<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Handling Immigrants The Republican Way &#8212; Like Cattle</title>
	<atom:link href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/</link>
	<description>Firedoglake weblog</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:12:41 -0600</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1445001</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1445001</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mr. Salerno’s treatment is appalling.  The loudest thing it shouts is that the hiring and training of customs and immigration staff has fallen to new lows, and that the mantra is that nothin’ bad will happen to them if they just keep out whomever the hell they please.  Regardless of facts and circumstances. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Salerno is a poster child that illustrates some of the most glaring faults of Michael Chertoff’s customs and immigration service.  Here’s why:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dulles receives more foreign visitors - government, business, tourist - than all but a handful of other airports, Kennedy, SFO, O’Hare, Miami, LAX, among them, Mr. Salerno.  He is handsome, good looking, university educated, a practicing lawyer, which means he’s been vetted by the Italian state for his character and associations and has no criminal record.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He has adequate wealth, unlike the thousands who pound the sands and cactus on the Mexican-USA border, to travel here often and legally from a friendly European state.  He has the means to maintain himself here, he’s no threat to the public purse or to the peace, and return home.  He has upper middle class friends who live and work in Metro DC, within thirty miles of his arriving airport.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Despite all that, Mr. Salerno had the audacity to come here more often than some local customs officer - working at possibly the single most important international airport in America - thought good for him.  He challenged his right to enter.  Mr. Salerno appears to have been unwilling to cower at the customs officer’s power and had the audacity to talk back and to ask to speak to officials from his embassy (who could reach Dulles within an hour).  This customs official cooked up an asylum story, which put Mr. Salerno in a category that allowed for his indefinite, unreviewable detention, and tossed him in the slammer.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No doubt, a more unbiased official looked at the proceedings and decided to hush it up rather than admit what a shit he has working for him.  He thereby abused his discretion.  The interference by qualified lawyers and Virginia’s senior Senator just made Homeland InSecurity more Bushlike in adamantly maintaining that all its people did exactly the right thing.  But as a courtesy, after having taught they Eyetie that he shouldn’t ever come back here, they let him go.  Mr. Salerno is a poster child for Homeland InSecurity’s incompetence and abusive tactics because there are undoubtedly thousands like him we haven’t heard about, who remain in the Gulag of our “immigration” prisons.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Diverting a river won’t clean up half the mess, half the corruption and incompetence that Bush has littered across America.  So we better gird our loins for one helluva clean-up campaign.  One that anticipates that Karl’s Klackers will flood the media with claims that George left everything in perfect working order, so the trouble, the cost, the mess, must be because the Democrats screwed it all up again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Salerno’s treatment is appalling.  The loudest thing it shouts is that the hiring and training of customs and immigration staff has fallen to new lows, and that the mantra is that nothin’ bad will happen to them if they just keep out whomever the hell they please.  Regardless of facts and circumstances. </p>
<p>Mr. Salerno is a poster child that illustrates some of the most glaring faults of Michael Chertoff’s customs and immigration service.  Here’s why:</p>
<p>Dulles receives more foreign visitors &#8211; government, business, tourist &#8211; than all but a handful of other airports, Kennedy, SFO, O’Hare, Miami, LAX, among them, Mr. Salerno.  He is handsome, good looking, university educated, a practicing lawyer, which means he’s been vetted by the Italian state for his character and associations and has no criminal record.  </p>
<p>He has adequate wealth, unlike the thousands who pound the sands and cactus on the Mexican-USA border, to travel here often and legally from a friendly European state.  He has the means to maintain himself here, he’s no threat to the public purse or to the peace, and return home.  He has upper middle class friends who live and work in Metro DC, within thirty miles of his arriving airport.</p>
<p>Despite all that, Mr. Salerno had the audacity to come here more often than some local customs officer &#8211; working at possibly the single most important international airport in America &#8211; thought good for him.  He challenged his right to enter.  Mr. Salerno appears to have been unwilling to cower at the customs officer’s power and had the audacity to talk back and to ask to speak to officials from his embassy (who could reach Dulles within an hour).  This customs official cooked up an asylum story, which put Mr. Salerno in a category that allowed for his indefinite, unreviewable detention, and tossed him in the slammer.  </p>
<p>No doubt, a more unbiased official looked at the proceedings and decided to hush it up rather than admit what a shit he has working for him.  He thereby abused his discretion.  The interference by qualified lawyers and Virginia’s senior Senator just made Homeland InSecurity more Bushlike in adamantly maintaining that all its people did exactly the right thing.  But as a courtesy, after having taught they Eyetie that he shouldn’t ever come back here, they let him go.  Mr. Salerno is a poster child for Homeland InSecurity’s incompetence and abusive tactics because there are undoubtedly thousands like him we haven’t heard about, who remain in the Gulag of our “immigration” prisons.  </p>
<p>Diverting a river won’t clean up half the mess, half the corruption and incompetence that Bush has littered across America.  So we better gird our loins for one helluva clean-up campaign.  One that anticipates that Karl’s Klackers will flood the media with claims that George left everything in perfect working order, so the trouble, the cost, the mess, must be because the Democrats screwed it all up again.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: otchmoson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444852</link>
		<dc:creator>otchmoson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 19:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444852</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was thinking along these very lines. If these immigrants are going to be loaded on the ICE bus . . . a special seat (or seats) should be reserved for the CEO (or his proxy) as well as anyone in the personnel department or in supervisory positions who knew (or were in a position to know that laws were being abridged–the wrongdoing STARTS AT THE TOP.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking along these very lines. If these immigrants are going to be loaded on the ICE bus . . . a special seat (or seats) should be reserved for the CEO (or his proxy) as well as anyone in the personnel department or in supervisory positions who knew (or were in a position to know that laws were being abridged–the wrongdoing STARTS AT THE TOP.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: christine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444721</link>
		<dc:creator>christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444721</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/18861684.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/18861684.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please read the affidavit for the warrant served.  It’s on the left side in a box labled ‘related content’.  The affidavit is in 3 parts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On the surface this is about ‘illegal’ immigrants and that’s what the media is focusing on.  But, in what I’ve read of the affidavit, management heads had better roll on this one.  According to the affidavit, informant #1 was a former empolyee of the Postville plant, in HR.  Accroding to #1, management actively encouraged ‘illegals’ to do ‘wrong’ things (SS, etc), management ’supported’ a meth lab on the grounds, have/had an auto racket going that crosses many county lines.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ve not heard anything about ‘management’ in this deal and plan on asking.  The governor is also on record of saying that he’ll not let employers off the hook and I’ll do what I can to make sure he holds to that.  I’ve read on other boards that some think this raid was to prevent a call for unionization at this plant.  Don’t know if that’s true or not.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;From post #71&lt;br /&gt;
“Maybe in some places, illegal immigration is having a downward influence on wages, but I do not think that is the case everywhere and for all industries. My guess is that a lot of American employers hire illegals just so that they have warm bodies to fill positions.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The meat packers used to pay upwards to $20 an hour.  Now it’s around 10.  That smacks of downward pressure on wages to me.  Now that ‘Big Ag’ is the owner of the meat packing plants, all that matters is the bottom line.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/18861684.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/18861684.html</a></p>
<p>Please read the affidavit for the warrant served.  It’s on the left side in a box labled ‘related content’.  The affidavit is in 3 parts.</p>
<p>On the surface this is about ‘illegal’ immigrants and that’s what the media is focusing on.  But, in what I’ve read of the affidavit, management heads had better roll on this one.  According to the affidavit, informant #1 was a former empolyee of the Postville plant, in HR.  Accroding to #1, management actively encouraged ‘illegals’ to do ‘wrong’ things (SS, etc), management ’supported’ a meth lab on the grounds, have/had an auto racket going that crosses many county lines.</p>
<p>I’ve not heard anything about ‘management’ in this deal and plan on asking.  The governor is also on record of saying that he’ll not let employers off the hook and I’ll do what I can to make sure he holds to that.  I’ve read on other boards that some think this raid was to prevent a call for unionization at this plant.  Don’t know if that’s true or not.</p>
<p>From post #71<br />
“Maybe in some places, illegal immigration is having a downward influence on wages, but I do not think that is the case everywhere and for all industries. My guess is that a lot of American employers hire illegals just so that they have warm bodies to fill positions.”</p>
<p>The meat packers used to pay upwards to $20 an hour.  Now it’s around 10.  That smacks of downward pressure on wages to me.  Now that ‘Big Ag’ is the owner of the meat packing plants, all that matters is the bottom line.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Fern</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444692</link>
		<dc:creator>Fern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444692</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Where I live, the agricultural and manufacturing sectors are two mainstays of the ecocomy. There is a lot of pork production and processing. Processors find if very, very difficult to find workers for production jobs, even when these are well-paid union jobs. They have to recruit overseas to get staff - using citizenship-track guest worker programs. And the workers do not stay. They have brought people in from China, Mexico, Ukraine, Poland - lots of places - and the companies still have staffing problems. Processing capacity is reduced, which in turn affects the producers. No way are most Canadian-born workers going to take these jobs in enough quantities to keep the industry running. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe in some places, illegal immigration is having a downward influence on wages, but I do not think that is the case everywhere and for all industries. My guess is that a lot of American employers hire illegals just so that they have warm bodies to fill positions.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where I live, the agricultural and manufacturing sectors are two mainstays of the ecocomy. There is a lot of pork production and processing. Processors find if very, very difficult to find workers for production jobs, even when these are well-paid union jobs. They have to recruit overseas to get staff &#8211; using citizenship-track guest worker programs. And the workers do not stay. They have brought people in from China, Mexico, Ukraine, Poland &#8211; lots of places &#8211; and the companies still have staffing problems. Processing capacity is reduced, which in turn affects the producers. No way are most Canadian-born workers going to take these jobs in enough quantities to keep the industry running. </p>
<p>Maybe in some places, illegal immigration is having a downward influence on wages, but I do not think that is the case everywhere and for all industries. My guess is that a lot of American employers hire illegals just so that they have warm bodies to fill positions.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: TeddySanFran</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444681</link>
		<dc:creator>TeddySanFran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444681</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Howie has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2008/05/immigration-reform-in-heartland.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;guest post&lt;/a&gt; from Ed Fallon, who is running for Congress against Leonard Boswell in Iowa, about Monday’s raid.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howie has a <a href="http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2008/05/immigration-reform-in-heartland.html" rel="nofollow">guest post</a> from Ed Fallon, who is running for Congress against Leonard Boswell in Iowa, about Monday’s raid.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: whitebeard</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444680</link>
		<dc:creator>whitebeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444680</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;It never ceases to amaze me when folks scream that the current Congress is not enforcing the law with regard to all the criminal acts of the Bush Administration, but scream that the immigration laws should not be enforced. You either support the rule of law or you don’t. You’re either a hypocrite or your not.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Amnesty is the solution to the corporate demand for cheaper and cheaper labor. The left supports rightwing ideals, too.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It never ceases to amaze me when folks scream that the current Congress is not enforcing the law with regard to all the criminal acts of the Bush Administration, but scream that the immigration laws should not be enforced. You either support the rule of law or you don’t. You’re either a hypocrite or your not.</p>
<p>Amnesty is the solution to the corporate demand for cheaper and cheaper labor. The left supports rightwing ideals, too.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Demosthenes</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444676</link>
		<dc:creator>Demosthenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444676</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;And the powers they represent, big business, want cheap illegal works. If you put in a way for people to work legally they could be paid more.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the powers they represent, big business, want cheap illegal works. If you put in a way for people to work legally they could be paid more.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Badwater</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444675</link>
		<dc:creator>Badwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444675</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Republics don’t really want to stop illegal immigration.  They really want to keep things as they are.  That way, it’s an issue they can use, election after election.  If that weren’t true, then they would have made big changes when they had total power.  They didn’t because it’s so easy to use illegal immigration to heat up their rabid base.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republics don’t really want to stop illegal immigration.  They really want to keep things as they are.  That way, it’s an issue they can use, election after election.  If that weren’t true, then they would have made big changes when they had total power.  They didn’t because it’s so easy to use illegal immigration to heat up their rabid base.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444674</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444674</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;tomorrow’s book salon author, tim shorrock is on terry gross’ fresh air program today……&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tomorrow’s book salon author, tim shorrock is on terry gross’ fresh air program today……</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Prairie Sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444672</link>
		<dc:creator>Prairie Sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/14/handling-immigrants-the-republican-way-like-cattle/#comment-1444672</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why does the Bush Administration’s ICE hate Jewish people? /s&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does the Bush Administration’s ICE hate Jewish people? /s</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Dynamic page generated in 0.215 seconds. -->
<!-- Cached page generated by WP-Super-Cache on 2012-02-17 14:12:45 -->

