The creepiest part of this video from the McCain campaign — and all of it is simply creepy – is that they felt it necessary to identify the (Son) and his (Mother). Probably because any casual viewer would think these two old folks were sitting around the rest home chatting about "the child" they had spawned, um, together.
The "I was born on a Friday" — "No, you were born on a Saturday" introduction is eerily reminiscent of Maurice Chevalier and Hermione Gingold as long-ago lovers recollecting sweet past times together: "you lost a glove" — "No! I lost a comb!" And yes, that revs up my creepy-dar just as I hit the GO arrow. Then the oldsters bicker over whether little Saint came during Happy Hour. Seems to me St McCain had heard that version of the story, which makes sense when you listen to (Mother) tell it anew. It wasn’t Happy Hour at all! — as if she had only heard about the twenty-seven bottles of Scotch at the Officers Club. Because (Mother) knows America doesn’t want another President whose mommy drank right up until his delivery, right?
Had enough of that.
And the next item on my creepiness scale — how often to you hear yourself referred to as "this baby" and "the child" and, then again, "this baby" when you are actually, you know, right there in the room next your mom? Wouldn’t you expect (Mother) to call her little Saint "you" or "our son?" That’s what my mom calls me, at least when I’m in the room.
But it’s great when St McCain slips into Bob Dole third-person mode: "He doesn’t pay enough attention to his mother." More illeism, please. And it’s clear Roberta gets quite enough Saint time in her life — I love the dismissive wave of the hand the video editor couldn’t quite omit.
And what masterful video editing it is!
Jumping all around, close-ups, reaction shots — they tried hard to isolate and capture only the nice things Roberta had to say about Little Saint Johnny, "the sweetest, nicest child I’ve ever known." I want to see what got left on the cutting room floor from this masterpiece.
And how was your Mothers Day?
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Hellllllooooo, “mother”.
ick.
(My Mom is cool and lovely and we had a grand day!)
g’evening teddy. that video is teh sucky
aloha, Teddy!
That video…wow…you have to pinch yourself and remember this is an actually serious candidate for the presidency.
Ick, indeed, angie!
I dislike Roberta only a tad less than I dislike OldBar.
Yuck, Teddy!
That is the creepiest f***ing thing I have seen since Gingrich’s Mom on 60 Minutes.
Thanks so much for this…
Oh, and hi Teddy!
John McCain – The Second Coming of little chicken cheer leader who lied us into a war.
I guess the mother of HIS children wouldn’t do the gig.
Hi angie! So glad you and your mom had a swell day.
Hello dear Suzanne and egregious. The video is quite beyond the pale, isn’t it?
Aloha, CT!
Hi LL!
Hiya newt!
Hi Matt!
Happy Mothers Day to all you moms and muthas.
Hey there ES.
Evening, Teddy. That indeed has an ick rating of about 11 out of 10, but then that is my general reaction to McCrazy MagicPonies.
It just makes me think of the Bates Motel, Dr (pause) Dick.
i think he did not want the woman he dumped appearing in her wheelchair…
I think Obama’s campaign should offer to pay for it’s broadcast every day in every city.
Didn’t get out much, did she?
Loo Hoo!
Welcome.
Any help you need…
Please pardon my manners, Teddy. You know I DIGG you!
Teddy!!!!
How is you?! How is Bagdad-By-The-Bay this evening???
McCain was sucky in that video. Wonder what his mother taught him about lies.
Evening Teddy. Hi y’all.
So we’re supposed to vote for an old man who can’t keep track of what day of the week he was born. Ummmm. NO!
dugg ya teddy
Oh right, TWO mothers and the non white foster child.
Done did it already, ES! ;-)
Well that explains a lot.
I be pissed for the rest of my life if I were referred to as “this child”…
In my culture, its f…… rude to refer to a person present in the third person.
LOL.
Or at all, I would say.
And I’m a monkey’s aunt, LS.
Oh, are these people for real?
Hi Teddy, hello Pups!
Ya didn’t buy a Mac, didya…? ;-)
she was asking for newton and not nahant….
Howdy Uncle Loo Hoo.
Yes!!!
Guess what? I bought a MAC!!!
Nahant just got terrible indigestion.
Congrats!
Traitor…! ;-)
It makes me wonder what Ma called Saint in the parts of the video that got cut.
And lots & lots got cut, you can tell….
another pc bites the dust
I’m creeped out by almost all of John McCain’s personal interactions with his family. In this video McCain and his mother hold eye contact with each other only at the very beginning of the video. Then he looks at her but she never looks at him again, even when she is responding to his comment.
Very good point.
Welcome to the tribe, dear.
Once you’re Mac, you never go back.
Until you can’t afford to replace it!
*groan*
Hi Christine! I want to say hello to everypup since I’ve been able to connect. It was desperado, folks!
Let’s face it. The not so silent majority will LOVE this. Self-effacing, polite to Mama who is a generation ahead so it makes him seem younger… “this child” lets her do ALL the talking.
Enjoyed your article and the comments about the deliciously intriguing subtext and body language (alcohol stuff, third person) but that is to be savored by the choir.
I tell you, undecideds will lap this up. And the whiff of dysfunction? Helps his appeal.
WHERE IS THAT APPLE PIE?????
heh!
She’s a beauty.
Nooo… I don’t wanna hear the gruesome details…! ;-)
Still hanging onto my Dell, but I’ve been lucky to connect almost always. That is what college students returning home are for, I’ve found!
here it is.. as you can see, the price has gone up
BTW, folks where’s our manners, we’ve some delurkers present! Aloha!
Suzanne, I have to teach you where to shop for desserts!
Uh, Suz
entrance, please?
;~P
then i can go nighty-nite.
*sigh* just one more thang i’m a failure at (/snark)
oh, and don’t forget the reverse
;~P
what position would you like me to present drbong?
That doesn’t even remotely resemble my pathetic attempts, Suz! ;-)
*boing boing* reverse three-and-a-half somersaults, tuck, no splash (’natch)
chrisc and libbyliberal (have I left anyone out?) WELCOME.
*polite, but boisterous golf-applause*
that’s better
nite y’all
*drying off* ftfbj
oh, that as from a 3m board, right?
*was*
don’t push it dr bong…. its forking 51 degrees here (laughing)
Ya know that Bulgarian is still a pain in the arse, Suz! ;-)
Well, I can’t wait to get on this Mac. My girls are setting it up for me for Mom’s day.
see my 62
That’s sweet.
Did they pay as well?
I really don’t like any Republicans at all anymore.
(used to tolerate some, now none.)
((just fyi.))
Thanks TSF.
mac
schmac
;~P
Yes’M, that I did…!
heh
Dear heavens, CTuttle. I’ve been so excited about getting online, I missed our new friends.
Welcome new folks!
Absolutely! And happy mothers day, sojourners
… although
whilst trying to “network” my new desktop with my old one… pc’s just don’t seem to want to “communicate”
need a software dr.
Me too, angie, includes in-laws unfortunately. But I still love to visit, just have to travel very, very carefully and protect myself.
BTW, Suz, I did enjoy your selection for today on your site…! ;-)
Don’t forget we have GOPs among us, dear.
Moles in the turdpile, if you will…
Born in 1936…here’s what happened in 1936.
Billboard magazine publishes its first pop music charts. Baseball Hall of Fame is founded. The first stock car race is held in Daytona Beach, Florida. The Green Hornet radio show debuts. Porky Pig premieres. Baby Snooks, played by Fanny Brice, debuts on the radio program The Ziegfeld Follies of the Air. Hoover Dam is completed.
Gone with the Wind by Margaret Mitchell published. The first edition of Life is published.
Edward VIII becomes King of the United Kingdom, later that year abdicates. The RMS Queen Mary begins her maiden voyage. Triborough Bridge in New York City is opened to traffic. In California, the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge opens to traffic. The United Auto Workers union stages its first sit-down strike.
Elections bring the Popular Front to power in Spain. Spanish Civil War; Francisco Franco is named head of the Nationalist government of Spain. First flight of fighter airplane Spitfire Type 300. Germany reoccupies the Rhineland. Italian troops occupy Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.
Richard Bruno Hauptmann is executed for the kidnapping and death of Charles Augustus Lindbergh III. Rainey Bethea is hanged in Owensboro, Kentucky in the last public execution in the United States
The last surviving member of the thylacine species, Benjamin, dies alone in his cage at the Hobart Zoo in Tasmania.
omg he’s as old as the Bay Bridge!
No. Set up is the gift, although Chryssa brought me sunflowers and Jossie brought a card…
Happy Mothers’ Day, Teddy…..and thanks for this great post!
theodore!
Uh-oh, what was considered pop music in ‘36, dare I ask…?
thanks, ct – i did respond but i musta just missed ya
How to tell when McCain is ‘done’?
http://www.woot.com/
dare you to look here
What’s up, Doc?
Jeeze, my dad was born in ‘36; he looks soooooo much better than McSame.
But then everyone does. :)
You know, I still have friends/coworkers who voted for Bush in 2000. There was NO EXCUSE in 2004, and I basically avoid those people. I feel kinda bad, and maybe I’ll be able to get with them in the future, but I don’t know. It was a pretty basic stance to take, voting for Bush/Cheney in 2004.
ya all done raising a ruckus doc?
Loo Hoo, count yourself lucky. The evil teen in this house spent all his (MY!) money on himself this weekend. No card. No gift. Nothin!
His best friend helped me by washing a load of dishes.
******horrors******
(i guess this is the model of democracy, unlike some other places I have visited.)
I really am so dismayed by them, ’cause I did respect some conservative’s views.
I would like honest and just discourse, but can’t seem to find it at all betwixt the parties anymore.
sad.
I say send almost all of them and a few dems to the corner for a prolonged time out.
CT, life here is good….just back from a week at Ruckus Camp on the Sonoma Coast.
How’s life in the Isles?
Please explicky Schmak!! *g*
gruel and more gruel is in texteen’s future
;-)
But the sad thing is, Dad will most likely vote for him :-(
Can’t wait to see what McCainiac has in store for Father’s Day….
Thin gruel. Very thin gruel. With dry, hard, moldy crusts. Creamed worms if he is lucky.
and triple chores! and no rides to school!
Oh Tex, that is just not right.
Wow….((((Betsy))))
Is it OK if I observe the evil teen was a real wanker?
And he knows how I feel about these holidays. :(
uphill, both ways in 10′ of snow with newspapers stuffed in the soles of his shoes
Betsy, may we make up for TexTeen’s transgression by wishing you a very happy Mothers’ Day?
You rawk!
this campaign hasn’t started –well, it has, but you knpw what I mean — and I’m creeped out already. This is gonna be a creepy campaign.
SHOES?? No way! Teeny tiny girl sandals with flowers on them!
Thanks LL.
Happy Mothers’ Day, Betsy!
& happy day to all the moms. hope you all (that’s you. all. not you all as in, like y’all) had a great day.
pull a sherrif joe and dye all his underroos pink
Wow, a lot of Irving Berlin and Cole Porter tunes, and this Ledbetter classic…!
Happy Mother’s Day, Betsy!
hate to tell you this, but they’re already mostly black.
so dye his outerroos all pink
that’s funny!!!!! a maverick up your ass. hahahahahahahahaha
I’m guessin’ I wish I had one…
Thanks y’all!
LOL!
*gah* that’s worse than any punishment I’ve endured…!
I gotta run for now, Mama-san wants her Surf-n-Turf dinner… Steak and shrimp with garlic taters…! ;-)
i’ve turned into my mother
(sigh)
Oh, Suz… nice “belated” entrance, no wake
beijing?
;~P
Oh TexBetsy :(, but we love you…:)
My better half turned into her mother years ago
not a bad thing
kinda
If any of them show even the slightest regret, you must pounce.
They have a chance to redeem themselves: don’t vote for a third Bush term!
i had that helpful nag :)
…especially since he’s outlived his father’s lifespan. Probably doesn’t want folks to notice that, though. Hmmmm, do McCain Men live short lives?
Dyeing the socks pink, that would be great.;) Hugs Betsy!
I spent years of no Mother’s Day stuff. He will get around to it once he matures. Not to worry.
Among other things. ;-)
This was my mother’s day card two years ago, after I complained for 3 days. He is a serial forgetterer.
wonder if he would notice if you forgot his birthday, tex
And Christmas/Hanukkah.
I’m so lucky — it isn’t the cards and presents, it is the visits to grandparents in faraway states, for no reason. It is the phone calls to same to check up on them. And most wonderfully, the siblings who travel across the US to help them move to a new state, and celebrate graduations. THAT is what Mother’s Day is all about, in my opinion. I adore them.
June 4
25
Mrs Bong puts up w/me
*applause*
for Mrs. Bong, of course
kewl!
Dear gawd in heaven. What do you mean?
i hear my mother’s words come out of my mouth – words i swore i would never say.
I have the best children in the world.
Has anyone seen this creepy McCain Mother’s Day teevee commercial broadcast on teevee? I have not.
whoa, Teddy that rox!!!!
Night all. I am off to bed. Need to rest up so I can abuse another student tomorrow. He is defending his MA thesis, which I read today. Shakespeare he ain’t, but not too bad.
Use your head for something besides a hatrack…
*poof*
That didn’t make any sense… but I love her like there ain’t not tomorrow.
*poof*
Happy Mothers’ Day to all you cool Mommas, TexBetsy to you especially.
Betsy, I’m so looking forward to meeting in June at eCahn’s gathering.
Do you know your plans yet on how to get to eCahn’s place?
From an earlier thread I suggested the Dem. campaign highlight one or two
atrocities from the past seven years at intervals of a week or so. I think voters
would be overloaded if they were hit with the full range of criminal
behavior from BushCo, that will be continued by McCain. Give the voters
small slices to digest and then dish them the next serving. I think it
won’t take them too long to realize how much their beloved leaders
fouled up.
my dad was born in 23 … he LOOKs better than McCain
g’nite dr (pause) dick
Night, DD.
sorry ma’am
{{ betsy }}
Be gentle, Dr. Dick, please.
Hmm, that is going back a few years, isn’t it.
Maybe McCain looks better in person than he does on teevee. No, Prolly not. /s
Not quite sure how I am getting up there. Thought I’d bring the whole family, but they don’t want to drive that far. So … bus probably. But have never done those kinds of buses with a wheelchair.
Sleep well Dr D.
I promise not to leave any lasting marks, though I owe him a bit of grief since he set this up rather at the last minute.
He looks like the undead, sorry.
too many dr’s at the lake imho
;~P
Remember, dear, the librarians help with the cleaning up…
If you take the Hudson Line from GCT, I may be able to help you. We’ll
work something out with eCahn and scheduling. I’ve never taken the bus.
I take the train all the time and it’s a pretty good ride.
Nah, he was down here in the ninth ward a few weeks ago, he looks worse… although I couldn’t get too close…
I believe you. You’ve actually seen him in the (decaying) flesh?
I might be the odd man out, though
lordy, NO!
G’nite, Dr D.
but only one bong
McThusula’s momma must be so proud…
My dad is turning 80 in September…he is in excellent health…far better shape than McCain, and I would actually support him for president (he’s nowhere next door to running). McCain is toast. It’s beyond his ability to handle his campaign, much less the presidency. Let’s let this poor guy just retire.
Come on, now, Suz. You know that wasn’t directed at you!
CNN reprts that Hill and Barack are now tied (in superdelegates).
Train will be much easier with the chair. Can you email me details? tex betsy at g mail
My dad walks like 5 miles every day and is really healthy and pretty sharp, but he’s slowed down a lot. I got him a adjunct position in his 70s at my college, he was great, but I can’t say I’d trust him to make major decisions quickly.
Well, there’s one thing I can be proud of…
the creep factor was that “heeheehee” laugh at the end that reminded me of Bush…… just what this country needs another hyena
*Not!*
zackly.
It’s like when Jon Stewart goes “heh heh heh”
Very shrub-ery
How bout the chuckle in the middle?
they really don’t look comfy being in the same room yanno.
WHAT I really love is that everyone is finally telling ALL about my Senator, something I have tried to do since 2000….. just keep digging…. there is a gold mine in them thar hills ….
True. I was just saying in comparison to McCain that my 80 year old dad would be far and away better. I’m guessing your dad would be too.
Stewart gave McCain great PR on TDS, last Wednesday. Stewart did not even try to reveal any of mcCain’s bad voting record, flip flops, ill-conceived ideas, blunders, lies, ridiculous economic policy, etc.
McCain appeared to be a likeable and reasonable guy (which he is not). Not good on Stewart’s part. Your thoughts?
Ha HA!
Good night friends. Need to plot evil in my sleep.
the creepiest thing about this ad?
Its the reaction to it here. The Democratic “presumptive nominee” is tanking with seniors who hear all this talk about a “new coalition” and “new voters” and think “what about us?” — or hear that Obama is the “change” candidate but have lived through change and prefer “stability” to “change”.
And McCain is going right for them with this ad, and doing so effectively. Moreover, the ad sends the message that people don’t have to worry about McCain’s age — his mom is still smart as a whip.
Its a good ad that will work with its target audience… and that’s not creepy. But it is scary that Democrats are making “old people jokes” when their “presumptive nominee” already has enough problems with older voters.
ChristineEdmonson, thanks for the hospitality! Love this site… the perspectives, humor AND the look and ease of it.
I thought Jon Stewart asked McCain tough questions when he was on TDS. But JS arm-wrestled him, maybe hugged him (?), and told him he “loved him, man” (I think or am I dreaming that?) And they say BODY LANGUAGE says what great percentage (?) MORE than the power of the spoken word. I thought to myself, Jon, you said the right words, asked the right questions, but your affection sold him to many I am sure. I appreciate Colbert has never had him on the show out of principle.
I thought of Oprah’s having both Bush and then Gore on and Bush’s down to earthness garnered him a lot of votes in 2000. I tell you, Body Language not words. And God, does the camera love the conscienceless narcissists and sociopaths. Ollie North was a villain until the camera showed the handsome, ingenuous, guilt-free (oy vey) appeal. The camera loves style over substance a hundredfold. These guys could pass a lie detector test they are so amoral. The camera loves that exceptional calm. No normal twitchiness and nervousness.
Getting the public to vote counterintuitively against the CHARM of McCain who is fast on his feet and self deprecating, and edgey with the aggression and the anger, so that you savor the gentle moments and humor, like above video, and a man’s man, … They will embrace all this despite the VAST evidence of McCain’s hypocrisy and the continuation of Bush’s amoral profiteering. I mean, the msm press isn’t even prioritizing what they should be priotizing about McCain… what chance have we got with those still fogged in to the true source of our domestic and international HORRORS?
Will work on my conciseness next time, I promise.
wishing ya pain free plotting while sleeping
well, i know my dad never had anger issues or temper tantrums …that ALONE, scares the living daylights out of me …
Stewart knew what he was doing. If McCain could possibly have been presented in a possible light, it would have been.
i apologize that i did not properly welcome you upthread, libbyliberal. welcome!
oy, I’m exhausted … trying to get final grades in … I can’t wait for summer break! G’nite!
Stewart has a comedy program. Think of whose election might be better for Stewart.
hmmm
g’nite dakinikat
I’m conflicted. Such gtentle interviews by Jon Stewart build up his mainstream credibility, so that when he comes down it carries great weight. But, meantime, it gives a measure of leftwing credence to some very slimy people.
I’m a man’s man
Can I be preznit?
Yeah, because Late Nite FDL is such a serious forum for Democratic thought and discourse.
Not.
Dude, jokes are jokes. Chill.
It was fun. We ended up in our local red sauce restaurant eating italian food.
Also, Jeremy Northam, who I have a terrific crush on, has two new movies coing out, so I’m a happy mom.
coming. scuse.
Right!
Obama supporters ought to be making jokes about racial unelectability. That’s a sound strategy.
Get a sense of humor please.
You make valid points. Ted Bundy comes to mind. He was a charming Republican.
Jeremy Northam,
Mr. Knightly… sigh.
I got An Ideal Husband over the weekend.
Yum.
I have a new “sigh” man now – Ironman! Robert Downey Jr has come roaring back and oh baby is he hot!
*is this where i am supposed to disclose that i am a republican*
Hey, love it!
Thanks, Suzanne! I am stunned by the cordiality here. ty! I have been posting comments for a short time on the web feeling anonymous and unread. What a rush!
One more thing… Hillary WPOST announced is $20 million in debt with her campaign. Now, why would she think we would entrust her with the ECONOMY? Am I missing something?
Great to be with you all.
Have a good night. I’m beat.
TexBetsy, ygm.
how was class sat morning julia?
Sexiest Jeremy Northam movie for me… THE WINSLOW BOY. great movie. Sigh
nope. i replied!
here’s the link
i foresee a bitchfest
just kidding
libbyliberal
water’s oh, so fine
swim
and mingle
g’nite pat9
Bitchfest over Jeremy or Hillary??? okay… finally signing off. ty!!!
g’nite libbyliberal
Good. I found out what’s been going wrong with my latkes. I’ve been using the mozzarella side of the grater to grate my potatoes. You’re supposed to use the parmesan side.
My kid’s school is turning out to be quite an education for me.
Here it’s 10 til midnight, I’m pecking away, Mrs. Bong in the bed, wondering if I’ll show up soon…
best go nitey nite
i know what’s good for me
oops
I remember that now. Can’t figure out why UR still Republican.
We need a spy. She gets all the GOP election mail and tells us about it.
We laugh.
Nothing wrong with Republicans.
It’s the radical whack-jobs who have stripped the party for parts that are the problem.
i’m a spy
I have to get that next, although I’m jonesing for the Lewis and Martin movie, which apparently no-one has released on DVD.
I understand he has some interesting scenes in The Tribe, though.
The two movies I hear are in production star Peter O’Toole and Sam Neill and *Alan Rickman* respectively, so I’m all aquiver.
We love new friends!
Weird scenes inside the goldmine.
what’s next week’s lesson?
Heading off to bed…… have to get up early for my flight to NYC….
Nite everyone…
Hey, there. Welcome.
g’nite katymine
nite katymine
I may have to work, which will really make me mad, because next week’s class is listed in the syllabus (by the parent who’s teaching it) as “Ghetto food”
I have been dying since September to find out what he’s going to cook.
For those folks who haven’t been following this on Fridays, the parents and teachers at my kid’s school have been teaching classes in how to cook the food of their culture on Saturdays. If I learn nothing else valuable this year, I now know how to make sashimi handrolls korean style.
Cool! Suz is up!
Late Late Nite FDL: Apolitical Blues
Maybe Hillary’s tapped out from buying super delegates’ votes. There was a guy on Yahoo News selling his vote for $2 million.
Nope.
$20 million.
I did welcome ya a while ago, there is no other place like the Lake, as I would say here in the Isles, we’re all ohana! :-)
My bad. 20 million is right. That’s how much Hillary is in the hole. /s
Just peeked back in and appreciate the comments. Thanks again for acknowledgement Hackworth, Julia, ChristineE, Suzanne, CTuttle (doubly), Dr. Bong, LooHoo…. et al.
I feel like Rick at the end of Casa Blanca. “FDL, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship!”
Hoping y’all have dreams about flag lapel pins changing to “I’m heartsick I voted for Bush twice” ones.
:)
Oh dear Teddy – if ever there were a perfect 10 post on Mothers Day in this historic or any election year – you’ve nailed this unworthy candidate for the White House exquisitely. Bravo!
mrbrat and I took to our bed with dinner trays before sunset the minute one of our son’s in law and two daughters headed back to their homes following their sweet weekend visit with us this holiday weekend.
This may or may not be news here at latenite but I just heard a “breaking news” item on CNN reporting Obama has caught up with Hill’s super-delegate count this evening. Gosh, isn’t it now obvious she needs to stand down and move on?
(((((Teddy)))))
I just got done watching “American Gangster,” featuring Denzel Washington as the
undertandably evil black guy vs. Russel Crowe as the righteous Jewish white guy. Afterward, I said what I had to say, and my wife is no longer speaking to me.
Wonderful to see you at the lake anytime! ;~)
Obama Promoting Coal — And Concern For Rural Voters — In New Kentucky Ad here
There is no such thing as clean coal!!! Coal is carbon, and extracting energy from coal requires oxidizing it to Carbon dioxide. That all you can do. There may be way to ultimately take CO2 out of our air, but nobody has been able to do that profitably so far.
Somebody better figure it out, then.
As Leo McGarry said, “Coal is what we got.”
Bluntly, coal is what we’ve got more of than the rest of the world has. But, we’ve got lots of uranium, thorium, productive land for biomass, oil shale, and methane hydrdate. We ain’t hurting for alternatives to coal.
Great. That’s why “Somebody better figure it out, then.”
We used to do things in this country. New things, clever things, startlingly inventive things.
We now do what we’ve done (coal), probably because we know how. We new to teach ourselves some new things.
Alternatives to coal, that’s cool. Where are the research dollars, and the scientific “can-do” initiative in a Nation where science is increasingly marginalized?
That is also something somebody better figure out.
Hey Newt,
My major hope is for Thorium, which is being explored by the Norweigans and Indians. There seems to be a lot of logic behind it, but it is only one of many alternative to coal.
I’m going upstairs. See you up there.
Wigwam
ty! :)