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hey
Jus cogens!
Laura, it is so wonderful to have you here at FDL! Congratulations on your new station.
I have been saying for quite some time that this president came to office in a coup, he was never elected he was appointed by the legacy of his father and reagan sitting in black robes
they came to office in a silent bloodless silent coup, they overthrew our form of government, they abused our armed forces as if their lives were toys to exploit so they could pocket the treasure of the entire middle east and the assets the american middle class has amassed for generations
our government no longer resembles the america that existed before she was overthrown in this coup, her constitution has fallen and the will of our electorate has failed their sacred oath to remove these despots from office
I cannot believe after taking our government in this coup, and then amassing more power then in the history of planet earth, that these masongenists and bigots will be surrendering this power to a black man, a clinton and a democrat
I cannot believe they are leaving office willingly
I believe there will be the “catastrophe” that gives the president power to declare “martial law” and I believe elections will be suspended
does laura actually ansewr the in the comments section?
Cool!! FELA music for the show intro..)
Come on dude. (or dudette)
off topic just for fun;
sue simmons cursing on live tv
pretty funny
dudearooski, dudeatolla
ssometimes
gore, al
Kinda hard for us to comment on an hour long gig in an asynchronous environment.
Special comment on Bush giving up playing golf for the troops.
Say, there’s a link missing to an excellent film we took a clip from today
AFTERSHOCK: American Voices http://www.aftershockthemovie.com/
(the frontpage is flash, so buyer beware)
actually I just saw the first sign that I might be wrong about that raven;
check this out
I suppose she wouldn’t have sold those assets if she thought the campaign would not be happening
I don’t know. I’ve been at work when they come up…
Ms. Flanders, these programs are so excellent! You are a PERFECT host and I can’t tell you how wonderful it is to get some programming that is PRO sanity. The round table was a dream come true!
Things are changing, getting so much better. I’m getting good news daily, great media more and more often and I am MOST grateful.
Thank you!
I’m sorry, who is we?
Hey folks, yes, I read ! Fraid I’ve been a bit sporadic though, thus far, but I’m so gratified you like these shows.
Well, my “issue” is that this kind of worst-case scenario projection is sorta like the fearmongering we decry when THEY do it. Could it happen, I guess but damn. . .
The video and audio is still out of sync for me.
Speaking of Great TeeVee, Olbermann has a special comment. The topic is Kommander Guy giving up his putting on the greens. This is to show support for the troops.
It is a much better sacrifice than supporting a GI Bill for the troops. The troops who come home should also sacrifice. They do not need a taxpayer funded college education. A GI Bill for the soldiers is against neo-con idelogy.
IIRC from the other evening, LisaG is part of the GritTV crew putting together these shows for us.
working fine for me.
Yea cuz the won’t re-up if those GI Bill bennies are too good. Fuckers.
no it’s not raven, I am not fear monguering
knowledge is inncoculation, you and I both hope that I am wrong but if there is “a catastrophe” we will all know what is going on
hope and expect the best, be prepared for the worst
someone said that downstairs and it sticks very niceley in my head
Wow… Brian Williams on Olbermann just asked Hillary if she is waiting on an act of God…
Omg
that was SUCH
I have to say, thinking about economics today for the show, I was particularly ready to hear John Edwards speak today. And I’m glad he’s endorsed Obama. He’s been on the fence long enough. But…
All that having been said, he’s speech infuriated me. To use the wall metaphor, over and over and over: “This election is about taking down walls”. And no thought to…. HOW MIGHT THIS SOUND IN IRAQ? How might this sound to the people looking at a wall being built on their ranch in Texas, in their town in Arizona? I dunno. I just thought he’d be careful to be more conscious. if you’re going to talk about how dreadful the walls are that divide us, you’ve got to at least acknowledge that the US is busy building walls to divide…. Would a sentence like “Walls — like the walls we’re building on the border or in Baghdad — are not the answer to our political and economic problems…”
And I have one more beef….
“No matter who your parents are and no matter the color of your skin…”
What about no matter what your gender is….
Enuf from me.
I’ll comment more tomorrow.
Getting into many swings this week.
fair enough
Sorry, evidently it’s on tape, not live.
*we* is the hard-working crew producing today’s show, my dear
SORRY, hit the wrong key
selise, that was SUCH an astute and correct response!
i’m so continually amazed at the caliber of participants here!
Yea, they showed it on Tweety too.
my machine is fairly lowend. I think the linux flash player isn’t quite up to speed with windows/mac.
Cool, thanks.
connectivity could be an issue too huh?
yes, what you are seeing a compressed file
and we are workshoping the various ways of getting you a better quality image online
IN the meantime, we are satellite-cast on FreeSpeechTV – if you have DISH or some other outlet that carries their programming you can also see us there.
Try the quicktime link
what you are seeing IS a compressed file
please tell me that nobody is going to jump on my poor syntax and typos around here . . .
Should be able to let it load with QT, no?
“The topic is Kommander Guy giving up his putting on the greens. This is to show support for the troops.”
I’m waiting for him to say, “Let them eat cake!”
Y’know, just wanting to be generous and all.
Bob in HI
The Norske Falmethrower might! :)
And on the question of presidential powers — look at the segment –it’s not the Bushes we’re talking about — it’s the next occupant of the White House — are we confident that person will gladly give up the powers accrued to the executive under this administration? The panel were pretty hopeful. I’m skeptical. Pledging to “shut down Guantanamo ” isn’t enough. I think we’re going to have to push. Anthony Romero said this election is about putting the presidency “back in the box” . Anyone know anyone now on the trail who wants to be boxed in? Jes concerned, that’s all.
FINALLY!
some words to scare these despots into following our law, one of my favs, conyers speaks;
OT
Olbermann has a Special Comment on Tipsy McSilverspoon’s big sacrifice giving up golf! Should be another good’un.
Nice topic, Laura and Lisa
More Anthony Romero, Vincent Warren and David Golove, please
that format works
yes – and thanks for putting up the link
roger, you thought of a podcast?
And the file on BLIP TV (the full show) is fine. http://grittv.blip.tv/#913794
Also, if ou want more information on all the guests etc. Don’t hesitate to check out my website — Lauraflanders.com . And SIGN UP THERE for future updates. I’d love to be able to be in touch with you.
I’ll check back in later.
this is a great point laura but “willingly giving up power” doesn’t do anything at all
the power has to be taken by our legislators otherwise the power can be reclaimed
whoever takes office can’t simply rebuke the power, the power has to be removed
nothing else matters
Not to mention, how might this sound to Palestinians on the West Bank, who have to figure out new ways to get around Israel’s “defense” wall that cuts off access to homes, farms, and communities on the West Bank?
Bob in HI
That is the layout I like. It is in sync for me too.
I’ll start using the link at the bottom of the post.
I believe this can happen with only one method, charges must be preferred
the president has claimed the right of eminent rule, if he says it, it is so
if there is a law that says;
“the executive may not condone torture”
the president believes he can sign this bill and make the following statement;
” I agree with this law except when I think it is necessary to torture, then I am not bound by this law”
and so far those signing statements stand
this power cannot be relinquished willingly by a president, they must be removed by the legislator with punitive action as well
otherwise relinquishing power does nothing but put that power in the bank to be used whenever they want
Laura, you are so right! Thanks for pushing this question. And this is one reason why I decided not to support Hillary Clinton. Of the field of early candidates, she was not the foremost in defending the Constitution.
Bob in HI
Electing a Dem will cause another attack. . .fearmongering?
Raven, google or wiki ‘NPSD-51′ and then consider how improbable perris worries are…!
That was my initial thought about her message too, bob. Plus I had a very unsettling feeling that she would be one who wouldn’t really turn her back on all those powers, which made me wonder in an anxious manner about her VP choice, and what THAT would be like.
And that issue is a HUGE reason why I would not like to see her as VP. Bottom line, I just never felt I could trust her, with her lobbyist connections which she defended at Yearly Kos!
She STILL makes me nervous.
I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK! And I want Her back now!!!
podcast, si se puede
it’s on the TO DO list
we have the full shows on Blip, which makes an automated version
but we know there’s more to do . . .
lol
Aloha, Bob! How’s your honeymoon plans coming along…? ;-0
Chimpy McFlightsuit also today said in an interview with Politico that “American’s don’t torture”. this, after he admitted that he’d OK’d the whole program. Why does this remind me of that scene from “Ghostbusters” where Bill Murray asks which personality he’s talking to?
Of course not, Lisa. (See one of our heroines, Looseheadprop!)
SO RIGHT — about Palestinians. In Northern Ireland, where I started reporting, the British called the walls the Peace Wall. Irony abounds.
KO has a Special Comment up coming…! 8-)
It’s not ONLY the president, but he has somehow managed to get a whole slew of faithful to do his bidding. But then again W was only a front many for the Junta here. He’s way to dumb to pull off what these folks did. They took America, commandeered the military to fight for them, got congress to fork over half a trillion to corporations FOR the war, lawyers to trash the constitution and the media to sell fear and keep america distracted while they got a screwed.
I don’t think the next crew will have such a broad and focused agenda and will fail unless they push very radical changes through and the corporations will push back hard and play dirty. Head will roll, blood will flow.
Don’t forget to Digg this post…
I hafta believe that Barack, being a constitutional expert, respects it. That question should be asked in the general election debates.
It could happen. Heimat Land Security must check if Prince Bandar is financing more terrorism. Especially, the “western” Al Qaeda need to be investigated. The Allbriton’s, owners of Politco.com, are among the those sneaky of those. These pretend neo-cons may be financing a new terror plot just as they financed 9-11.
Sorry, the fact that there is some order or another doesn’t make it anymore likely or unlikely as far as I am concerned.
Now the same tragic methods are being utilized in Sadr City…! We never seem to learn, eh?
there are other special orders as well as 51`
Fair enough! I still see it as very real possibility…!
And the interstates are engineered to take tanks. . .boogie boogie
True, that one is the one that really gives me the willies…
More on the Mrs. Cindy McCain FRONT…
I had to go back and read the masthead again on this one…stiil almost can’t believe it! Did some FDL’er hack into the Moony-Toons?
Bad times indeed for the Republican brand when the top print Propaganda Daily turns against you!
I LOVE KO!!!!
There’s a50-50 chance that the election will not take place. The October surprise can change everything. It’s all in place to drop the fig leak we call American democracy. The interment camps are ready for you dissidents and they have their lists already as they have been eavesdropping on us for 7 years. Who know what this place will look like a year from now.
And don’t forget we are may possibly entering a recession too. Yanno pocket book issues. We need responsible republicans in DC.
Yes, and many of Obama’s own writings confirm this. I have little doubt that he would roll back executive excess. However, at the same time, I recognize the simple fact that power tends to aggrandize itself, even when left in the most restrained and salutary hands.
Can’t be serious.
I’ve got an errand to run! Aloha, Laura! Another awesome job! 8-)
Trying to find an editorial cartoon on that subject I saw a few months ago … think it was by Tom Toles
The bit about the recession is tongue in cheek, we have corporations dropping like flies, Circuit City, CompUSA, and a few other big boxes… banks are trying to put on a good face but they are insolvent for all intent.
Yea I was serious about an October surprise. Last time it was September… If they did September 11 again people would be so spooked they would drop to their knees and pray to bomb bomb bomb Iran.. and forget about the election.
Why hasn’t the people’s representatives impeached with such an obvious outcry against this lot as show in every special election, primary election and public opinion survey. Who they protecting over there?
Washington Times Tells Cindy McCain DISCLOSE THOSE TAX FORMS
I love KO too!
Olbermann to Bush: “Shut. The. Hell. Up.”
that was just awesome
Bush lies. Keith nails him on his lame ass golfing story.
Bush, what a warped child.
-G
Olbermann cuts Chimpy McClusterfuck a brand, new shiny asshole.
How can you cut a walking rectum a new asshole? I donno but KO did it.
We’re planning a “pre-honeymoon” on Kauai over Memorial Day Weekend. Maybe Big Island for the Real Deal.
Aloha,
Bob in HI
Wasn’t Toles, it was another favorite, Mike Luckovich
http://www.truthdig.com/images….._ep500.jpg
Excellent!
When you’ve lost the Moonie Times…
Congrats!
:)
I’m outta here
better go to my happy home while I still have one . . .
Hey, congratulations to you and the future bride, Bob! (And please, fill me in on Paraguay!)
Thanks LisaG!
There isn’t any such thing as a “responsible republican.”
I’d go a lot farther but the board would reject the post so I’ll just say, I drink expensive liquor whenever I read the obituary of ANY republican.
Why in heck would the Clinton campaign want to send Chelsea to campaign on Veiques Island, Puerto Rico?
This seems like the most ill-starred attempt to “kiss-and-make-up” that was contrived by a Campaign. Talk about having your kid take the heat for one’s own errors!
http://www.vieques-island.com/navy/clinton.html ">Bill Clinton Tells Navy To Keep Staging Operations on Vieques, Tells PR Navy Will Stop In 5 Years
http://www.latinamericanstudie…..ieques.htm">Hillary Clinton’s Campaign in NY Problem For PR Residents over Vieques
Here you go:
Paraguay’s Historic but Not Radical Change
Bob in HI
That’s what I thought when I first heard it.I love Fela.
It’s actually a woman named Wummi (I think that’s the name of her band as well) She was on Laura’s radio show a couple years ago.
Right. GOODNIGHT!
Apologies to others for O/T
tw3k @ 95 and Loo Hoo @ 97–
Thanks. Visit to families on the mainland next month.
Aloha,
Bob in HI
Kirk has Farm Bill post
Good night and thanks!
My links are really going haywire c’est soir
Bill Clinton On Vieques Island Navy Training
Vieques Issue For Hillary Clinton Campaign
Hi cinnamonape
How are classes going?
Hey John…Finals week coming up. Grading lotsa papers…and getting ready to go into the field at the end of the month. Just another day in the shared part-time facilty office ;-)