Login Here
Pablo Klaatu Hussein Dobbs Obama
Last night's results apparently mean that it is almost all over but the wanking.
It is now that sacred time in the election cycle in which the Republicans are allowed to focus their efforts on spreading stories of Barack Obama's secret "Illegal Space-Alien-Undocumented Mexican, Islamic, six-fingered, love-child...BATBOY!"
Which also means, for us Democrats, it is time to sing, time for us, the greatest political party on Earth...or various other planets...to once again come together and show the world we can make the most sincere and treacly commercials ever made by an imperial power AND elect a Democrat President. Suck. On. This. Andorra!
For example, some of us remember, the commercial that ended the bombing of Cambodia, Vietnam, the GOP, and of course, Pepsi. Thank you Faux Hippies.
Time to start up the debate about which awesome, yet completely non-offensive, individual with a mysterious past in what Steve Doocy will call a "madrassa", Obama will pick as Vice-President. Your nominations please.
(pic from flesh hammer...that's right, flesh hammer)
Share This 
Spotlight
Hi Attaturk.
I think he should pick Christy as VP. But since she said she will not run or serve, then perhaps Sen. Webb. Or John Edwards. Someone Southern, but not necessarily a senator.
Hi.
Sorry for the bizarre post, but less sleep than usual and the caffeine high forced me into it. Hopefully, it works.
1,835 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Attaturk and the crazy Early Mornin’ Firepup Freedom Fighters:
“Time ta start up the debate about which awesome…individual…Obama will pick as his Vice-President.”
Al Gore!
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, WE GOTTA GET THIS GUY’S BACK!!!
Do we ever.
nite you Patriots.
Tomorrow we saddle-up for real.
1,835 dayz and the killin’ goez on and on and…
Watch out Raven…somebody might hear ya and wonder which one yer talkin’ about!!
Night Newt.
John Edwards, if he’s interested. Working folks. Southerners. … Plus insurance against right-wing assassins. Don’t pick anyone they might prefer.
And now g’nite for real.
What did Andorra ever do to you Attaturk?
Let’s be very careful with the disaster scenarios.
Now that Obama is the presumptive nominee, I think some level of disaster may have been deserted.
Apparently, this theme has me hopped-up on the goofballs.
http://rising-hegemon.blogspot.....andal.html
damn! I love that prairie dog!!
Now now, there there
very odd!
Gopher Kong
Here’s my nominations:
First, I wish he’d pick John Edwards, but he won’t. Not good strategy.
Strategy-wise, I’d suggest someone who is White (to help reassure the blue collar workers that he’s been losing to Hillary), and has good foreign policy credentials, preferably from Ohio or Pennsylvania, and who has “gravitas” is more “mature” but not perceived as “old.”
These come to mind:
Joe Biden (FoPo experience)
Chris Dodd
Hmm. I don’t have the time to think. Need to do some serious snoring.
Bob in HI
“Last night’s results apparently mean that it is almost all over but the wanking.” Not quite. Don’t be lulled into thinking something positive about the democratic primaries ending. Hillary will never concede. Her intentions are to eff up the convention. She’s too Machiavellian to let facts and numbers impede her.
It’s always good to see my fellow West Virginian, Bat Boy!
Colin Powell for Obama’s vp. He has the gravitas, he knows where the bodies are buried, and I think he has a very deep desire to try to fix the wrongs committed by the Bush administration.
morning. i don’t have any vp nominations…. other than please, please not a clinton.
Sleep Bob.
amen!
No fucking way
Um, I like John Edwards for Attorney General. Does that count?
So where ya putting Pat Fitzgerald?
hmm
Supreme Court?
Alongside LHP, of course and Mary.
and I’m only leaving out christy because someone said she wouldn’t serve…
Mary? Or Marcy?
Mary - from a long time back in FDL time. Marcy isn’t a lawyer, is she? I thought she was a business consultant…
IF she is a lawyer I apologize. I always appreciated her other talents, like pie.
Marcy is not an attorney, just an extraordinary intellect.
Good morning all.
uh, as I was telling someone earlier this eve, a friend of mine put forth the idea that Sam Nunn would be Obama’s VP nomination. Ponder that!
Morning.
Well my pain medicine is helping a bit. Going to try to get some more sleep.
1,835 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Bobzim:
“Colin Powell for Obama’s VP. He has the gravitas. He knows where the bodies are buried…”
Oh Jesus, he has been bagman for two fuckin’ disasterous wars of empire and occupation. He has helped fuck up more one car junk yards than any other bagman-house servant and yes he knows where the bodies are buried ‘cuz he buried some of ‘em. He did his best impression of Michaelangelo and put a coat a whitewash on one of the most horrific massacures of the Vietnam war….no, Colin Powell has done enough damage.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, WE GOT A LEADER NOW WE GOTTA RUN POINT FOR ‘IM!!
HELL NO!!
please no.
Y zat?
hey VG - good to see you, it’s been awhile.
Welcome back Citizen Valley Girl…where ya been sister?
Point, drag and slack,
A) Powell did everything he could short of resigning to stop the Iraq War.
B) He was a soldier, and if you’ve ever been in the military, you know that that requires one to do some serious moralistic rationalizing.
C) Obama will have to have moderate Republicans accepting high ranking positions in his administration very soon or he eaves himself open to foreign policy attacks.
Colin Powell should at least be Secretary of Defense, but I think vp would be better.
If it were up to me it would be John Edwards.
Norske and others- I been off focusing on the travails of academic duty- Freshman Seminar with general theme of “science and the citizen”. At least they all hate Bush, but I had to do damage control on other contentious topics, that damage control one my part still hugely consuming.
You have no idea who you are talking too bubbah.
I really haven’t heard a viable suggestion as to Obama’s VP, but this is a question I have been asking myself for months.
howdy bobzim
A1.. he could have refused to lie to the american people and he could have refused to lie at the UN.
A2. he could have told the american people the truth.
B. he was secretary of state. that is a civilian position. if he can’t leave his military rationalizations behind then as SOS, then i don’t see how he can be trusted to do that as VP.
C. because the Rs have shown how competent their foreign policy is, the Ds had better follow their lead.
He returned to Vietnam from 1968 to 1969 where he served as the executive officer and later as the assistant chief of staff of operations for the Americal Division (the 23rd Infantry Division) with the rank of Major, was charged with investigating a detailed letter by Tom Glen (a soldier from the 11th Light Infantry Brigade), which backed up rumored allegations of the My Lai Massacre. Powell wrote: “In direct refutation of this portrayal is the fact that relations between Americal soldiers and the Vietnamese people are excellent.” Later, Powell’s assessment would be described as whitewashing the news of the massacre, and questions would continue to remain undisclosed to the public
1,835 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
“Powell did everything he could short of resigning to stop the Iraq war.”
Now help me out here…who was it that stood before the United Nations and spoke of the aluminum tubes and the advanced weapons and biological instruments? No Citizen, Colin Powell was a bagman for the Iraq war jest like he was a bagman for Vietnam. Once he found out that the information he used at the UN was known ta be fake he shoulda resigned immediately…he didn’t becuase that’s not what bagmen do.
KEEP THE FAITH THERE ARE PLENTY OF GOOD CANDIDATES, WE DON’T NEED EMPTY SUITS WITH BAGGAGE!!
edwards works for me.
uh, hey Raven- you up early and I up late, Georgia Daylight Time. Yep ;)
Bout normal for me.
Raven, Norske, Powell is def. a non-starter. He’s gone. Uh, My Lai? What else does anyone need to know?
He wasn’t there, this was after. Still stinks,
I didn’t go to the 25th Anniversary of the Wall because he was they keynote. Fuck him.
selise, I voted for Edward’s in the GA primary, even tho he was not really a contender any more. But, I just don’t see him as realistic possibility for Obama’s VP.
what Georgia, where are you?
Raven- I know he wasn’t at My Lai. But, huge hand in whitewashing that later, irrc.
was only thinking of the optics - southern white male.
btw, i leaned edwards but was never a supporter (based on his record in the senate).
see raven’s comment @50
Raven- 30307 zip. John Lewis is my House rep.
1,835 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Bobzim:
“…if you’ve ever been in the military you know that that reqires one to do some serious moralistic rationalizing.”
Brother Bob, there are a few of us around here who know a lot about the military…been there, done that and goin’ back two generations. As for moral rationalizing, I have shared my experience with the dark side with my FDL brothers and sisters…ya ken go hunt down a couple in the archieves from 2004 or ask a couple a old timers. Because of our experience in and respect for the military as it has been intended over the last two centuries, most of us feel the same way the founders did, that is: limit the standin army, make sure it’s dependant on local militia (read this as the draft), and DON’t under any circumstances elect professional military to positions of executive authority.
The last thing we need is more professional yes-men from the military in positions of administration…in fact we gotta get the miltary the hell out of politics and administration and put ‘em back ta doin’ what they do best and under civilian orders.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, WAR IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR POLITICS!
selise- yeap I read raven’s comment@50. Didn’t mean to plagiarism him! ;)
Well shut my mouth! DO you teach at one of our fine state institutions? I work for the BOR.
Of course I don’t - we’re all anonymous. do you pull that “Do you Know who I am?!?!” crap in the airport? No? Then don’t try to use it here.
If Powell had resigned over every discrepancy, his influence, badly needed, would have been as useless as one of the bombed out tanks we passed on the road to Baghdad.
Grow up.
You cannot be serious.
not exactly- my undergrads are emeroids. Uh, I trust you can figure that out! ;)
Nice comeback. And I’m very serious.
Yup, some of my pals are over there, saw the Dali there when I was at Tech.
nite all, I crash now.
Jeeze I get up late for a dip in the lake and what do I find. A bunch of kids splashing around and making silly noises.
Well how bout this genius, when did I say “do you know who I am”? I wasn’t talking about me.
so go back to bed
Good Morning Attaturk and Firedogs -
ooh totally kewl crew this early am - hey Valley Girl - good to see ya
umm, Sam Nunn ???, kinda fits the profile - southern, defense/security bona fides. . . (not my pick btw) but have been thinking either nominee would be courting a Zinni type if not the Zinni
Morning everybody, I fell asleep before it was all over, is it all over?
1,835 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Bobzim:
Your disrespect of people you don’t know who have much experience and wisdom from that experience and who have given a full measure servin’ their country leads me to conclude that you are a troll and therefore you don’t exist here anymore.
KEEP THE FAITH AND WATCH OUT YOU DON’T FUCK WITH THE BULL AND GET THE HORNS!!
Yeah, well, I don’t see where expecting perfection from our leaders is very realistic. The evidence is overwhelming that Powell did his best at trying to slow down the run-up to the Iraq War. Watch the Frontline doc on it. Powell is a good man who was among evil-doers.
call me an idiot, but i’m going to jump in here.
bobzim - a person request: please give don’t jump on folks with personal attacks like “grow up” it makes it hard (and unpleasant) to have conversations about issues and it’s counter to the progressive values of solidarity and respect. thank you.
Don’t feed the creatures under the bridge, Citizen Selise.
“You have no idea who you are talking too bubbah.” sounds pretty damn “Do you know who I am” to me.
Per the election–
Although I’m sad that Clinton won Indiana, I am so proud of Indiana voting Obama in such high numbers…the closeness of the election shows that he does have support here.
One can only wonder, though, how many voters who would have voted for Obama were turned away because they didn’t have the proper ID–see the story on the ten nuns who were turned away and subsequently, the rest of the order didn’t even attempt to vote.
The evidence is that he did not stand up to these nutfucks instead he kept his mouth shut and let thosands of people be murdered. Not so good
I, for one, wish for a VP choice who will be purely political during the campaign , then settle in to the role of attending State weddings and funerals in places not deemed important enough for the President.
Other strengths should be less obvious.
In other words, I want one Commander in Chief, counseled by a SecDef and Joint Chiefs and a competent cabinet.
There should be one military chain of command.
A SecDef with a strong military background: is great for any President, not so much the VP.
Good morning, pups. It’s MoDo and Friedman today. MoDo says “Butterflies Aren’t Free,” and asks a question: Hillary Clinton is so at odds with who she used to be, even in the Senate, that if she were to get elected, who would voters be electing? Mr. Friedman writes about “The Democratic Recession,” and says that we need to do everything possible to develop alternatives to oil to weaken the petro-dictators.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and I’ve got lemon poppyseed muffins just out of the oven. Please don’t give a muffin to the creature under the bridge — it only encourages them. Have a grand day.
Are you speaking of the piece they did recently on the war? Because it was lame.
Thanks to you selise I knew about and watched the House Judiciary yesterday about torture. The WH had one apologist there (Rivkin). What a ahole. I guess the WH must all love torture.
I get jumped on for a legitimate VP suggestion, get “You have no idea who you’re talking to bubbah”, I defend my assertions, and now I’m a troll?!?! WTF?!?!
i thought that was a good hearing too. when the HJC posts their archived webcast, i will try to rip an mp3 for folks to put on their ipods.
Edwards said clearly he wouldn’t take the VP position. My recommendation would be Jim Webb. He is a Southerner, ex-military, and has, um, “fortitude.” Plus, it wouldn’t risk a Senate seat. (He isn’t up for election, and our Governor is a Democrat.)
the one thing that really bothered me about the hearing was the quote from schumer - i didn’t know that he was such an apologist for torture. no wonder he thought mukasey would make a good AG.
was just thinking about Voter ID and how it failed it’s supporters abysmally (so very 04 doncha know)
- it’ll be interesting to read how it was beat back in large urban centers like Indy and in concentrated populaces like Gary - and hey Raven - will be really interesting to see what if any of it was due to Obama gotv/ground game
1,835 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Valley Girl:
You teach undergrads at Emory U?
What a great gig!
KEEP THE FAITH AND KEEP ON KEEPIN ON!!
I like Webb, but his star is on the rise and we need his voice in the senate. The VP choice needs to be a Gray Beard-type who can appeal to other Gray Beard-types.
well, this election cycle the world has the tubes, we are the engines that drive the tubes and the tubes will protect our candidates
we will be the research against the attacks, we will be the foot soldiers, we will parry the attacks and mount much more devastating counter attacks
we are the tubes
and since we are “a series of tubes” that means this election will be the world series of tubes
we will be the all the many pieces on the chess board of the tubes
we are the tubes and we will protect the election and this country since our politicians cannot do it without us
and then of course they will rescind net neutrality and the tubes will be no more
it’s morning, I just got out of bed and rarely do I write with cohesion till I have my java and this post is no exception
see later
I think that that is his paean to AIPAC. Coming from NY he has to kowtow to the powers that be. I thougt the English professor was very good. It was interesting what he was saying about if America will not prosecute there may well be many countries that will go after the perpetrators. Not such good news for the war criminals in the WH. He also said that a bushco pardon will do nothing to stop war criminal indictments from overseas. Gotta love that.
I am liking that idea tons, I actually think web might be the best choice to persue charges of treason and bring impeachment post office
I don’t mind web
who else do we want?
Schumer is the powers-that-be. He’s representing Israel in our senate just like Lieberman.
1,836 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen selise:
“I didn’t know he (Schumer) was such an apologist for torture…”
Schumer is a Lik*dnik neocon who is the Senate counterpart to Rahm Emmanuel. He is pushin’ a multi-millionaire GOPer in the senate primary in Kentucky over a grass roots progressive businessman. Sound familiar?
KEEP THE FAITH AND THEY WILL BE REVEALED!!
Exactly.
Webb seems to have but one “left” issue, that being the illegal invasion in the ME but as for the rest he is pretty much a conservative as far as I can see. My first vote would be for Ms Hampsher or CHS but I would settle for Richardson.
i loved sands also. his ealier book on bush/blair, “Lawless World” is excellent and i’m looking forward to reading his new one even more.
Did anyone hear Rahmakin this morning on NPR? It was way too DLC for me. What a turkey.
Yo Brother Raven, you out there…have ya grown up yet??!! HEE-HEE
Ah yes, thanks again. Now you remind me to do the Amazon thing today and order his new one. I have not read anything by him yet but after hearing him I believe I have found some good summer reading.
i wish the being pro-israel meant supporting the israeli peace activists like jeff halper. somehow i don’t bet halper doesn’t think of schumer as being pro-israel at all
Hmmmm. I better straighten this out. I was not referring to Raven as being a child it was the other snippy stuff that was irritating.
Yeah, “You have no idea who you are talking to bubbah” is forthright and polite.
Jest go back and scroll up stream for the immediate history. Sufice ta say that the Raven was lectured ta grow up by a troll.
Trolls: don’t feed ‘em…don’t talk to ‘em and don’t speak their names.
please forgive me for continuing to recommend sands, but there maybe folks reading who don’t want to dive into a book just yet but might be interested in a smaller $ and time investment.
vanity fair article, green light, by sands with material from book.
democracy now! interview
sands also gave a talk at the new america foundation (steve clemmons) yesterday after his hjc testimony, but i don’t know if they will post an mp3 - i’m hoping!
State-by-State Delegate Allocation via cspan
05/06/08 Presidential Primary / Caucus
May 07, 2008 - 07:02AM ET
Indiana:
North Carolina:
One can only hope. :-(
People, people, people.
I get up this early in the morning, give you Pablo Klaatu Hussein Dobbs Obama and I get zero diggs?
Harrumph! ;-)
I understand that her “victory”in Indiana may well be result of goopers changing sides to vote for a gooperlite? I will mention again Edwards still has 26(?) delegates.