When I was young the future was very different from the way it is today. It was spaceships, and jet packs and flying cars. And when I was a bit older it was cybertech and biotech, humanity reinventing itself and making itself stronger, smart, faster and perhaps immortal.
The future we received was an odd one. The sheer ubiquity of communication is something not predicted by most of the futurists and sci-fi authors of the pre-eighties world. My generation, Gen-X, as a friend of mine once noted, may be the last 1st world generation to ever truly know what it is to be alone (and thus, perhaps, an important part of what it is to be human).
But even as the communications revolution has moved inexorably forward the world has grown physically larger – when the Concorde supersonic commercial transport was grounded, transportation speed actually took a noticeable step backwards and time from point to point actually increased (the true measure of distance is time).
There are three main reasons we didn’t get the future we were expecting. They’re worth going over a bit.
Energy: Yes, again. When you read the old sci-fi, the old predictions, the first thing you’ll notice is that they assume we come up with a cheap essentially endless source of energy. Whether it is some form of “atomics” or of cheap efficient water to hydrogen (used by Traveller, among others, in the 70’s, to show how old that dream is), cheap and plentiful energy was at the heart of their vision for the future.
You can’t fling things hither and yon – you can’t have widespread spaceflight, jetpacks and flying cars, without cheap energy. Until we break the hydrocarbon straight-jacket we will not have the future the 50’s promised us. If that’s a future you want then you have to figure a way out.
In principle there is no reason why we shouldn’t have all the energy we could ever use – the Sun blasts the earth with more than enough for any conceivable purpose at our tech level. The question is how to get it. Burning liquefied fossils of various kinds isn’t the way. It’s hardly more advanced than a bunch of neanderthals clustered around a fire – all we have on them is that we dig it up and distill it.
Superstition and Greed: The cyberpunk future of the 80’s, dystopic as it often was, included in it a vision of enhancing humans both through melding ourselves with machines and through genetics and biotech which gave a hope that we could eventually overcome the hand dealt us by fate – that we could become stronger, faster and smarter than our genetics would normally allow.
That future could never have been achieved by now. But what is noticeable about it is two trends. The first is that powerful forces of superstitious ignorance have tried to slow it down or stop it. Because of myths thousands of years old, unsupported by scientific evidence, they have sought to strangle funding for and make illegal much of the research in question.
The second is that both the human genome and indeed all biochemical information about all species has been regarded as a possible land grab situation. Powerful private interests want to patent your genome, or that of various plants, and then use those building blocks to create other patentable properties. This is in direct violation of the idea that natural processes shouldn’t be the property of anyone since they are expressions of natural law, but no matter. This rush – with carpetbaggers finding old plants to seize the rights on and then charging 3rd world peasants who want to plant them as they have for millenia, continues. It slows down the entire process because scientists can’t work with everything because they have to pay for every single process or piece of information. Meanwhile whatever is in the public domain can be used by private researchers.
So the future where you can be stronger, faster and smarter is not only moving ahead more slowly (at an incalculable cost in lives and suffering, since there are significant medical benefits) but it is being privatized. So that in the future, the privileged will be able to be smarter, faster and stronger – but you won’t be able to afford it. It’s the aristocrat’s old dream made flesh – to really be better than those they rule and in the long run it is the greatest threat to equality that this tired world has ever known.
Poverty: What is notable about the last few tech booms is that they come out of old, old research. The government funding which both seeded and nurtured microchips and the internet is old money – it goes back to the forties through the seventies at the latest. Since then the trend has been towards less and less expenditure on the sort of speculative basic research and support of new promising technologies.
Only government can afford the long term gambling perspective that is required for this sort of research and support, because only government can know that they will be able to cash in on any and all wins. In our current poor state period, where the highest priority of government action is to give more money to people who already have more money, this has fallen by the wayside. Technology and science are just as much creatures of politics as the economy is; the only time people are able to credibly deny it is when the government funding and protection is so complete as to be unnoticeable.
I miss the past’s future. I want my spaceships and jetpacks and flying cars. I want my cybertech and biotech and anti-aging treatments.. But you can’t have futures like that if you won’t pay for them, if you let public policy be run by people who are slaves to superstition, or if you ignore basic political economic problems.
Those futures were lost the same way that America lost its way in general – by deciding that the welfare of only a few was more important than the welfare of the citizenry as a whole.
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I fell in love with star trek
I want that future back too ian…a most enjoyable thread
hey, anyone read the “enders game” trilogy”
the first installment I thought was entireley pedestrian but my brother in law insisted I read the others and man that author grew before my eyes
I wonder why this is not on film yet
We need to reconstruct our dreams of the future. There’s still time.
I had the same experience. Something drew me to the second book and I couldn’t put them down once I started it. Still have them and have been thinking about re-reading them since Card has been talked about lately.
Ian – fascinating post – I hadn’t thought about it this way though I almost entirely read SF.
One of the bases for those futures..whether it was the pulps of the 30s and 40s or what came afterward, is the hope for a better future. That there WOULD BE a future. Now, there was also the sort of Soylent Green Future, but in general the future visions were hopeful. That your kids would have it better than you did; that their kids would have it better and so on into the infinite future. Hard to look at those visions now without a little bit of a grimace, really.
O/T but for Christy wrt Obama in WV
Bom dia pups
Interesting post Ian. Gives us much to ponder
That vision of the future was only one of the ideas from the science fiction of the 50s and early 60s that formed the basis of my thinking. The other one was a vision of small and really interesting communities, frequently on other planets, in which novel ways of relating among people were the dominant themes. I can’t find any of that today, even with the google, but that vision always made more sense than the sodden artificial commercial culture we have in the US today.
Several years ago I went to Siena, and stayed in a downtown hotel not far from the main oval in the center of town. After dinner, we joined the passagio, the evening walk around the main street towards the church of St. Catherine, and back, with all the families and friends out with us, sharing a gelato. That makes a life. The US as we see it today doesn’t.
I take exception to your comment that the world is getting larger. The revolution that is the internet has made the world as small as the distance from your eyes to your laptop.
You are right that barring some kind of energy revolution, we will become less and less likely to travel the world in jetliners. It won’t be very long from now that people will marvel (and recoil in disgust) from the idea of a 747 burning 100,000 gallons of diesel fuel to carry a bunch fo people across the ocean.
But, truly, with the advances in communication and computation, which we are just beginning to see, you can be anywhere (or everywhere!) at once.
One of the things I always found/find fascinating about the “hard” sci-fi authors (and I put Assimov, Herbert, Heinlein, and Dickinson in that crowd, amongst others) is the inherent optimism they displayed that we would be able to reach the stars and the future without killing ourselves.
Well, the energy situation may just change things for the better here in terms of community life. Evidence: article in yesterday’s USAToday about people in the DC suburbs who are giving up/selling/renting their homes in the outlying suburbs to move closer or move to within metro reach or whatever. Evidence: In our little Upstate NY city, people are buying up the two and three story commercial buildings downtown and renovating them so that they can live in the top story and rent out the rest. Evidence: a new, expanded farmers’ market has opened up in the most popular park in the city. My DH and I rode our bikes down and did some shopping and rode home. Lots of people there, some of whom were combining a trip to the park and shopping..even though the veggies have really not come to market yet.
Off topic:
House republicans have voted against Mother’s Day (not a joke or satire):
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll275.xml
What the hell! Basically, the republic party sucks ass.
Much as I love the internet (and I make my living from it, and met most of my friends through it), being somewhere is very different from talking to someone somewhere else.
Yeah, Christy took a whack at that Friday morning.
Such an easy target they make of themselves.
Excellent post, Ian. Some of our citizens — and the politicians who pander to them — think the future will be rapturous for some and hell for everyone else — and they may succeed in bringing about the latter.
Methinks it will be hell for far more of them than realize it and far less rapturous.
Card is actually quite reactionary … I lean towards Ecoutopian SF like Kim Stanley Robinson and right now I’m gobbling up Cory Doctorow’s Little Brother which is a must read for all of us concerned with rights and … well, just read! Or as my son’s housemate Steven Brust said “It’s a YA about techno-geek kids saving the world. Afterword by Bruce Schneier. It will be out from Tor in less than a fortnight. Buy it, read it, love it.”
Is that ever the truth!!!
Academic basic biomedical research is a dead man walking: it just hasn’t had the sense to realize it’s time to fall over. The word I hear out of Boston is that it is barely worth the ink cartridges to file a grant with NIH.
Companies will never make basic advances, at least in biomed: they have the attention spans of gnats.
Devoted people have for decades been unable to sustain themselves even at the very modest levels that researchers anticipate as part of the bargain of being allowed to do what they like to do. Ph.D.s in medical schools have been known to leave to work in a curtain factory or an auto parts store to bring in enough money reliably to make ends meet. The very best may still get funded, but that puts research in the shape the Navy would be in if they dropped everybody except the SEAL teams and the top fighter jocks. (OK, I don’t know what in the military would be considered analogous to the very top scientists, but you get the point, I hope.)
I don’t feel up to a full-scale rant right now, but the strangulation of basic research in the U.S. is a sore, sore point with this ex-researcher. I see shortsightedness, greed, obliviousness, and hatred of the natural world everywhere I look. All we can hope for is that we do not get the future we deserve. (Cross your fingers, because when has that ever happened?)
A good example is Corning, Inc., which has great products, devotes huge amounts of money to research..and which gets no place in terms of stock price.
Sorry. I haven’t been on for a few days. Thanks for the heads up! Going now to read it. ;-)
no rapturists are going to get raptured
it is a misinturperation of the changing of eras
these maggots trying to “bring on the rapture” are pitiful
And has the aforesaid attention span of a gnat. They get hot and bothered about some inventive new technique and after having spent time and money assembling a team inside and outside of the company which could very probably pull it off — they call it quits. The in-house talent, very, very impressive old glassblower talent, gets nothing to do and there’s no payback for what they have already invested, but they’re already excited about the next bright idea — which they will also fail to follow through on. I’d rather deal with three-year-olds than corporate decision-makers. They couldn’t row a boat to shore with a storm coming on because it wouldn’t get there soon enought for them.
oh man (or woman) did you ever nail it one that one. I couldn’t agree more.
strangulation of basic research, shortsightedess etc. I too could go on and on. I’m a Univ. prof- Biology- and NSF and NIH funding is totally f*ed. And, at least 99% of this right now is completely in line with the BushCo play book.
I just get so totally pissed off about these issues.
I could go on for pages and pages.
“bring on the rapture” – I don’t understand this. If these folks really and truly believed in God(the all-knowing and all-seeing), they would realize that he/she/it is going to make his/her/its move on ending it all in her/her/its’ own time and there is nothing they can do to hurry it up. such rubbish.
Excellent post, Ian, and an excellent one word description of the forces that are impeding the advancement of civilization by trying to take us back to the 12th century. Superstitious.
The big issue going forward is energy.
Money flows in the direction of energy.
Americans are screwed because they see energy as free and have built their lives around that principle.
Ian
Economics is the problem, not the solution. You cannot have the future you want in a money based, hierarchical society. Money is hierarchy since the more you accumulate the higher you go. We consider the wealthy our smartest and follow them because it seems the smart thing to do. The fact is they couldn’t care less about us and would rip us off in a heartbeat and usually do.
Capitalism locks us into the status quo. When you make internal combustion engines, you resist alternate technologies and this resistance to change involves more than car makers. It includes the oil industry, car salesmen,and all those ancillary positions. A whole bunch of people, for a variety of reasons, need things to be the way they are even though we obviously are poisoning ourselves.
The irony is that hierarchy is literally insanity. While humans are not identical, they are equal in that no matter what they do in this life, they die. If the pushing, shoving and accumulating bought immortality it would be reality based. Since it doesn’t, it is psychotic.
Well, speaking of community, I’m putting on my tux and heading to town to sing Verdi’s Requiem with 140 singers, 80 orchestra folk, and all in front of 1800 paying customers. But I could do that in Siena too.
Yup.
Can you imagine what it will take to rebuild and fuel the huge academic machine that got put together post-Sputnik?
Yeah, I could go on for pages and pages, too, but it would be bad for my health and I would only get depressed. I am going through boxes and boxes of books and project notes. Books about things that I am unlikely to ever use again go to the local library: maybe someone will find a use. Program code and specimens — well, wouldn’t a museum at least find a place for them? Those instruments that I made to do certain tricky little jobs — who cares? The information in the textbooks is still wrong. What did it all mean, all those years?
So I write novels about the history of humanity. I call them fiction, fantasy. There have been disasters and near-exterminations, but always there has been the earth herself, bountiful and resilient, to help us back onto our feet. But now we have come to hate the out-of-doors. We destroy it every chance we get. I do not know whether there will be enough of a natural system left to reach out a helping hand the next time, this next time which is coming very soon.
What does it say about the fundies when they have taken a series of novels (the “Left Behind” books) and treat them as if they belong in the New Testament, following “The Revelation of St John the Divine?” There is no rapture in “Revelation,” it comes from the novels. The whole premise of “Left Behind” is fiction and these people now include the concept in their basic spiritual beliefs?
Give me Samuel R Delany any day.
Not big on SF/Fantasy myself, but Schnier is always a good read (more often than not spot on) and his recommendation would be well received in these quarters
The authors are a tad confuse on the fact/fiction line as well.
Do we really know, or need to know about their spiritual beliefs?
We care. And, we believe.
And, thanks for your kind words earlier.
Yes I agree, but we are trapped in Ground Hog day in the US. We might have been the leaders but we have been passed by because of short sightness and the sale of the Amerikan dream as Madison Ave/Wall Street see it. I’m not sure we can regain it the lead and if we do hopefully we will share this time and bring the human race along. Big SiFi fan, I can dream but it looks like a train at the end of the tunnel.
jo6pac
Everything is on schedule, please move along
Thanks Ian
See also!
As you say, true face to face personal interaction is becoming increasingly rare. The chance conversation at the street corner or the bus stop is rarely possible, as the other person’s ears are likely filled with I-pod headphones or they may be lost in conversation on a cell phone. People are increasingly in their own little sphere, obnlivious to others. Children play video games or watch TV, they don’t play with each other kids outside as was the norm a few decades ago. I suggest society is the poorer for it.
A friend informs me it’s in production with a script by Card:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0400403/
Card is personally a reactionary, but I try to separate someone’s fiction rom their politics unless the politics explicitly informs it (Empire’s End, for Card, which is not just a political book, but a bad one too.)
Basic research is seed that no one but the government or near government (the old Bell Labs) can afford to do. And it is fundamental to a country’s progress. And I hear you, folks who dedicate their lives to research should be treated as valuable, not as disposable.
I keep wishing I knew how to travel via “A Wrinkle in Time.”
Notice that I said “political economy”, not economics. I’ll write my problems with economics one day (well, actually, I sort of have in various pieces) but I very much agree with someone else’s sentiment that “economists can be bad for your health”. It’s not all bad, but it’s not a science and what it thinks it knows is often not true.
I see these people as a small but very vocal, and well financed, group who are making every attempt to force all of us to live according to their belief system. A belief system that mixes ancient superstitions, ancient cultural practices (e.g., keeping women in separate living quarters during their menstrual cycle, without rights), ancient prophecies, with fiction. A belief system that decries mainstream Christianity, every other religion (with the exception of Orthodox Judaism) and belief system.
So, the short answer is yes, I want to know the enemy. And the enemy is anyone who wants to dictate and control the way others live. I want to know how they work like I want to know how the neo-cons work. I refuse to be enslaved by either group.
You’re welcome. I added it to my quotation collection.
Bell Labs gave us the C programming language and IIRC C++ as well. Where would we be without them.
Quartet. There are four books in the first series (Ender’s Game, Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide and Children of the Mind.) And there’s a second trilogy, Ender’s Shadow, Shadow of the Hegemon, Shadow Puppets, and Shadow of the Giant.
There’s another Ender novel, Ender in Exile, scheduled for release this fall.
Wow! it sounds like we need to form a mutual support group. It’s painful going through all those books and lab books and specimens (yep, I got those too) and not get totally depressed by “what might have been”.
What kind of novels do you write, exactly? “history of humanity” -pretty broad sweep there, and I say that especially as I have just started “reading”- (listening to on audio book), “Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies” by Jared Diamond. Totally fascinating so far.
Here’s one way
Hmmm…dilythium crystals…legend has it that Atlantis was powered by crystals also. I’m thinking there are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in our philosophy!
Hi Ian, thanks for the thought provoking (as usual) post
If energy, water, other resources, population, and global warming are not addressed and brought into balance, the chances are that by 2100 the world’s population will be one billion or less. You can already see how this is beginning to play out in places like Burma, Darfur, Congo, Somalia, and Zimbabwe. You can see it in the reactionary tendencies in all the world’s religions: the war on science, the oppression of women in many societies which right off the bat cuts in half their ability to deal with the challenges that confront them. You can see the setup for future water wars among countries in the Middle East, the Nile Valley, the Mekong, and the Indus. You can see it in our own profligacy blowing wealth on imperial wars and unproductive financial schemes. The clock is ticking and we are not paying attention.
I don’t agree with this. What superstition are you talking about? I think applying ethics to science and technology in relation to life death issues, gene modification, cloning etc is a good thing. It that what you mean?
I don’t believe that everything that is possible to do, is good to do. We need to have some basis to decide whether something is a right action. Ethics, morality, laws of nature, sanity, whatever. Maybe even superstition.
Siun! I met your son a couple weekends ago!
Card and Ender’s Game: I read Ender’s Game and Ender’s Shadow – recommened by a student as “the best book he’d ever read”. Thought they were great, the second in particular. To retell a story from a 2nd point of view was brilliant.
How about some bioengineered food that is tested as safe with vitamins, minerals and protein added in instead of weed and bug killer or genes to make the plants survive weed and bug killer without us getting those genes not that I want them.
We’ve also got the futuristic movies where people travel round the world is various crapped out vehicles lookin for the last tank of gas.
Hugh- yes, and the recent cyclone in Burma will have impact outside Burma on the global food crisis- rice shortages in particular- Irrawaddy Delta is/was one of the most fertile rice-producing areas in the world
Lots of science fiction helped create the association of progress and happiness with new gizmos and gadgets and piles of STUFF.
People could be about as happy living in 1,000 square foot houses- biking to work, and growing some of their own food.
Happiness may be at the end of a short trip BACKWARDS.
I think solar and wind power are a start for cheap energy fuel cells if we could run them off of water for some reason people recently started saying they could be run off of gas wouldn’t pollute and water is cheap.
Now that cheap fuel is gone, people will be forced to reorganize their lives- and it won’t hurt em a bit.
I think the only thing holding the future back is to many of the Elites are making good money off of the Past.
I’m honored to be part of your quotes list.
Secondly, om regards t setting women aside during That Time, there’s a wonderful book entitled The Red Tent, where, among aspects, the women got to that red tent during those days and they tend to each other and tell stories and it’s wonderful. It’s actually the female’s point of view of the time of Joseph. Check it out, if you want to.
Hugs to you and the tiggers. a special hug to the blind one from me.
We are all blind to something.
Oh, with my boo booed finger, I accidententally, at first, wrote blonde one.
Ha.
Much more than that! Bell Labs gave us the Transistor and arguably more importantly, the father of digital signal processing, the redoubtable Harry Nyquist. He of Nyquist’s Law.
I think cheap fuel was always a misnomer…! 8-(
Ethics, morals sure but to deny a technology like stem cells like Bush did just because your voters think the Bible says no is wrong.
I welcome a debate not a command from on high.
We are all Blond to Something.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
I crack myself up sometimes.
So what would you rather have: Cheap Fuel- or cheap wine and cigars?
Have some friends from Hungary- they took off at the time of the revolution.
Frank grew up on a farm where his father grew cash crops but also wine grapes and tobacco…He could smoke and drink to his heart’s content and he always had more than enough to eat…
So what’s wrong with THAT picture?
The Terri Schiavo debacle was pretty revealing to me. Let me rush back from one of my innumerable vacations for this matter. Can’t be bothered with a major US city drowning, but interposing the Government in a private family matter, no problemo!
Heh, cheap beer… What I’d meant was it’s never been cheap, either environmentally or in the cost of blood and treasure… One way or another it’s taken a toll on us and Mother Earth…!
Not a damn thing!
I remember seeing Nargis form in the Bay of Bengal in satellite photos and was surprised that I couldn’t find warnings or information on it. And then a couple of days later it hit Burma. A lot of people could have been saved if timely warning which was possible was given. I also heard a report I believe on NPR that talked about how something like 80% of mangrove swamps and other coastal barriers in Burma had been removed for shrimp farming and other enterprises, all of which considerably worsened the storm’s impact.
I’ve read “The Red Tent.” Twice. Really a great read. There were stacks of them on the floor under a table at *cough*BarnesandNoble*cough* and I couldn’t resist. Actually I think B&N overstocked on a bunch of books cuz there were stacks on the floor everywhere. Reminded me of Powell’s in Portland in the old days.
Yep- not so cheap….
I know both her parents and her husband and it was a nightmare down here. Talk about a divided city. It was just plain fugly.
There was a time when my family would all get together at least weekly- drink a little beer- and everyone brought something to eat…Some would play pinochle, some would snooze by the fire- kids would do what kids do…Great years- didn’t cost a fuckin dime.
Are people just too damn lazy to do that kinda stuff any more? I’ve tried to get people together to play pinochle, double deck, but they’d rather sit home in front of the boob toob.
I’ve read it twice, also.
A good read.
anyone else out, there, you’ve got an FL recommenmdation.
I love you SD.
I can only imagine. I would have hated to have been close to it. I am just offended by people attempting to make political hay off of other’s pain-the basest sort of pandering.
The finger, she hurts.
Must lay down.
Kiss the tiggers for me.
(Sorry for the lapse, there. Was off making supper.)
What do I write? Hardly scientific. The premise is that souls exist, and that souls return to live in one life after another. (Hardly an earth-shattering premise for much of the world.) There are, the premise goes on, souls who have lived on earth from even as long ago as 3 million B.C. up almost to the present day, and by following the experience of one such soul, who began living here 1.5 million years ago, we can learn a lot about why things are the way they are. The first installment has the title “Searching for My Wives” (hah! just blew my cover!) and ought to come out as a podcast (free subscription) before the end of the year, if I get down to business. It explores the genesis of mankind in the clans in Chesowanja and Sesotho, Africa, the migration to the Indus, then the founding of the Bharatan line in Nepal, the great battle of Kurukshetra, and so on.
The second installment is a rewrite of Middle Eastern history about 1600-1500 B.C., with Sumerian Ur, Egyptian Thebes, Judaean Hebron, and even a Norseman mixing it up.
Long way from digital image processing and biomechanics.
What’s your field, if you don’t mind me asking?
My boss was a huge supporter of father and was in the middle of all that crap. Talking to Jeb, the whole shootin’ match. We never got into a shouting match over it but there came a point we just didn’t bring it up between us. I’d come out of his office just steamin’. Judge Greer, who presided over that mess will be at my boss’s daughter’s wedding next month. Nice man and had it right all along. Lot of wingers, though. Jeb, maybe. I have to wear a tux. Gonna be the first time some of these wingers have ever been in a room with a real live leftist. It’s gonna be fun. heh heh heh
Nite, demi.
Be good to yourself.
OT
Has everyone seen the cover on the new Time mag?
If not it’s shown on Americablog and it’s wonderful.
A beauty.
You have your head right, for which I really have to admire you. I get more & more radical every year, it seems! They had best hope I don’t live another twenty years, for this shit will never be acceptable. I never thought we’d still be where we are politically right now, if someone had told me things would be so regressive in this new century back in 1972, I’d have thought them an idiot and been happy to tell them so!
Hugh-
see these links:
~~India’s meteorological agency, which monitors cyclones in the Indian Ocean, says it warned the Burmese authorities 48 hours before the storm struck.~~
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asi…..386695.stm
~~The IMD’s cyclone director, M. Mahapatra, tells VOA News regular advisories were issued to Burma from April 26, when the forming tropical depression was detected in the Bay of Bengal ~~
http://www.voanews.com/english…..-voa32.cfm
thanks
Not allowing stem cells to be used that were taken from embryos that would die anyway, is a good example.
I’ve been using the same solar powered calculator my mother bought me when I was in middle school for the past twenty years. Still works as if it was brand new. It’s tried and true technology. Why aren’t solar powered electronics more common?
not to worry on delay, I had to do other stuff too.
Neuroscience. And, I have no theoretical background in digital image processing, but does “laser scanning confocal microscope” mean anything to you? I wrote a grant do get one of these in dept., oversaw installation, as was heavy user.
The CW is that folks become more conservative as they get older. That may have been true 20 years ago but, like you, the older I get the more radical I am.
Well, well, well. Yes, the code and docs and samples are from the first generation of CLSMs. I wasn’t a developer, but I worked on using the Swedish CLSMs (KTH at first, then Sarastro, then Molecular Dynamics) in some of its first applications. Rather than buy the microscope — when I started it existed only as a prototype — I put the grant money into a getting a honking great image processing platform and put my effort into finding out how much information could be extracted from the image stacks. Also in finding out how to preserve tissue with its in vivo 3D shape intact.
Ian, I’m not sure I would have identified “superstition” as the major word to use re: stem cell stuff- but maybe that is part of what this was all about.
Two really interesting articles:
~~Bush’s hypocrisy on stem cells and the death penalty.~~
http://www.slate.com/id/2119512/
~~The tragic stubbornness of George W. Bush.
[snip]Now the former White House aide who coordinated the formulation of Bush’s stem-cell policy has published an account of how the president reached his decision. The reporting is new, but the story is familiar. Once again, the case for Bush is the case against him.[snip~~~
http://www.slate.com/id/2182667/
Stem cells is a hot button right now, as was the Schiavo case. I’m not arguing for any particular position, but I am saying that we should not just rush willy nilly into anything, simply because we can. Technology should not be the driving force, rather a thought-out well considered vision for where we are going, what we are trying to do here. We need to apply ethics to our decision making, clumsy a tool as it may be. And I’m not talking chimpesqe ethics or the likes of Hagee or whoever the guy who thinks Katrina was judgement.
That said, this was a very interesting post. And for the record, I grew up with the jetsons and lost in space too, but I suspect Mad Max has it a little closer to reality. Scrounging for supplies and tribal warfare.
How about “A Boy and His Dog.”
Ian- apologies for going OT with behindthefall, on science details on your thread. But, it’s one of those chance encounters, among suffering scientists, which came about because of your post.
btf- don’t know anything about those versions of CLSM. Mine Bio-Rad, and first I heard of this was (long time before) in Cambridge UK- Brad Amos was doing some kind of early work on this.
And, crikey “Also in finding out how to preserve tissue with its in vivo 3D shape intact.” You mean you actually succeeded? Hats off to you!
Hurrr, hurrr: users of the CLSM of the Nordic persuasion considered it superior to the Brits’ Bio-Rad machine. *g*
And, yeah, about the shape preservation, it’s particularly tricky when the tissue in question is the lung, which makes its living by being elastic.
(Sorry, Ian. This is one of those irresistible ’small world’ occurrences.)
Did some analyses of interneuronal connections, too. Just saw those go out in the garbage this afternoon.
As I said, we need to form a mutual support group! And idea how to go about that, assuming you might be interested? I mean, it’s not like we can keep talking about this “private pain of a scientist” and CLSM stuff at FDL. ;)
Not at all, the two of you are having an interesting conversation.
Thanks Ian. I don’t usually go totally totally OT on a thread, but it really is one of those small world things.
And I did try to make a few comments that were on topic too! :)
Don’t know the usual protocol for breaking cover. If you wanted to put your email address in the open, I’d send you an email, but that’s only an unoriginal maneuver that comes to mind.
Strange, so much of the SF I read in teh 40s and 50s was dystopian.
Recently, reading of autonomous weaponized robots, I had to rack my brain until I came up with Robert Sheckley’s “Watchbird” — in which an airborne ‘peacekeeper’ with AI starts by preventing a violent crime and ends with killing an old man with a rolled-up newspaper after a fly …
Did any fiction ever mention a rail gun before “The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress” ?
John Brunner may have had the first example of computer malware in “Shockwave Rider”. 1968, I think.
Ian, I hope that you will write more about this in the future. The idea that only the rich will be better, stronger, faster, is truly scary. But then they may be the only ones left.
Forgot to say that this was an excellent post, as usual.
THanks
And, most people generally have no idea about the private life of a scientist.
Ian, after I read your post, I was trying to compose a coherent comment that echoed part of what you had said re: GREED
~~Powerful private interests want to patent your genome, or that of various plants, and then use those building blocks to create other patentable properties.~~
But, behindthefall got there “on the money”.
Just yesterday I was reading about how a scientist at my university had obtained a “license” for some molecule from plant root that has potential for causing cancerous tumors to shrink. I don’t what a “license” is actually, but it was obvious that it is different from a patent.
But, the tone was “woopee” this will help the University in getting $$$.
Issue that’s been on my mind for a long long time.
if you can bear with me for a few, and check back, I’ll go off and create some kind of temporary addy, for the purpose. Let me see what I can do.
Thanks very much for being the one to make the effort. I’ll be around, and if this thread locks up, I’ll drop some crumbs in the newer ones.
vg – while you are at it, and if you are willing, would you email me at speakeasy dot net?
vg- will do Selise, in a few.
let me post this for btf
Oh, you can use it too!!!!!
lscmstuff@gmail.com
At the risk of getting buried way down in the comments where it won’t get noticed, let me report that we could finally be on the verge of getting that cheap boundless energy that’s been promised for years. It’s a story that hasn’t gotten anywhere the attention – or funding – it deserves. It’s the other nuclear energy: FUSION POWER.
The late Dr. Robert W. Bussard put together a team to explore a completely different route to building a practical fusion reactor, one that takes a decidedly different approach than the tokamak design. With limited funding and resources, his team still managed to build a number of test models to refine the concept. Their initial funding ran out in 2006 – but not before they got enough data to get to the point where they think they could build a working prototype to prove the concept. They estimate it could be done in 10 years or less, for a cost of around $200 million. Yes, that’s million, not billion. For less than a dollar from every American or the cost of a day or two of the Iraq occupation, we could finally solve our energy problems – and get away from carbon based fuels completely.
Although Dr. Bussard passed away last year, the work continues. The design they developed, a Polywell Inertial Electrostatic Confinement machine looks like it would work well enough to run by fusing protons and boron ions, a reaction that would not produce neutron radiation, and potentially would allow direct conversion of nuclear energy to electricity for remarkable efficiency. Further, it wouldn’t need a massive containment vessel, steam turbines with huge cooling towers, or produce radioactive waste.
Even better, it would be light enough and powerful enough to be usable as a real spacecraft drive. Yup – fusion powered spaceships. Not only could we power the planet with an abundant, non-radioactive fuel, we could also gain the solar system.
Sound too good to be true? There’s a number of people at work on the concept, and a lot of information if you know where to look for it. Here’s some links:
askmar.com has a number of papers and several videos well worth looking at, and many good links. I especially recommend the PDF file by Tom Ligon adapted from an article he published in ANALOG a few months back. It gives a compelling account of Dr. Bussard’s research and explains how a Polywell IEC machine works.
In case the links don’t work, here’s the urls:
http://www.askmar.com/Fusion.html
http://www.askmar.com/Fusion_f…..isited.pdf
You can also find more info at fusor.net or by googling Dr. Bussard, Polywell fusion, etc.
Anyone working on it who has funding?
I’ve left you a message. However, it’s time to crash on this coast.
The article by Ligon – The World’s Simplest Fusion Reactor Revisited, has a postscript for developments in 2008. I’m quoting from it here.
“Robert W. Bussard obtained funding in August 2007 for continued work on a small-scale Polywell, similar in size and configuration to WB6. After a lengthy battle with cancer, he passed away on October 6, 2007. Knowing his condition, he enlisted two noted physicists from Los Alamos National Laboratory, Rick Nebel and Jaeyoung Park, to head the new work. Joining them were three talents from the WB-6 work, mechanical engineer par excellence Mike Skillicorn, and brothers Mike and Kevin Wray. Working with incredible efficiency, they had WB7 basically up and running in January of 2008, announcing “first plasma”. This first step is far from full operation, and as of this posting Dr. Nebel has reported they are awaiting equipment to
allow full power operation.”
MSNBC had a brief report about progress; it can be found about halfway down through the article here:
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com…..66532.aspx
There’s a place where donations can be made to help keep the research going, through the EMC2 Fusion Development Corporation:
http://www.nmcf.org/?page_id=135
I wrote up a five part series on this over at Daily Kos; there was some good discussion and links in the comments. Roger Fox in particular has been on top of this for some time over there. Part 5 of the series I wrote can be found, with links to the first four installments here:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/…../42/500332
Little quibble: energy isn’t the problem, dense energy is. As you said, the sun is blasting us with a lot of energy, but it’s too diffuse to be useful for most of our needs. You can’t bake bread with it unless you concentrate it — make it denser. That could be what you’re visualizing, a parabolic mirror that focuses it directly. Thinking more generally, petroleum is a mechanism for concentrating energy: solar energy from long ago, converted into chemical energy by photosynthesis and then stored underground until we came for it. Indeed, most of our sources of energy are concentrated sunlight: fossil fuels, hydro, wind-power, solar cells. Nuclear and geothermal energy are tapping other concentrated sources. What we need is a really, really cheap way to concentrate solar energy. We don’t have it yet; the best candidate might be very cheap photovoltaics.
The future arrives sooner than you expect … and in a different order.
Most interesting. Thank you.
Concentrate and store/move.
Quite right. I should have said dense, portable, and storable. I suppose moving energy on high-tension wires or in a pipeline is a kind of mass transit for energy. The trouble with electrical energy is that we aren’t good at storing it.
I’m a huge fan of the Supergrid concept: an underground pipeline carrying liquid hydrogen that cools a superconducting cable at its center. Energy is moving both as hydrogen and as electricity. It also turns out that a long Supergrid segment is storing a gigawatt or so of energy in the hydrogen and generated magnetic field. Cost will probably be about $1M/km.
For a glimpse at futures past, http://www.paleofuture.com/ is a wonderful site. It has archives organized by decade, so you can see how visionaries’ ideas of the future progressed over the years. Highly recommended.
The future isn’t what it used to be.
Clemens: “Young lady, I come from a time when men achieve power and wealth by standing on the backs of the poor, where prejudice and intolerance are commonplace and power is an end unto itself, and you’re telling me that isn’t how it is anymore?”
Troi: “That’s right.”