In Barack Obama's speech following his win in North Carolina, he told American voters they could choose not to be distracted by phony issues raised by Rove's Republicans and relentlessly enabled by the media. His message was directed at the fall campaign, but it was also aimed at the media, telling them he understands they're distracting the country and knows how to deal with it.
As Clinton would graciously do in her speech, Obama first addressed concerns about a divided party:
Tonight, many of the pundits have suggested that this party is inalterably divided – that Senator Clinton's supporters will not support me, and that my supporters will not support her.
Well I'm here tonight to tell you that I don't believe it. Yes, there have been bruised feelings on both sides. Yes, each side desperately wants their candidate to win. But ultimately, this race is not about Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama or John McCain. This election is about you – the American people . . .
This primary season may not be over, but when it is, we will have to remember who we are as Democrats . . . This fall, we intend to march forward as one Democratic Party, united by a common vision for this country. Because we all agree that at this defining moment in history – a moment when we're facing two wars, an economy in turmoil, a planet in peril – we can't afford to give John McCain the chance to serve out George Bush's third term. We need change in America.
Fox, ABC, much of CNN and MSNBC's axis of Matthews/Russert have so often polluted rather than informed the nation's political discourse, it's a wonder American voters can see through the media distractions and focus on issues important to them. But last night, Obama told voters he trusts them to see through the distractions and embrace the need for change; he hears their concerns, shares their values, because he and his family lived them:
[John McCain's] ideas for America are out of touch with these values. His plans for the future are nothing more than the failed policies of the past. And his plan to win in November appears to come from the very same playbook that his side has used time after time in election after election.
Yes, we know what's coming. We've seen it already. The same names and labels they always pin on everyone who doesn't agree with all their ideas. The same efforts to distract us from the issues that affect our lives by pouncing on every gaffe and association and fake controversy in the hope that the media will play along. The attempts to play on our fears and exploit our differences to turn us against each other for pure political gain – to slice and dice this country into Red States and Blue States; blue-collar and white-collar; white and black, and brown.
This is what they will do – no matter which one of us is the nominee. The question, then, is not what kind of campaign they'll run, it's what kind of campaign we will run. It's what we will do to make this year different. I didn't get into [this] race thinking that I could avoid this kind of politics, but I am running for President because this is the time to end it. . . .
We will end it by telling the truth – forcefully, repeatedly, confidently – and by trusting that the American people will embrace the need for change.
. . . I love this country too much to see it divided and distracted at this moment in history. I believe in our ability to perfect this union because it's the only reason I'm standing here today. And I know the promise of America because I have lived it.
No matter what happens next, this is exactly what Obama needed to say. The media spent weeks implying, but pretending not to say, that as a black man, Obama may not love his country, sympathizes with violence, is not patriotic and does not understand or relate to ordinary Americans' concerns and hopes. No credible journalist believe this nonsense, yet MSM pundits like Russert and Matthews wallowed in these false images as though somehow they might be true. As Matthews conceded, Reverend Wright helps their ratings.
Obama essentially told Americans the media pundits are enablers, an obstacle to moving the country forward, but Americans don't have to let the media distract them; they have a choice. So it was ironic listening to Tim Russert and the MSNBC gang virtually proclaim Obama the Democratic nominee. It was a moment of deserved humility, but only a moment.
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It was a great night.
Good morning, Scarecrow. Excellent post.
Personally feeling a burden lifted this a.m.- think it may be from replaying Obama’s speech a couple times, & the happy anticipation of his debating St. John McBush very soon…
Good Morning Scarecrow -
in the few minutes I could stomach, heard Timmeh tell us all to hold our water, that they’d be a gettin’ to McMedia just you wait - uh huh
it was remarkable to watch tweety last nite decry the clinton campaign for their relentless focus on rev wright in their efforts to sink obama’s campaign; while completely ignoring his own and his network’s complicity in propelling that story.
Morning Scarecrow,
I’ll echo Marie,
had the pleasure of watching both speeches early this morning. Somehow I’m not all that sorry I missed the Timmeh & Tweety show tho
You must have been reading the foreign newspapers.
Morning Scarecrow.
good morning scarecrow!
man I hate it when I have nothing to add to these excellant posts but I believe you covered it all very nicely and I can add nothing
*sulks*
Mornin’ pups. What a night, eh? Coffee’s ready, hold out your cup.
My you are up early, better give yourself a double shot!
At last. And with time still left for the primary season, I guess this paycheck is the time to send some money. Since then I’ll be able to send some more later.
Thanks, Stimulus Package!
If Hillary really wants to help the party, she can start by getting the hell out of the race. It’s over. There is no path to the nomination, save a super delegate coup (which will never happen).
he certainly called out the media for its enabling and then the media going…who me?
it will be very interesting to see him try to campaign over their heads.
Thanks for posting the speech, Scarecrow, I hadn’t heard it yet.
I’m only part way through, but it strikes me that this has been a very long, grueling campaign, yet Obama looks comfortable in his new role as the presumptive nominee. He has amazing energy and is focused on our country, not on himself. I’m looking forward to the rest of this campaign. He can accomplish much.
I think we can help him with that
I could delete a hundred words or so if it makes you feel better.
Good morning, everyone. Hope everyone understands that half the Dem electorate was happy last night, the other half not so much. It’s long past time to be reaching out.
I see that Attaturk had a nomination process for who might be the Democratic VP. Who won?
First pot was mine. Mornin’, El!
Have any press conferences been announced?
Obama called them out… it is a great speech indeed and thank you Scarecrow.
More please.
(followed by a lot of hard work!)
i’ve been so frustrated by the whole process that i’ve tuned it out (or at least turned it way down)… maybe too much though. has obama been laying out a concrete vision or even what we should be talking about if we weren’t so distracted by the idiots on the tv? can anyone suggest one or two speeches of obama’s that i should give a careful listen to?
thanks!
His language should continue to focus on “intervention” language. Sent him a letter this week with that very language in regards to his ability to separate himself from Rev. Wright’s comments and that our country needs more of that kind of courage.
I have been pointing out to many friends that his handling of Rev. Wright is a turning point not a down point. It takes courage to stand up to a friend and mentor of 20 years and say, “No, I cannot support this behavior.”
Pointed out the awful statements made by religious affiliations of McCain’s and that McCain has done nothing because such affiliations were tied to a Right wing base. Stated McCain does not have the courage to say no to his cronies.
Obama does because, in front of our nation, at the risk of splitting the African American vote, he said, “No, not appropriate talk or actions,” to a friend and mentor.
We need more of that…in Washington…real leadership.
By the way, McCain is running an ad here in Ohio which starts out with the words in bold: President McCain.
Seems a bit misleading…
I think that would be a path to certain GOP victory. Frankly the clintonistas have had their day. They tried to destroy the Democratic Party with the DLC and in consequence blessed the country with eight years of a traitorous presidency. Enough is enough. Let her vote for her buddy McSame or join him on the ticket but get the hell out of my life.
the only consensus, i think, was that we disagree - wildly.
did you expect any less? *g*
that’s why we need to value diversity of tactics - without it we are doomed.
I’m contributing this a.m. too, & also a bit o’ the folding for FDL, for their great coverage last night &, well, just in general. I know I’ve said it before- this site is a beacon. Thanx to all @ FDL.
That should be ad…
That’s what I get for writing a comment after checking math homework…
i didn’t think that was courage - i thought that was caving to the demands of the idiots on tv. made me very say. although i’m trying to understand that it was necessary, it was hardly something to be proud of.
It’s gettin’ very crowded, but if anyone sees Jane or Christy, please let them know I’ve saved a couple of seats for them on the Sen. Obama bandwagon.
Right up front.
Where we can all see the sunrise of a real “Morning in America.”
There were, however, some interesting choices for cabinet positions. (And a bit of a pull for Dodd for VP, but most of us thought he should stay in the Senate. I’d like to see him as Majority Leader, myself…)
ditto.
I’d really like to see the good Reverend Wright as VP…
(not kidding at all)
majority leader dodd sounds good to me too.
after that quote of schumer’s in yesterday’s hjc hearing, i’d like to see schumer out of any role in the dem leadership. i’m still shocked (even if i’m several years late in finding out about it).
angie - if you recommend obama’s speech last night, i’ll definitely try to give it a listen.
Mornin’, Firepups. Now is the time to really take it to the media. Million ton shit hammer time. And keep those emails, letters and calls to NYT comin’. They deserve every hit they take after Sunday’s neo-con love fest.
It’s not something that can be done easily with a stump speech; most politicians feel the need to keep it simple, focused on broad themes, rinse, repeat. You have to look through the websites for most details, and it turns out, both Clinton and Obama have extensive proposals on just about anything. As for “vision,” I thought Obama’s speech about the financial crisis and the evolving need for regulation reform was important; I did a post a while back on that.
As an example of the web material, I read a detailed critique from an expert on treatment of those with disabilities, comparing McCain, Clinton, Obama. McCain has a couple of paragraphs of platitudes; Clinton had a detailed list of proposals; Obama began with a vision statement to put it in context, followed by detailed proposals on reforms and/or support of pending legislation. It was characteristic of the way each of these candidates approaches issues.
If you haven’t heard Obama from last night, do listen. It’s worth your time.
Thanks much for supporting FDL. It does cost real money to run this site, and lots of folks work hard behind the scenes. It’s like Disney Land underground, and I still don’t know who Minnie Mouse is. But they appreciate your support.
believe a certain commenter (rhymes with e-b-l) was telling the naysayers that the 50 State flavuh of his campaign and it’s unprecedented success would provide a cushion allowing him to call them out - same commenter continues to hammer on how he speaks to intelligent adults and not fearful nine year olds
was not initially in either camp - just admired what Team Obama assembled and how beautifully it’s worked - lots of Crashing The Gate goodness
selise — I missed the Schumer quote. ??
really looking for a speech and not a webpage that the candidate may or may not have even read - although i don’t mean to discount their importance.
will look for the financial crisis speech, thanks for the recommend. wasn’t looking for one speech that says it all, just one that shows signs of being part of a coherent whole. sorta like i’ve described gore’s speeches when we’ve discussed them. since 2002, it doesn’t matter the topic (war, law, media), one can listen to gore and get an idea of his foundational principles and how his mind works to critique our present course and create a vision for an alternative direction and how his ideas have developed and matured with time.
don’t expect that in a stump speech, and maybe not even in any modern active politician… but if there are hints of that kind of thing, i will be very encouraged.
will see if i can make a short transcript for you real quick like….
amen.
Now that is a consummation devoutly to be wish’d. Barack Obama debating NeoGeorge III. Bring ‘im on.
I prefer to think of him as “Suck Chummer” or actually I prefer not to think of him at all
George W. Bush still got got two terms after debating the Dems
We need healing. And an inspirational candidate, an inspirational speaker, who can mobilize the sacrifices and the sense of unity of purpose that is sorely needed at this moment - in order to counter the media cynicism and the corporate greed and the republican desire to bury this country beneath a veneer of patriotic despotism.
Let us come together Dems. Let us be strong and hold to our highest values.
I see that Attaturk had a nomination process for who might be the Democratic VP. Who won?
I sat around for about an hour last night with an entire table full of Obama’s lawyers and asked them that very question.
Obama hasn’t even begun to think about a V.P. yet.
I believe McCain will be the very first presidential nominee running behind in the polls that demands fewer debates
his first two will be a brutal embarrassment, he will have senior moments and look like a weak old man compared to Obama and their campaign committee will see no benefit in future debates
I think he will embarrass himself and the party, (if embarrassing the party is even possible)
good, I was wondering why I have not been contacted and your data makes me feel a little better about that
well he didn’t get in through election, those two terms are the result of a silent coup
tells us more, spill bill…
I sat around for about an hour last night with an entire table full of Obama’s lawyers and asked them that very question.
Say What?? Do tell.
It was a hic-coup
Flesh out the conversation a little more when you can, jayt. Real “insiders” perspective*g*
lol!
Old theme, revisited. It gives me hope to watch/listen to Barack Obama, a man who is dignified and articulate. No winkies. No tap dancing. I totally get that substance must go deeper than that (and Obama has it). But I gotta tell you that my heart does its own little happy dance at the prospect of a president we can be proud of (of whom we can be proud). Our national nightmare is almost over!
You’re looking at it from a white point of view. His distancing himself from Wright probably offends many blacks, but Obama had no choice. To the extent that he risked black support, he showed courage. For some reason courage is in short supply in politicians these days. Everyone panders. Obama does it less then the rest. He may be a great president and he will be president. McCain will self destruct sometime between now and November.
Then, I would like to see that kind of “caving” by McCain, Bush and many others.
Amen, & well put.
Honey, you’re having a hard morning, aren’t you? *g* New breakfast food for you: Cabinet post-toasties! How ’bout that?
tells us more, spill bill…
Well first, I wasn’t gonna go to the HRC speech, but when Timmeh said Hillary’s about to address her supporters, I changed my mind and ran across the street to catch it.
Afterward, I was hungry, so I went down to the corner pub for a sammich. While waiting, I noticed a table full of young people who were obviously Obama supporters - struck up a conversation, and it turned out that all those *kids* (damn, they were all so young) were his lawyers, and had happened to pick that place to watch the returns.
They were jazzed, big time, until that very last call that HRC was gonna squeak it out here in Indiana, at which time they all got up and went home. End of story.
jayt -
am very curious as to how Voter ID was beat back - nothing in the overnight numbers to suggest the suppression efforts worked - on the surface, looks like Absentee Ballots were the answer - guess more will come out in the days ahead but sure looks like Hoosier State was prepared :D
i don’t have a complete recording of yesterday’s hearing yet and the cspan archive is not complete either.
an audio clip (with video transcript) was played by trent franks in yesterday’s hjc hearing (the last part of this can been seen/heard in the beginning of the incomplete c-span archive (flash player)
transcript of senate judiciary committee hearing june 8, 2004 from wapo:
what utter bs and filth.
(he needs to go hide in the corner with Colin Powell)
gag.
am very curious as to how Voter ID was beat back
No it wasn’t. Voting did in fact require a picture ID with an issuance and expiration date.
This morning’s Star has a story about a bunch of nuns who were not allowed to vote. Other than that, no big deal - it was advertised pretty heavily, and I don’t think much of anyone was caught unaware.
Absentees? I guess I don’t know how the ID Law affected those.
Selise, Scarecrow has it right about one speech, I don’t think that will give you what you are looking for, and in all fairness, I don’t know that you could point to one by any candidate and get that.
However, when I saw him speak in Boise, my Rush Limbaugh loving FIL was in town, and I had heard all about all the platitudes I would be hearing at Obama’s speech, as FIL tried to convince us we were wasting out time to go. It is a common criticism of Obama.
My 3 person family came home all supporters - including the college kid who will vote in her first election. We heard that Iraq was a mistake, we needed to bring the troops home, and that instead of being belligerent and arrogant with other nations, including our allies, we needed to work on diplomacy and a foreign policy that made sense. That a strong leader isn’t afraid to talk to his enemies.
Did he detail his plan for bringing troops home, including departure dates? No. But it did give us a sense for him, as a leader, that I think was important.
Is he the liberal I’d want? Nope. I have no illusions about that. Can he do everything he says he will? Hell no. The Congress gets their say too.
The thing is, most of what I’ve written here could probably be applied to Hillary as well - I just didn’t get to stand in line to see her speak and be inspired by her (we’ll ignore my distaste for her campaign for the last two months.)
Where I think they are different, in outlook or style or whatever you want to call it, is right here, in the subject of this post. I think that when Obama talks about the “old” politics, a huge chunk of what he means is this nasty Rovian bullpucky. He not only disdains it, he tries not to engage in it. I think Clinton has been assimilated into it - I think she’s embraced it. It’s what she knows. Why else cozy up to Scaife, and O’Reilly, and people she should refuse to be in a room with, after what they’ve done to her?
So I think that gamble we are all taking is that we can, somehow, change that by not engaging in it. Part of me is terrified it is too big a roll of the dice, and we’re gonna end up with a kneecapped candidate and President Bush, redoux. But part of me has to believe in the organization he has built, in the “more and better democrats” we have from Blue America, and at the end of the day, I have to roll the dice, with Obama, on the better angels of the American people’s nature. Beating down my cynicism isn’t easy.
That was really longwinded. Sorry.
I think Obama has more backbone than Gore or Kerry combined. Gore has done a great job since the 2000 clusterf**k but Kerry was a loser from the start. And I don’t think McShitForBrains has the skills to engage in a discussion requiring the ability to think on his feet. Once he gets past the core of a talking point he rambles meaninglessly.
Selise, was that from last year? You’re date on it has it in the future?
we’re still runnin over that dog in the last thread!
Ooohhh!. Sanchez next up on CSPAN’s WJ. This could be good.
This is what every mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, GOP wing nut needs thrown back in their face anytime they pull out this fake patriotic B.S:
“I love this country too much to see it divided and distracted at this moment in history. I believe in our ability to perfect this union because it’s the only reason I’m standing here today. And I know the promise of America because I have lived it.”
Let’s get it on, McBatshitCrazySaint et al!!!
From Tombstone, It’s not revenge we’re after, it’s a reckoning.
Dems ‘08
The ID requirement is not part of the absentee ballot process. That is where the real voter fraud is possible, IMO. We are still trying to figure out how to fix the “absentee ballot problem.”
It will be interesting to see how many people were disenfranchised. Nuns. That’s a good one. Maybe some Catholics will get into some “high dungeon” over that.
How can that date be correct?
Thanks selise — I think you meant 2004?
retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez is coming up on CSPAN for the next hour
re: Obama’s lawyers: it was a pretty non-shop-talk get-together. But I got the distinct impression that they were pulling hard for that Indiana win, at which point they figured it was over. When it didn’t quite come through, they just kinda trudged out the door, like “oh well, back to work tomorrow”.
like everything else they’ve tried, there are loopholes and sloppiness a plenty - including no ID requirement for Absentee Ballots
my initial thoughts are they set this crap up with a 04 mindset - and people like that idiot Schlozman thinking “shiftless and lazy” types wouldn’t bother with mailing in an Absentee
no one could have anticipated unprecedented numbers of Americans coming out to register and exercise citizenship . . . their epitaph
The punditocracy has been served notice. Their demise as shapers of public opinion looms. The American people are soon to learn the corruption of the Republican Party and the complicity of the corporate media. Let’s hope that the Republican Party will begin an exile to the wilderness for generations to come. Let’s hope that the celebrity pundits merely fade into the sunset to enjoy their unearned golden years of retirement.
wigwam and scarecrow - of course you are correct! 2004.
shoot.
dear mods, would fix it for me - i hate to make people as confused as i am. so sorry.
Oh, the pundits won’t go away; and they can’t be embarrassed. Self awareness is a rare trait.
How sad and yet how exhilarating that statement is.
Also, on the primary? John Cole nails it. http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=10294#comments
Read the whole thing.
I already fixed it.
How’d I miss that firefight in the last thread? Gotta get up earlier, I suppose. My Lai, Powell, credibility - all in one thread. My, my, my.
and don’t worry about that date selise - he’ll say something equally disgusting in 6/08 - which is right around the time SCOTUS releases it’s MCA opinion :D
that wasn’t long-winded - that was a great explanation of where you are coming from. very helpful to me, thank you.
i’m with you on clinton, just haven’t been won over by obama yet (and may never be). but it took a long time for dean to win me over, so i’m willing to keep the jury out for a while yet.
We are not supposed to carry FF’s to other threads. See mods, I play by the rules!
I hope you are correct. The demise of the Republic Party and their celebrity pundits would make a great legacy for the Decider. However, they won’t go quietly or with dignity. The coming racist attacks, both subtle and direct, will be breathtaking.
Now at MSNBC.com
“A campaign aide says Hillary Clinton loaned herself $6.4 million in the past month”
good morning…im feeling more hopefull,as the celebrity newsreaders display their absolute cluelessness!
So, this was Ashcroft, whom Schumer was telling that torture is okay depending on circumstances, such as the ticking-time-bomb scenario. No wonder he likes Mukasey.
In Florida they’ll mail any registered voter an absentee ballot. The trick is the inner envelope the ballot is returned in has a place for a signature of the voter. That signature block area is over where the flap attaches to the main surface. If it doesn’t match the signature on file exactly it’s not counted. I don’t mail mine back in, I take to the Supervisor of Elections office. They will, upon request, verify the signature then and there.
and Mikka Br????? whatever the spelling is…..is sooooooo very PATHETIC,i actually feel very sorry for her lack of any persona
i lived in Fl for 40 years,it has become absolutely corrupted,guess cause it grew like dread locks,fast and loose
I liked Congressman Ellison and Ms Cohen’s handling of the ticking time bomb flim flam -
Oh, I wasn’t wanting to continue, I was just commenting on missing it.
Hey kdh22 - been lookin’ for ya. How have you been? I’ll be in your neck of the woods mid June.
was it Tweets, that suggested Obama pay her debt?he smokes weird stuff that guy
I was resisting telling you to go back there. Seems I’m blinded to the truth about Powell by “bitterness”.
wow, we disagree so profoundly i don’t know where to start.
1) obama didn’t distance himself from wright (that was done in obama’s speech on race), obama repudiated him and what he said (even when true).
2) you say obama had no choice - then how is it an act of courage?
3) perhaps you mean political courage and i was meaning moral courage? that might be part of our disagreement.
4) i think political courage is standing with the marginalized, the less powerful and not conceding to the demands of a bunch of rich white assholes on the tv.
5) don’t understand the reference to “white point of view” and “offends many blacks”.
but i do understand i’m apparently in the minority on this one.
if i can just wrap my head around the expediency argument, i’ll be ok. but everytime i think about courage and what i think would have been the right thing to do…. well, it makes it harder for me to get to the expediency rational.
I have heard that there is not good verification of signatures on ballots. I have thought that would be a solution to the absentee fraud, but it is not practiced in my state, so the absentee is where the total fraud would happen. Republicans win every time with absentee ballots, in the close races in NM.
Yeah. Something like if Obama agrees to pay Hillary’s debt, Hillary would drop out. Don’t know if it was his idea or something floated by one of the campaigns. I was half-listening at that point.
selise, I was won over by the young voters who are showing up in droves to support Obama. I think he is engaging a generation that has not participated. They are inspired, perhaps not the way I would hope, but they are the future. I am with them.
Politically, Obama is not much different than Clinton in many ways, but I think he is different in his temperment. I like that too.
Perfection is not possible. And the one thing we need to remember is that we can’t do anything unless we are the majority party and have the WH.
i believe practically everything Wright says,however,he could write a book,and not go granstanding at this minute in time…His friend is on a very important mission of his own….helping to take back America from a sociopathic cabal….he can wait for his 15 minutes,or just do the memoir thing……………imo
Thanks for the link to Cole. Well done rant. I share the notion that it’s a relief to be treated as an adult — but it’s interesting that Cole, as a reformed Reaganoholic, wants payback for what Bush/Cheney did to his former party — yet Obama almost never suggests pay