Zed?

Hi … love Copeland! and thx for hanging in here

I’d like to second that zed.

Jus cogens!

How to kick John McCain’s butt? Get the truth out. Keep the pressure on MSM. All of us do the ‘each one reach one’ thing everywhere we go. And keep reminding everyone that McCain is just Bush 2.0.

Childers [Democrat] wins in Mississippi

and I’m working hard for Mary Landrieu … she’s not perfect but I want a progressive majority in the senate to protect SCOTUS

EPU’d a couple of times…

I am, I admit, a political junkie. On primary and caucus nights from Iowa onward, I have watched the cable news coverage (mostly MSNBC) until it goes off the air, bemoaning the tone and the lack of substance of much of the punditry but unable to stay away.

Tonight, however, as I was leaving the Kwik Shop where I stopped to pick up a gallon of milk around 7:30 p.m. CDT, a newspaper headline caught my eye and I suddenly remembered that tonight was a primary night. West Virginia. I had completely forgotten about it.

I wonder what that means.

CNN: WV too close to call! Still waiting for returns from Lake County! Blitzer’s pissed!

wow
just
wow

MSNBC calls MS-01 for Democrat Childers.

Bang, pow.

Can we get Dark Side Dick Cheney to campaign for some more Democratic wins?

Please?

-G

gosh, i’m trying to remember the new show that used to use that theme when i was a kid … was it biography?

Christy - what are your theories on why Clinton has done so well tonight? Because I have to admit I’m a little shocked.

Huckabee wondered whether Obama might represent change that people “aren’t ready for.”

What kind of change might that be… oh! That he’s so young!

Digg this post!

i just sent more money to clinton .. wanna ask me?

Needs more cowbell.

When the dust settles, I want to give a shout-out for ND’s beloved Senator Dorgan, doing the work of the Senate while the media spotlight is focused elsewhere.

Thinkprogress has a bit up about a hearing on how beautiful BushCo has abandoned a man who risked his life in Iraq investigating corruption, former CPI commissioner Judge Radhi al-Radhi. He’s now a man without a country and without support from the U.S. government, for whom he worked.

Bush and his cronies are men without honor.

well, personally, I’m looking for some one who talks specifics and not generalities… i decide based on debates for the most part and I watch the electoral maps

Anyone watching MSNBC? Childers wins (OMG) and I’ve never seen Timmy look so disturbed. They usually yuk it up after the results. They’re talking about Miss 1 and they’re all so somber.

Thanks Neuro.
Dugg!

subway diet

I didn’t follow the coverage tonight. Went to a baseball game and just got back. Unbelievable: we left early because we were cold–Florida in May!

Childers

How was the music fest?

I read there was lots of rain the first few days, but I hope people dropped lots o’ cash over the two weeks.

Because she campaigned her ass off here, and Bill Clinton was really loved here a lot. She played to the homespun, religious, rural voters with a lot of respect and care in her appearances — genuine respect and care, from everything I saw and heard. And people loved it.

Obama barely campaigned here. It was as if WV didn’t exist until the last minute when he did a stop on Monday in Charleston. He had done two other drop-in speeches that I know of, but no retail politics at all. As in no door-to-door, town hall meeting type voter outreach. And that arms-length style is exactly what kicked Gore and Kerry’s asses here the last two election cycles.

Which, btw, I told several Obama people a while back. Voters here don’t feel like they know Obama at all — they at least got to know Clinton through her first lady years and again through her steady campaigning here for weeks. Plus, she had the bulk of the party leadership here in her corner early on — and they are all very loyal, very hard-working folks in terms of GOTV. Obama came off as uninterested in WV — and the vote shows exactly what folks in WV think about that. And I say that as someone who cast her vote for Obama today.

Obama has more money, votes, states this race is so over.

Yeah, it was the highest #s since prekatrina … i was really glad to see folks come into town… we so need the tax dollars

Well, I know you did not go to the Tampa Bay Rays game, they play indoors!

Wow, this cross-posting can confuse a fellow! It’s nice, but sometimes I can’t find you guys.

Sweet about Childers. I wonder what Boehner and Cole are drinking tonight. I hope it’s bitter.

I am reading Senator Levin’s address yesterday to Congress about the oil crisis we are in. Want to get people to the polls this fall? Take the amount of money we have borrowed for the war, divide it between the 330 million citizens and ask them to pay off the debt for this war. Give the specific number each individual owes and ask the American people to pay the bill. Some thing this drastic may be what it takes to beat McCain, the 100 year war monger. I know this sounds crazy, but putting ridiculous bills on the ballot is what the GOP does to get there voters out on election day.

Just seven years ago, at the end of the Clinton Administration, energy supplies were plentiful, and gasoline and other forms of energy were affordable. Once the Bush Administration took office, however, it didn’t take them long to eliminate the budget surplus by cutting taxes mainly for the wealthiest among us, creating a huge annual budget deficit, and driving up the national debt. This fiscal mismanagement has contributed significantly to a steep decline in the value of the dollar and soaring commodity prices. Because American currency is worth less, it takes more of them to buy the same barrel of oil. American consumers and businesses are forced to spend more and more of their hard-earned dollars to buy the same amount of energy. During the last years of the Clinton Administration, the U.S. ran a budget surplus, totaling nearly $560 billion. But over the past six years of the Bush Administration the annual deficits have totaled nearly $1.7 trillion, not counting the amount by which the Bush Administration has been draining the Social Security and Medicare trust funds. When this is counted, under this Administration the total outstanding debt has increased by a whopping $3.2 trillion.

When President Clinton left office, the dollar was worth more than the euro. In January 2001, it took only about 90 cents to buy one euro. Today, it takes about $1.60 to buy one euro — a record low for the dollar. The fall in the value of the dollar is a result of a weakened U.S. economy, a high trade deficit and a world-wide lack of confidence in the Bush Administration’s ability to manage our nation’s economy and foreign policy. As long as this Administration continues to insist on irresponsible fiscal practices – including tax cuts for people with the highest income and an open-ended conflict in Iraq that is costing $12 billion a month – the dollar will likely continue to decline in value. The marketplace has rendered a clear “no confidence” in this Administration’s fiscal competence.

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Much of this increase in trading of futures has been due to speculation. Speculators in the oil market do not intend to use crude oil; instead they buy and sell contracts for crude oil just to make a profit from the changing prices. Many speculators simply buy and hold whole baskets of commodities including energy commodities, just like other speculators hold a variety of stocks in a mutual fund, in the expectation that prices will continue to rise. The number of futures and options contracts held by speculators has gone from around 100,000 contracts in 2001, which was 20% of the total number of outstanding contracts, to 1.2 million contracts currently held by speculators, which represents almost 40% of the outstanding futures and options contracts in oil on NYMEX [Chart 2].

There is now 12 times as many speculative holdings as there was in 2001, while holdings of non-speculative futures and options is up but 3 times. [Chart 3].

Not surprisingly, this massive speculation that the price of oil will increase has, in fact, helped increase the price of oil to a level far above the price that is justified by the traditional forces of supply and demand. This next chart shows how the price of oil futures on the NYMEX has skyrocketed in recent years. [Chart 4].

The President and CEO of Marathon Oil recently said, “$100 oil isn’t justified by the physical demand in the market. It has to be speculation on the futures market that is fueling this.” Mr. Fadel Gheit, oil analyst for Oppenheimer and Company describes the oil market as “a farce.” “The speculators have seized control and it’s basically a free-for-all, a global gambling hall, and it won’t shut down unless and until responsible governments step in.” In January of this year, as oil hit $100 barrel, Mr. Tim Evans, oil analyst for Citigroup, wrote “the larger supply and demand fundamentals do not support a further rise and are, in fact, more consistent with lower price levels.” At the joint hearing on the effects of speculation we held last December, Dr. Edward Krapels, a financial market analyst, testified, “Of course financial trading, speculation affects the price of oil because it affects the price of everything we trade. . . It would be amazing if oil somehow escaped this effect.” Dr. Krapels added that as a result of this speculation, “There is a bubble in oil prices.”

A fair price for a commodity is a price that accurately reflects the forces of supply and demand for the commodity, not the trading strategies of speculators who only are in the market to make a profit by the buying and selling of paper contracts with no intent to actually purchase, deliver, or transfer the commodity. As we have all too often seen in recent years, when speculation grows so large that it has a major impact on the market, prices get distorted and stop reflecting true supply and demand.

http://www.carllevin.com/news/.....ne-prices/

Breaking News:

John Boehner is weeping like a 9 year old watching Charlotte’s Web.

-G

So we just won three? special election house races in very red districts now I want to hear fron Nancy on how she does not have the support from the American people or in the House to end the war now.
We the people just did our job we elected more Democrats now its Nancy’s tern to get to work.

Bush and his cronies are men without honor.

Noooo! Really?

College ball. Gators 12 USF 2.

Ooops — forgot to mention that the e-mail spam crap about Obama has not been helpful, either. I cannot tell you how many conversations I’ve had with people who believe that crap. Canvassing is going to be a bitch and a half here…

I wonder if the site admins would add the scroll attribute to blockquote element.

Timmeh is realizing the Gooper gravy train is ending… *gasp* He might have to actually do his job…! ;-)

I saw a list earlier today with election results to this point. Obama has won approx 15 contests with 60% or more. Until tonight, Clinton won one - Arkansas, which she won with 70%. Of those 15 for Obama, 3-4 were over 70%. Several of these 15 were states made up of mostly “white working class” voters like Idaho and Kansas.

Tonight means it’s now 15-Obama, 2-Clinton on states won over with 60%. Superdelegates will likely continue flowing to Obama with the possibility of making up Hillary’s delegate gain tonight in the next day or two. Obama gained around 5 supers today, including another Clinton defector, even though they all knew tonight would be like this.

All tonight means is that we won’t win WV in the General, and we don’t need to. Onward and Upward!

Your candor appreciated, Christy. I saw the flip side of the situation here in ND. Obama came to the state Dem convention a clear fave and yet Hillary came on short notice just a couple hours behind. There’s a lesson there he needs yet to learn…or put into practice. Optics matter.

I’m thinkin’ a 50 states in 50 days strategy for after the August convention.

I can tell you because I have to watch this stuff as part of my job; natural gas is being played like this also, so any utility that is buying natural gas to produce electricity is going to pass on some major costs to customers this summer when it gets hot.

Woo-hoo!

The MSM will play Hillary as the comeback kid b/c of this WV win. The primary marathon gives them cover to keep any heat off McCain.

I have to change the channel when he comes on … I can’t take it …

You mean to tell me Obama doesn’t pray to the Qur’an every morning while wearing a Cuban-flag lapel pin and reciting the Pledge of Allegiance backwards in Satanic rites?

When bringing in text from outside, please confine excerpts to just a couple of paragraphs. And links are encouraged. Easier on the servers.
Thanks.

You live in the same sort of small state environment that I do, so you understand what I’m saying with the retail politics making a huge difference. Voters know when they’ve been disrespected. WV voters tend to be very Democratic on economic issues — but they won’t vote for a Dem if they feel taken for granted or dissed. And that’s exactly how both Gore and Kerry treated WV — as unimportant and taken for granted.

The Edwards’ understood the error and were loved for it. It’s likely one of the big reasons he’s still getting so many votes here 4 months after he dropped out of the race, too.

They aren’t playing it that way at all on either MSNBC or CNN, though. It’s all about the number crunching for them at this point, although they are salivating over continuing face time if things continue anyway…

Consider yourself asked!

Heh, heh. Here’s why turnout will be a record in November.

You do realize that these three special election victories say to Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer and Rahm Emanuel that they are doing exactly the right thing, don’t you? Please don’t try to give the American people credit for these three victories — they belong to Nancy, specifically for taking impeachment off the table.

Do not try to convince DeeCee Democrats of anything different.

Brownsox sums it up beautifully…

The NRCC spent over $1.3 million in this race, and that’s not counting what shadow groups like Freedom’s Watch put in. It’s an R+10 district. They ran some ads which were nasty as hell. And their candidate, if not outstanding, was not especially controversial.

We beat them anyway, on their turf.

Background article on the Mississippi Democratic victory for Congress. Very, very red district. BOOYAH!!

The number of futures and options contracts held by speculators has gone from around 100,000 contracts in 2001, which was 20% of the total number of outstanding contracts, to 1.2 million contracts currently held by speculators, which represents almost 40% of the outstanding futures and options contracts in oil on NYMEX [Chart 2].

That much speculation in oil futures? I know I complain the price of gas is going up but this sound like a bubble if the bubble burst before the election McCain might get credit the sooner it burst the better for him because people need to refill their bank accounts.
But if the bubble burst when Obama is President then George will have given Obama and us credit WooHoo!

No attention to background or performance? huh?!

I assume you’re doing what you think will work for you. How’s it goin’ so far? Who’d you vote for last time? How’d that work out for ya? How’s it gonna work out for your kids, your neighbors, the future of anybody or everybody you care about? that stranger half-way around the world grinding out your t-shirts at $1 a week?

Republican-flavored trivia from NPR: No democrat has won the presidency since 1916 (IIRC)without having won WV.

MSNBC called it for Childers…and I can see why. The outstanding counties all went for Childers in the earlier election by margins of between 58% and 85%) except for Tate where he lost with 33%. But the other counties outweigh Tate’s votes by 2:1…so it won’t effect things.

Childers wins in Mississippi! Whoohooooo!

Thanks, Christy. Makes sense to me.

Yes, and given folks like Margolis on Obama’s campaign team, this is a lapse I just don’t get.

You know, she was being honest about her opinion. No need to get testy at her for it, eh?

I can hear thousands of heads exploding in Washington and New York. Let the scurrying of the filthy little cockroaches begin.

Your Right Damm Koolaid !

great link, egreg — the GOP is running through their money pretty quickly..with nothing to show for it.

They are just so smart…as a mere peon I would never presume to question their judgment.

We may elect a single-payer health care Democratic Congress no matter which Democrat wins the White House. People are pissed.

Mississippi pissed.

Wow.

I wonder how many supers Obama will get tomorrow. And how much the warchest has grown.

Here’s a good example — Obama and Clinton were both in DC today to vote in the Senate. Clinton came back here to campaign. Obama was spotted later on Capitol Hill in his workout clothes — CNN just showed the footage again.

Any WV voters who saw that footage today would know exactly how important votes here were to him, since he was hitting a treadmill in DC rather than doing anything here. And that footage isn’t just going to WV, it’s going nationwide…and that sort of thing resonates in OH and PA just as much as it does here. And he needs at least one if not both of those states to take the general.

KO can’t seem to do the math- keeps saying that Hillary has ALMOST reached the two for one ratio when she’s way PAST that..Come on KO–THINK!

14 times he’s used the aids used my homework excuse. 3 times he’s said one thing and his university of chicago advisors have told folks what he’s just saying is rhetoric. i judge folks based on debates, i hear only generalities from him … his website may tell me about his platform but if he can’t talk about policy in a debate, i don’t know if he’s connected with what’s on the webpage, he’s spent more time running for president than voting on the senate floor and showing us what he actually DOES stand for, he’s smarmy — i’ve watched him pat Hillary, tell her she’s likeable enough, and i’ve worked enough in an old white guys world as an economist to recognize a patronzing a$$ when I see the tactics, after katrina, he came and gave the graduation speech for Dillard University, Hillary came down with Mary Landrieu and went back to work on Wetlands Restoration and 100 year levies, voting present continually on abortion rights, etc. in the IL legislature shows nothing to me …and finally TERRY SCHIAVO! plus, i’ve lived my life in swing states, and he has NO chance of winning … i think he’s another Dukkakis …

Go Gators!

I’m sure they’ll add several on to the total tomorrow. They’ve been spacing them out all week to diffuse the WV primary numbers and have done a good job of it.

I voted for kerry knowing full well he’d loose… same way I voted for Dukkakis … knowing i was on the right team, but the loosing team

optics matter…yes, they do.
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I love the Tuesdays, and the politics, boom de ya da, boom de ya da…

The GOP ran the same Pelosi-Obama-Wright-bitter-flagpin-patriotism ads in Mississippi that didn’t work in Hastert’s district or in Alabama last week.

We may be witnessing the end of the Karl Rove playbook, written by Richard Nixon’s minions.

This is a real map-changing election, folks. I’m thinking 1932 or 1964.

And the polls won’t show it, at all. And the pundits clearly aren’t smelling it until it smacks them in the face.

it looks like he was hiding from W VA. ….

Obama has won this thing- but he better learn something from today- these are shitty numbers. He needs to find a way of reaching older less educated people who put a lot of store in symbolism and simple basic talk.

Well, it certainly looked as if he didn’t feel it was worth it to him to go and work for the votes.

Are any of the pundits talking about Mississippi? Much more important than this primary.

Thanks for sharing your vote with us, Christy.

I am still proud to have voted early for Edwards. But I don’t think I will vote so early ever again.

Exactly! I will repeat a previous post: 2008=1932, Obama=FDR, HRC=Al Smith, McCain=Herbert Hoover.

Flip Side Questions: Has any Republican won the Presidency without winning West Virginia? Has any Democrat lost the electiopn and won West Viginia?

They way this is stated implies that if you win West Virginia you can forget the rest of the country. Other states may have the same, or better, predictability values.

No melalin-enhanced man with a strange name with an atheist mother and an Muslim father from Africa who he hardly knew that grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia and raised several years by his melalin-deficient grandparents in an apartment complex where his grandma still lives to this day has ever been the DemocratIC nominee for President, and likely frontrunner to win the Presidency in Nov. At least I can’t remember that ever happening before.

I agree..I think people have gotten beyond tired of it all..I think they are now supremely ticked off.

You asked a very knowledgeable question about the Palm Bay fires hope everything is good for you and your family/friends.

For the rest of the country, Palm Bay, Florida, lost about 60 homes due to wildfires.

At the joint hearing on the effects of speculation we held last December, Dr. Edward Krapels, a financial market analyst, testified, “Of course financial trading, speculation affects the price of oil because it affects the price of everything we trade.

So WTF is Congress waiting on?

$6 a gallon? They knew in December this BS was going on, and now, in May we get a strongly worded letter.

I voted at my Florida precinct for Edwards the day before he dropped out.

Yes Chuck Todd is talking about the Mississippi victory. “The Republican brand is soft”

So right. So much of this palaver about the usual metrics is becoming anachronistic before our very eyes.

Heh, The bigger they are, the harder they fall…! Maybe then the news bureaus might actually consider hiring real journalists and retire the gas bags already! I know, I’m merely dreaming…

attytood! That should carry the day, or most of one, anyway. I hope you don’t count on write-in votes, without carrying a dictionary.

And I’d watch the sharp corners, with that built-in chip on yer shoulder.

Sorry. Not buying whatever you’re selling today. Bile’s bitter, waste. Best dumpt in the proper receptacle.

I said this in the last thread. Three strikes for the GOP. Didn’t they recently lose two special elections in states they’ve held for decades. “It’s a hard rain gonna fall…”

I’m sorry, but Hillary’s tenacity is amazing … she is WORKING and FIGHTING for every vote and I think that says something … and I’ve sent her MORE money than I have sent any other candidate — My republican to the death dad is considering switching parties to vote for her, so they can yell at me all they want … I don’t go for action

Boy, Karl Rove sure was a genius wasn’t he.

He has worked so hard for us down here in New Orleans … he’s a great guy

Soft

Flaccid

Limp

Impotent

Unable to deliver

These terms, and others like it, are how we should describe the GOP brand.

There are very few people with actual political wisdom on the tube- and those who DO have political wisdom are generally partisan.

Sorry if you’ve already answered this - but you will vote for Obama in the general nevertheless when he is the nominee?

We are a very old state — we have a lot of elderly, retired folks. And he absolutely has work to do with them…if the folks with whom I’ve spoken are any indicator anyway, including a LOT of the party regulars, which scares me a bit.

wow.

Not to mention “wide stanced”

Folks, let’s please not insult each other in here.
Thanks.

If you are looking to pick a fight, your comment just might do the job.

the key to the world is the senate and a veto proof majority … none of that right wing religious BS will fly … SCOTUS will be safe, we’ll regain the bill of rights and privacy …none of this stupid gay baiting crap on the senate floor .. no more terry schiavo … no more attacking women’s health

The goober running against Childers in MS-01 tried the Obama isn’t one of us crap in a Republican district and got himself crushed.

I spent some serious time this morning staring at Edwards name on our ballot, I have to say. I left my presidential vote until the last thing, and still I sat there looking at my ballot. I really feel like both Obama and Clinton are very, very similar on a large number of issues. I said this earlier today, but it came down to their foreign policy teams in my mind as the deciding factor.

But Edwards was still the candidate that had both my heart and my gut. It was tough not to fill in that bubble, I have to say…

i’ll just say he has a LOT of work to do with me , right at this moment, if it were held this month, I’d stay home … my vote will be meaningless in this purple state

Thanks for asking. We are ok. Beachside Daytona. Should be safe from fires. Hurricanes - differnt story. Glad you are ok.

Yes, it appears that his brand of rhetoric (which is very impressive to many) isn’t coming in on the right frequency to reach some important people.