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		<title>By: nellieh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/and-yet-another-mission-accomplished/#comment-1442849</link>
		<dc:creator>nellieh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bush has been a great mentor to Maliki! He got the corruption part down pat in a hurry!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush has been a great mentor to Maliki! He got the corruption part down pat in a hurry!</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/and-yet-another-mission-accomplished/#comment-1442665</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree, lets do nothing until bush is gone, then prosecute the hell out of them, across the board.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let’s also have a demanding impeachment march to take place concurrently in the National Mall and in San Francisco, and imploring international law to prosecute the whole rotten bunch for war crimes.    &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This infection must be purged if we are ever to be the shining city on the hill again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Send the link to this post and comments to our Democratic “leaders” demanding action, and/or someone post a comment with email addresses to them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, lets do nothing until bush is gone, then prosecute the hell out of them, across the board.  </p>
<p>Let’s also have a demanding impeachment march to take place concurrently in the National Mall and in San Francisco, and imploring international law to prosecute the whole rotten bunch for war crimes.    </p>
<p>This infection must be purged if we are ever to be the shining city on the hill again.</p>
<p>Send the link to this post and comments to our Democratic “leaders” demanding action, and/or someone post a comment with email addresses to them.</p>
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		<title>By: nonplussed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/and-yet-another-mission-accomplished/#comment-1442372</link>
		<dc:creator>nonplussed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here is a good explanation from Blue Oregon at the time:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;GOP lawmakers had marched out of the House chamber about 11 p.m. Thursday, shouting “shame, shame” and saying that Democrats had “stolen” a vote on a parliamentary motion to pull an agriculture spending bill off the floor until it incorporated an explicit denial of federal benefits to illegal immigrants. The bill already would deny such benefits to illegal immigrants, and Democrats stressed that they won the vote fair and square. But a campaign has been launched, and the House has not fully recovered.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Democrats appeared to have won the vote, but with the voting time apparently having expired, GOP leaders persuaded three Latino Republicans who had voted with the Democrats to change their votes. At the same time, Democrats say, five Democratic lawmakers who had voted with Republicans were scrambling to change their votes as well. With two of the GOP votes changed, Democrats gaveled the vote shut, 214 to 214, and declared that they had won. But the public tally showed that the Republicans had won, 215 to 213, just as the vote was declared for the Democrats. The official final tally was 216 to 212 in the Democrats’ favor.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Boehner was quick to opine, “In our view, this was an astonishing and unprecedented abuse of power, defying the will of the people and trampling on the very fabric of American freedom and democracy.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was watching the incident in question and it appeared to be an honest mistake and the Republiclowns were quick to take advantage of an inexperienced Speaker.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blueoregon.com/2007/08/meltdown-in-the.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a good explanation from Blue Oregon at the time:</p>
<blockquote><p>GOP lawmakers had marched out of the House chamber about 11 p.m. Thursday, shouting “shame, shame” and saying that Democrats had “stolen” a vote on a parliamentary motion to pull an agriculture spending bill off the floor until it incorporated an explicit denial of federal benefits to illegal immigrants. The bill already would deny such benefits to illegal immigrants, and Democrats stressed that they won the vote fair and square. But a campaign has been launched, and the House has not fully recovered.</p>
<p>Democrats appeared to have won the vote, but with the voting time apparently having expired, GOP leaders persuaded three Latino Republicans who had voted with the Democrats to change their votes. At the same time, Democrats say, five Democratic lawmakers who had voted with Republicans were scrambling to change their votes as well. With two of the GOP votes changed, Democrats gaveled the vote shut, 214 to 214, and declared that they had won. But the public tally showed that the Republicans had won, 215 to 213, just as the vote was declared for the Democrats. The official final tally was 216 to 212 in the Democrats’ favor.</p>
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<p>Boehner was quick to opine, “In our view, this was an astonishing and unprecedented abuse of power, defying the will of the people and trampling on the very fabric of American freedom and democracy.”</p>
<p>I was watching the incident in question and it appeared to be an honest mistake and the Republiclowns were quick to take advantage of an inexperienced Speaker.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blueoregon.com/2007/08/meltdown-in-the.html" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sona</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/and-yet-another-mission-accomplished/#comment-1442337</link>
		<dc:creator>sona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree - regardless of all that anyone has to say justifiably about their treatment of minorities, their response to this natural disaster was immediate in stark contrast to what’s happening in Burma where things are going to get very very very very dire with the coming monsoons in June.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Irrawaddy delta region is not pro junta hence unlikely to feature prominently in its sights.  Aid agencies granted permits to operate in the country have no control over distribution of relief aid received to date which they complain is too slow, if not incompetent.  They also estimate deaths to number more than 120,000 and as the situation festers and the rains come with no rice available and few left to plant a new crop, it’s going to get higher.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please do not invade SE Asia again - they don’t want your brand of democracy and you will not win even if you can raise the cash.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8211; regardless of all that anyone has to say justifiably about their treatment of minorities, their response to this natural disaster was immediate in stark contrast to what’s happening in Burma where things are going to get very very very very dire with the coming monsoons in June.</p>
<p>The Irrawaddy delta region is not pro junta hence unlikely to feature prominently in its sights.  Aid agencies granted permits to operate in the country have no control over distribution of relief aid received to date which they complain is too slow, if not incompetent.  They also estimate deaths to number more than 120,000 and as the situation festers and the rains come with no rice available and few left to plant a new crop, it’s going to get higher.</p>
<p>Please do not invade SE Asia again &#8211; they don’t want your brand of democracy and you will not win even if you can raise the cash.</p>
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		<title>By: Sachem</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/and-yet-another-mission-accomplished/#comment-1442322</link>
		<dc:creator>Sachem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The House should impeach them both after the election.  This will prevent issuing blanket pardons for the entire array of offenders.  Any further criminal action against members of this maladministration must be part of redefining who we are as a people, both to ourselves and the rest of the world. Broad support will be needed to attain the necessary incarcerations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We should fully expect Obama’s inauguration address to be a scathing denunciation of the policies of immoral stupidity that have led us to this regressive bankruptcy, all with the dirty little chimp sitting there pretending he’s not talking about him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The House should impeach them both after the election.  This will prevent issuing blanket pardons for the entire array of offenders.  Any further criminal action against members of this maladministration must be part of redefining who we are as a people, both to ourselves and the rest of the world. Broad support will be needed to attain the necessary incarcerations.</p>
<p>We should fully expect Obama’s inauguration address to be a scathing denunciation of the policies of immoral stupidity that have led us to this regressive bankruptcy, all with the dirty little chimp sitting there pretending he’s not talking about him.</p>
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		<title>By: sona</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/and-yet-another-mission-accomplished/#comment-1442289</link>
		<dc:creator>sona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In theory, yes but as I understand it, prosecutions for war crimes, including violations of the Geneva Conventions by signatories, can only be sought by sovereign governments.  I do not see a queue of such sgs lines up for the cause, regardless of very very capable prosecuting barristers, including Sands and, dare I say, Cherie Booth (Blair), who would be more than willing to participate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The ME tinpots?  Not a chance - they are more afraid than the so called ‘developed’ white boys’ club grandstanding at unrepresentative global forums.  The EU Parliament does not approve and individual member countries must heed its pronouncements, however, beyond noncompliance on providing unjustified intelligence on their citizens and getting their citizens out of Bush-Cheney gulags, they would rather not confront openly bc their primary interest is in propping up that wb club.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Countries outside the EU?  Who?  China would not like to open a Pandora’s box, Australia is complicit and part of the wb club, India smarts at not being represented adequately in global forums, Japan is too introverted unless it’s about slaughtering whales, S Korea is focused on making money for prestige, Singapore does not deal with such issues and that leaves - who?  South America?  Chavez might just have the gumption but that’s too big a stage even for him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In theory, yes but as I understand it, prosecutions for war crimes, including violations of the Geneva Conventions by signatories, can only be sought by sovereign governments.  I do not see a queue of such sgs lines up for the cause, regardless of very very capable prosecuting barristers, including Sands and, dare I say, Cherie Booth (Blair), who would be more than willing to participate.</p>
<p>The ME tinpots?  Not a chance &#8211; they are more afraid than the so called ‘developed’ white boys’ club grandstanding at unrepresentative global forums.  The EU Parliament does not approve and individual member countries must heed its pronouncements, however, beyond noncompliance on providing unjustified intelligence on their citizens and getting their citizens out of Bush-Cheney gulags, they would rather not confront openly bc their primary interest is in propping up that wb club.</p>
<p>Countries outside the EU?  Who?  China would not like to open a Pandora’s box, Australia is complicit and part of the wb club, India smarts at not being represented adequately in global forums, Japan is too introverted unless it’s about slaughtering whales, S Korea is focused on making money for prestige, Singapore does not deal with such issues and that leaves &#8211; who?  South America?  Chavez might just have the gumption but that’s too big a stage even for him.</p>
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		<title>By: karnak12</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/and-yet-another-mission-accomplished/#comment-1442253</link>
		<dc:creator>karnak12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very succinct. You’ve managed to sum up in few words the state of our nation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: JimWhite</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/and-yet-another-mission-accomplished/#comment-1442252</link>
		<dc:creator>JimWhite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why aren’t the new post notices showing up any more at the bottom of my screen?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why aren’t the new post notices showing up any more at the bottom of my screen?</p>
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		<title>By: juslin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/and-yet-another-mission-accomplished/#comment-1442250</link>
		<dc:creator>juslin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;listening to amy and watching tds….. me multi-tasking lol&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 14:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;upstairs&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/omg-its-wv-primary-day-the-most-important-primary-evah/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;OMG! It’s WV Primary Day! The Most Important Primary EVAH…&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>upstairs<br />
<a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/13/omg-its-wv-primary-day-the-most-important-primary-evah/" rel="nofollow">OMG! It’s WV Primary Day! The Most Important Primary EVAH…</a></p>
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