for sure

at any rate, clinton acted on the data, bush not only stood down, took vacation, but actually ignored the template for action

here’s the referance from media matters;

Summary: OpinionJournal.com editor James Taranto cited a 1998 memo to then-President Bill Clinton titled “Bin Ladin Preparing to Hijack US Aircraft and Other Attacks” to claim that Clinton ignored evidence of the danger Al Qaeda posed to the United States. However, the 9-11 Commission detailed an immediate and aggressive response to the memo by the Clinton administration.

In his September 27 “Best of the Web Today” column, Wall Street Journal OpinionJournal.com editor James Taranto responded to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-NY) September 26 claim that “I’m certain that if my husband and his national security team had been shown a classified report entitled ‘Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States’ he would have taken it more seriously than history suggests it was taken by our current president and his national security team.” Taranto pointed out that the “the 9/11 Commission reported that on Dec. 4, 1998, President Clinton received a Presidential Daily Briefing [PDB] titled ‘Bin Ladin Preparing to Hijack US Aircraft and Other Attacks’ ” — suggesting that President Clinton was guilty of the same “inaction” the Bush administration displayed in response to the August 6, 2001, PDB to which Sen. Clinton referred in her comments. Taranto omitted, however, the 9-11 Commission’s description of how President Clinton responded to the 1998 PDB, and how President Clinton’s immediate and aggressive response differed from that of the Bush administration to the 2001 PDB.

Taranto wrote:

If you’re nostalgic for 1998, this is a good week for you. Poor Hillary Clinton, now a U.S. senator, is defending her husband, now an ex-president, after the latter’s bad behavior, namely his outburst on “Fox News Sunday.” The Associated Press reports:

“I think my husband did a great job in demonstrating that Democrats are not going to take these attacks,” Hillary Clinton said Tuesday. “I’m certain that if my husband and his national security team had been shown a classified report entitled ‘Bin Laden Determined To Attack Inside the United States’ he would have taken it more seriously than history suggests it was taken by our current president and his national security team.”

First of all, did Mr. Clinton really do “a great job in demonstrating that Democrats are not going to take these attacks”? It seemed to us that he looked not tough but desperate. He was not strong and resolute; he was lashing out from a position of weakness.

Second, the 9/11 commission reported that on Dec. 4, 1998, President Clinton received a Presidential Daily Briefing titled “Bin Ladin Preparing to Hijack US Aircraft and Other Attacks.”

The 9-11 Commission report — in the same chapter to which Taranto linked– described Clinton’s response as follows:

The same day, Clarke convened a meeting of his CSG [Counterterrorism Security Group] to discuss both the hijacking concern and the antiaircraft missile threat. To address the hijacking warning, the group agreed that New York airports should go to maximum security starting that weekend. They agreed to boost security at other East coast airports. The CIA agreed to distribute versions of the report to the FBI and FAA to pass to the New York Police Department and the airlines. The FAA issued a security directive on December 8, with specific requirements for more intensive air carrier screening of passengers and more oversight of the screening process, at all three New York area airports.

As Media Matters for America noted, this response stands in stark contrast to that of the Bush administration to the August 6, 2001, PDB. The 9-11 Commission stated that Bush “did not recall discussing the August 6 report with the Attorney General or whether Rice had done so” and “found no indication” that his aides further discussed with him “the possibility of a threat of an al Qaeda attack in the United States” prior to 9-11 — this despite the fact that “[m]ost of the intelligence community recognized in the summer of 2001 that the number and severity of threat reports were unprecedented.”

it is really impossible to come away with any other conclusion that this was indeed a conspiracy, they even knew the president’s publicly marketed location was absolutely secure

how could they possibly know that?

In Need Of Motivation? see Christy upstairs

huh?

I cannot connect your two dots

they have been under close scrutiny because they are suspect, they pulled it off one time under cover of complaceny and they doubted they could pull it off again

your dots do not connect ecahn

never mention this at Eschaton,all the first tier will scoff…of course there are few coincidences,where SO MUCH power can be obtained,,,some peeps dont get it

nor did they keep the evidence from the public jim, they have not been competant at all

you are asuming too much, we have the most damaging president in history with facts up the wazoo for impeachment

the evidence abounds and is legion, they have done nothing with that evidence

lets not forget HALLIBURTON( Bush owned),owed billions in law suits for asbestos poisoning

i agree

Christy’s upstairs, with motivation.

As Media Matters for America noted, this response stands in stark contrast to that of the Bush administration to the August 6, 2001, PDB. The 9-11 Commission stated that Bush “did not recall discussing the August 6 report with the Attorney General or whether Rice had done so” and “found no indication” that his aides further discussed with him “the possibility of a threat of an al Qaeda attack in the United States” prior to 9-11 — this despite the fact that “[m]ost of the intelligence community recognized in the summer of 2001 that the number and severity of threat reports were unprecedented.”

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and why has Hillary NOT been banging the drum on this …on the stump?

I laugh when I’m called a ‘conspirator’ when the biggest conspiracy in our nation’s history was hashed out in the 1990’s by the current members of the Bush Regime.

George H.W. Bush first publicized the New World Order on September 11, 1990 and then 11 years later September 11, 2001 happened. And what an 11-year anniversary it was! The Great Warning (911) is now in force.

And I’m the conspirator? Ha!

this is what they GAINED

http://www.heatherwokusch.com/.....038;sid=86

It is very difficult for most Americans to get their head around how evil these bastards are. It is easier to deny that they were complicit in the WTC murders than it is to face the truth. Facing the truth will mean many years of ever new revelations of the doings of these dirty buggers. It is easier to deny and forget.

I think you are correct…it is impossible we are so SELF RIGHTEOUS,but of course WE COULD believe Putin,or the evil Saudis,OR NYBODY not american is capable of this…hahahahahaa

perris - i think it’s like talking about god… we all have our world views, but none of us the kind of evidence that is required to convince others. so, you’re not going to convince me and i’m not going to convince you. that’s probably why i find the topic so frustrating… i hope someday we get all our questions answered - but that day is not today, there’s just too much we don’t yet know.

anybody

there’s just too much we don’t yet know.

There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don’t know we don’t know. So when we do the best we can and we pull all this information together, and we then say well that’s basically what we see as the situation, that is really only the known knowns and the known unknowns. And each year, we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns.

sadlyyes and nomolos - morally i think it’s entirely possible, i think people like cheney and rumsfeld and capable of anything. but it doesn’t necessarily follow that they did. as with my believe (or disbelief) in god - i remain agnostic. and it doesn’t seem like all that important a question to me.

lol.

but yes. i’m not attempting to refute your hypothesis - i can’t. i’m just trying to argue (probably not very well) that it’s still an hypothesis and far more information needs to come out before it can or should be, imo, treated as a conclusion.

all i know is these evil fucks give/sell weapons to ALL sides…war makes them rich…peace not so much

Maybe through the impeachment process?

A brief, to the point, overview of 9/11: The official government version of what transpired is a conspiracy theory.

The 9/11 Commission basically rubber stamped the Bush administration version, it was a farce.

There is a psychology of denial going with many over 9/11. They are uncomfortable really looking there because of what they might find is beyond what they’re are willing to accept……at this time.

on that we can agree 100%!

Seen in nyc subway car and I think it explains the 1000 yd. stares when talking to family and friends about the *forbidden subject*.

Tell All The Truth

Tell all the truth but tell it slant,
Success in circuit lies,
Too bright for our infirm delight
The truth’s superb surprise;

As lightning to the children eased
With explanation kind,
The truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind.

Emily Dickinson

The truth can hit like a ton of bricks.

we were trying to enjoy the PEACE dividend, MIC was not going to let this happen

Charges dropped for 20th alleged 9/11 hijacker
Los Angeles Times - 3 hours ago
But five other suspects, including the alleged mastermind, face the death penalty at the troubled Guantanamo Bay tribunal. By Carol J. Williams, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer One judge in the Guantanamo Bay military tribunal has threatened to suspend …

oh snap!

link

from Rummy yesterday huffpo

We have not gone on - sufficiently on a war footing. … It’s too much peace time, it’s too much business as usual for my taste.

head against keyboard so often, should just have QWERTY tattooed there

What ever happened to Rummy digging into finding that missing 2.3 TRILLION…Yes Trillion at the DOD in the days before 9/11? The so called “War on Waste” was conveniently sidestepped in the days following the attack and the issue was never resolved. That was $8000 for every man, woman and child in the country at the time.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....5985.shtml

that was……….Sept 10…2001 funny dat

what if a DEMOCRAT…had said we need another attack???
media,hannity,billo…limpballs,coultergeist

A couple of years ago, I noticed pro-military programs I had never seen Discovery air before. I remember it bothering me so much that I had to double check that it was The Discovery Channel, which sadly, it was.

There is so much damage that needs to be repaired, I’m not confident that fixing most of it is even possible.

I know, most curious that timing. I’m not a big believer in coincidence so the startling number involved in the weeks before and after that period of time are a statistical mind boggler.

-War game same day, same scenario
-Put options
-Large asbestos lawsuit over WTC building coming to a head
-WTC buildings just changed hands and new insurance policy pays double
-Missing Pentagon trillions
-Building security taken down for “maintenance” in weeks before
-Marvin Bush + Securicom + Dulles/American Airlines/WTC security contractor = ?
-Hijacker passport found in debris
-Saudi family members flow out of country while all flights grounded (never questioned)

I know there are many more that I missed buy in my mind the biggest one of all…A President that just stole an election in the minds of half the country has some serious goals that involve the need to rally the country. Something that will bury the thought in the minds of the electorate that he is an illegitimate leader. Something that will let him flex his warrior muscle in the countries mind and guarantee his party dominates all branches of government for years to come. Something that squashes the story he may be a draft dodging, cokehead, alcoholic, failed businessman with a history of personal weakness. What could have done all that and so much more?

Pure coincidence.

I did the original research and wrote the original article the quote is derived from, available here:

Correctly Political: Liquid Lunch with Donald Rumsfeld

RUMSFELD: That’s what I was just going to say. This President’s pretty much a victim of success. We haven’t had an attack in five years. The perception of the threat is so low in this society that it’s not surprising that the behavior pattern reflects a low threat assessment. The same thing’s in Europe, there’s a low threat perception. The correction for that, I suppose, is an attack.

This is not the first time a conservative has shared this sentiment, nor will it be the last. Supposedly the invasion of Iraq, the government spying on its own citizens, the torture, the elimination of habeas corpus, etc. are all only a means to protect us from a terrorist attack. Rummy’s admission exposes the grotesque fact that all of these assaults on democracy are actually an end in themselves. In fact, another terrorist attack would be helpful in enabling them to get away with even more of this shit. The cold naked truth is that they are brutal authoritarians. Democracy and human rights are pesky inconveniences that a good massacre of civilians could help them eliminate.