I get that Sen. John McCain thinks I have too cushy a deal with my health insurance. I don’t have to go through the laborious task of figuring out what health insurance plan I should buy—my human resources manager does all the work. (And, because I have a chronic disease, I don't have to be bothered with all of the rejections from insurance companies that won't insure me at any price.) When I see my doctor, I don't think about how much that blood test is going to cost or haggle over the cost of that shot he thinks I need.
I'd be better off, McCain says, if I had more of a free-market relationship with the health care system. Cut off the tax incentive that employers get for providing health care for employees, give me some of that instead in the form of a tax credit, and let me loose in the health care supermarket, where I'll be a diligent, cost-conscious consumer. (Hmm, green leaf lettuce or iceberg? The green leaf looks healthier and fresher but is it really worth $1.59 a head?)
What I don't get is how all of McCain's free-market fundamentalism on health care is supposed to help make sure my neighborhood hospital is up and running when I need it.
McCain didn't address the health of our nation's hospitals when he rolled out his health care plan last week. Perhaps that's because the issues are complex and many of the proposed solutions don't fit neatly into ideological lines. Perhaps it's because if he started delving into our health care infrastructure, he'd have to admit that the conservative mantra that we have "the best health care system in the world" is false.
A report this week by the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee looked at just one consequence of the dysfunction in our health care delivery system.
Committee staff members surveyed hospital emergency rooms in seven major cities on one Tuesday afternoon to get a snapshot of emergency room capacity, with the goal of determining if emergency rooms in these cities were capable of handling a disaster of the scale of the March 2004 terrorist train bombing in Madrid, Spain. In that attack, 15 Madrid hospitals handled a surge of nearly 1,000 injured people.
The bottom line:
The results of the survey show that none of the hospitals surveyed in the seven cities had sufficient emergency care capacity to respond to an attack generating the number of casualties that occurred in Madrid. The Level I trauma centers surveyed had no room in their emergency rooms to treat a sudden influx of victims. They had virtually no free intensive care unit beds within their hospital complex. And they did not have enough regular inpatient beds to handle the less severely injured victims. The shortage of capacity was particularly acute in Los Angeles and Washington, D.C.
Almost 60 percent of the hospital emergency rooms surveyed were operating above capacity at the time of the survey. The closest hospital to my home, Washington Hospital Center, happened to be "the single most overcrowded hospital surveyed." Its emergency room was already operating at 286 percent of capacity at the time of the survey.
In essence, this survey doesn't tell us anything that especially those of us who live in big cities don't already know: Our hospital system is badly strained on a calm day. And if that's the case, God help us if any sort of major disaster hits.
Committee chairman Rep. Henry Waxman used the report findings to highlight the damage that the Bush administration's latest Medicaid funding proposals threaten to do to hospitals:
... The level of emergency care they can provide is likely to be further compromised by three new Medicaid regulations, the first of which takes effect on May 26, 2008. According to these hospitals, the new Medicaid regulations will reduce federal payments to their facilities by $623 million per year. If the states choose to withdraw their matching funds, the hospitals could face a reduction of about $1.2 billion. The hospitals told the Committee that these funding cuts will force them “to significantly reduce services” in the future and that “loss of resources of this magnitude inevitably will lead to curtailing of critical health care safety net services such as emergency, trauma, burn, HIV/AIDS, neonatology, asthma care, diabetes care, and many others.”
Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt told the committee in prepared remarks Tuesday the rule changes exist "to restore greater accountability to the Medicaid program, while safeguarding limited resources for actual services to those individuals who rely on the Medicaid program."
That's music to McCain's ears, and it's innocuous-sounding enough until you recognize that this is more of the conservative strategy of starving the beast without doing a thing to reform the system that gave birth to the beast to begin with.
That system has not only left us with a hospital system that we can't depend on in a mass emergency, and that many of us would at risk to rely on even at a time of personal emergency. It is also a system that, as R. J. Escow recently wrote in The Huffington Post, is a form of medical apartheid—in which people of color and the poor of all colors get less, and therefore die more quickly. And the fact that hospitals in urban and people-of-color communities are chronically underfunded is no small reason why.
Getting our hospital system fixed means fixing a lot of interrelated problems, including coming up with a sensible health-care-for-all plan. This needs some of the best progressive minds in health care that we have. The fix certainly isn't going to happen by giving people the so-called freedom to shop for health care in a market where they might have to stand in line—or lie in a gurney in line—just to get in the door.
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Great post.
Bushco speaks and McCain opens his mouth and out it comes….
I want Michael Moore’s “Sicko ” shown on National TV before the election!
Yes, the problem with health care in this country is that we’re “overinsured.” Moral Hazard and all that shit. Were we all Smarter Shoppers — poof, problem solved.
Welcome Isaiah! Great dissection of the issues in play.
I love that documentary. He’s right. Some things are in fact true if if Michael Moore or Al Gore proffer them.
Great post.
If McCain really believed that everyone should buy their own insurance, he’d stop using the Senate health insurance he gets at my expense. He’d opt out and buy his own.
Of course, as a cancer survivor, he couldn’t get his own, private insurance at any price…..
I have raised that complaint with all of these free-market-uber-alles choirboys. They have no answer for that.
Just a reminder…Cliff has a McCain post this morning too. So many options…*g*
I don’t watch TV. Big whoop. But that means my exposure to The Players is limited (other than print/net).
Watched a YouTube of McCain with Jon Stewart from a night or two ago. There is something deeply disturbing about McCain’s affect. Gestures, laugh, comments. Odd, in a Dr. Strangelove way, almost.
My take is that BushCo will limit him to tightly scripted appearances. Unless . . . I read (excellent) posts like this one and can’t stop wondering if somehow or other McCain is a sacrificial goat in this election that the GOP is ceding to the Dems. Why waste a viable candidate? I can come up with no better explanation for McCain’s phoenix phenom. And every word he says, everything I read only serves to underscore that growing belief.
Ok just how is the McCain plan suppose to save me money, make drugs I need cheaper, be simpler to understand what I am and am not covered for.
I other words what does McCain’s plan accomplish? What does McCain say his plan accomplishes better than the current system or Hilary’s or Obama’s plan’s?
Universal healthcare is top on my list, even before “leave Iraq”, I have to admit. Thinking of McCain as Preznit sucks all the air/mojo out of me.
BTW. If anyone wants to make Chimpy *really* mad, contribute to Chris Murphy (CT) and Jim Himes (against Shays). They had a big fundraiser at Herr Doktor Kissingers–not to mention the disgusting ads (aided and abetted by Lieberman targeted) at freshman Dems. Below is especially for those in CT, but a few ideas and mojo for Himes may go a long way.
So here goes:
I have the impression that in most major cities we have too MANY beds and TOO much expensive diagnostic equipment.
Healthcare, if one views it as a market, is a very PECULIAR market and doesn’t respond as one might think
McBush, by the way, may be correct in thinking that a health care system that is consumer oriented might be a bit more efficient and marginally less expensive than our current employer based system. Strangely enough, big companies don’t do a great job of negotiating with the industry…Most of their deals are actually “cost plus”- about the worst system going.
Yes, ironies upon ironies. That’s the Republikans.
My favorite part of the movie is when they are in England and after treatment at the hospital they go to pay…and there is nowhere to pay, because they don’t pay, they get treated. The look on the hospital worker’s face is priceless…you don’t have to pay….
You don’t have to be in a larger metropolitan area to have over-strained hospitals. I live in a smaller city - probably 70,000 in the metro, with two hospitals(three facilities). Anyone going into the emergency room at any time, day or night, weekday or weekend, is pretty much guaranteed a wait of 6-8 hours to be seen much less get anything approaching care.
There’s a free market in health insurance here in the USA. If, as Republics claim, the market is the best solution to all problems, then everyone that wants insurance should have no problem getting insurance. However, things don’t seem to be as Republics claim. Unfortunately, reality never stops Republics from shouting thier dogma.
ads (aided and abetted by Lieberman targeted) at freshman Dems.
Holy Joe is taping ads to run against Democrats ? Sounds like a question for Harry Reid at the book club.
I think gouging med equipment companies and BigPharma feed into all this like piranas. Everyday equipment for disabled persons can be astronomically priced, I heard.
Sorry my 18 was suppose to be in response to Mui1 @12
I had to go to the ER in NYC once, because I couldn’t breathe due to a horrible upper respiratory virus…it took them 3 hours to see me, and I was freaking out, but then a guy walked over to me opened his shirt and he had 3 bullet wounds in his chest!!!…he had waited 4 hours to be seen…
If more people had access to affordable preventive and diagnostic care and timely treatment, there wouldn’t be so many of them in emergency rooms.
The best solution in my opinion is single payer universal coverage- that allows govt. to lower costs.
If we’re going to have the insurance companies involved (and I guess we are because they’re too powerful to get rid of), then it’s an open question as to whether people should negotiate directly with insurance companies or continue our historic tie of health care coverage with employment.
Employers started being the major health care procurers after WW2 as I understand it. There’s no longer a rational reason for it..
In any event- we need some regulations regarding minimum requirements for a plan and a “cover all applicants” rule. If insurance companies don’t want to play with those rules- then fuck em.
You didn’t KNOW?!? Some months ago these mysterious deceptive ads were playing constantly on local NBC in CT on FISA/Protect America. At the end it said, call Chris Murphy/Joe Courtney and tell them to “protect America” or something like that.
Here’s CT Bobs correction of the ad.
Yes let’s ask Harry Reid about this, puhleeze.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again! Our healthcare system is nothing more than a system for population control. It is the deciding factor in who lives and who dies. Hint, hint, the guy with the money is the most likely to live! Survival of the richest!
That’s a great idea that will be crushed at all costs by Republics.
Emergency rooms are crowded (I am guessing) because that part of the business is relatively unprofitable for hospitals- too many uninsured perhaps?
If everyone was insured- hospitals might staff up in that area—it’s the entrance vestibule into the hospital itself- and many who enter through that door don’t pay.
It is discouraged.
Apparently Isaiah has decided to double team us today. He already has a new post up about Hillary Declares Herself the Great White Hope!
Maybe not!
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Even fifteen or twenty years ago, you didn’t want to go to an emergency room in LA unless it was major damage or life-and-death. It’s gotten worse since then: fewer hospitals, fewer emergency rooms, more people using them.
McCain is clueless to a degree which makes him dangerous to the health of voters.
I think University Hospitals are more likely to want to be “state of the art”. My friend’s husband had a terrible Bellevue experience, after a motorcycle in NYC recently. He was left on a mattress (not a gurney?) to lie in his own blood and vomit for X number of hours, among other things.
Information for you res. Dean and DLC on the previous thread from SHS and myself.
Barbara
I sent a response back to you
thanks
At Bellevue ca.during the early 90s, I saw policemen holding a stretcher with a prisoner from Rykers Island on it. The patient looked comatose. The police officers, said he probably had pneumonia, “AIDs.”
Why weren’t the emergency people pumping that sick guy full of fluids and antibiotics, pronto? That’s what I wonder.
note for you on previous thread- according to your link- those were DEAN appointees.
I love that about the UK whether citizen or tourist, they treat everyone. You should hear mr wobbs bitch about the healthcare (lack of) here. Certainly a reason that he is sort of hinting of moving back there but then we have a nice sunny 80 degree day and it shuts him up
Uh, is it me or do we have 2 threads going at the same time?
Thanks for a meaningful and enlightening post, Isaiah.
I have a great deal of trouble getting health care shopping advice from someone who has never paid a penny, in his life, for his health care. I help pay for his health care. He does not reciprocate.
In 2002, my family drove up to Cape Breton Island for vacation. On the way, somehow my DH injured a nerve in his back and was in agony. We found a hospital in the middle of the night in St. Johns. I was sure they would not touch my husband without our paying up front — he was treated, given pills to get him through the night until we could get to a pharmacy to fill the Rx, and they sent us on our way after taking our insurance info. After our insurance company gave them a whole lot of trouble, they sent us a bill with an apology, but it was still only about $100. Bless the Canadians.
Good morning, all-
There is another option.
A few years ago, I went through a training class for insurance sales in FL…I was shocked to discover that there is a law, not sure if it’s state or Federal, that makes it illegal to form an organization for the express purpose of buying insurance. You can form a group for some other primary purpose, and then buy group insurance…but illegal to form an “insurance union”, similar to a credit union.
That puppy, and laws like it, need to be repealed. Let’s form an insurance union to negotiate for us.
Ding!!!
“I help pay for his health care.”
that is what happens when healthcare is not-for-profit.
That is a great idea!!
I have had long discussions on this issue with a guy who served on the board of a large hospital….
He claims that the doctors choose where to practice based on facilities. Now that may include covered parking and free sandwiches for docs, but it mostly means the latest diagnostic and scanning equipment for their specialty..this stuff costs LOTS of MILLIONS. The natural frequency of use of the stuff is relatively low- but every hospital has to have a zoo with one of each or the docs will go elsewhere…in order to PAY for the stuff- the hospitals ENCOURAGE it’s use- and charge the insurance companies up the ying yang for it- in order to pay the note…
Goopers want you to think that it’s lawsuits that cause too much diagnostic testing- but according to this guy- it’s partly the need to amortize that damned equipment (and pay for the technicians) that will be outdated in a few years anyway.
I see your point and how this could help individuals - but it would also create yet one more layer of profit-taking that adds no value in terms of actual health care.
Welcome, Isaiah!
Reading through that first link you provided led me to this gem:
(Emphasis added)
That’s it in a nutshell. Costs are going up too fast for the business community, so let’s come up with a way to shift the costs over to the employees!
Let’s make that rosy assumption that the company will simply pack an extra $9K on this year. OK, what will they tack on next year? Will that go up enough to cover the skyrocketting costs?
*crickets*
Oh I forgot to mention @36, that all the Rikers Island prisoners were there when my friend and I entered the Bellevue emergency room, including the comatose prisoner on the stretcher and the police officers, and were still there hours later *waiting* when we left. It makes you kinda wonder what the healthcare is like for prisoners. Inhumane and cruel treatment for petty thieves, perhaps? The guy on the stretcher was apparently in for something very petty.
This makes a lot of sense.
It is also very unfortunate, because it is my guess that the biggest gains relative to cost in terms of population health would be from making sure everyone had access to good basic health services - things like diabeties screening and treatment, pre- and post-natal care, that sort of thing.
In a nutshell, that is what is wrong with the America. Corporations
agitatepay congress to legislate against the interests of the people. Sickening.Apparently some HMOs are figuring that out. Kaiser, for example, who apparently have many problems- is very strong in THIS area.
In all fairness, the businesses have a point - they are competing with businesses in countries in which employers do not have this additional expense. It really makes no sense to me to link health insurance to employment.
Point taken; single-payer would still be the ideal solution. However, absent that, it seems having a corporate entity, such as a union, to fight against their corporate entities could be beneficial.
Consumers are much more responsive to price than corporations. If the insurance companies were forced to compete directly to consumers on the basis of price, I would expect some cost decreases, not much but some.
But I do agree that it is highly unlikely that employers would simply add the cost of benefits like health insurance to base wages.
It’s such a complicated subject I think it’s hard to draw too much cause and effect from expensive medical equipment alone. But I heard that does drive up costs. I heard Yale New Haven recently got into trouble with the testing part from Medicaid, Medicare(?) At any rate Medicare/or is it Medicaid(?) is now subjecting hospitals–think barebones state mental hospitals as well– to auditing that is beyond the call of duty in order to drive down expenses I suspect. It started in the Clinton era, but it’s getting even lousier. That is my imperfect understanding of the situation.
McMaverick has also caved to the hawks on immigration.
I think we, when trying to bargain with insurance companies as individuals, would get steamrolled. In numbers there is strength.
Too bad that St. Reagan made so many believe that unions are evil. Non union workers in a Bush economy have little individual power because employers know they have no where else to go.
Businesses may have a concern about their international competitors, but many of those competitors pay for some version of national health care through their taxes.
The answer is not to shift health care onto the free market for individual consumers — unless, of course, you are an insurance company. The answer is to push for some form of universal health care.
I have negotiated with health insurance companies representing a VERY large base of employees….
What it comes down to is this- they all want to see your claims history. They then project the total cost of coverage and add another layer to pay for their administrative costs and profit…
Corporations (or unions- or whatever) have much less leverage than you might think.
“The answer is to push for some form of universal health care.”
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Yes. And, “care,” not “coverage.”
Not only that, but a lot more people would end up being denied insurance on the basis of pre-existing conditions.
McStain knows as much about health care as he does economics.
Why is anyone even bothering to listen to this guy?
Well another way to look at it is this.
When most computers were being purchased by corporations- IBM made most of the sales and the damned things were expensive as hell- when they became a CONSUMER item, with price ads in the newpapers daily- the prices started coming down dramatically.
Lots of reasons for that of course- but the market for consumers may show much more price elasticity than that for corporate goods.
Interesting! I just left a message at the other post for Barbara, and came back here to complete some thoughts about this post, but I can no longer get back there either.
Anyway, what I wanted to say is that a trip to the emergency room played a huge role in my son’s redemption from alcoholism. That 7 hour wait to see a doctor was well worth it. He was going through a bout of bronchitis, but I also insisted that he not forget to tell the doctors that he had previously had an incident of jaundice. They did some testing, told him that he had already damaged his liver, his heart and several other internal organs were at risk. He was 36 years old at the time, and the doctors told him he wouldn’t see 40 if he didn’t quit drinking. For a short period of time, he thought he could just have an occasional beer or two, but then a doctor friend of the family who had been informed of his condition took him aside and told him that he could not get away with that and expect to live through it. That the damage had already been done and any further drinking was going to compound the damage exponentially, so he could not drink at all. That was over seven years ago, and he has not picked up another drink since then. It’s become a matter of life and death with him, all as a result of a visit to the ER. (He wouldn’t listen to family and friends telling him the same stuff!) So I really don’t want to see hospitals and emergency services underrated or caused to under-perform due to underfunding. It’s inexcusable.
Hezbollah chief says ‘War has started’
BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) — Gunfire broke out in downtown Beirut Thursday after Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah said recent government actions amount to “a declaration of open war.”
“Just in the past few minutes … things have gotten a lot worse,” CNN’s Cal Perry reported from downtown Beirut. The sound of gunfire and rocket-propelled grenades could be heard throughout his live reports.
Perry, who took cover with the Lebanese army, said government forces have not reacted yet to the violence.
The gun battles were taking place between Shiite and Sunni neighborhoods in the capital, near CNN’s Beirut Bureau.
Businesses already negotiate with insurance companies. “If we bring you X number of customers, what kind of a deal can you give us? How much of a deductible can we get? What levels of coverage will $xxx buy for us?” The HR folks I know spend a fair amount of time — much more than the average consumer could spend — researching and negotiating with different insurance companies.
Individual consumers would get the shaft, compared with the negotiating power of HR offices.
A few days ago, I once again heard mention of the right-wing talking point that with universal healthcare “healthcare will be rationed.”
By which they mean, of course, that it will be rationed for rich people. It’s already rationed for the rest of us.
True about the taxes, but I think from the corporate end, the taxes would be less that the cost of the benefits.
And I totally agree about single payer - I am after all a Canadian and am rather attached to this approach. I am not at all intending to imply that the burden for insurance should be shifted to individuals.
But surely more leverage and knowledge than individuals?
We has hiccups?
Great post, Isaiah.
Let’s all be aware that greater accountability in the Medicaid system is code for making sure that the brown and poor people don’t rip off the system. This line is like the welfare queen riding around in a cadillac or the middle class person who intentionally runs up the credit cards just to declare bankruptcy at the end of the day.
Once again, it’s okay when corporate banks are bailed out, but God forbid someone making less than $500,000 a year should benefit from anything in this country.
We have a lot of fixing to do her and I don’t think Hillary is the one to do it. We shouldn’t be surprised about the Clintons’ use of race baiting against Obama. Whenever I think of racism and segregation the first thing that pops into my head is Little Rock and the 82nd Airborne escorting kids to school. That’s the culture from which the Clintons emerged and it’s second nature for them to resort to racial hatred in order to win an election. Hell, Bubba didn’t think twice about condemning Black kids to poverty by gutting the welfare system in this country, too bad more people don’t realize that the face of welfare recipients here is more caucasian than anything else.
Good on ya, Isaiah.
i’d guess any place in the world has more functioning health care and hospitals than we do down here in new orleans… based on free market economics I can’t even get a grocery store and dry cleaner back in my neighbor hood, let alone a hospital… ours closed after Katrina and then the Catholic Church bought it for a rest home.
He gets him marching orders from the same people in the american enterprise institute as Clusterfuck. No change.
Private insurers are the root of the problem.
This is an industry which grew from individual and group risk offset to supervisors of the entire system.
The health of the entire system is not a cost-containment concern, it is public policy and as such is the domain of government, not private industry.
Or unless your objective is to help big businesses make more money, no matter how much regular people get screwed in the process. Which, from healthcare to business regulation to the environment and more, is basically the position of the GOP.
Private insurers are what we in economics call a market friction, it’s well-known that when you have a middle man like that it leads to market failure eventually. Investment banks, real estate agents, all financial institutions are ‘market frictions’. That basically means the market can’t function like it should under pure capitalism. In this case, it’s because of information asymmetries.
Kind of difficult to build a community if you don’t have the services you need to serve the residents.
Well I was the HR VP for a pretty large corporation and I’m sharing my experience. Sure we spent a lot of time on it- and did “plan redesign” to save a few bucks- but the bottom line is your COST history- and you can’t run away from it..
The insurance companies want to know how healthy your work population is and they get that through your claims history….
The bottom line is that companies pay the cost of their claims plus administrative fees and profit from the insurance company.
I want the full Congress, both Houses, to be forced to view Michael Moore’s Sicko and some other related PBS shows as a requirement they must complete and prove before they can be sworn in. Many of these people are woefully ill-equipped to handle the subject without some crash courses! Many seem not to know what they’re doing at all! In fact, I would go so far as to say that they’re in denial. Some say we can’t afford it; I don’t see how we can afford not to have a national healthcare plan. As it stands, the drug companies and HMOs, etc. are “profiting” us right out of our most important natural resources…our people.
No kidding. We don’t have many things most U.S. citizens take for granted any more inside the City lines. If you don’t have a car to go to the outlying suburbs, you are REALLY f**cked.
You can sometimes switch companies and get a somewhat lower rate for the first year- but you’ll end up right back where you started as your claims history unfolds.
I don’t disrespect hospitals or emergency services. I think treatment varies wildly in this country. If a patient goes to Yale New Haven, he/or she may be tested for things he/she already knows is wrong with them(heart problems), even if he/she come in with a broken arm, before the arm is treated. Or the patient might receive expert care. Or the patient might lie around in the emergency room, while 10 residents fly around bumping into each other, until the head honcho makes a pronouncment. If a prisoner goes to Bellevue, the patient may die of pneumonia while waiting on a stretcher carried by the police. If a person in the army gets a head injury from an accident, they lie around on a stretcher outside the waiting room for X amount of hours, then die months later, because the army hospital did a catscan but not the other test– even with symptoms like blindness and splitting headaches etc. (true story. my ex died this way)
By the way, most who have health care coverage can save some money by looking carefully at the alternatives…
I was paying $600 per month for a plan with a $300 annual deductible-switched to a $1200 annual deductible and my costs went down to $400 per month..same insurance company.
How can anyone not understand McMoney’s health care promise…if you can’t afford health care you DON’T get any.
Well the effect, is more like they are gutting state hospitals that have already been gutted by corrupt Repuke governors.
And, completely and utterly Off Topic, but regarding Scott Bloch’s activities and any connection to the Don Siegelman case…
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/....._0508.html
“The investigation was being conducted by a task force formed at the agency a year ago to pursue high-profile political investigations in Washington, most notably whether the White House played politics in firing U.S. attorneys. It began gathering information on the Siegelman case in September and was planning to request documents from the Justice Department in October before Special Counsel Scott Bloch ordered the case closed…”
For all the energy and enthusiasm people have for rebuilding, if New Orleans cannot attract businesses that actually serve residents, it is going to be extremely difficult to rebuilt the city. I think Mr. and Mrs. Pitt should be consulting with people such as Magic Johnson to bring their entrepreneurial success to New Orleans and do it right now. Let’s see - one small strip mall per neighborhood that contains a grocery store, a dry cleaners, a gas station, a laundramat and a coffee shop would make a pretty decent start.
So you’re saying that “pre-existing” conditions applies to corporate purchasers of insurance? How, then, do individuals have any more leverage than a corporate purchaser? The benefit of large numbers is what corporations have to use for leverage, which individuals by definition lack.
OT.
I find the reports that Hezbollah is now stating that the Lebanese Govt. has declared war a pretty disturbing event.
This could be an effort by the US and Israel to tie up Hezbollah internally so that they will be less able to respond to an attack on Iran and Syria. The one that is being ginned up as we read and write. John Bolton just stated that it would be prudent for Bush to strike Iran AND Syria while he’s at it.
Bush also just re-upped sanctions on Syria.
Move the apocalypse clock ahead by 10 minutes.
-G
Well, for some reason, the emphasis has not been on making the city livable for folks. A lot of these people have been focused on getting poor people back into houses. However, if they have no health care, no grocery stores, etc., they come home to nothing but endless blocks of abandoned houses and empty lots and no community. Our police department was operating out of FEMA trailers until a few local business folks redid an old furniture store for them. We have skyrocketing crime right now, and our police stations are not operational.
Just to give you some of the bleak reality, I was sitting in my neighborhood watering hole on Sunday talking to some friends. Two of them left. Not but a few minutes later, the building shock and it sounded like an explosion. A woman driving a big huge truck, learning how to drive in our really skinny old streets, hit the accelarator and rammed into 4 folks talking on the sidewalk. The friend I had just been talking to was in pieces on the sidewalk. We dialed 911. First response, the national guard who wouldn’t do anything because they didn’t have ‘gloves’. Fortunately a nurse living on the street started CPR. Then the police show up and wander around aimlessly. TWO hook and ladders show up. By the time the EMS shows up, which was probably 5 minutes -10 minutes later. He’s dead. We don’t have enough of anything down here. The last thing we need is for them to move more vulnerable populations here.
Speaking of hospitals I hope folks will drop in the previous thread with a kind word for QuakerGirl.
That’s what you get every time you opt for a higher deductible - it because you’ll pay more upfront before the insurance will pay anything.
It’s great, if you have that kind of money available when you need it.
All of those police and fire station rebuilding contracts were outsourced to Iraq.
-G
While I’m sure you’re right about the inconsistency of treatment depending largely on the facility itself or sometimes on the skill of the particular practitioner that you drew, I must say that the ER my son visited that did so much good in our case was one of the most overtaxed big city ERs in the area. I guess you just never know!
No- I’m not saying that at all. I’m only saying that the leverage employers have in buying insurance is probably over estimated…that’s all- and it’s possible that if we had proper regulation on insurance companies including making em take all applicants at the same age adjusted costs (as they do with corporate customers), it’s possible that the consumer market could lead to slightly lower costs overall. Consumers should also be allowed to buy health insurance with pre tax dollars as employees do.