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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/07/more-and-better-blank-checks/#comment-1433957</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 04:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i’ve been getting the distinct impression that we’ve been “creating a narrative” instead of trying to figure out what is real and judging our own pols by the same standards we use to judge the Rs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Our state of affairs are not in order.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;no they are not.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i’ve been getting the distinct impression that we’ve been “creating a narrative” instead of trying to figure out what is real and judging our own pols by the same standards we use to judge the Rs.</p>
<blockquote><p>Our state of affairs are not in order.</p>
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<p>no they are not.</p>
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		<title>By: tw3k</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/07/more-and-better-blank-checks/#comment-1433927</link>
		<dc:creator>tw3k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 04:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, took a quick nap but thanks for the reply to my snark. That really sums up why (a.) the primaries has been such a complete disappointment in that it has been nothing more than a distraction from the important issues of state at hand and (b.) why the recent cycle of rebranding liberalism has left such a bad tate in my mouth.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our state of affairs are not in order.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, took a quick nap but thanks for the reply to my snark. That really sums up why (a.) the primaries has been such a complete disappointment in that it has been nothing more than a distraction from the important issues of state at hand and (b.) why the recent cycle of rebranding liberalism has left such a bad tate in my mouth.</p>
<p>Our state of affairs are not in order.</p>
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		<title>By: sporkovat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/07/more-and-better-blank-checks/#comment-1433696</link>
		<dc:creator>sporkovat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;yeah, they are just like the easily mocked Creationists in some ways - once something is identified as inimical to things they take on faith, it does not matter whether is is true or not, it will be screened out, not heard, and if linked to, well, certainly not checked out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so, for example, highly respected Democracy Now can have Jeremy Scahill on, and he says stuff like this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
JUAN GONZALEZ: Well, let me ask you, in terms of this whole issue of mercenaries in general, &lt;strong&gt;I mean, are we facing the possibility that a Democratic president would in essence reduce the troops but increase the mercenaries? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
JEREMY SCAHILL: Well, Juan, this is a great question, and it was one of the reasons why I started looking at this. I want to read you a quote here. Joseph Schmitz, who’s one of the leading executives in the Blackwater empire, recently said this: “There is a scenario where we could as a government, the United States, could pull back the military footprint, and there would then be more of a need for private contractors to go in.” So apparently these contractors see a silver lining in that scenario. You know, the reality is, right now, that these forces are one of the most significant threats to Iraqis in the country. I mean, we’ve seen scores of incidents where they’ve shot at them, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;But as you know, Juan, this is a bipartisan industry. I mean, Bill Clinton really gave rise to this phenomenon of the military contractors.&lt;/strong&gt; We know that Dick Cheney was running Halliburton in the ’90s. Who was giving Dick Cheney all of those contracts? Well, it was Bill Clinton. And the Democrats have long been good for the war contracting industry. There’s a reason why Hillary Clinton is the number one recipient of campaign contributions from the defense industry. Number two is John McCain. Obama is number four. Chris Dodd is ahead of him. It’s very interesting. It’s a bipartisan phenomenon. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
And I mean, you know, the reality is that now would be the time for people to raise these issues, and yet no one is talking about this. &lt;strong&gt;It’s “Oh, yeah, Barack Obama is going to withdraw troops from Iraq.” Well, not exactly.&lt;/strong&gt; He’s actually looking at keeping a pretty sizeable deployment. The other thing about them is they’re both calling for an increase in the number of troops in the permanent US military. In the case of Obama—and Juan, you’ve brought this up recently on the show—in the case of Obama, he says 90,000 new troops. Well, that’s going to be a $15 billion increase in military funding just for those troops to be in the United States, not including their deployment. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;which is why it is possible to have the partisan left blogosphere or whatever you call it strenously keeping with up with ongoing atrocities and debacles in Iraq, and condemning the Republicans for them, yet vehemently supporting (D) candidates who would perpetuate the same policies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The disappointment at the “betrayals” of the (D) Congress after 2006 can and will be repeated endlessly unless 3rd party or abstention is seen as viable and doesn’t just provoke Naderitis and a 2-minute hate.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, they are just like the easily mocked Creationists in some ways &#8211; once something is identified as inimical to things they take on faith, it does not matter whether is is true or not, it will be screened out, not heard, and if linked to, well, certainly not checked out.</p>
<p>so, for example, highly respected Democracy Now can have Jeremy Scahill on, and he says stuff like this:</p>
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JUAN GONZALEZ: Well, let me ask you, in terms of this whole issue of mercenaries in general, <strong>I mean, are we facing the possibility that a Democratic president would in essence reduce the troops but increase the mercenaries? </strong><br />
JEREMY SCAHILL: Well, Juan, this is a great question, and it was one of the reasons why I started looking at this. I want to read you a quote here. Joseph Schmitz, who’s one of the leading executives in the Blackwater empire, recently said this: “There is a scenario where we could as a government, the United States, could pull back the military footprint, and there would then be more of a need for private contractors to go in.” So apparently these contractors see a silver lining in that scenario. You know, the reality is, right now, that these forces are one of the most significant threats to Iraqis in the country. I mean, we’ve seen scores of incidents where they’ve shot at them, etc.<br />
<strong>But as you know, Juan, this is a bipartisan industry. I mean, Bill Clinton really gave rise to this phenomenon of the military contractors.</strong> We know that Dick Cheney was running Halliburton in the ’90s. Who was giving Dick Cheney all of those contracts? Well, it was Bill Clinton. And the Democrats have long been good for the war contracting industry. There’s a reason why Hillary Clinton is the number one recipient of campaign contributions from the defense industry. Number two is John McCain. Obama is number four. Chris Dodd is ahead of him. It’s very interesting. It’s a bipartisan phenomenon. </p>
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<p>and</p>
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And I mean, you know, the reality is that now would be the time for people to raise these issues, and yet no one is talking about this. <strong>It’s “Oh, yeah, Barack Obama is going to withdraw troops from Iraq.” Well, not exactly.</strong> He’s actually looking at keeping a pretty sizeable deployment. The other thing about them is they’re both calling for an increase in the number of troops in the permanent US military. In the case of Obama—and Juan, you’ve brought this up recently on the show—in the case of Obama, he says 90,000 new troops. Well, that’s going to be a $15 billion increase in military funding just for those troops to be in the United States, not including their deployment. </p>
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<p>which is why it is possible to have the partisan left blogosphere or whatever you call it strenously keeping with up with ongoing atrocities and debacles in Iraq, and condemning the Republicans for them, yet vehemently supporting (D) candidates who would perpetuate the same policies.</p>
<p>The disappointment at the “betrayals” of the (D) Congress after 2006 can and will be repeated endlessly unless 3rd party or abstention is seen as viable and doesn’t just provoke Naderitis and a 2-minute hate.</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/07/more-and-better-blank-checks/#comment-1433695</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;siun, I am talking about de _poularizing the world not just Iraq&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the world&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>siun, I am talking about de _poularizing the world not just Iraq</p>
<p>the world</p>
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		<title>By: markfromireland</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/07/more-and-better-blank-checks/#comment-1433671</link>
		<dc:creator>markfromireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for “getting” it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for “getting” it.</p>
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		<title>By: Siun</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/07/more-and-better-blank-checks/#comment-1433659</link>
		<dc:creator>Siun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you DWB … for saying it all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you DWB … for saying it all.</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/07/more-and-better-blank-checks/#comment-1433656</link>
		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It is incredible to me that it is perceived that there are ‘two sides’ to this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How anyone can seek to justify or ‘explain’ what is going on as cultural desonance simply amazes me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Were these things happening to you and yours (not so far-fetched as it might seem …) would you be parsing words?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When we leave things will be bad.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While we are there, things are bad.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the first instance, it is the Iraki people who must choose …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the second, the choice is ‘ours’ …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is little food, little water …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But there is much evil, too much death, too much maiming, too much!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those of us here, of a certain age, already have the blood of one war on our hands and a stain upon our conscience …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How many more must die?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What are they dying ‘for’?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Too many questions, too little courage …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Too much hubris, too little shame …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you, Siun  and thank you, mark.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is incredible to me that it is perceived that there are ‘two sides’ to this.</p>
<p>How anyone can seek to justify or ‘explain’ what is going on as cultural desonance simply amazes me.</p>
<p>Were these things happening to you and yours (not so far-fetched as it might seem …) would you be parsing words?</p>
<p>When we leave things will be bad.</p>
<p>While we are there, things are bad.</p>
<p>In the first instance, it is the Iraki people who must choose …</p>
<p>In the second, the choice is ‘ours’ …</p>
<p>There is little food, little water …</p>
<p>But there is much evil, too much death, too much maiming, too much!!</p>
<p>Those of us here, of a certain age, already have the blood of one war on our hands and a stain upon our conscience …</p>
<p>How many more must die?</p>
<p>What are they dying ‘for’?</p>
<p>Too many questions, too little courage …</p>
<p>Too much hubris, too little shame …</p>
<p>Thank you, Siun  and thank you, mark.</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/07/more-and-better-blank-checks/#comment-1433655</link>
		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That was the basic premise, the GZG and our ‘Vatican-sized Embassy’  most of our troops can get out through land routes to Kuwait, however, I believe at a price…  Having conducted route recons, I’m aware we will lose troops enroute…!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was the basic premise, the GZG and our ‘Vatican-sized Embassy’  most of our troops can get out through land routes to Kuwait, however, I believe at a price…  Having conducted route recons, I’m aware we will lose troops enroute…!</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/07/more-and-better-blank-checks/#comment-1433653</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;oh selise, i didn’t mean you didn’t believe me, i meant there’s a timeline…….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i travelled today, been outta town, am wired and tired, may be spitting things out too fast……..didn’t clear my head all the way before i logged onto the lake…..hmmmmm, how many can say that? lots…….i missed the lake……hits the part of my brain that feeds my conscience to do more and better.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;will reread thread tomorrow when i’m fresh as lilacs tomorrow………&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thanks mark and siun.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1-800-405 or 450-8293&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;call and call and call……and get the numbers for your district and call them for more info.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;then go plant your garden.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh selise, i didn’t mean you didn’t believe me, i meant there’s a timeline…….</p>
<p>i travelled today, been outta town, am wired and tired, may be spitting things out too fast……..didn’t clear my head all the way before i logged onto the lake…..hmmmmm, how many can say that? lots…….i missed the lake……hits the part of my brain that feeds my conscience to do more and better.</p>
<p>will reread thread tomorrow when i’m fresh as lilacs tomorrow………</p>
<p>thanks mark and siun.</p>
<p>1-800-405 or 450-8293</p>
<p>call and call and call……and get the numbers for your district and call them for more info.</p>
<p>then go plant your garden.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/07/more-and-better-blank-checks/#comment-1433646</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 01:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In what respect?  When we leave, whether it’s tomorrow or McCain’s 100 years from now there will be a really ugly power struggle.  Mark raised a major point about contractors.  If the military starts using more mercenaries, who have respect for nothing other than a paycheck, the resistance will become stiffer.  Phoenix teams were known to obliterate small hamlets.  Blackwater will obliterate whole cities.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In what respect?  When we leave, whether it’s tomorrow or McCain’s 100 years from now there will be a really ugly power struggle.  Mark raised a major point about contractors.  If the military starts using more mercenaries, who have respect for nothing other than a paycheck, the resistance will become stiffer.  Phoenix teams were known to obliterate small hamlets.  Blackwater will obliterate whole cities.</p>
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