ES!!

dez?

hey Matt!
:)

Evening pups.
ES,
Yer a good man.

we are working on getting the video to work pups

What’s on my mind tonight? I am thinking about the people suffering in Burma and China, my heart goes out to the survivors. I am happy George could sacrifice his golf game for the troops. Such a thoughtful gesture on his part.

Good evning all.. We think YouTube is down.. Excuse me while I scurry around like I can fix it..)

siri, how’s your world tonight?

Just listened to KO tonight. Amazing rage and intelligence.

I’m told that the show started out at a gallop and got better, right up to the finale.
I missed all but the Special Comment. Gonna watch @ 11.

Except he didn’t, really. He just lied and said he did. (per KO)

OK.. Refresh and prepare to smile. The video is working now.

Hey, BK, wobbly is looking for kitty names…! ;-)

Digg it!

All I can think of when I read that are Chimp’s words: “Now watch this drive.”
Bad name, expletive etc.

dugg and thanks, neuro

Yeah. I hear he’s giving up darts for Burma.

I have not been getting that new post notice all day?

It’s good to go, ES! Aloha!

It’s getting sleepy around here. But I STILL want to celebrate the Edwards thingy!

Working for me, ES.
Thanks!

It’s been awhile since it was last spotted…! ;-)

me neither.
and it doesn’t show at the end of the page either.

it bellyflopped and the tech crew are working on the fix… more difficult than expected so we are back to giving ya a link in the downstairs post that there is a new post upstairs.

ES, when I saw the title of the video I expected it to be Chimpy catching his “big fish” in his stocked pond…you know, the thing he is most proud of during his presidency? (discussed on earlier thread)

They are like boats, ya gotta see their characteristics.

Besides, I don’t have a great track record. LMAO

Ruh-roh!

I’m also waiting for the Lakers to go to bed, boyfriend is all engrossed.
Good to c’ya Matt!

… and Cricket for the victims of terrorist bombs in Jaipur, India …

*sigh* maybe zed is dead after all…!

Hi Matt - did you catch Keith Obermann’s great takedown of lying Shrub on MSNBC earlier this evening - assume the network site has a video up by now.

hehe
omg
I forgot about that.
lol

As for Chimpy’s stupidest or most outrageous remark or whatever the characterization was, it might have been the one Keith broadcast tonight about how if we elect a Democratic president we will suffer another terrorist attack…I could scream.

Buenos noches!

**snicker** Would have been a funny link / juxtaposition in the post if the story wasn’t so old.

Hi npb!
KO right here.

Is Jesca Hoop from New Orleans? She sounds a little like “Loose Marbles”.

I loved the vid. Made me happy. There seems to be a wonderful freshness happening with music/vid these days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ature=user

he’s going to Crawford to clear brush for the Chinese.

A little triva about Jesca Hoop per her wiki page:

Jesca Hoop is an American singer-songwriter and composer born in Southern California to strict Mormon parents. She grew up singing traditional folk tunes in 4 part harmony. She broke away from her background, becoming a homesteader in the wilderness areas of Northern California and Wyoming; and worked in the remote mountains of Arizona with a rehabilitation program for children.

Crooks & Liars has it, I watched it there. The anger and sarcasm in KO’s voice certainly came across.

Whoops.. last line about Jesca

As a nanny for Tom Waits and Kathleen Brennan’s three children, Hoop gained both musical experience and notoriety. Waits says, “Her music is like going swimming in a lake at night.” The Los Angeles Times considers Hoop one of ten Southern California artists that are “new and notable in 2007.”

I nominate Martin Van Creveld the Israeli war historian for the FDL book club any of his books will do but this interview SHINES

Interview with Martin van Creveld
By Sonshi.com

When you talk about military history and strategy, you can’t help but cite Dr. Martin van Creveld, author of such notable works as The Transformation of War and Supplying War: Logistics from Wallenstein to Patton. He has written 17 books so far and is a professor at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem, where he has been teaching since 1971.

According to Dr. Chet Richards, van Creveld’s Fighting Power was among the late Col. John Boyd’s favorites. Any book worthy of John Boyd’s attention is worthy enough for any serious student of strategy.

His book The Transformation of War tells us of fourth generation warfare (4GW) — not the term he used but that’s what it is. Richards wrote, “Van Creveld has seen the future, and you won’t like it: It’s non-trinitarian, non-Clausewitzian, and probably not winnable by organized state armies.” In other words, more like the world Sun Tzu competed in. Martin van Creveld, then, is not only a foremost thinker of warfare’s history but also of its future.

As you will see in our interview with him, he did not mince words with us. And we wouldn’t want it any other way. When we informed him of a news article about how Bush officials bristle at the suggestion the war in Iraq looks like Vietnam, he replied, “Well, let them do some bristling. These people should be impeached, tried and punished for misleading the American people into a senseless war. They can then spend their time in prison reading Clausewitz and Sun Tzu.” Whether you agree or disagree, Martin van Creveld’s words have substance and are not mere conjecture. Dismiss them at our nation’s peril.

To read more about Dr. van Creveld and his works, go to Google’s scholar feature. Enjoy the interview!

Sonshi.com: In your book The Art of War: War and Military Thought, you stated Sun Tzu’s The Art of War is “the best work on war ever.” This is a distinct compliment to Sun Tzu considering your vast knowledge and analyses of history’s works on warfare, from von Buelow to Jomini to Clausewitz. Would you mind sharing your thoughts about Sun Tzu and what distinguishes him from other military writers?

van Creveld: Let me start by saying that Sun Tzu does not need my praise. His work has lived for over two thousand years, and will surely live for another two thousand without any help from me.

To my mind, what sets Sun Tzu apart are the following three qualities.

First, like Clausewitz’s On War, The Art of War is not a cookbook. It does not focus on telling readers how to make war, but provides an entire philosophy. By so doing, it raises itself above the momentary political, economic, social, technological, and cultural circumstances under which it was written. It creates a framework for thought that may be used by anyone out to understand or wage war, at any time, at any place.

Second, unlike On War, The Art of War is a Daoist text. The significance of this is that Sun Tzu sees war not as a means to an end, let alone as a positive good, but as a necessary evil. While fully aware of the vital role war plays in human affairs and prepared to do whatever it takes to win, he never allows the reader to forget what a horrible business it is. This in turn results in The Art of War being pervaded by a deep humanity which On War, precisely because it treats war as a means to an end, does not display.

Third, whereas On War is a weighty philosophical treatise The Art of War is at the same time a work of art; in this respect it resembles Lao Tzu as well as Plato. I am no Chinese scholar, but those who are tell me that each word rings like a bell. To some extent, this quality comes through even in translation.

Sonshi.com: You have lectured or taught at virtually every strategic institute in the Western world, including the US Naval War College, and have already written 17 books. What first got you interested in writing and teaching about military history and strategy, and what keeps you continuing to do so?

van Creveld: For an answer, look up the introduction to Plato’s Republic. Here, Socrates says that the imaginary city he and his interlocutors are about to construct will act like a magnifying mirror for looking into the human soul. With war, things are similar. More than any other human activity, war subjects men—both as individuals and in large groups—to the most extreme conditions. By so doing it brings out the human soul in all its baseness and all its glory.

Sonshi.com: It has been said there are two major camps in the US military leadership: Those who follow the principles of Clausewitz and those who follow the principles of Sun Tzu. Do you agree in general? If so, which of the two ideas do you think will apply more in future wars? If not, what doctrines or sets of principles do you see the US military leadership following?

van Creveld: I doubt whether the U.S military leadership has followed either Clausewitz or Sun Tzu, or else it would hardly have gotten itself involved in an unwinnable war in Iraq.

In the future as in the past, both Clausewitz and Sun Tzu will undoubtedly have a lot to offer. As to the U.S, I do not see that it follows any particular set of principles except hypocrisy: meaning, the heart-felt need to dress up its extraordinary hunger for power with fine-sounding phrases about freedom, democracy, women’s rights, etc.

Sonshi.com: You believe the current US involvement in Iraq will end up like the Vietnam War. What are the major parallels? In a more philosophical sense, why do we as human beings do not tend to learn from our history and past mistakes, especially in a serious matter as warfare?

van Creveld: Both Iraq and Vietnam are, to use the terminology I developed in The Transformation of War, non-trinitarian conflicts. Experience shows that almost all countries that tried to fight such wars from, let us say, 1941 on, have lost, as did the U.S itself in both Vietnam and Somalia. Why should the war in Iraq end up differently?

Concerning the second question, you really should ask Mr. Bush. According to Carl Woodward’s Bush at War, which has many verbatim reports of the decision- making process that led to Iraq, Bush, repeatedly referred to Vietnam, adding that “I am not stupid”. Why, assuming the reports are correct, he nevertheless decided to go to war escapes me and will no doubt preoccupy historians to come.

http://www.sonshi.com/vancreveld.html

but he just can’t quit doing a DAMNED thing for the US tornedo victims.
how is that familiar, somehow?

((( ES )))

How’s it goin’ eh ?

The most outrageous thing Bush ever said in his life was when he recited his pledge to defend the Constitution.
Makes ya wonder if Laura has a fuckin’clue.

i’m sorry, who or what is ko

That’s a chunk of truthiness!! And Pickles Stepford is on drugs. I thought everyone knew.

Wonderful Petrocelli.. A beautiful night!

please only use fair use and a link - the servers and the original author will appreciate it.

fair use is usually determined to be 250 words or less

Keith Olbermann.

Keith Olbermann, strider.
:)

Pickles is an Executive Stepford Wife.

From The Guardian

Ancient bust of Caesar found in French river

Angelique Chrisafis in Paris
Thursday May 15, 2008
The Guardian

He was a military leader turned dictator who had such a complex about his receding hairline that he perfected the Roman comb-over and liked laurel crowns that disguised his bald patch.

In flattering posthumous portraits Julius Caesar was often portrayed as a dashing, healthy-haired, divine being. But now a realistic marble bust believed to be the oldest representation taken during his lifetime has been discovered at the bottom of the river Rhône in France.

…

The French excavation team said this was the only bust of Caesar made during his lifetime, apart from a Turin death mask taken just before or after his death.

…

In a thousand years should they find a bust of Bush they will probably cover it back up.

Keith Oblbermann

Maybe he’d consider quitting spitting in public for them?

Dang, the newshounds beat me to it for the news box, but, this is too good to not highlight…

Republican Election Losses Stir Fall Fears

The Republican defeat in a special Congressional contest in Mississippi sent waves of apprehension across an already troubled party Wednesday, with some senior Republicans urging Congressional candidates to distance themselves from President Bush to head off what could be heavy losses in the fall.

you have to be to get that caliber of meds.

In a thousand years should they find a bust of Bush they will probably cover it back up.

Or call it King Butt.

check back in 5 days or so, or a couple of weeks.
maybe.

It’s always an opportunistic lie - whatever sounds good at the moment.
I’d assumed his security banned golf courses.

Your prayers and good wishes please. I have what is hopefully the very last of my spinal procedures for the year tomorrow morning. Took four days to recover from even a little bit last time.

Good night y’all.

Cindy McCain knows something about getting meds. Limpballs too.

What’s on my mind? Nothing to do with above!

I went to the Countdown page and watched the Special Comment. OMG, Keith was pissed. As well he should be, and us too. Damn that felt good.

I think I’ll watch that at work tomorrow. With the volume up kinda loud. ;)

That’s it. My pumpkin is here. Lakers won!
G’nite all, and thank you ALLLL! I had a lot of fun in here today, and IT WAS A VERY GOOD DAY!

((((TexBetsy))))

ya got it (hand on monitor)

Well, don’t leave us hanging. *g*

I believe a certain political party is getting ready to find out how it feels to get their @ssholes sandpapered and turpentined.
I want video.

Good luck Betsy. I will be thinking about you.

Sending you healing vibes, Betsy !

Hang in there Texb!

you got ‘em, Betsy.

Martin’s Transformation of war is the only foreign book that is required reading at West Point (I think that is book geek hype or I hope it is).
Martin is Israeli, he lives in Israel, his military credentials are better than Rummy, Darth or any NeoCon wannabe. His opinion should reassure Jewish voters who I admit have some reason to be nervous. We need to start building bridges people its not only the Hilary people who we need to reach out to.

“Van Creveld has lectured or taught at virtually every strategic institute, military or civilian, in the Western world, including the U.S. Naval War College, most recently in December, 1999 and January, 2000.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_van_Creveld

Good luck, TexBetsy. I hope this procedure is helpful too. {{{hugs}}}

Be prepared for the ultimate false flag.

TEX!
Good luck darlin”.

but it’s totally OT! and kinda random! but, my day so far! …. this is, like a personal diary….

I bet he’s just lying about giving up golf…and we’ll find out after he leaves office. But it golfing was such an insult to the mothers of those that died in the wars he created then why didn’t he order ALL the WH staff and Pentagon off the links??? And why is golf so “insulting” but superficial entertainments and poseur activities like mountain biking with Lance Armstrong, throwing out pitches at ballgames (Boooooooooo!), or trying his hand at cricket with the Pakistani National team something that shows “respect”.

I suspect he gave it up because his game is deteriorating as fast as his ability to put together a listenable sentence…and his go wasn’t up to being a loser to his old golf-buddies that he could beat. So he blamed his giving up on the war…all those dead kids threw his game off, damn them..”.out spot out!”

Best, Betsy.

I think the economy is going to hurt the Goobers way more than they dread even now.

((((( Valley Girl )))))

Yeah. I hear he’s giving up darts for Burma.

And he’s giving up sex for politics…..

….oh, wait…that really did already happen!

Reuters has a better article than the Grey lady tho…

Republican leaders in the House of Representatives, stung by a third election defeat in as many months, scrambled on Wednesday to regain the confidence of voters as well as some of their own members.

Gathered on the steps of the Capitol building, they showcased a package of largely old proposals to reach out to families, including ones to cut the rising price of gas, make health care more affordable and crack down on street gangs.

“Our members are concerned but they are ready for the message we are rolling out this week,” said Roy Blunt of Missouri, the Republican whip in the House.

Democrats mocked a new Republican slogan — “Change you deserve” — by noting the phrase is used to market an antidepressant.

“Democrats, not drugs, is what the American people need,” said Steny Hoyer of Maryland, the majority leader in the House.

Well it sounds noble to his last remaing 28% of the freepers.

And how about his stupid video looking for “weapons of mass destruction” under the White House furniture?

Now, THAT was respectful.

And so was the squalor at Walter Reed…we could go on.

So, today I went to the first day of a “pedagogy” seminar on Transforming Community, at my U. Theme is “Difficult Dialogs- history of race at xxxx University. How to talk about these issues in the classroom.

Night All! Have a great day tomorrow!

Martin’s Transformation of war is the only foreign book that is required reading at West Point (I think that is book geek hype or I hope it is).

Let’s hope so. Thanks for the interview link, TCU.

You must destroy the Constitution to save the Constitution

I’ll try and do better!

Not only that, but why the hell would anyone ASK Bush about golf? Seriously? Unless it was arranged ahead of time. Politico.com was funded by conservatives, and Mike Allen is a shill. IMHO.

VG - I promise, neither Suz or myself have ever considered LLN anything but an open thread.. Except perhaps on sports stuff. /s

Hey Petro- I’ve been off the intertubes, well FDL until almost just now!

how was it?

Y’all’s da bomb!
G’nite.

Aloha, Matt!

Please send me an update, whenever you can.

Guess I better get my butt to bed too, seein’ as I’m the designated driver.

It’s been a fabulous night. G’nite all!

Aloha, Tex, and ya have my thoughts and prayers…! *g*

It was supposed to be easier to destroy a Presidency, on purpose.

G’nite WDD … I’m of as well, G’nite all !

Aloha, WDD!

Aloha, Petro!

Hope you do alright TexBetsy

G’ nite WDD and P.

neuro- very very interesting! Have to create a class syllabus at the end, based on these issues. I am the only scientist in the group! Pretty obvious for the rest of them how to put this material in to new or existing classes, but I am struggling. So, I came home and spent 5hrs on teh google, trying to find resources. Actually found some great stuff.

The same philosophy was used on Iraq, ya gotta destroy it…!