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	<title>Comments on: McCain&#8217;s Lawyer Smacked Down By His Own Organization</title>
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		<title>By: cboldt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/09/mccains-lawyer-smacked-down-by-his-own-organization/#comment-1437010</link>
		<dc:creator>cboldt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 23:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Trevor Potter, John McCain’s lawyer, assumes or makes the point of argument “whether or not the FEC has to vote to withdraw from the contract it entered.”  He asserts that the answer to this is “no,” that unilateral withdrawal is within regulations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have two points.  First, I can smell a “no illegal” argument coming up, on the basis that what is being violated (by the combination of a loan agreement and not abiding by limits agreed to by contract) isn’t against statutory law.  “Not illegal” will fool most of the public.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Second, while there is a dispute as to whether or not the FEC has a voice in the contract it entered (McCain’s camp insures this is disputed), there is also the question about HOW the FEC will rule when it gets the opportunity to express itself.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor Potter, John McCain’s lawyer, assumes or makes the point of argument “whether or not the FEC has to vote to withdraw from the contract it entered.”  He asserts that the answer to this is “no,” that unilateral withdrawal is within regulations.</p>
<p>I have two points.  First, I can smell a “no illegal” argument coming up, on the basis that what is being violated (by the combination of a loan agreement and not abiding by limits agreed to by contract) isn’t against statutory law.  “Not illegal” will fool most of the public.</p>
<p>Second, while there is a dispute as to whether or not the FEC has a voice in the contract it entered (McCain’s camp insures this is disputed), there is also the question about HOW the FEC will rule when it gets the opportunity to express itself.</p>
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		<title>By: TobyWollin</title>
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		<dc:creator>TobyWollin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 22:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What I get from reading David Gewirtz’ pieces is this: the judge is not asking the right questions and is not looking in the right places(these other servers, for example). it’s also obvious that the Bush/Cheney administration is completely and utterly consistent with picking people to do jobs that they are just not equipped to do. Total incompetance and negligence. But again, I think you are right; with these guys, when you have the choice between malicious and stupid, malicious wins out every time. We need a special prosecutor who will pull together a staff of forensic computer people with some real skills…not people looking for 3×5 cards..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I get from reading David Gewirtz’ pieces is this: the judge is not asking the right questions and is not looking in the right places(these other servers, for example). it’s also obvious that the Bush/Cheney administration is completely and utterly consistent with picking people to do jobs that they are just not equipped to do. Total incompetance and negligence. But again, I think you are right; with these guys, when you have the choice between malicious and stupid, malicious wins out every time. We need a special prosecutor who will pull together a staff of forensic computer people with some real skills…not people looking for 3×5 cards..</p>
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		<title>By: nonplussed</title>
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		<dc:creator>nonplussed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It is by design and what we should do is bust them for failing to comply with the law. There is no excuse. Period.  Check &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.computerworld.com/white_house_cio_even_less_credible&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this out&lt;/a&gt;, Computer World calls the WH CIO “Even Less Credible”. I will provide a second link to a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.emailsgone.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;“Where Have All The E-Mails Gone?”&lt;/a&gt; which was written about this issue. It has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.emailsgone.com/reviews.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;links&lt;/a&gt; page with lots of good information on this whole sorry affair.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is by design and what we should do is bust them for failing to comply with the law. There is no excuse. Period.  Check <a href="http://blogs.computerworld.com/white_house_cio_even_less_credible" rel="nofollow">this out</a>, Computer World calls the WH CIO “Even Less Credible”. I will provide a second link to a <a href="http://www.emailsgone.com/" rel="nofollow">“Where Have All The E-Mails Gone?”</a> which was written about this issue. It has a <a href="http://www.emailsgone.com/reviews.htm" rel="nofollow">links</a> page with lots of good information on this whole sorry affair.</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The DOD documents back up the Downing Street memo.  There is some black and white evidence here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DOD documents back up the Downing Street memo.  There is some black and white evidence here.</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They seem to have figured out all the ways to get away with a series of crimes and abuses…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just can’t believe that there isn’t something obvious to nail them with….they had to have planned this for years and then put everything into place so carefully, so that no one can get to them…but I believe that there is something out there..right under our noses…a thread to pull.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was thinking that…since it is illegal apparently to use taxpayer money to feed Propaganda to the American people — especially, since the goal was to make a case to put troops into harms way based on “propaganda”…there might be something there that they can’t claim executive privilege to…seeing that the DOD had to release all of those documents via FOIA…and the “missing WH emails” are for the exact same time period and are cited as missing right when the DOD documents get released…it sure looks like they ditched the emails, because they couldn’t produce them or it would incriminate them by showing that they were defrauding the people…so they destroyed the evidence, which is a pattern with them…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think there is something substantial in this, but I’m not a lawyer…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They seem to have figured out all the ways to get away with a series of crimes and abuses…</p>
<p>I just can’t believe that there isn’t something obvious to nail them with….they had to have planned this for years and then put everything into place so carefully, so that no one can get to them…but I believe that there is something out there..right under our noses…a thread to pull.</p>
<p>I was thinking that…since it is illegal apparently to use taxpayer money to feed Propaganda to the American people — especially, since the goal was to make a case to put troops into harms way based on “propaganda”…there might be something there that they can’t claim executive privilege to…seeing that the DOD had to release all of those documents via FOIA…and the “missing WH emails” are for the exact same time period and are cited as missing right when the DOD documents get released…it sure looks like they ditched the emails, because they couldn’t produce them or it would incriminate them by showing that they were defrauding the people…so they destroyed the evidence, which is a pattern with them…</p>
<p>I think there is something substantial in this, but I’m not a lawyer…</p>
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		<title>By: TobyWollin</title>
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		<dc:creator>TobyWollin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well, I suppose it was better than bringing in strut rod bushings and ball joints.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, I suppose it was better than bringing in strut rod bushings and ball joints.</p>
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		<title>By: TobyWollin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/09/mccains-lawyer-smacked-down-by-his-own-organization/#comment-1436706</link>
		<dc:creator>TobyWollin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;well, there are so many missing emails…the air in cyberspace is just thick with ‘em, so I was taking it at face value.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, there are so many missing emails…the air in cyberspace is just thick with ‘em, so I was taking it at face value.</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
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		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ick!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;msnbc had some “analyst” syaing Obama shouldn’t have chosen those words. Frankly I would say “lost his bearings” about anyone who doesn’t seem to be grounded in their beliefs, regardless of age.  but opponents want to interpret it as an ageist remark, so throwing the wright issue is fair play.  blech.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ick!</p>
<p>msnbc had some “analyst” syaing Obama shouldn’t have chosen those words. Frankly I would say “lost his bearings” about anyone who doesn’t seem to be grounded in their beliefs, regardless of age.  but opponents want to interpret it as an ageist remark, so throwing the wright issue is fair play.  blech.</p>
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		<title>By: demi</title>
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		<dc:creator>demi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hate to say this, but I’m discouraged this afternoon.&lt;br /&gt;
You remember the Zilch response from Pat Leahy’s outrage about the WH saying they lost the emails about, wasn’t it FISA?&lt;br /&gt;
The truth is out there.  How can we find it?&lt;br /&gt;
Discouraged.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to say this, but I’m discouraged this afternoon.<br />
You remember the Zilch response from Pat Leahy’s outrage about the WH saying they lost the emails about, wasn’t it FISA?<br />
The truth is out there.  How can we find it?<br />
Discouraged.</p>
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		<title>By: ClosetOptimist</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClosetOptimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know.  I forgot to note the /snark at the end of that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know.  I forgot to note the /snark at the end of that.</p>
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