Zed?

Hi … love Copeland! and thx for hanging in here

I’d like to second that zed.

Jus cogens!

How to kick John McCain’s butt? Get the truth out. Keep the pressure on MSM. All of us do the ‘each one reach one’ thing everywhere we go. And keep reminding everyone that McCain is just Bush 2.0.

Childers [Democrat] wins in Mississippi

and I’m working hard for Mary Landrieu … she’s not perfect but I want a progressive majority in the senate to protect SCOTUS

EPU’d a couple of times…

I am, I admit, a political junkie. On primary and caucus nights from Iowa onward, I have watched the cable news coverage (mostly MSNBC) until it goes off the air, bemoaning the tone and the lack of substance of much of the punditry but unable to stay away.

Tonight, however, as I was leaving the Kwik Shop where I stopped to pick up a gallon of milk around 7:30 p.m. CDT, a newspaper headline caught my eye and I suddenly remembered that tonight was a primary night. West Virginia. I had completely forgotten about it.

I wonder what that means.

CNN: WV too close to call! Still waiting for returns from Lake County! Blitzer’s pissed!

wow
just
wow

MSNBC calls MS-01 for Democrat Childers.

Bang, pow.

Can we get Dark Side Dick Cheney to campaign for some more Democratic wins?

Please?

-G

gosh, i’m trying to remember the new show that used to use that theme when i was a kid … was it biography?

Christy – what are your theories on why Clinton has done so well tonight? Because I have to admit I’m a little shocked.

Huckabee wondered whether Obama might represent change that people “aren’t ready for.”

What kind of change might that be… oh! That he’s so young!

Digg this post!

i just sent more money to clinton .. wanna ask me?

Needs more cowbell.

When the dust settles, I want to give a shout-out for ND’s beloved Senator Dorgan, doing the work of the Senate while the media spotlight is focused elsewhere.

Thinkprogress has a bit up about a hearing on how beautiful BushCo has abandoned a man who risked his life in Iraq investigating corruption, former CPI commissioner Judge Radhi al-Radhi. He’s now a man without a country and without support from the U.S. government, for whom he worked.

Bush and his cronies are men without honor.

well, personally, I’m looking for some one who talks specifics and not generalities… i decide based on debates for the most part and I watch the electoral maps

Anyone watching MSNBC? Childers wins (OMG) and I’ve never seen Timmy look so disturbed. They usually yuk it up after the results. They’re talking about Miss 1 and they’re all so somber.

Thanks Neuro.
Dugg!

subway diet

I didn’t follow the coverage tonight. Went to a baseball game and just got back. Unbelievable: we left early because we were cold–Florida in May!

Childers

How was the music fest?

I read there was lots of rain the first few days, but I hope people dropped lots o’ cash over the two weeks.

Because she campaigned her ass off here, and Bill Clinton was really loved here a lot. She played to the homespun, religious, rural voters with a lot of respect and care in her appearances — genuine respect and care, from everything I saw and heard. And people loved it.

Obama barely campaigned here. It was as if WV didn’t exist until the last minute when he did a stop on Monday in Charleston. He had done two other drop-in speeches that I know of, but no retail politics at all. As in no door-to-door, town hall meeting type voter outreach. And that arms-length style is exactly what kicked Gore and Kerry’s asses here the last two election cycles.

Which, btw, I told several Obama people a while back. Voters here don’t feel like they know Obama at all — they at least got to know Clinton through her first lady years and again through her steady campaigning here for weeks. Plus, she had the bulk of the party leadership here in her corner early on — and they are all very loyal, very hard-working folks in terms of GOTV. Obama came off as uninterested in WV — and the vote shows exactly what folks in WV think about that. And I say that as someone who cast her vote for Obama today.

Obama has more money, votes, states this race is so over.

Yeah, it was the highest #s since prekatrina … i was really glad to see folks come into town… we so need the tax dollars

Well, I know you did not go to the Tampa Bay Rays game, they play indoors!

Wow, this cross-posting can confuse a fellow! It’s nice, but sometimes I can’t find you guys.

Sweet about Childers. I wonder what Boehner and Cole are drinking tonight. I hope it’s bitter.

I am reading Senator Levin’s address yesterday to Congress about the oil crisis we are in. Want to get people to the polls this fall? Take the amount of money we have borrowed for the war, divide it between the 330 million citizens and ask them to pay off the debt for this war. Give the specific number each individual owes and ask the American people to pay the bill. Some thing this drastic may be what it takes to beat McCain, the 100 year war monger. I know this sounds crazy, but putting ridiculous bills on the ballot is what the GOP does to get there voters out on election day.

Just seven years ago, at the end of the Clinton Administration, energy supplies were plentiful, and gasoline and other forms of energy were affordable. Once the Bush Administration took office, however, it didn’t take them long to eliminate the budget surplus by cutting taxes mainly for the wealthiest among us, creating a huge annual budget deficit, and driving up the national debt. This fiscal mismanagement has contributed significantly to a steep decline in the value of the dollar and soaring commodity prices. Because American currency is worth less, it takes more of them to buy the same barrel of oil. American consumers and businesses are forced to spend more and more of their hard-earned dollars to buy the same amount of energy. During the last years of the Clinton Administration, the U.S. ran a budget surplus, totaling nearly $560 billion. But over the past six years of the Bush Administration the annual deficits have totaled nearly $1.7 trillion, not counting the amount by which the Bush Administration has been draining the Social Security and Medicare trust funds. When this is counted, under this Administration the total outstanding debt has increased by a whopping $3.2 trillion.

When President Clinton left office, the dollar was worth more than the euro. In January 2001, it took only about 90 cents to buy one euro. Today, it takes about $1.60 to buy one euro — a record low for the dollar. The fall in the value of the dollar is a result of a weakened U.S. economy, a high trade deficit and a world-wide lack of confidence in the Bush Administration’s ability to manage our nation’s economy and foreign policy. As long as this Administration continues to insist on irresponsible fiscal practices – including tax cuts for people with the highest income and an open-ended conflict in Iraq that is costing $12 billion a month – the dollar will likely continue to decline in value. The marketplace has rendered a clear “no confidence” in this Administration’s fiscal competence.

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Much of this increase in trading of futures has been due to speculation. Speculators in the oil market do not intend to use crude oil; instead they buy and sell contracts for crude oil just to make a profit from the changing prices. Many speculators simply buy and hold whole baskets of commodities including energy commodities, just like other speculators hold a variety of stocks in a mutual fund, in the expectation that prices will continue to rise. The number of futures and options contracts held by speculators has gone from around 100,000 contracts in 2001, which was 20% of the total number of outstanding contracts, to 1.2 million contracts currently held by speculators, which represents almost 40% of the outstanding futures and options contracts in oil on NYMEX [Chart 2].

There is now 12 times as many speculative holdings as there was in 2001, while holdings of non-speculative futures and options is up but 3 times. [Chart 3].

Not surprisingly, this massive speculation that the price of oil will increase has, in fact, helped increase the price of oil to a level far above the price that is justified by the traditional forces of supply and demand. This next chart shows how the price of oil futures on the NYMEX has skyrocketed in recent years. [Chart 4].

The President and CEO of Marathon Oil recently said, “$100 oil isn’t justified by the physical demand in the market. It has to be speculation on the futures market that is fueling this.” Mr. Fadel Gheit, oil analyst for Oppenheimer and Company describes the oil market as “a farce.” “The speculators have seized control and it’s basically a free-for-all, a global gambling hall, and it won’t shut down unless and until responsible governments step in.” In January of this year, as oil hit $100 barrel, Mr. Tim Evans, oil analyst for Citigroup, wrote “the larger supply and demand fundamentals do not support a further rise and are, in fact, more consistent with lower price levels.” At the joint hearing on the effects of speculation we held last December, Dr. Edward Krapels, a financial market analyst, testified, “Of course financial trading, speculation affects the price of oil because it affects the price of everything we trade. . . It would be amazing if oil somehow escaped this effect.” Dr. Krapels added that as a result of this speculation, “There is a bubble in oil prices.”

A fair price for a commodity is a price that accurately reflects the forces of supply and demand for the commodity, not the trading strategies of speculators who only are in the market to make a profit by the buying and selling of paper contracts with no intent to actually purchase, deliver, or transfer the commodity. As we have all too often seen in recent years, when speculation grows so large that it has a major impact on the market, prices get distorted and stop reflecting true supply and demand.

http://www.carllevin.com/news/…..ne-prices/

Breaking News:

John Boehner is weeping like a 9 year old watching Charlotte’s Web.

-G

So we just won three? special election house races in very red districts now I want to hear fron Nancy on how she does not have the support from the American people or in the House to end the war now.
We the people just did our job we elected more Democrats now its Nancy’s tern to get to work.

Bush and his cronies are men without honor.

Noooo! Really?

College ball. Gators 12 USF 2.

Ooops — forgot to mention that the e-mail spam crap about Obama has not been helpful, either. I cannot tell you how many conversations I’ve had with people who believe that crap. Canvassing is going to be a bitch and a half here…

I wonder if the site admins would add the scroll attribute to blockquote element.

Timmeh is realizing the Gooper gravy train is ending… *gasp* He might have to actually do his job…! ;-)

I saw a list earlier today with election results to this point. Obama has won approx 15 contests with 60% or more. Until tonight, Clinton won one – Arkansas, which she won with 70%. Of those 15 for Obama, 3-4 were over 70%. Several of these 15 were states made up of mostly “white working class” voters like Idaho and Kansas.

Tonight means it’s now 15-Obama, 2-Clinton on states won over with 60%. Superdelegates will likely continue flowing to Obama with the possibility of making up Hillary’s delegate gain tonight in the next day or two. Obama gained around 5 supers today, including another Clinton defector, even though they all knew tonight would be like this.

All tonight means is that we won’t win WV in the General, and we don’t need to. Onward and Upward!

Your candor appreciated, Christy. I saw the flip side of the situation here in ND. Obama came to the state Dem convention a clear fave and yet Hillary came on short notice just a couple hours behind. There’s a lesson there he needs yet to learn…or put into practice. Optics matter.

I’m thinkin’ a 50 states in 50 days strategy for after the August convention.

I can tell you because I have to watch this stuff as part of my job; natural gas is being played like this also, so any utility that is buying natural gas to produce electricity is going to pass on some major costs to customers this summer when it gets hot.

Woo-hoo!

The MSM will play Hillary as the comeback kid b/c of this WV win. The primary marathon gives them cover to keep any heat off McCain.

I have to change the channel when he comes on … I can’t take it …

You mean to tell me Obama doesn’t pray to the Qur’an every morning while wearing a Cuban-flag lapel pin and reciting the Pledge of Allegiance backwards in Satanic rites?

When bringing in text from outside, please confine excerpts to just a couple of paragraphs. And links are encouraged. Easier on the servers.
Thanks.

You live in the same sort of small state environment that I do, so you understand what I’m saying with the retail politics making a huge difference. Voters know when they’ve been disrespected. WV voters tend to be very Democratic on economic issues — but they won’t vote for a Dem if they feel taken for granted or dissed. And that’s exactly how both Gore and Kerry treated WV — as unimportant and taken for granted.

The Edwards’ understood the error and were loved for it. It’s likely one of the big reasons he’s still getting so many votes here 4 months after he dropped out of the race, too.

They aren’t playing it that way at all on either MSNBC or CNN, though. It’s all about the number crunching for them at this point, although they are salivating over continuing face time if things continue anyway…

Consider yourself asked!

Heh, heh. Here’s why turnout will be a record in November.

You do realize that these three special election victories say to Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer and Rahm Emanuel that they are doing exactly the right thing, don’t you? Please don’t try to give the American people credit for these three victories — they belong to Nancy, specifically for taking impeachment off the table.

Do not try to convince DeeCee Democrats of anything different.

Brownsox sums it up beautifully…

The NRCC spent over $1.3 million in this race, and that’s not counting what shadow groups like Freedom’s Watch put in. It’s an R+10 district. They ran some ads which were nasty as hell. And their candidate, if not outstanding, was not especially controversial.

We beat them anyway, on their turf.

Background article on the Mississippi Democratic victory for Congress. Very, very red district. BOOYAH!!

The number of futures and options contracts held by speculators has gone from around 100,000 contracts in 2001, which was 20% of the total number of outstanding contracts, to 1.2 million contracts currently held by speculators, which represents almost 40% of the outstanding futures and options contracts in oil on NYMEX [Chart 2].

That much speculation in oil futures? I know I complain the price of gas is going up but this sound like a bubble if the bubble burst before the election McCain might get credit the sooner it burst the better for him because people need to refill their bank accounts.
But if the bubble burst when Obama is President then George will have given Obama and us credit WooHoo!

No attention to background or performance? huh?!

I assume you’re doing what you think will work for you. How’s it goin’ so far? Who’d you vote for last time? How’d that work out for ya? How’s it gonna work out for your kids, your neighbors, the future of anybody or everybody you care about? that stranger half-way around the world grinding out your t-shirts at $1 a week?

Republican-flavored trivia from NPR: No democrat has won the presidency since 1916 (IIRC)without having won WV.

MSNBC called it for Childers…and I can see why. The outstanding counties all went for Childers in the earlier election by margins of between 58% and 85%) except for Tate where he lost with 33%. But the other counties outweigh Tate’s votes by 2:1…so it won’t effect things.

Childers wins in Mississippi! Whoohooooo!

Thanks, Christy. Makes sense to me.

Yes, and given folks like Margolis on Obama’s campaign team, this is a lapse I just don’t get.

You know, she was being honest about her opinion. No need to get testy at her for it, eh?

I can hear thousands of heads exploding in Washington and New York. Let the scurrying of the filthy little cockroaches begin.

Your Right Damm Koolaid !

great link, egreg — the GOP is running through their money pretty quickly..with nothing to show for it.

They are just so smart…as a mere peon I would never presume to question their judgment.

We may elect a single-payer health care Democratic Congress no matter which Democrat wins the White House. People are pissed.

Mississippi pissed.

Wow.

I wonder how many supers Obama will get tomorrow. And how much the warchest has grown.

Here’s a good example — Obama and Clinton were both in DC today to vote in the Senate. Clinton came back here to campaign. Obama was spotted later on Capitol Hill in his workout clothes — CNN just showed the footage again.

Any WV voters who saw that footage today would know exactly how important votes here were to him, since he was hitting a treadmill in DC rather than doing anything here. And that footage isn’t just going to WV, it’s going nationwide…and that sort of thing resonates in OH and PA just as much as it does here. And he needs at least one if not both of those states to take the general.

KO can’t seem to do the math- keeps saying that Hillary has ALMOST reached the two for one ratio when she’s way PAST that..Come on KO–THINK!

14 times he’s used the aids used my homework excuse. 3 times he’s said one thing and his university of chicago advisors have told folks what he’s just saying is rhetoric. i judge folks based on debates, i hear only generalities from him … his website may tell me about his platform but if he can’t talk about policy in a debate, i don’t know if he’s connected with what’s on the webpage, he’s spent more time running for president than voting on the senate floor and showing us what he actually DOES stand for, he’s smarmy — i’ve watched him pat Hillary, tell her she’s likeable enough, and i’ve worked enough in an old white guys world as an economist to recognize a patronzing a$$ when I see the tactics, after katrina, he came and gave the graduation speech for Dillard University, Hillary came down with Mary Landrieu and went back to work on Wetlands Restoration and 100 year levies, voting present continually on abortion rights, etc. in the IL legislature shows nothing to me …and finally TERRY SCHIAVO! plus, i’ve lived my life in swing states, and he has NO chance of winning … i think he’s another Dukkakis …

Go Gators!

I’m sure they’ll add several on to the total tomorrow. They’ve been spacing them out all week to diffuse the WV primary numbers and have done a good job of it.

I voted for kerry knowing full well he’d loose… same way I voted for Dukkakis … knowing i was on the right team, but the loosing team

optics matter…yes, they do.
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I love the Tuesdays, and the politics, boom de ya da, boom de ya da…

The GOP ran the same Pelosi-Obama-Wright-bitter-flagpin-patriotism ads in Mississippi that didn’t work in Hastert’s district or in Alabama last week.

We may be witnessing the end of the Karl Rove playbook, written by Richard Nixon’s minions.

This is a real map-changing election, folks. I’m thinking 1932 or 1964.

And the polls won’t show it, at all. And the pundits clearly aren’t smelling it until it smacks them in the face.

it looks like he was hiding from W VA. ….

Obama has won this thing- but he better learn something from today- these are shitty numbers. He needs to find a way of reaching older less educated people who put a lot of store in symbolism and simple basic talk.

Well, it certainly looked as if he didn’t feel it was worth it to him to go and work for the votes.

Are any of the pundits talking about Mississippi? Much more important than this primary.

Thanks for sharing your vote with us, Christy.

I am still proud to have voted early for Edwards. But I don’t think I will vote so early ever again.

Exactly! I will repeat a previous post: 2008=1932, Obama=FDR, HRC=Al Smith, McCain=Herbert Hoover.

Flip Side Questions: Has any Republican won the Presidency without winning West Virginia? Has any Democrat lost the electiopn and won West Viginia?

They way this is stated implies that if you win West Virginia you can forget the rest of the country. Other states may have the same, or better, predictability values.

No melalin-enhanced man with a strange name with an atheist mother and an Muslim father from Africa who he hardly knew that grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia and raised several years by his melalin-deficient grandparents in an apartment complex where his grandma still lives to this day has ever been the DemocratIC nominee for President, and likely frontrunner to win the Presidency in Nov. At least I can’t remember that ever happening before.

I agree..I think people have gotten beyond tired of it all..I think they are now supremely ticked off.

You asked a very knowledgeable question about the Palm Bay fires hope everything is good for you and your family/friends.

For the rest of the country, Palm Bay, Florida, lost about 60 homes due to wildfires.

At the joint hearing on the effects of speculation we held last December, Dr. Edward Krapels, a financial market analyst, testified, “Of course financial trading, speculation affects the price of oil because it affects the price of everything we trade.

So WTF is Congress waiting on?

$6 a gallon? They knew in December this BS was going on, and now, in May we get a strongly worded letter.

I voted at my Florida precinct for Edwards the day before he dropped out.

Yes Chuck Todd is talking about the Mississippi victory. “The Republican brand is soft”

So right. So much of this palaver about the usual metrics is becoming anachronistic before our very eyes.

Heh, The bigger they are, the harder they fall…! Maybe then the news bureaus might actually consider hiring real journalists and retire the gas bags already! I know, I’m merely dreaming…

attytood! That should carry the day, or most of one, anyway. I hope you don’t count on write-in votes, without carrying a dictionary.

And I’d watch the sharp corners, with that built-in chip on yer shoulder.

Sorry. Not buying whatever you’re selling today. Bile’s bitter, waste. Best dumpt in the proper receptacle.

I said this in the last thread. Three strikes for the GOP. Didn’t they recently lose two special elections in states they’ve held for decades. “It’s a hard rain gonna fall…”

I’m sorry, but Hillary’s tenacity is amazing … she is WORKING and FIGHTING for every vote and I think that says something … and I’ve sent her MORE money than I have sent any other candidate — My republican to the death dad is considering switching parties to vote for her, so they can yell at me all they want … I don’t go for action

Boy, Karl Rove sure was a genius wasn’t he.

He has worked so hard for us down here in New Orleans … he’s a great guy

Soft

Flaccid

Limp

Impotent

Unable to deliver

These terms, and others like it, are how we should describe the GOP brand.

There are very few people with actual political wisdom on the tube- and those who DO have political wisdom are generally partisan.

Sorry if you’ve already answered this – but you will vote for Obama in the general nevertheless when he is the nominee?

We are a very old state — we have a lot of elderly, retired folks. And he absolutely has work to do with them…if the folks with whom I’ve spoken are any indicator anyway, including a LOT of the party regulars, which scares me a bit.

wow.

Not to mention “wide stanced”

Folks, let’s please not insult each other in here.
Thanks.

If you are looking to pick a fight, your comment just might do the job.

the key to the world is the senate and a veto proof majority … none of that right wing religious BS will fly … SCOTUS will be safe, we’ll regain the bill of rights and privacy …none of this stupid gay baiting crap on the senate floor .. no more terry schiavo … no more attacking women’s health

The goober running against Childers in MS-01 tried the Obama isn’t one of us crap in a Republican district and got himself crushed.

I spent some serious time this morning staring at Edwards name on our ballot, I have to say. I left my presidential vote until the last thing, and still I sat there looking at my ballot. I really feel like both Obama and Clinton are very, very similar on a large number of issues. I said this earlier today, but it came down to their foreign policy teams in my mind as the deciding factor.

But Edwards was still the candidate that had both my heart and my gut. It was tough not to fill in that bubble, I have to say…

i’ll just say he has a LOT of work to do with me , right at this moment, if it were held this month, I’d stay home … my vote will be meaningless in this purple state

Thanks for asking. We are ok. Beachside Daytona. Should be safe from fires. Hurricanes – differnt story. Glad you are ok.

Yes, it appears that his brand of rhetoric (which is very impressive to many) isn’t coming in on the right frequency to reach some important people.

The lead that should be running everywhere on Wednesday:

Republican Party–headed toward extinction [shhhh, don’t tell the creationists]

No vote is ever meaningless. It’s your right, your privilege and your duty. Go vote for whichever candidate you choose and enjoy it.

Exit polls on MSNBC (iirc) showed 30% of voters today were over 65.

12% were under 30.

Was watching footage of that earlier today, and it looks horrid with rising winds making for a very long night for folks who live there and all those exhausted firefighters. Please be safe if you are in the area.

I voted for Edwards. No regrets.

i’m a college professor and a buddhist, wouldn’t waste a synapse or the karma on it

and more delegates, and now superdelegates!

Yes they are (on MSNBC)

That’s because their party isn’t intelligently designed. *g*

Apparently, you weren’t the only one to consider it, at least 7% of WV’ers did fill in Edward’s bubble…! ;-)

i’m voting for Mary Landrieu because voting for her will make a difference …

Considering Beohner rolled out a slogan that is also used to sell Cialis, I have to say I’m finding that really humorous…

Would love to see the exit poll results in Mississippi.

I wish MSNBC had John Edwards on opposite Hucklebee. Willie Brown is a vapid people-please who wouldn’t mix it up. I think John — or Elizabeth! — would have.

Brown is a Matthews favorite, I think.

D’oh, lol

what’s that? We’re ready when YOU are?

Cristy, I absolutely agree. Hillary made the small town connection. She made the people here feel as if they mattered. I had a little girl come up to me yesterday and tell me she got to shake Hillary Clinton’s hand. I can’t describe the look on her face. She knew she had experienced a big moment in her life. As an Obama supporter I felt ignored. I saw him at the JJ Dinner last year, but I couldn’t attend these last two rallies in Charleston. On the other hand, a couple of weeks ago Bill Clinton was two blocks from my house and last night Hillary was only 15 miles away at a rally I could easily have attended. I guess he didn’t feel as if he wanted to spend the resources or time. It’s a real shame because these are the people he keeps talking about…those who are struggling and feel as if the bar has been raised out of their reach.

It’s funny how I respond to his speeches – I find them moving, but at the same time I am aware of being a little manipulated. There is a certain preacherliness to them that I’m a sometimes uncomfortable with – both because of my religious upbringing and cultural differences between Canada and the US.

I prefer reading his speeches to listening to them. Though I imagine that in person he could be electrifying.

putting on kevlar and nomex mod suit and climbing the dive tower

boing boing swan dive (no splash, ‘natch)

g’evening pups

Elizabeth’s had a relapse …

Elizabeth would make a great counterpoint. She would have been a fab choice!

I’ve enjoyed Huckabee. Nice demeanor and funny.

I’ll hoist a coctail to honor the “permanent Repub majority”
snicker

It’s the lack of “specifics” that’s preventing you? I mean no quarrel, but have you been to his website and read any of the many policy proposals?

He speaks in lofty generalities quite intentionally. Doesn’t work for some, sure, but it’s worked better than the other technique, because this is overwhelmingly an emotional election – an election about redemption, I believe.

By the way, thanks for the Jus cogens you’ve been spreading lately.

Bill Clinton on MSNBC campaigning in Kalispell. Y’know, Obama should get major props–he’s bein’ double-teamed all the way.

Considering how easy it is to mispronounce his name, the humor is quite rampant.

Until he stops calling our party the Democrat Party, I think we should call him Minority Leader Boner.

Obama knew two months ago that Clinton was going to take WV big time. They love Bill and Hillary and Bill both campaigned there hard. He made the calculation and spent his efforts elsewhere for a more strategic payoff. He is doing the same in Kentucky, but working hard in Oregon, South Dakota and Montana where he should win and his team is working the SDs. The math is in and Obama has made the numbers and a solid case for the nomination. Read this weeks Newsweek. Hillary’s speech tonight once again moved the goal posts; now she says all MI and FL Dels must be seated now “as is”, the pledged Dels needed are now 2209 and the popular vote and particular states of her choosing are the important ones. How can anyone support this kind of self serving shell game? Her credibility is shot. I don’t care when she exists, as long as it is graceful and she doesn’t damage Obama for the GE.

that’s a really powerful testimony … the bar out of reach says sooo much about life right now

But it is apparent that he is reaching some percentage of voters in WV. What demographic are they, and why does he resonate with them?

I wonder how many supers Obama will get tomorrow. And how much the warchest has grown.

I saw tonight when Sen. Obama is about 150 delegates away.

Now let’s think about this for a moment. If you are a super delegate, you only have 150 more chances for your vote to be meaningful, so if you are interested in currying favor with the probable nominee, it just may be time to get off that fence before it’s too late.

He’s clearly got the style of a preacher- and may respond to it. It’s often a bit much for me- but he IS a great speaker.

Dedicated to the Republic Party:

Come Undone – Duran Duran

Graceful, as always…! Aloha, Suz!

no fight. suggest u scroll back a fair ways & look at selective baiting by teh fella. turnoff. too tired to bother coping. I’ll leave it for folk like Twain [110] to deal with im in a restrained manner. That o.k.? Sorry to have ruffled your fronds.

That’s one of the considerations.

** clink **

He says one thing, his website says one thing, then his advisors go and contradict him and say it’s political rhetoric. In a debate, Hillary nails the facts, the policy, the issues. It reminds me of the Al Gore vs the Dubya debates without the eye rolling. I’m sorry. I’ve watched enough debates and things to know when some one hasn’t done their homework.

Uh oh.

I can’t believe how in awe so many political types still are of him. He’s little more than a a man-larva with an outsized memory and complete lack of ethics.

Only a few miles away, but very safe, Thank you for you kind thoughts!
And thank you for you kind thoughts for our country every day!

Edwards had dropped out right before the Arizona primary and I too had a hard time not voting for him, went with Obama.

What’s this?

The big shame is that these are the folks who could most use someone making them feel like they matter. They desperately, desperately need it right now, because so many of them feel like they are forgotten or even thought of as less than nothing by people in power.

A little effort would have made a huge difference, and it’s something the Clintons saw because, honestly, I think Bill remembers that from his childhood and knows what it meant to him. I can remember seeing his face in that iconic pix of him shaking Pres. Kennedy’s hand. It can make a huge difference to show that sort of grace to someone in need — and had Obama reached out just a little more, I think it would have been a much, much closer election. But, as it is, we don’t seem worth the resources, and that’s a wrong strategy in my opinion. But then, I’m not a high-paid strategist, so what do I know. *g*

Clink to you Teddy

she’s not doing so well at the moment …

Read more on Jus cogens :)

nah, you’ve got it nailed … that’s the fire in your belly thing …

Make that triple-teamed. You forgot the McCain part of the chorus. Would the job possibly get easier when there is only one other player on the court?

There are things that are beyond my understanding. It is simply time to rally behind our nominee.

hiya suzanne!

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, Lord love her and heal her. The cancer dragon is a haunting one for families…never out of the shadow.

Christy,
More power to you. I probably would have. Being in PA only the 2 were on the ballot and it was pretty hard fought here. I couldn’t afford to do the write in, feeling the need to close the gap as much as possible. And O won my county, surprisingly.

Anyway, in your shoes I probably would have gone for Edwards. It seems that 7% did.

heya teddy

What would I give to see him convicted of a crime and sentenced…
Poisonous toad

Have to wonder if there’s something in his psyche because of comments made by his ol’ white gramma that even he doesn’t realize how wounding it is?

i really know that from experience … down here in the ninth ward, we see a lot of folks come and go, Elizabeth and John and their kids are family here, really family … she’s so impressive, I’d love to see her as president, I really would

God bless Elizabeth. Why does it happen to the good ones?

eli’s upstairs with late nite

Well, there’s certainly our own little portion of the “Clinton haters.” I think there is a certain percentage of those nationwide. I know several Republicans who switched parties just to say they voted against her inthe primary. So there is that.

But beyond that, there are two bigger college towns, lots of young professionals, folks in the Eastern panhandle nearer to DC are certainly in his voting bloc in some part, and political junkies who have been following things as well. Plus, you have the DFA crowd, the environmentalists, and the usual progressive folks as well. It’s a mixed state, and honestly I think he could have done better here than he did — but likely still not have won outright. But cementing himself as someone people liked for November as a “second choice” would have had real value come fall. But they didn’t do that, and we are going to have a ground war. Again.

She testified five days ago on Capitol Hill.

Suzanne!

BTW and this is OT: I’d like to have folks support the 21st century GI Bill and call your reps and senators … more ifnormation here:

http://www.americanprogressact…..pr20080229

Good night pups. Sleep well.

I was for Edwards after Dodd dropped out. Then came Nevada-South Carolina. Then I truly saw that Obama had an excellent chance and was the only way to block the Republican-lite Clintonistas from succeeding.

Then I came to know and understand Obama and kicked myself for not understanding sooner.

Hillary has had to fight twice as hard because she has had such high negatives. People now see she has a tenacity unlike anything seen in a primary in a long time. I think we would be well served to have a President that we know will tirelessly fight for us.

That said, I will still be proud to vote for Obama in November if he wins the nomination. I just hope he is paying attention.

I heard that this was largely a rural vs. “suburban” race, as much as anything. Davis apparently attached to developer interests in the Republican party and that has hit the area very hard. So it’s as much about big outside money taking away the farmland and the “home” feel of the area as anything.

Itawba County is last to report. It went for Childers 62% in the prior election so it looks as if it’ll be Childers by at least 54%-46%…an amazing 8% spread! Smackdown to the RNC!!!!

About the primaries, I have learned alot about them this year. There is much I don’t like. They are drawn out way too long, lets have 5 Super Tuesdays with 10 states (and territories), 1 or 2 weeks apart, and get them done in 1 month or 2 1/2 months. Too much power is in the first few primaries, way too much. Why? Let ALL states participate and have a say in the nomination process, that is the democratic way, right? As we have just learned, it sure gets more voters interested and out to the polls, which is a good thing.

Here in MI I am waiting to have one that will be counted and has both Clinton and Obama’s name on it. I am glad that all the states primaries are important. Some of you wrote how excited you were about this being the first time ever your state came in to play. It was heartwarming to hear your stories, yet sad at the same time that your voice had never counted in previous years/decades before in presidential primaries.

Superdelegates, get rid of them. It’s too much like a monarchy rather than a democracy. Any ways, who ever made the die hard rule that only one member of a party should be on the ballot for President? Oh ya, wait, last time I voted there were about 8 names on the ballot, Dem, GOP, Ind, Libertarian, Green Party, etc… Maybe we should think out side the box for a change?

BTW, does anybody remember the story of the West Virginia pledged delegate selection earlier in April that went 90% to Obama supporters? Just curious.

How do you get beyond Sen. Clinton’s war vote.

That was my main problem with her.

Wrong vote, and unlike Sen. Edwards, no apology.

As a cancer survivor that was given a really grim prognosis with a 4 month old baby, I’d just like to say I really support a completely universal health care program and I support folks that support same … also lack of that is stopping us from being competitive in global trade … and that’s the economist in me coming out… elizabeth’s journey just brings back all my experiences …

I apologize in advance, and I mean no offense – I’m not buying all this concern about Obama’s not doing much to contest WV. For a long time now, it has been pretty clear that he is going to lock up the nomination, and it became undeniable after Indiana/NC.

So, in many respects, this is almost the equivalent of having the requisite delegates, except that we also have a campaign that has been dragging on to incredibly taxing lengths, so he has every right to treat the remaining contests in the same way that McCain has been treating his remaining primaries.

He is pivoting for the general. It’s about time that happened, because we need to start working on McCain, yesterday.

The concern over white workin’ class folk and this burning need for him to win majorities of every conceivable demographic can be a tad overwrought, methinks. As they have pointed out several times, Democrats have won general elections with similar coalitions. Besides, Obama’s turnout is going to be obscene, and will bring out people that usually never come out. Like I said before, the usual metrics are going to seem downright old-fashioned in November.

See, Pat Buchanan just called Obama’s “problem” with white voters “huge.” This is bunk, like much of what comes out of that man’s gullet.

Me too. Why is it we can’t find out where those sack of lies originate from? The people who start them need to be exposed.

i’ve been consistently against the war, but I can’t say what I’d have done sitting in WA looking at stuff … I know I thought it was crazy from the get go, but I didn’t see twisted intel reports and I know she prolly knew the intel from the previous admin, at that point, early on in the Bush administration, I don’t think any one knew how far they’d go to push the neocon agenda

we dont’ need to work on McCain, we need to appeal to the voters in the swing states … the purple states… you get that by going door-to-door … at least he’s been in MO, that’s a purple state

Either you or Pat Buchanan is living in a bubble. I hope it is him.

is there a way to post the ’alternative’ posts and have the prior and next thread be back to fdl?

(and the calendar would be a big help for those of us that go out of town and want to go to the dates we missed instead of having to google which is a real pain in the ass)

“voting present continually on abortion rights, etc. in the IL legislature…”

This charge gets repeated a lot from critics of Obama who are unfamiliar with Illinois politics. Voting “present” doesn’t mean what you think it means.

Here’s a link if you want to know what it means.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02…..mikva.html

If the people in the first district of Mississippi can get it right, I
am left without a pleasant answer for West Virginia, where they have
been done in by Clinton and Bush political economy. I guess Obama did
not campaign there because the numbers were so bad at the outset. The
MSM keep calling WV a swing state, I think it is not anymore, but from
what I am seeing here, Texas might be. Hopefully WV can sort it out in the fall.

You’re right about the missed opportunity to cement himself as second choice, of course. A lttle bit of time spent empathizing with a group of elderly people could have helped some, not sure how much. He’s made a bad first impression, and it will take double the effort to overcome that. Hopefuly he will have that opportunity and make that commitment, if he does become the nominee.

Add to the list of states in which he has fought a hard ground war PA, OH, VA, IN, NC, IO, etc. etc.

It is a myth that he has not seriously contested swing states. In fact, he has made potential swing states of previously deep-red states.

There is a link to next and previous posts at the top and bottom of each page.

yup, but did you check out the % of the times he did that compared to others? Go do that and then come talk to me

He’s won “deep red states” and my purple state (LA) with about two demographics … they’ll be there for the general and probably by that number, but that’s not enough to win the state for the general …

I agree. Hillary is a fighter. And my fear is that Obama may be a bit like Lamont, who went on vacation after winning the primary.

That’s not to say that I don’t like BO. But in an interview he said how much he missed his family. Perfectly human and touching. But, HRC, misses no one. She is 100% focused on winning.

That’s a matchup I’d take any day.

So, you’re not going to concede the point that you were repeating misinformation?

do not ever estimate fire in the belly

again, go see what the average percentages are … how many times he’s used that option compared to the average senator, and then come back and talk to me … then we’ll talk misinformation and spin

What good is it if not the nominee?

I’m from upstate NY. We’ve been ignored for 200yrs. Never seen a presidential candidate campaign here.
Although, Cheney came last year to campaign for the repub house candidate. He lost.

christy–in ohio, i didn’t get ONE SINGLE PHONE CALL OR PERSON AT MY DOOR from obama here, i got one mailing, one………clinton? lost count…….2 robocalls, rest were real people, about 8 mailings, all different……

michelle obama came here and a neighboring city, barack had a closed session for business people in the burg next to us…..didn’t even invite the local radio station owner, who backed him…….clinton’s? bill, chelsea and hillary, all over it……..multiple towns, multiple burgs……..one at 10:30 at night, past the bedtime of most here. thousands showed up…..there aren’t even thousands there…….

i have many questions, among them i just posted in various sites here……
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this one on fdl, later one on cliff’s thread

i’ve been dying to say this—-and i don’t think the clintons ’lost’ black voters, they just found a man they like better…everyone seems to forget how long it took for black voters to embrace him, well, i haven’t, is the same as a new friendship, you check them out, but then wonder, then look harder, then think, then hear the old, then they’re gettin’ jealous, then your new friends tell you new stuff and you like it, then you say, hey, i like it over here….and like with anyone when your friends move on to someone they have more in common with-it hurts and you say things you shouldn’t, but everyone ends up friends in the end, cuZ they have a bond with both of them……….

make new friends but keep the old, one is silver and the other’s gold.

==============cliff’s post about boehner misstating what obama said about israel======

boehner deals in ’nuances’……i come from boehner country…….my friends and parents live there, they are all democrats in a vast desert……..

he got where he is using nuances, until someone in power in the democratic party deals with his choice of nuances/finding the ’out’ and calls him on them, he will continue to win the word game……obama so far has not dealt with him.seems like he should have by now.

and i have a problem with obama’s statement here-”it describes the history of overcoming great odds and a courage and a commitment to carving out a democracy and prosperity in the midst of hardscrabble land.”

well, it wasn’t so hardscrabble for the people who lived there for generations and generations and generations before they were kicked out to live in refugee status in lands that they don’t own, no farms, no lemon trees in their grandfather’s yards, no history where they were ’put’ so that someone else could claim their lands with a new history, 60 years later new generations calling it their own…….

i think obama has yet to say what he thinks about israel, cuz i’ve been listening for it, and i haven’t heard it yet.

and i know an israeli, very well, who has things to say on it, too…..i see both sides, and i haven’t heard anything definitive from obama on this yet.

so, cliff, i guess i would like you to address that. this seems like minnow bait to me. the meat has yet to be addressed in my book.

Pat Buchanon – Concern Troll

Funny how worried all the republicans are about the divisive nature of the Democratic primary.
Seems they are having trouble getting their presumed nominee over the 70% margin

let’s see, john kerry, michael dukkakis, jimmy carter 2, mcgovern … what? nominees don’t win?

I’ll take that as a “no.”

We can go back and forth on this all night. But this is largely academic. Obama will be the nominee. He’s is going to campaign like relentlessly for the general, because (1) he knows, as the first credible black candidate, he can take nothing for granted; and (2) the symbolic and substantive stakes are so incredibly high.

I don’t know what else to say. Just going to have to wait and see. I’m telling you, though, it’s going to be an incredible campaign.

well, i’ll take that as you don’t do your homework then …

yeah, that’s what they said about michael dukkakis and john kerry … oh, and did i mention McGovern? and then there’s jimmy carter 2 …

haha, not “like relentlessly,” just “relentlessly.”

…Buchanan’s flipping his top. There’s no other mule left for him to beat than this phony concern over blue-collar beer-drinkin’ boys.

She should’ve known better.

There was no credible evidence to be had, and I can’t believe you’re trying to sell the “Who knew the Neocons were nuts?” defense.

fern at 189–no there isn’t when you are in the ’time warp’ of cliff or emptywheel or tbogg when they are a main poster here on fdl………..

OK, Dakinikat, ok.

Your answer does not make sense. How is Clintons fire usable if she is
not the nominee, is that the reason Obama lost all those votes in WV?

I think every one knew they were nuts, i don’t think every one took them seriously. I had ferreted out their website before most of the Dems I knew even knew they existed … i think you’re giving way too much credit to the majority of people … especially those not under the influence of ptomac fever

There’s lots of buyer’s remorse in those Super Tuesday states Clinton won. If they had it to do again the result would be much different.

And if she’s such a fighter, how did she get constantly blown out by what many seem to consider an amateur? How did she get blown out in the caucuses? Why do Obama’s volunteers outnumber hers 300 to 1? Why is she $20 million in debt while his campaign is likely sitting on $30-40 million. Seems like all she’s good at is avoiding defeat. Which is strangely reminiscent of the entire experience of the 90’s.

Make that avoiding oblivion.

Obama has never had a really tough election before, i think he’s beginning to figure out what he’s in for … there’s a hell of a lot of difference when you’re a candidate facing a huge hate machine … i speak from experience on that … i freely admit i couldn’t do what it takes to fight the tons of evangelicals coming out of the word work saying horrid things and making up horid things about me and watching childhood friends turning on me for reasons about which I had no idea … I’m not sure he has the mettle, frankly … but again, just mho, you go ahead and believe what you want

look at the demographics …

I have this enduring vision of Hillary Clinton and Joe Lieberman jumping up and leading the applause at the 2003 SOTU.
It appalled me at the time and I have not changed my mind since.
The next day some intelligence type was (perhaps anonymously) quoted as saying
“I can’t believe they’re trotting out that shaggy dog again”

This stuff was obvious then – and it is still obvious.
The only pro-administration argument during the the run up to the Iraq invasion was:
“They cannot be that fucking stupid”
well….

Nite lilysmom.

you know, i never worried more for my country than when i came back to fdl after my knee surgery in october, around january and read things here……i then truly worried for my country like never before.

and noone else seems to see the dangerous things that are expressed here. encouraged here.

hyena behavior.

i do. i see it.

and actually that’s not what I hear from my old stomping grounds of nebraska, i don’t think their numbers that were determined on that day are as hard as you’d think .. but again, that’s anectdotal, not based on any demographics I know of, so discount it …

She was probably worried about sniper fire at the time.

Thanks for the reply, not sure whether want to believe zinger is for me
or yourself, he has a rough road ahead for sure.

I agree. The vote for the war, and all the madness that accompanied it, still gets stuck in my craw every time I think of it.

I was not a fraction as politically aware as I am now, or as any Senator surely was at the time, and even I knew voting for the war was stupid and wrong.

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. Unless we decide to employ it ourselves. The rightwing hate machine can gear up all it wants. It will only reinforce the total irrelevance of the Republican party in these times. They might be able to carry places like West Virginia while suffering a landslide defeat approaching 60% of the popular vote.

The messages of hope and change will swamp the message of hate and fear with ease.

no kidding,believe me, i feel for any one facing that attack machine, you HAVE no idea … the right to lifers stalked my children (3 and 7) and left messages on my machine nightly as to what they’d do to them

Which demographics would those be? Appalachian demographics?

Yep – the “all the best people were doing it” argument doen’s hold much water for me.
Especially since you had folks like Dick Durban standing up against it.
Durbin never struck me as much more than a washington middler before.
He continues to impress.

“CHILDERS TOOK OBAMA’S ENDORSEMENT OVER OUR VALUES” said the ad that failed.

i think you need to dig deeper and figure out which demographic, in the states that matter, is a larger factor in the electoral college

Yeah, Durbin’s got his moments. But we need to make a mold out of Russ Feingold and just make 99 more of him.

Let them spend their limited resources exclusively on a smear campaign while Obama bombards the airwaves with logic. I’m sorry it may have failed in the past, but I think that logic is the easy winning strategy now.

Obama’s my Senator.
He does not walk on water, and his “hey guys” demeanor frankly grates a bit.
But I think his political instincts are supurb.
It takes real work to give the impression of effortlessness.
People underestimated Obama and paid the political price.

Sometimes I think it’s helpful to take a step back, lest we not see the forest for the trees.

Anyone remember when this whole thing got started?

Sen. Obama, with no money, standing on a stage with 7 white guys and the wife of a former President who is holding the keys to the Democratic machine.

He runs a campaign based on small donations (very ‘Blue America’ wouldn’t you say?) and refuses contributions from lobbyists.

Now, against all those odds, he’s the last one standing.

I would think that more people around here would be impressed by that.

Feingold is an obvious hero type.
Durbin less so.
I actually think a handfull of Feingolds with a majority of Durbins would be more effective than the opposite.

I believe you, they are capable of really sick behaviors and I do not
envy the standard bearer. I thought it worth a try for an alternative to
the standard campaign for this election due to the extraordinary facts
the Bush years have set up for the election, there is so much at stake
and we might not get another chance if it fails, so I understand the
question of toughness. It is just that resilience is toughness of a
non-hollywood style. At any rate, thanks for the dialog.

Well, it’s not Appalachia, which is the only demographic that’s been giving Obama trouble lately.

“What does it matter how a man falls? When the fall is all that’s left, it matters a great deal…” Some genius playwright from England

I’m still in shock myself. And I must confess I am thrilled about politics for the first time in a long time.

Thank you so very much for saying it better than I could. It is so mystifying. But I have hope. It was a struggle, but I finally convinced the last Clinton supporter on my block one day before the primary.

That is how I became an Obama supporter, they seem to come from nowhere,
but they really don’t. The times and the character meet and history gets
made.

What I really respect about Feingold is that he hails from a state that could easily boot him for a Republican, and he takes often unpopular positions based on genuine principle, at great political risk.

Plus, the man is brilliant when it comes to constitutional issues.

ok dc, you mentioned russ feingold–his pac has a contest for 5k of campaign money…….

darcy burner also said in her mailing that it’s the last night to vote for the progressive patriot who will get 5k from it.
voting closes wednesday morning.
http://www.progressivepatriots…..se-iv.html

here’s a little about the candidates you choose from:
http://www.progressivepatriots…..se-iv.html

“The times and the character meet and history gets
made.”

Well put, and succinct to boot! I believe the word I’m looking for is “pithy.”

And I must confess I am thrilled about politics for the first time in a long time

Thanks for mentioning that. So am I.

I also neglected to point out he taught Constitutional Law, which can only be helpful when in office trying to paste back together what’s left of it.

carlo at 235–and seriously, that ought to give you pause, because appalachians are among the most insightful people that exist…….i am serious here…..self-sufficient, insightful…….outta give a pause to you who want to ride over their thoughts. and their morals. and where they come from…..a lot of them emigrated to ohio.

someone somewhere outta consider that. i mentioned all that in my post at 199 and in earlier threads, where it can go county by county………..

Can’t remember where I saw it but did you hear the story about the little boy who sold his bicycle and anything he could find to raise money for Hillary. Bill Clinton heard about it and it blew him away.

I also neglected to point out he taught Constitutional Law, which can only be helpful when in office trying to paste back together what’s left of it.

No disagreement here but couldn’t resist mentioning that John Yoo still teaches Constitutional Law at Boalt.

Out here in Ory-gun I have been hoping that the damn corporate media would just STFU and let us all have our chance to vote in this historic election.
Edwards seemed to me to be the only real transformational candidate in this primary, and after he dropped out I eventually decided to support Clinton. She has campaigned here & will be coming again at the end of the week. Obama has also made several visits and has bought more tv ad time. It’s exciting to have presidential candidates fighting for our votes. We have an unusually strong bunch of Dems contesting each other for all the state-wide offices, including the chance to go against Republican Senator Gordon-moderate-only-when-up-for re-election Smith, so the turnout (mail-in ballots) should be pretty high. However, I have been struck by the relative paucity of yard signs for either candidate (compared with years past) and I live in the bluest of blue SE Portland.

Feingold and Kucinich have the most integrity in Washington.

Carlo, here’s a link to a post that dispels the myth of Barack’s problem with white, working class voters nationally. The problem lies mainly in Appalachia. Cool maps too.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/…..338/514258

Who were Obama’s original backers?

good evening pups

interesting conversations happening with lots of underlying assumptions. makes for great study.

You are absurdly naive and entranced with your own opinion. Perhaps you will be borne out; but it is nowhere near the given you make it out to be. Your condescending and demeaning tone towards people that have intelligent, if differing, opinions and thoughts does not come off well. Why not take a chill pill and relax a little bit, eh? Quite frankly, I have been around elections for quite some time and am not all that excited to be lectured and demeaned by a nubie on a messianic bent. Give it a rest.

This chart appears on the main Politics page in the WaPo.

West Virginia Democratic Primary
Candidate Votes %
Hillary Clinton 234,813 67
Barack Obama 90,258 26
Other 25,462 7
Key: Winner
Precincts: 98% | Updated: 1:41 AM ET | Source: AP
More About This Race »

When you click on the “More About This Race” you see this chart

West Virginia Democratic Primary Results
Candidate Votes %
Hillary Clinton 234,813 67%
Barack Obama 90,258 26%
John Edwards 25,462 7% Key: Winner
Precincts: 98% | Updated: 1:41 AM ET | Source: AP

The WaPo STILL Won’t give Edwards any respect.

My Primary in Kentucky is next week and I will vote for Edwards.

Senex smack down of Puer. lol

I feel the same way. If there was still a “real” contest we might have considered voting for Obama. But because we feel he has the nomination we can feel comfortable voting for who we REALLY wanted as our nominee.

“Until he stops calling our party the Democrat Party…”

Well, let’s work on the Democratic governor of West Virginia first. He did the exact same thing on CNN yesterday.

No disagreement here but couldn’t resist mentioning that John Yoo still teaches Constitutional Law at Boalt.

I understand that Josef Mengele was a doctor, too.

Depends on what Yoo do with the education.

Ha! How clever am I?

“it’s really all about the media hearing themselves talk, no matter what idiocy drips out.” Filling air time with no one around to say shut up. Many have. Who the hell with a brain listens to them? The mute buttons of America have never been used more. And I especially would like to get word to the republicons in congress to not even bother opening their mouths. An R? Instant mute. Fun! :)
Anyway, I’ve forgotten where I was.. but why can’t we have all the primaries? If nothing else it will give everybody a chance and more time to keep spitting on the democratic base, the voters, me, a woman for Clinton and to keep shoving the delegates and super delegates down our thorats. The delegates and super delegates decide in the end. Got it, voter? Shoving it. Is there no time for the remaining primaries? I know the media is rushed, they have a script to follow but to me November is a long way off. I’ts only Spring, plenty of time for primaries and more than enough time to impeach bushcheney.
JC

Hillary Clinton explains why her campaign is still viable.