Washington Times editor* Robert Stacy McCain defends meek trembling KBR/Halliburton from the greedy advances of Jamie Leigh Jones:
I don't think she's doing the lawsuit to get rich. Her lawyer, yes; herself, no. She'll get hers from the book deal and the movie rights. Excuse my extreme cyncism, but Jamie Leigh Jones' story has got "NYT bestseller/Oscar-winning movie" written all over it.
Gang rape is a crime, and the perpetrators should be punished, but Halliburton didn't rape Jamie Leigh Jones.
Halliburton hired Jones, and also apparently hired her rapists, but gang-rape was not any part of Halliburton's policy. They're in the engineering services business, not the rape business. They don't make a profit from rape, and yet somehow are being held financially liable for the criminal conduct of the persons unknown accused of raping Jones.
So, you know, a few bad apples who happen to work for KBR gang-rape Jones, and it all kind of ends there.
Jamie Leigh Jones, now 22, says that after she was raped by multiple men at a KBR camp in the Green Zone, the company put her under guard in a shipping container with a bed and warned her that if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she'd be out of a job.
"Don't plan on working back in Iraq. There won't be a position here, and there won't be a position in Houston," Jones says she was told.
In a lawsuit filed in federal court against Halliburton and its then-subsidiary KBR, Jones says she was held in the shipping container for at least 24 hours without food or water by KBR, which posted armed security guards outside her door, who would not let her leave. Jones described the container as sparely furnished with a bed, table and lamp.
"It felt like prison," says Jones, who told her story to ABC News as part of an upcoming "20/20" investigation. "I was upset; I was curled up in a ball on the bed; I just could not believe what had happened."
Finally, Jones says, she convinced a sympathetic guard to loan her a cell phone so she could call her father in Texas.
"I said, 'Dad, I've been raped. I don't know what to do. I'm in this container, and I'm not able to leave,'" she said. Her father called their congressman, Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas.
"We contacted the State Department first," Poe told ABCNews.com, "and told them of the urgency of rescuing an American citizen" -- from her American employer.
Poe says his office contacted the State Department, which quickly dispatched agents from the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad to Jones' camp, where they rescued her from the container.
According to her lawsuit, Jones was raped by "several attackers who first drugged her, then repeatedly raped and injured her, both physically and emotionally."
Jones told ABCNews.com that an examination by Army doctors showed she had been raped "both vaginally and anally," but that the rape kit disappeared after it was handed over to KBR security officers.
Okay, so it was a whole bushel of bad apples who happened to work for KBR who chose to, if not participate in the rape, cover it up just like any responsible corporate employee would.
The Washington Times newsroom must have a fascinating work atmosphere.
After expressing his deepest sympathies to Jones, McCain rolls out the usual suspect logic:
In other words, it's like the "hostile environment" aspect of sexual harassment case law, the Catch-22 of equal rights. On the one hand, if KBR had refused to hire a woman for Iraq contractor employment, they'd have been guilty of illegal discrimination. On the other hand, they send a 20-year-old blonde into a male-dominated work environment in the middle of a war zone and she gets raped, and the corporation is held liable for the crime.
Did the board of the directors approve a "boys will be boys" directive for KBR's Iraq barracks? Which vice-president of KBR signed off on the memeorandum that "created" that "atmosphere"? But the lawyers for Jones know that the jury that hears the case won't think logically. Instead, the jurors will decide that KBR is rich, and the plaintiff is poor, and something bad happened, therefore the company should shell out millions of dollars -- and the tort lawyer will buy himself a new houseboat.
Tort lawyers! Sexual harassment laws made them do it! Working while blond!
The bitch obviously had it coming.
Then, for you statistics freaks, comes this - "the law of large numbers":
Given that such fraternization was permitted, the law of large numbers would suggest that among the thousands of men working for KBR in Iraq, some few would be willing to participate in a gang-rape. (She says she was drugged; claims of being dosed with "date-rape drugs" mysteriously proliferate in the era of Jello shots. Note that Jones was below the legal U.S. drinking age at the time of this incident. Don't 20-year-olds ever get just plain-old drunk anymore? What did gang-rapists do before the discovery of Rohypnol?)
I assume that the "law of large numbers" must involve more than a lacrosse team but less than a nation. Somewhere in there, give or take.
Finally McCain invokes the McDonalds coffee lawsuit-excuse for opposing legal remedies for corporate irresponsibility:
In its own way, this is a legal abuse as bad as the McDonald's coffee lawsuit.
Fail.
During discovery, McDonalds produced documents showing more than 700
claims by people burned by its coffee between 1982 and 1992. Some claims involved third-degree burns substantially similar to Liebecks. This history documented McDonalds' knowledge about the extent and nature of this hazard.McDonalds also said during discovery that, based on a consultants advice, it held its coffee at between 180 and 190 degrees fahrenheit to maintain optimum taste. He admitted that he had not evaluated the
safety ramifications at this temperature. Other establishments sell
coffee at substantially lower temperatures, and coffee served at home is
generally 135 to 140 degrees.Further, McDonalds' quality assurance manager testified that the company
actively enforces a requirement that coffee be held in the pot at 185
degrees, plus or minus five degrees. He also testified that a burn
hazard exists with any food substance served at 140 degrees or above,
and that McDonalds coffee, at the temperature at which it was poured
into styrofoam cups, was not fit for consumption because it would burn
the mouth and throat. The quality assurance manager admitted that burns
would occur, but testified that McDonalds had no intention of reducing
the "holding temperature" of its coffee.Plaintiffs' expert, a scholar in thermodynamics applied to human skin
burns, testified that liquids, at 180 degrees, will cause a full
thickness burn to human skin in two to seven seconds. Other testimony
showed that as the temperature decreases toward 155 degrees, the extent
of the burn relative to that temperature decreases exponentially. Thus,
if Liebeck's spill had involved coffee at 155 degrees, the liquid would
have cooled and given her time to avoid a serious burn.McDonalds asserted that customers buy coffee on their way to work or
home, intending to consume it there. However, the company's own research showed that customers intend to consume the coffee immediately while driving.
Quite frankly I had no idea how much McCain missed Right Wing Howler's "raunchy cartoons and the infamous "Chick of the Week" feature." For John Stacy, the Jones case must be be like a sweet hit of heroin after so many years without...
*Apparently Mr. McCain resigned from the Washington Times in January. My apologies as well as congratulations to the Times.
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And McCain has first hand experience with blonds so he knows how immoral they can be.
Wrong McCain.
I normally don’t advocate violence against another human being, but this asshole deserves a beating.
The whole goddamned regime of Bush is corrupt and criminal, including the idiot defenders who work for fucked up cult leaders.
Blame the Victim does McCain want to push all the Hilary voters to Obama. Also I’m guessing women work on lots of engineering jobs in foreign countries where they shoot at Americans.
Never ming Hal or KBR they are above the law thanks to Darth. Does this shit happen on other engineering jobs by other American companies and when it does, does the company hold the victim prisoner, drug her and then lose the rape kit with no repercussions?
Also F blame the victim Hal and KBR are American companies operating in Iraq that means Condi decides if they get contracts to work in Iraq.
This Blackwater is the only firm that can do the job is bull just give another bunch of Mercs Blackwaters gear after all it was paid for by the tax payers and Blackwater can’t fulfill its contract.
Same goes for Hal and KBR there are other firms so send these guys home without pay. In the real world any other company would have lost the contract.
“Why don’t you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?”
Give ‘em enough rope and this pick-up line works every time.
I don’t think she’s doing the lawsuit to get rich. Her lawyer, yes; herself, no. She’ll get hers from the book deal and the movie rights. Excuse my extreme cyncism, but Jamie Leigh Jones’ story has got “NYT bestseller/Oscar-winning movie” written all over it.
Well, of course. Any twenty-year-old blonde who decides she wants to work with a bunch of men in a place where, really now, only men should be working (except whores because guys gotta have some fun) is just looking for a way to get rich from book and movie rights. By getting drugged, gang-raped, locked up in a prison-like environment and told that seeking competent medical care would result in her never working again.
And this doofus is afraid a jury won’t see it that way? Somebody please shoot me. Now.
Though really, they have similar backgrounds, so I can see how they’d be confused.
“On the one hand, if KBR had refused to hire a woman for Iraq contractor employment, they’d have been guilty of illegal discrimination. On the other hand, they send a 20-year-old blonde into a male-dominated work environment in the middle of a war zone and she gets raped, and the corporation is held liable for the crime.”
Right, cause there are clearly only two possible outcomes here. It goes without saying that the 20 yr old blond is going to get raped, but whats a poor multinational corporation to do? Not hire criminals? Who else would work so cheaply under such dangerous conditions?
I think editor McCain should spend some quality time in Iraq for himself.
Geez. Wonder if Halliburton/KBR helped out with security at Jenna n’ Henry’s wedding in Crawford yesterday?
And if they used condoms?
:wave: Halliburton! Case law (repeatedly) tells you that, surPRISE! You, as a corporate citizen are indeed responsible for what your employees do!
I intend to sue McCain and the Washington Times for injuries sustained when my jaw hit the floor as I read that piece. Certainly, it was forseeable that a reasonable, prudent person would find those statements astonishing offensive.
…So offensive, in fact, that the “ly” fell of my “astonishing”.
Poor poor shareholders! *gasp* And all they wanted to do was make a profit by investing in patently evil cocksuckers! And now this obviously whorish malcontent will punish them unjustly, making poor Milton Friedman weep from his pillowy perch next to Jesus and Ayn Rand.
Also, Mr. McCain seems to be made entirely of prick.
Responsible? Modern conservatives think that just for the suckers.
By the way, he is no longer with the Washington Times, and he never said the bitch was asking for it, so your entire critique is wrong, wrong, wrong. He did say she’s suing to get a book deal, so he’s a vile creep just the same.
Just imagine what this conservative ignoramus would do if a police car put a dent in his car’s bumper: SUE THE POLICE!!
And he would self-righteously hang on to his winnings from the public treasury, because of the extremely deeply-rooted American legal precept of vicarious responsibility, under which employers are liable for actions of their employees, even when rape is not company policy, but covering it up is actively pursued by the rapists’ superiors.
Poor conservatives. Condemned to the cruel life of ignorance.
It’s very possible that I am about to become physically ill.
It may be a crime here, but perhaps not in the legal black hole that is US Contractors working in Iraq. IANAL, and things may have changed legally over the last couple of years, but as I understand it . . .
They’re not subject to US law, because Iraq is not US territory.
They’re not subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, because they aren’t officially members of the US military.
They’re not subject to Iraqi law, because the US Coalition Provisional Authority forced the Iraqis to grant US contractors immunity from Iraqi law.
Kind of makes it hard to charge them with a crime, even if you have the evidence to back it up.
A civil lawsuit, however, seems to have gotten someone’s attention.
I always wanted to live in a shipping container. It sounds cozy.
Read that whole thing and finally realized that the McCain wasn’t John boy McBush….. with his views on women…. don’t think his views would be very different…..
Those might be the Park Avenue condos…. were we just get a area in tent city…
“Rustic” is another word that comes to mind
(In realtor-speak, this means “no running water.”)
The passive construction is the kicker: she didn’t “get raped,” men raped her. KBR employees, by the sound of it. And, you know, I wonder how he’d feel if it had been his daughter, sister, or mother. This infuriates me.
We need to ban KBR, Hal and Blackwater from anymore government contracts and that includes any company that hires a top executive or board member from these firms.
Heck their lobbyist should be banned Persona Non Grata!
It should. Let’s start the punitive damages at, say, a cool billion and see where we go from there.
That or war crimes after all who said a war crimes trial can’t be held by an American who is the victim of an American corporation especially if there is no other legal remedy?
After all we can’t expect American justice to be fair in a trial that would affect Darth’s stock now can we?
What I’m always astonished at (okay I’m not astonished anymore) is the continued support of lawlessness. As Peterr points out in 17, if there was some law that they COULD use they would. My understanding is that ARBITRATION is her only choice.
And I’m also sick of the, “She’ll make money on the book deal.” crap. Or “she’ll make money suing the corporation” crap. If you bothered to ask her if she was willing to be gang raped for a potential big payday somewhere off in the future I think that she would opt to NOT be gang raped. But of course for the neo cons at the MONEY LOSING Washington Times it’s all about the money.
Since they are willing to write disgusting things for money, they think that everyone else is willing to do horrible things for the chance at a big pay day.
I also find it interesting to see how they LOVE to throw the use of the legal system back at the people who NEED to use it to deal with an injustice. One of the few ways we can have any power, and they want to deny that to us. So they bring out the cases that are (in their opinion) abusive.
But they never bother to tell you that the group who uses the legal system the most to punish and control others is the Corporations. THEY use it ALL the time on other corporations or people that they want to silence, tie up or to suppress information.
Update at Robert McCain’s site:
Update in EvilDrPuma’s mind:
I wonder if Darth is liable personally since we all know he protects KBR and Hal. Evidence of such protection is that they both still have government contracts despite doing things that would get your contract terminated in the real world.
Non performance of duties (how many Iraqi reconstruction projects are done), over charging for fuel food everything, certainly bringing in a job over budget in the real world means the contractor eats the costs it does not mean you rake THE TAX PAYERS MORE! (we so own taxes as an issue if we want to).
We need both Democrats to say in a debate that they would make any company guilty of cheating America on Iraq war contracts pay us back with real market rates interests and damages.
but certainly covered up!
Here’s another gem, from the end of the piece:
Yes, employees sometimes sue their employers, and people sometimes complain about the job market. Therefore, both groups are hypocritical. Nice logic, Bob.
Is this the KBR/Halliburton blond who was raped so hard her breasts were ripped from her rib cage and she had to have reconstructive surgery to fix them? If not, then it’s the other one. Spit.
KBR/Halliburton is indeed in the rape business. Not only are they raping Americans from their money and doing shoddy work to boot, but they aren’t protecting the women who work for them, because they enjoy rape. Rape is what men do after they’ve had a long hard day of building, scratching their lemon drops, and acting all tough and shit.
Spit.
KBR, Blackwater and Hal keep their Iraq war contracts because they are the only ones who can do the job. Yet Iraqi reconstruction is a joke and the Iraqi government wants Blackwater for shooting civilians.
So I’m wondering just how bad can Blackwater, Hal, and KBR’s replacements be?
Holy Crap with details like that Nancy Grace should be all over this story or does missing white woman coverage end in Iraq?
Heck KO should be all over this!
It was Jamie Lynn Curtis. I bet the House republics watching her speak were sexually turned on by her…no different then when they had to hear every detail of Monica & Bill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2WyitSWa0Y
Exactly! Here’s the link stating she had her breasts ripped away from her rib cage:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/....._1220.html
EvilDrPuma speaks for me.
This is Horrible if it bleeds it leads is well sick but true of the news business the MSM hacks should be all over this. But the MSM has to be in the control of pro GOP corporations to ignore this.
I mean ask yourself what would happen if Bill did it? Then there would be news coverage 24/7 and Congress would be calling for impeachment.
This company has ties to Darth he used to run it but the MSM is sure quiet. Rush is quiet him and all the Rightwing media we know that their audience loves political sex scandals but they are quiet too.
Is the Washington Times the Moonie Paper?
Yup.
omg
i thought that was a “Cindy McCain” Barbie before I scrolled down and saw the panties.
lol
It’s disturbing, isn’t it, that our own media will not report on something like this. Well, this is what blogging is all about and the only way anyone can get the truth anymore is they have to come online and head straight for the Left Blogosphere, otherwise, they’ll remain stupid.
The first time I heard what had happened to this young woman to the point her breasts were practically ripped off, I almost fainted. I’m serious.
And that big payout…. what if one of those rapist infected her with something…. a STD or AIDS….. She will need to be tested and followed for years…… a potential ticking timebomb…
Bob McCain =SIMPLETON …that is all
Further irony: Notwithstanding all the fraud perpetrated on US taxpayers and patterned subversion of the war effort rightwing cretins like McCain consider so paramount, the douche would also seem to be taking the side of a Dubai-based corporation over an American citizen. If the left was composed of the linear-thinking reactionary troglodytes that McCain represents, one would think he would be pilloried for such.
But dogmatic fucktards like Bob never met a company who actually did anything morally wrong, because companies, rather than being composed by people, are sanctified and ethereal agents of The Market, and The Market will correct all their simple “missteps.” Laws are just intrusions upon the natural order.
But then, the Chicago School is as big a fucking cult as the Moonies, so double your dogma, double your prickery.
THEIR CRIME WAS IN THE COVERUP AND KIDNAPPING OF AN EMPLOYEE AGAINSTH HER WILL SO SHE COULDN”T SEEK MEDICAL/LEGAL hELp.
ARE YOU SOOOO FUCKING STUPID< mIster MCcain?????????????????????</p>
Nevermind. Apparently so
btw, this was NOT direected at Lazlo but at the guy who wrote the update he brought over here.. IN CASE HE BOTHERS TO READ our comments.
Ah, here’s an interesting quote from Bob McCain.
From an earlier post today, regarding the “Women’s Voices. Women Vote” registration drive in West Virginia:
Guess that’s about all one needs to know about this fine fellow.
Oh wow. So they’re admitting that there are times when they authorize rape. Nice! Assholes. Nothing but a bunch of war profiteering Bush Criminals!
VictorLazlo - that, and the fact he worked for the washington times.
AND HE WROTE THIS FUCKING ARTICLE.
can anyone tell - I get a little upset when I read about KBR/et. al and the way they treat the women who work for them.
Here’s the comment I just left on Robert McCain’s site:
I doubt the little right wing coward will post it.
Dammit. I wrote “torture” instead of “rape”. Well, in actuality raping is torturing, so my mistake wasn’t far off.
((((((KayInMaine))))))
Since he doesn’t have the testicular fortitude to publish comments, if anyone else wants to let this piece of excrement know how they feel, his email is, “r.s.mccain@att.net”
Thanks for the email address, Jacqrat! I’ll be zipping one off to the little feminine fingered “pro-rape-torture” advocate! Spit.
What’s not to like about the Washington Times? It makes up the law, just like McBush makes up facts. Halliburton/KBR seems culpable of criminal wrongdoing as well as civilly liable for wrongs done to its employees. The WT’s editors also seem to ignore the DOJ’s refusal to address these crimes, as if, like Feith or Cambone or Rummy or Bush, it regarded this mess was someone else’s doing and their responsibility to clean up.
In BushWorld, admitting an error or a crime makes it a fact and threatens liability, the thing Shrub has avoided since childhood. Not acknowledging its existence makes it go away. That kind of fantasy most parents help their ten and twelve year-old children grow out of. For Halliburton/KBR, as well as Bush, it’s a fantasy that’s been highly profitable, until now.
Halliburton/KBR may not be in the business of raping, except perhaps its principal client, the US Government and, indirectly, US taxpayers. It is, however, in the business of managing its people, whatever it asks them to do, and in ratifying or affirming its employees’ conduct. It’s ratified the rapists’ raping in several ways. The WT ignores them as if it were John Yoo ignoring a steely Supreme Court opinion that didn’t support his fantasy version of the law.
Halliburton/KBR’s principal failure was not responding to the alleged criminal wrongdoing among its employees. Arguably, its managers then obstructed justice, engaged in kidnapping and illegal intimidation. Each step in these apparent multiple cover-ups involved a higher level of management. Each step implicated them by their apparent approval of the wrongful actions in that they failed to take reasonable steps to stop it and to punish the alleged wrongdoers, several of whom it has rewarded rather than punished.
Some would call that a pattern of deception at Halliburton/KBR, protecting its employees who were alleged criminals, destroying evidence, intimidating adverse witnesses, ad nauseum.
Halliburton/KBR seems to have devoted far more time and resources in devising a plausible excuse to avoid hundreds of millions in payroll and unemployment taxes on salaries paid to its thousands of staff in Iraq and Afghanistan. Guess we know what’s important to Halliburton/KBR.
Probably pissed off because he’d been left out of the fun.
American companies contracting in Iraq have so far suffered no adverse consequences for anything they’ve done wrong. Name it; shoddy workmanship, killing civilians, GI’s electrocuted by bad wiring, jobs uncompleted, water purification plants that don’t purify, overcharging, the list goes on and on. Why should they be held accountable now? Bushco will zealously prevent the unraveling of so much as a single thread of the tissue of lies that is Iraq because any one thread is sufficient to unravel the whole mess.
They what, now?
Top Iraq contractor skirts US taxes offshore
Shell companies in Cayman Islands allow KBR to avoid Medicare, Social Security deductions
Thank you, tbogg.
it’s about whether KBR should be held corporately responsible for criminal actions it neither authorized nor condoned. — RSM
WHETHER?????
Damn.
And from what I can tell, this microcephalic jackass hasn’t spent a single moment wondering how this sort of thing might affect “the mission” and US security in a larger context.
It ought to be pretty obvious, with a moment’s thought, that if they’re willing to treat a US citizen this way, that they may be more cavalier with the locals. Hearts and minds, and all that.
Kinda makes you wonder if this sort of crime may be related to the 4 KBR personnel who were burned to death in Falluja a couple years back.
Bless you for resurrecting the McDonald’s coffee case. Nothing infuriates me more than some smug business-can-do-no-wrong douche bag citing this case as an example of juries gone wild.
McDonalds coffee was totally fucked up. I stopped drinking it because by the time it had cooled off enough to be drinkable, I usually had forgotten I had a cup of coffee still waiting to be consumed. And if you did drink it, you discovered the rather obvious fact that superheated coffee tastes like SHIT once it’s cooled off.
Once the rightwing started mocking that old woman for her burns, it was obvious to me that no lie would ever be too much for them to handle, and I was proven right. Rape? hey — at least half the people involved had a good time, right?
Pigs. All of them. And I say that as a former Iowa farm kid who used to raise hogs. You can feed a pig every day of its life, but if you fall down and hit your head in the hoglot, those same fucking pigs will eat you alive. That’s because they’re pigs. They don’t know the meaning of the word loyalty, chivalry or anything other than “dinner’s here!!!”
I’m trying to imagine the pride Mr. McCain’s mom/wife/sisters/daughters must have felt when they added this to their “bylines by our #1 fave guy” files.