One of my political philosophy professors — who also happened to have helped train and run resistance operations during WWII and afterward — told me once over coffee that one of his greatest means of recruiting an asset was not at the end of gun barrel, by terrifying someone into cooperation, or by some form of bribery. It was opening their mind to the possibility of something better, something more…something new and beyond their previous imagining of their own possibilities, for themselves and, more importantly, for their families. And that the greatest weapon he wielded in doing so, first against the Nazis and then against the spread of communism, was the copies of American jazz recordings that he brought along on his travels.
Music, according to him, is the great communicator of potential change and emotional connection, even when the language and the values among the parties are so seemingly different.
Christiane Amanpour recently reported on a trip made by the New York Philharmonic to North Korea, for performances in Pyongyang. I generally love her reporting because it is so full of nuance and shades of gray, and this report was no exception. What I enjoyed most was the comparisons of the interests and lives of the people on all sides of the dividing lines — and how similar they all seemed at their core, no matter their political or personal persuasions. Some video clips from the documentary are available here, and also here, and they are worth a watch.
What will come of the New York Philharmonic’s trip to North Korea? No idea.
But it certainly is an intriguing notion in the context of my discussions with my now-deceased professor. Diplomacy is the art of opening understanding, of paving the way for further discussion by finding some common ground on which to stand…and making friends out of long-standing enemies for each side’s mutual benefit. Given the current leadership in North Korea and the United States, immediate change is not likely — but over the long term? Who knows what person sitting in the audience listening to the music might lead the thaw in frosty relations, and to a mutually beneficial relationship in our years ahead — one leading to more safety, prosperity, and peace for all concerned.
What better way to pave an opening of the heart and mind than through music. Bravo.
(YouTube clip from CNN of an intro teaser for the longer documentary report from Christiane Amanpour.)



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One of the things that helped ease tensions between the US and USSR in the 1950s was the appearance in Moscow of a young Texas kid pianist named Harvey Lavan Cliburn, whose specialty was Russian composers. The Russians adored him, and still do.
Good Morning Christy….
first thing I saw when I turned on the Teevee is a commercial for a Taser…. in pretty color choices….
(((Quaker Girl)))
Good morning. Interesting topic, someone could write a good book about the role of music across political boundaries in the 20th Century alone, from the jazz you mentioned to Beatles bootlegs in the USSR to Vaclav Havel’s fascination with the music of the Velvet Underground.
Let’s not forget that the Bush Junta likes to use music played constantly and at very high levels to
tortureinterrogate people by enhanced methods. Just a reminder of how low these jackals can go.Happy Mother’s Day Christy !
look at what that evil commie nation Venezuela has done with street children
article here
Hugs and good vibes out to Quakergirl this morning.
I talk about this very subject a lot, Christy. I teach it.
The reason the world fell in love with America in the early 20th century wasn’t Teddy Roosevelt and John Philip Sousa. It was Scott Joplin and Ragtime. It was Dixieland, and after World War I – jazz.
In the USA, once radio came, white people were able to get to know black people through listening to jazz – secretly, at first – on their new-fangled radios. Jazz, and – as old-timey evolved into country western, and roockabilly into rock-and-roll, – the blues, did as much to spread the word of America’s humanity to the entire world, as all the speeches, foreign aid, and liberating armies of the USA put together.
And the blues, being the backbone of both country-western and rock-and-roll, was one of the most important elements that brought about our civil rights movements.
There’s nothing I can think of in American culture today that has such a powerful, egalitarian image for the world, as jazz did back in the period to which Christy’s prof alluded.
(((quaker girl)))
Christy – did all those guys from (Bill Donovan? what was that guy’s name who headed the service before it became the CIA?)that service end up as professors in college. I had one too in the history department, who used to tell us stories about parachuting behind the lines in Albania. He was a big believer that Bismark was right about the Balkans.
bom dia pups
happy mother’s day
My DH’s boss, at the Anderson Center for the Performing Arts – is known for his bringing arts groups from what might be considered controversial places, in his mission to bring people together.
911 Commission –
. . .hippies !
OT
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05…..ref=slogin
Good Morning.
Just looking at your name makes me think of your great hallway line from the other night. I’m still cracking up over that. One of the all time bests!
I would so audit one of your classes !
in the unlikely event you haven’t seen this – usually broadcast at 5 am our time on saturdays -
From The Top – PBS
I’m not the originator of the line but glad it gave you a chuckle *g*
Something I have now read in two separate circumstances makes me believe that something we need to do for the people in Afghanistan and in Iraq is broadcast THEIR traditional music. One of the first things the Talban did when they took over Afghanistan was to forbid the singing of traditional Afghan songs(lots of romance, etc. in those) and destroyed any evidence of that. When the allies first came in and the Taliban took off, one of the first things people did was dig up the boxes of the records and tapes that they had hidden and start to play and broadcast them. I read an article in the NY Times this week about traditional aoud players(it’s like a large mandolin – very traditional in the Arab world). In Iraq now, the hyper-religious consider it sinful to play and sing traditional Iraqi music and have smashed the instruments. There is a player and teacher in NY city who performs and is trying to get the music out. I think our radio over there should be broadcasting the music.
And, of course, art and music have little place in the US school curricula, with exceptions from place to place. Talk about cutting off your nose!
While it is certainly true about pop and jazz, the real heavy mover is the classical repertoire. It’s extension into all other musical forms is undeniable, yet it continues to limp along.
Ah, well, better some than none.
I saw this program. I too am a fan of Christian Amanpour. It was another great from her. What an amazing story and what wonderful insights from Christy.
Good morning. Just wanted to wish all you moms at the Lake a Happy Mothers Day. Getting ready to take the Mrs. and mom-in-law and sister-in-law out to breakfast. Hope you all have a great day!
(((((SURROUNDING QUAKER GIRL WITH WARM LOVING LIGHT)))))
Christy, I thought the same thing too when I read that the NY Philharmonic was going to North Korea to perform. Music is definitely powerful on all levels.
That’s a cool site. The site’s host, Christopher O’Riley, and I once played a gig together. He’s a very articulate person when it comes to helping people understand modern music in its many guises.
OT but I’ve been waiting for a ‘Christy’ post.
Everyone here knows how valuable this site is. I even check it at work during breaks etc. I especially find it valuable when being kept informed about Congressional hearings and votes. Well, sometimes, that’s not being discussed and it’s impossible to find a live blog anywhere on the net. Would it be possible to add a new site to the list?. One for liveblogging Congress. It wouldn’t neccessarily even need much of a diary, just live blogging from those tuned in.
Just a thought I wanted to share.
gotta go, Mother’s Day is D-Day for us in the “hospitality” biz – blerrghhh
when I was young and knew everything, used to look askance and wonder about those folks in the world music aisle at Tower Records . . .not knowing I was
staring directly in to my future
Have a great day firedogs !
Great find. This report needs a lot of exposure in the US. It was a jetliner filled with young Cuban athletes that was destroyed by Bush-pardoned terrist Bosch. The positive aspects of socialism are seldom reported. Encouraging, teaching and nurturing children with music and athletics is a positive endeavor that reaps current and future benefits. Unfortunately, its also one of the first things Republicans attack and chop out of school curriculums.
{{{Christy}}} Happy Mother’s Day!!!
Happy Mother’s day to all the Firedog mothers. Hope all y’all enjoy the day.
Hey, Katymine. I seem to be out of the loop…what’s up with QuakerGirl?
FunnyDiva
From the Top is on KMFA at 1100 on Saturday, don’t get up at 5!
This has been a public service announcement!
Music is one of the things to waken the spirit of hope and also James Carse, retired NYU philosophy professor and author, points out that the poets in almost every civilization are the ones who also change hearts far ore than forcing change at the end of a gun. In his “Finite and Infinite Games,” a book you can read in about 2 hours, he will make you look at your world in a completely different light. He says if our country does not stop playing the “finite games” and begin to think “infinitely” we are doomed. See a talk he gave about this, here: http://video.google.com/videop…..5884493114
Cat In Seattle
good stuff on think progress right now;
they are forgiving a crime and admitting to a crime that many people think is more depraved and more serious then murder itself
they are condoning the torture of the citisens in a country we are TRYING to “win their hearts and minds”, they are condoing a practice that gets LESS information, they are conding the crime because the very purpose of it is to create the unrest they need that will perpetuate the war they are making so much money
Hey, Cat in Seattle
Thanks for the tip on prof Carse’s book. I’ll see if my library has it.
Nice to make your acquaintance…don’t think I’d “met” you yet.
FunnyDiva
Just North of Seattle
Morning, Perris
Thanks for the reminder–I wanted to watch that segment and the others from Friday at PBS.org
FunnyD
g’morning funny diva
am off for a drive and will be gone for a few hours on this beutiful sunday in lawn guy land new york
enjoy day all!
solai, I thing that is a great idea! I nominate nonplussed, he did a great job this past week. (mornin’ non!)
Happy Mothers’ Day Christy and all FDL Moms.
She mentioned the other day that she is in end stage leukemia and in the Hospice. So folks are trying to send her light and love.
{{{{{Quaker Girl}}}}}
Mornin’ WDD! I admit that I am always watching C-span, I started when I was hospitalized and now I just can’t stop.
Diplomacy thru music: my Russian colleagues told me they learned English in part by listening to bootleg copies of Beatles tapes, and decided we couldn’t all be monsters if we had music as great as that.
Oh, fork.
Adding her to my prayers.
FunnyD
Music is the International language. USA has so much cultural diversity that we all seek equality that enriches the individual culture. Listening to Sarah Brighton and Andrea Bocceli explore the scales warms all hearts. The Latin and African dance rythms that were introduced to our limited culture made the dance floor a more delightful place. That indirect diplomacy says so much. Language, art and Music are wonderfullly enjoyable to listen or play. How we could let an asshole from Texas create so much hatred an agony is beyond the pale.
The end of diplomacy is the birth of failure. Looking for the good rather than the bad gets more. You can catch more flies with honey than salt. If we spent 1/2 the war funds on diplomacy we would be light years ahead itr making this world what it can be (you said that your professor motivated with hope). Isn’t that Obama’s message? Think of all the Mother’s who are heart broken by what Bushco has done.
We will keep getting stronger for peace so hope Quaker Girl knows we are carrying this agenda that she has so often remarked on. her efforts are appreciated. Stop the madness with Impeachment.
Just finished Rob Tom Smith’s CHILD 44, mystery/thriller set in the late Stalin-era Soviet Union. Highly recommended. It’s not only an edge of your seat suspenseful read, but also is almost a horror novel in way it depicts life in a state where the criminal justice system has been twisted to serve the neurotic, authoritarian needs of the government.
I’ll be interested to see what the reactions to it are. It’s getting a big push as the new GORKY PARK, but it’s a very different book. It looks at the Soviet system not from an external, moralizing view, but from the vantage of what it would take to survive in a world where a neighbor’s disapproval of the smallest detail of your life could be a death sentence. Because, if the government were to admit that an accusation or confession obtained under torture was be false, then their lies might be open to scrutiny.
One of the bad outcomes of the anti-communist hysteria in America is that sight was lost of the fact that the Soviet system was evil because it did evil things. The ideology behind it was a whole separate matter.
In the interest of technical accuracy :o)
Speaking of Shades of Gray: http://youtube.com/watch?v=LtZYvgG3ajY
A kind of personal theme song: http://www.last.fm/music/Peter…..+Paintings
Some “youthful inspiration”:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LS6n2lfaP-U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related
And something I thought Lil’ Peanut might enjoy:
http://movies.yahoo.com/featur…..ndvd2.html
That program was a beautiful illustration of the importance of the arts, especially when words fail. One of my favorite definitions from the thesaurus is “Speech: A faculty given to man to conceal his thoughts” (Tallyrand).
very good, thank you.
This is a link to an NPR story about an incredible moment that happened during the NYP’s performance of “Arirang” in North Korea.
Well worth the listen.
http://www.npr.org/templates/s…..800
sorry, can’t ever seem to get my links to work.
talk about transformational – let’s not forget the Venezuelan classical music program for poor kids
quite impressive!
I love this post. Thank you Christy. And Happy Mothers Day, to you and all of you.
Yes–music can be such a great unifier! What an intuitive professor you had!
I’m sorry to hear of Quaker Girl. Prayers for her and her family.