At a time when progressives are calling for unity so that we can get on to the business of ending this mad era of the Bush administration, Sen. Hillary Clinton has unfortunately taken a step in the opposite direction.
Her interview with USA Today, in which she presents herself as the candidate with the "broader base" because Sen. Barack Obama was not getting the support of "hard-working Americans, white Americans," came at the worst possible moment. Her comments were inflammatory at a time when both her supporters and Obama's need her to be healer.
Jack and Jill Politics points out how out of line her comment was:
This kind of comment is less a description than an agitator, it's meant to give white voters the impression that they would be "disenfranchised" by an Obama win. It's a not so subtle effort to evoke racial resentment over Obama's success.
Their post goes on to cite one reason she should know better: Her own husband in 1996 won re-election even though he only won 43 percent of the white vote overall and only 38 percent of the white male vote. The voters that Clinton says she has that she claims Obama can't get -- in her words to USA Today, "whites ... who had not completed college" -- have never in recent history been essential to Democrats winning the White House. On the other hand, Democrats are guaranteed to lose when the people who have gravitated to Obama -- African Americans and young progressives of all colors -- decide to stay home on Election Day.
Clinton has already displayed a disturbing propensity for using the racial divide within the Democratic party to her advantage. The win in Pennsylvania that was crucial to keeping her campaign alive was largely due to the 12 percent of white voters (according to a CNN exit poll) who said that race was a factor in their decision. Seventy-six percent of those voters pulled the lever for Clinton.
The African-American community has roundly rejected her piling on to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright controversy, the racist undertone of her infamous "3 a.m. call" ad and her allowing people like Black (or is it Booty-shaking?) Entertainment Television founder Bob Johnson to toss into the fire slanderous innuendos that Clinton's white surrogates would love to say, but don't have the, shall we say, "testicular fortitude" to.
The progressive movement and the country cannot afford this. At a time when, as Clinton herself remarked the other night, the division within the Democratic Party needs to be healed, she has torn that wound open again. At the very least, she needs to repudiate the implication of these remarks and apologize to the hard-working African Americans she's insulted here.
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So, Isaiah!
Am I seeing double or have you posted once at 8:30 and another post at 8:44. Trying to double team us, are you, Isaiah Poole?
You can always count on a Clinton to try to be whatever they think you want them to be.
I got pounded on my blog site for saying that HRC scares the hell out of me. Ruthless racist radically self-absorbed. I. Do. Not. Like. Her. Sam. I. Am.
And don’t forget Cliff’s post too.
Isaiah, so glad to have you here. I always enjoy reading your columns. thanks.
I don’t think blue collar workers are any more racist than the rest of us I think they like a person who fights hard Hilary is doing that now.
We have had 2 presidential candidates who did not fight when Bush stole Florida and then Ohio.
However Hilary is fighting with racist attacks is Mark Penn her strategy
guy or Karl Rove. I think you can fight dirty without being racist people like Karl, Penn and Hillary just lack imagination.
“hard working white Americans…”
Unlike those shiftless blacks and hispanics.
That is really pathetic, HRC.
Barack Obama was not getting the support of “hard-working Americans, white Americans,
Whites are the majority the contest is almost over so how then is Obama leading you in the popular vote without hard working whites?
Is Karl doing your “math” homework for you?
I guess she’ll dress like a Nazi if she thinks it’ll help her get the nomination. At least she’s blonde.
Thank goddess that the primary results prove that blue collar workers aren’t buying the race baiting…some probably are, but obviously most of them aren’t.
She is pre-viewing the Gooper strategy…maybe on purpose.
Rev. Jeremiah Wright controversy, the racist undertone of her infamous “3 a.m. call” ad
Hilary is stealing all the attacks McCain wanted his swift boaters to use in the fall I wonder if that was the secret plan?
After all all the shock value of Rev Wright, white voters won’t vote for an African American etc are getting brought out in the open now and being digested and REJECTED BY THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS NOW.
So what will McCain’s swiftboaters have left to lie about?
McCain’s swiftboaters will just make stuff up.
I’m with you! What’s more, I used to be a big fan of the Clintons. But this campaign has been shameful!
Barbara, if you have a blog, why doesn’t it show that you have a url to go to? You might get more traffic, some from here might be inclined to visit if you would let us know how to get there from here.
*raises hand* shiftless here
As soon as your born they make you feel small,
By giving you no time instead of it all,
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.
They hurt you at home and they hit you at school,
They hate you if you’re clever and they despise a fool,
Till you’re so fucking crazy you can’t follow their rules,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.
When they’ve tortured and scared you for twenty odd years,
Then they expect you to pick a career,
When you can’t really function you’re so full of fear,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.
Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV,
And you think you’re so clever and classless and free,
But you’re still fucking peasents as far as I can see,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.
There’s room at the top they are telling you still,
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
If you want to be like the folks on the hill,
A working class hero is something to be.
A working class hero is something to be.
If you want to be a hero well just follow me,
If you want to be a hero well just follow me.
Dress like a Nazi?
Barbara, why don’t you link your name on FDL to your site?
I love the explanation that he can’t get the hard working whites ( I guess you prius driving, latte drinking eilites don’t work hard) but the blacks would vote for her if she was the nominee. The assumption is also interesting…that is that blue collar whites vote based upon skin color (hence her beating Obama). What happens in the GE against McCain? He is just as white maybe even whiter
(spluttering)…What?
Am I the only one who just returned from the Nederlands of Word Press “Access Denied”…???
Whew….
Is anyone experiencing ‘technical’ difficulties with getting through to FDL?
Very strange LS, very strange.
Can you read me?
A Ok.
Yep.
LS and DWBartoo -
read ya both - got the same message - looks like a behind the curtain issue
Wanted to apologize to everyone for the strange disappearance and reappearance of this post. Isaiah’s new to the crew, and accidentally hit “Publish” before we were ready to actually fit into the schedule and give it an edit. The post has been subsequently edited. — Dave
wow. must have been the hard working white gremlins
I’m scared shiftless.
Can we start talking about misogyny now? I’m getting tired of sexism.
Also, WP has been experiencing difficulties. Other sites have been down during this period as well. And you’ll notice other lingering problems (Isaiah’s mug and ID have temporarily disappeared, for instance). We’re working to fix it all ASAP!
Well, back to HRC…I’ve really refrained from saying anything really negative about her, but I just don’t understand that someone as intelligent as she is would stoop to such disgusting tactics…It is painful.
Is she thinking this stuff up herself? Has she lost her mind and is just following the advice or people who clearly seem to want to destroy her?…in any case, she shouldn’t even have or entertain the kinds of thoughts that lead to the kinds of comments she’s been making. I’m at a loss.
thanks david
wobbs -
you left out “NPR tote totin” - and what an obvious but so far ignored excellent point you make
Glad to know it wasn’t personal…hee, hee…we’ll be patient…the new changes are all for the better in any case…
legacy be damned?
Certainly relieved to learn it was an ‘inside’ job, Dave …
thanks for the addition. i had forgotten about that.
IMO, the best way to respond to Hillary is to ask her what she means by “white?” Does Derek Jeter count? What about ARod? What about Halle Berry? How about Jessica Alba, is she really white? What about Joe Torre? Does Hillary intend to let the Italians “in” too? What about the Irish? Do “the whites” have to let them “in” too? Hitler said the Poles and Russians were not in the club, because they were slavs? Does Hil agree? Does Hillary have a court she can appeal to in case there is a disagreement about who is really “white?” What if Spike Lee asserts that he is “white?” Is Hil going to allow that?
Sorry no question mark. It was a statement.
What does she mean by white?
She didn’t mean the likes of Derek Jeter or Halle Berry because they are exactly like Barack (bi-racial). She said hard working whites. i got what she meant. She is throwing chum into the water
Someone please tell me why she’d do this
http://www.oliverwillis.com/in.....r-clinton/
This is so sad
I think she is stressed, angry, scared and exhausted. And the real Hillary and Hillary’s real beliefs are coming to the surface. She’s not in good enough to censor/edit herself.
At least that is my theory at the moment.
Up until now I gave her (partially) the benefit of the doubt on some of the things she has said. This is utterly beyond the pale.
I haven’t given any money to a Presidential candidate since $100 to Edwards. I may have to throw $20 to Obama as a hardworking “white” man. And I’ll be sure to tell Hillary.
I must say that HRC is dealing very well with things ….
NOT!
Pathetic, sad and quite destructive.
I’m sure glad she’s a ‘grown-up’ and above adolescent petulance …
queue the Jaws music
That was just a accident! You should see what I do to Powerline whenever I’m in a foul mood. If you all ever aggravate me, It’s possible that you’ll get back on! As you can see, all it takes is the inadvertent thought…
the post-Tuesday buzz was to “give Hillary space” to find a way to exit gracefully. she doesn’t seem inclined to make good use of that space.
Never get back on…
You know…it’s almost as if she’s revealing herself….how to explain it? I feel like I’m in a time warp…I’ve had friends who have said for years that “they” are all the same…and I discounted it…it is a little scary.
I can’t think of any circumstance on earth at all that would validate defining working Americans by race…none. Unless…that is what the person making those comments is really thinking.
If she’s revealing those thoughts..then maybe we are lucky that she is now…so, if she ends up as VP nominee…what then? We’d have McCain - racist on the R side, and an apparently racist Dem VP…
Obama, if he is the nominee, should probably not put her on the ticket. I never thought I would say that, but I think the racism is completely unnacceptable.
She’s either racist or stupid.
There are some lazy, shiftless lobbyists working on Hillary’s campaign. The ten million dollar man Mark Penn did not even know about Democratic delegate selection. Maybe, that is because Penn is not a Democrat. Worst campaign ever.
http://www.time.com/time/polit.....31,00.html
Hello, Hillary, if you don’t mind my addressing you so informally …
There are real and serious issues and actual lives at stake.
Do you care?
Thanks for the update. FWIW, cbl used to have a back up place to provide info (browser specific etc). When we’ve had down time before, a lot of use to head over to tnh when emptywheel was there, can’t do that anymore.
my husband just came home from work (Pacific time zone) and said “I’m taking the afternoon off. I don’t want anyone to confuse me with one of those hardworking Hillary supporters.”
I think she’s finally come unhinged.
I guess hiring Mark Penn proves that she’s “educated” but stupid.
Maybe she’s having a nervous, racist breakdown.
To Lurking Moderator,
The website appears to be on the Friz. EW, in particular. Site is popping up with February’s comments instead of May 8th’s.
TQ.
I hesitate in calling her racist but if I have to say that this is another example of poor judgement. Now she has really pissed off a bunch of folks in the party. before this gets any worse, shut it down. is this her grand move? assist him in becoming unelectable? i dunno
On the other hand, her exit may include becoming a Republic. What better way to do that than by race-baiting? It’s not something that can be done gracefully.
I’d let Spike outta this one. He’s already on record with his opinion of Massah Clinton.
707
i just fell off my chair
I suspect that HRC is becoming bitter …
But it was my turn, goddamit !!!
I wuz the frontrunner !!!
her (white) sheets came out of the dryer with static cling
she’s trying to channel George Wallace.
BooRadley: unofficial refuge is http://windcatpond.blogspot.com/
I’m on hold with Senator Clinton’s DC office, (202) 224-4451. I am going to explain to them that I don’t think the ADL (Anti-defamation League) is going to be very happy with her comments about “white” people. A lot of “white” people don’t consider the semitic peoples, ethnic Jews, as “white?”
Well she did say that were she a Repuplic that she would have clinched ‘it’ by now …
I’ve seen you do this before and I like it. If somebody in the MSM doesn’t ask Hillary what she means by white, perhaps FDL and other DFH’s from the tubes ought to ask her. Is Halle Berry white? Is Jessica Alba white? Which whites work hard and which ones do not?
disappointed once again. i wonder how much more chum she will throw in the water before she finally departs
WE must be careful, punaise, or we shall be accussed of suggesting that HRC and her followers are clannish …
Much appreciated.
As you know, I’m a big believer that we’re all one race, the human race.
Thank you. I lost my bookmarks.
they are half white just as obama is so she doesn’t mean them at all. She is going after a certain dempgraphic because WV and Kentucky are coming up. this is calculated. if you don’t see that, take a step back and look at her campaign from Super tuesday on.
that’s nothing. I lost my earmarks.
Well, Boo, if you are going to put it that way.
I’d say you.are.right!!!!
So, Hillary continues to find things that aren’t there.
hehehe
I have earmarks from a lousy barber
I hesitated to call her racist too, but there is no doubt that she is differentiating American voters by citing the color of their skin as a particular “sub-group” of “working Americans”. That is racist in my book.
Is Obama doing the same thing? …is he asking for votes from “black XXXX hard-working American voters”???? If he is, then he’s doing it too, but at the moment I can’t think of an example…maybe he is…I dunno.
McCain already proved his racism…so forget him.
WINNAH!
just got back from a
racistPro Hillary site - izzal about WV and KYand apparently I’m back on double secret commenter probation - anyone else ?
Pastels…
and dear gaia, what does this say to her much vaunted latino bloc ???
I have been on this site for the past year or so commenting on the Clintons. It has not been a pleasant experience because my comments have been negative concerning the Clintons. They are dangerous because they are so shallow and self-serving. Obama has to marginalize them as quickly as possible.
She put aside the dog whistle for the megaphone to scream her racist rant. No help needed, she grew up next
to Skokie and lived in Arkansas for a dcade. It could be the mid phase of a meltdown in public by a major
figure in a political campaign for all the world to see. It is truly sad and damaging to the country for this
personal saga to continue with no end in sight. I hope the meetings going on now can at least moderate the
rhetoric during the remainder of the campaign if not end it soon. Grace under pressure… right. Ready to
handle nukes… right. Bring us together… right.
4biddn axxeSSSS
No, he is doing that whole we-are-more-similar-than-different thing.
It is just very disappointing. Even if she did win the nomination how does she figure to reconcile all of the groups she has been dissin
Ok, I went there to check it out and now, everything is … well … fuchsia, and I’m even more con-fuchsia-ed
IMHO, Hillary is engaging in a very specific vein of racism, “white supremacy.”
A lot of what I call European Americans get a lot of mileage out of calling people like Al Sharpton a racist. I think that impact is blunted when we use more specific language. Sharpton may have made statements that were consistent with black supremacy. Historically, however,it’s the “white supremacists,” who have dominated the United State, politically and economically and driven the discussion.
Calculated? Yikes. That’s even worse.
Bullseye.
looks like I’m in the dog house too… :~(
Ah, ‘normal’ again … well almost … I was nevah ‘normal’ ….
It’s true that Hillary gets more of the white vote- particularly the working white vote- than Obama-
It’s also true that it could be an important difference in the fall- when we get to Ohio and Pennsylvania…
Is it racist to say so?
she never had this latina (i’m young, college educated and have been known to drink lattes and have test driven a prius)
when is hillary going to stop talking out the vent of her pantsuits?
Enough BS already.
I was in a ”healing” mood yesterday when everyone said she was going to stay in order to leave ”gracefully” and with ”respect”. My hubby didn’t buy a minute of it, saying they say this after every primary and come back out swinging.
Haven’t we had enough doubletalk?
Say it isn’t so, two of my favorite all-time commenters.
I agree. She opened her mouth and it came out of it.
On Tweety…Wolfson is spinning like mad….
Ummm..ummm…wh…wh…white…but then 2 seconds later…he starts it allover again.
White voters, white voters, white voters….
Racism.
Is it financial suicide to let a bank fail?
I don’t think Hillary is racist, I think she’ll do whatever it takes to win. Including appealing to racism.
Boxturtle (Wonder what Maggie Williams thinks of that)
Zackly what my hubby said…gee he’s smart!
It was when George Wallace did it 40 years ago.
How do you know you are on “probation”…if you are, I must be…
Scary? maybe bit nonetheless it is a calculated move on her campaign’s part. She knows that she can’t win certain blocks so she is going to play up the bubba vote. But we all know that come the GE, they may vote McCain.
Let’s stop for a moment and consider.
Were HRC to return to her ‘roots’ and join (rejoin?)the Republik Party
would we be any worse off?
“show text” is not working. Just FYI.
I think the “show text” thing is great BTW.
Xactly.
I think Obama is very smart to go after the young, urban vote - both for his own success and the future of the party.
Lots of ways to slice the demographics, and I am getting pretty damn sick of seeing it sliced along racial lines.
No, she is already there, it is just that quite a few Democrats do not realize it.
has anyone else commented on the fact that a lot of goopers including bubbas are so disgusted with their party they will vote for Hillary? I mean she just one step away from being R that it isn’t that much of a stretch. But I don’t think those that vote for her in the primary due to their disgust will stop being disgusted if she’s not the nominee.
just a thought.
This hard-working older white female wasn’t supporting Clinton before. I may send Obama some green, though, after that piece o’cr*p.
She’s toast. Someone have some butter and cinnamon sugar?
was getting the “your comments are awaiting moderator approval” message
freaked out a little when it happened a few weeks back - cast out - oy
It’s a huge slap in the face to liberals/progressives. She’s dragging the entire Democratic party back towards the extreme right. Obama has no choice but to follow.
I suspect all of their hard behind the curtain was just rolled back by a Wordpress “upgrade” :o(
Wolfson’s eyes seem to be betraying him…he looks to the left and blinks while he states that HRC is staying in to the end…
Yes and may I say that I think people of all color are tired of being lumped into one big fat group as though they all think alike. Now that’s racist!
I think her plan is to make Obama unelectable so the supers HAVE to select her. I’ve felt that ever since Super Tuesday made the depth of Obamas support clear.
Boxturtle (And we continue to feed on ourselves)