But something Rush said this week does reflect his leadership in an undeniably real political trend: the return of race-baiting as an acceptable form of discourse. It happened when he was being interviewed by Fox News about Hillary's suggestion he has a "crush" on her. He quipped:
I understand now why Bill Clinton hit on my date about a year ago at the Kobe Club in New York. I was minding my own business and Clinton came in. And the short version is he used the mayor of Los Angeles to distract me, while hitting on my date. […]
He came over three or four times, had Ron Burkle with him and the mayor of Los Angeles, who I thought was either the shoe shine guy or a Secret Service agent.
That "mayor of Los Angeles" is, of course, Antonio Villaraigosa, a Latino man.
This is in fact classic race-baiting. While the meaning of the term has been confused by years of abuse by folks like Limbaugh (by referring to it whenever a minority politician stands up for their group), its most common form was precisely this kind of talk: raising ugly and demeaning racial stereotypes and associating them with individuals, dangling the stereotype for the audience to swallow the ugly underlying message.
But the response, so far, has been a deafening silence. Indeed, as Think Progress observes, the media (aside from Keith Olbermann) have completely ignored his having said this -- though they're more than happy to comment on his "crush." Because, you know, that's what's important.
And that really is the problem, even more than Limbaugh making these kinds of remarks. After all, we've gotten accustomed to them -- which may be why the media haven't even batted an eye this time around. But letting this kind of hate-mongering stand should be unacceptable in a society built on equality of opportunity.
When the media turn a blind eye to this kind of stuff, it becomes permission for more. And so the tide of hateful rhetoric has been steadily building over the past decade and longer, led in no small part by Limbaugh himself. But he has never been alone in this.
And in recent years, it's become common to let race-baiting like this bubble up, especially if the targets are Latino immigrants.
Mario Soliz-Marich has noticed this too:
As a member of the largest minority ethnic group and a member of the media, I am continually puzzled and outraged by the idea that anyone can say anything about Latinos without fearing any consequence. While it would be out outrageous for anybody to have said a similar thing about an elected official of almost any other ethnicity, Rush will certainly not receive any heat at all for supposedly “mistaking” the Latino Mayor of the nation’s second largest city as a shoeshine guy.
There will be no national debate about whether he should step down as there was when Imus referred to a women’s basketball team in a derogatory fashion. There will be no national outrage like there was following the racist vocal vomiting of “comedian” Michael Richards. There will be no slam down and painful lame excuses like those offered by Mel Gibson after his anti-Semitic comments. The rules for Latinos are different.
Rush, Lou Dobbs, and a host of shock jocks are well aware of this different set of rules. Dobbs & Rush inc. can freely accuse Latinos of spreading Leprosy and TB, of raping children, and even planning the violent overthrow of the US, without any proof whatsoever.
However, race-baiting has come slyly back into fashion not just with Latinos, but really with the entire range of minorities. This is why the GOP can indulge dog-whistle speeches and dog-whistle ads attacking Barack Obama, and the media not only ignore the racially incendiary nature of it all, but find ways to repeat them relentlessly.
Because, of course, all race-baiting and dog-whistle tactics have a certain surface deniability that most people can see right through (which is kind of the point of all the winking and nudging). For some reason, the media are refusing to do so. And the longer it goes on, the deeper the shit is going to get.
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david. do you sleep?
Forgive me if this is offensive, but I think it would be just dandy to watch the country club explode when Obama wins in November.
Obama has to be the Jackie Robinson of national politics to put up with all this extra fearful racism that is going to come. I think he and his family are up to the task. And that is just amazing that he is willing to take it on.
He’s Baaack…. The Iron Man of yesterdays primary’s election on far into the night.
Rush Limbaugh is a case where a cigar is not JUST a cigar.
great post David. I have noticed this myself but I would go back to Reagan. He made it okay to be racist again esp in the political arena (imo) I mean look at where he announced his candidacy.
As KO said, “date? It’s properly called an escort”
Let’s dispense with the euphemisims. He had a hooker.
heh-heh.
It doesn’t matter how odious a sentiment expressed by the likes of Limbaugh, Ingraham, Coulter, Hannity…they never need apologize.
Cheney can go on their shows and no one blinks.
Calls for genocide, homicide, riots are all acceptable discourse among the white chattering classes.
Call America out on its less than glorious aspects of history and there’s hell to pay. Especially when called out by a Black man.
-G
hehe
It’s what their base want from them, and it’s what they deliver.
I imagine we’ll see more of it now.
Well, you know the old saying, you don’t have to be a racist to be a republican…
BTW the Cushing spot price for crude oil is $121.39. We will see if today’s EIA numbers showing a big 5.7 million bbl increase in crude stocks last week will affect this in any way.
And it’s so odd that Rush would be so easily distracted from his date by a “Latino shoe-shine boy”. Maybe he’s spending too much time down in the Dominican Republic?
Under no circumstances should any element of Rush Limbaugh’s sex life, the fact that Rush Limbaugh HAS a sex life, or even the words “Rush” “Limbaugh” and “sex” in proximity, be allowed to appear in any media, anywhere, ever.
I will now go punish myself.
Fasten your seat belts, because we haven’t seen anything yet.
We’re gonna get lots of this filth because it’s all they have.
The economy? Uh, no. Iraq? Please. Housing? I don’t think so.
I think the good news will be that Dems win big anyway, and it will show the country that enough of us have moved on to more substantive issues.
It does appear the GOP is taking the full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes strategy and are heading over the waterfall with Bush and McBush.
President Pissy Pants and the GOP Zombie Caucasian Caucus were shoulder to shoulder today on the Whitehouse steps.
Keep it up.
-G
goddammit. Mrs. Greenspan asking some nobody whether Obama’s reaching a majority of pledged delegates is, maybe, just possibly, a “marker” in this race? Like maybe having that majority might have some tiny bit of meaning?
Pardon me while I go do damage to some inanimate object….
Speaking of racism, a not so glorious anniversary.
http://axisofevelknievel.blogspot.com/
Remember, the GOP is filth and go from there.
I must say I never could understand how anyone, anyone could listen to Rush from when he first burst his big bloated self onto the scene. When i found a cassette of his in the kitchen drawer at my parents’ house, I felt like I had discovered my parents read porn. I nearly fainted.
I grew up that day.
You spelled “threw” with a “g”
I’d like to see what would happen if Villaregosa sued Limbaugh. For the racist comment along with just general principle.
Exactly. That is why they pushed the Rev. Wright story so hard. It’s all they’ve got.
As an aside, does everyone know that Villariagosa’s name combines his and his wife’s? From wiki:
I must say I never could understand how anyone, anyone could listen to Rush
My mother would be happy to tell you that no one pays any attention to Rush, because he is so obviously just an entertainer, and no intelligent person would take anything he says at face value.
My mother lives in a very small world, where all the people are intelligent, the children have good manners, etc.
I also hope Laura will have time to criticize other governments’ response to natural disasters, as soon as her task in Prairie Chapel is completed this weekend.
Seriously — Laura should be in charge of natural-disaster-beratement. Sooner or later, the press corps might stop being tactful and actually ask her “WTF, lady?”
Can she adopt me, please? Now?
My dad has run into rush in Florida (my dad lives there) and says that he is just as bloated and swollen in person as he appears on tv. My dad actually has a few funnny stories regarding Rush. I’ll share them sometime
forgot to add that my mother listens to Rush in the car, and swears up one side and down the other that she pays no attention…
So, having divorced his wife, why doesn’t he go back to his own name?
That press conference was a pure Scoobydoo moment.
I think they make a brain bleach for that.
Yes, I knew that (I live in the LA area)
Not that it matters now. He cheated on his wife with a reporter who was given access that the rest of the media didn’t get. His career is all but over here in LA (the affair, bad policies) so I think he was hoping to ride Hillary’s coattails to the WH
LOL! I retract my application!
omigod, that’s so funny…
Having had three surnames in my life, I’d guess that he’s following the path of least resistence. But your guess is as good as mine. (In retrospect I should have kept my original surname. It would have been less complicated in the end, but it was a complicated Polish name, so changing it seemed like a good idea at the time. My generic solution is that female children should take their mother’s surname & male children their father’s. Were that the case, my surname would have been Lee.)
Why wait?
Rush stories? Now’s good!
I’m assuming this is a double entendre, right?
Hands spacefish a coke
OT, but interesting. Brad Delong is trying to do something about Yoo.
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/.....e-mem.html
I forgot to include the fact that they’ve got the weakest candidate since, well, George W. Bush.
Yeah, I know how that turned out, but McSame is following Bush and that’s some kind of albatross to have around your neck, particularly when you’re no great shakes yourself.
Little rushie has a security detail of astounding proportions. As peaceful as the other side of the spectrum from rushie’s people are, he is still in deep fear that someone will do him in. He probably realizes he has said things to and about people that can influence his last steps. Paranoia has a way of dealing with itself. He finally assumes that it is out to get him, and it will.
The House Republiclowns are acting their ages today, they have just made their fourth Motion to Adjourn of the Day! They have accomplished wasting an hour, they have also squandered a lot of time with Parliamentary inquiries, putting approval of the Journal to a recorded vote, etc. What pisses me off is that they will blame the Democrats for failing to accomplish anything.
Bush is up now saying he will veto the Housing bail out and that Congress needs to pass the responsible Republican alternative. Sounds fair, $30 Billion for Bear Stearns, people losing their homes and out on the street? Screw ‘em! The compassion!
Can she adopt me, please? Now?
Oh lord, I wouldn’t wish that on ya. Good, good person, very bright, and ridiculously naive. It just gets so old trying to convince the lady that this shit is real, that people really *do* pay attention to Rush, Hagee et al. And she screws up her vote every single goddamned cycle.
In 2004, after the fact, she told me that she’d voted for GWB as a one-issue voter (partial-birth abortion). I nearly screamed, and immediately pulled up, printed out, and highlited, in various colors, the law which was already in place.
I have no idea who convinced her that that was an election issue. It’s maddening.
I worry (assuming that he is the nominee) that Obama is not up to the task of getting into the gutter to slug it out with the likes of Rush, O’Reilly, Hannity, Coulter, Savage and the rest of them.
One thing I’ve come to grudgingly respect about Clinton, though, is that she has no qualms about fighting those people on their turf. If she’s Obama’s Cheney, the wingnuts won’t be able to touch Obama. A Dem “unity ticket” is the Thug’s worst nightmare.
WooHoo!
Unfortunately, I think we’ve just had a small taste of what the racebaiting will be like once Obama’s the candidate. I have no idea how it will turn out in the end. Some days I am optimistic that it will advance race relations when all is said & done, and other days I dispair.
not intentionally *g*
In terms of who gets whose surname - that is sort of the way it happens in Iceland, with the daughters getting their mothers’ first name with ‘dottir’ afterwards.
Of course, she also has no problem sucking up to them and going on their shows.
better to wait till lln.
Thanks for that. Even though I made up the rule, I’m not surprised that some sensible society didn’t think of it before.
Well, it seems that the tried and true tactics of yesteryear have fallen out of favor.
The terrorist fear mongering didn’t work in 2006.
The race baiting seems to be a big hit among the media and the 27%-ers…..
-G
This is of topic but I thought ya all would like to see Shirley Golub’s ad as she tries to unseat Nancy Pelosi in the primary here in California http://www.shirley08.com/rubber_chicken.php
That’s the optimistic side. But remember that you ain’t seen nothing yet. They’re keeping amunition dry for the general, when they’ll bring out the big guns. (There: I didn’t even mix metaphors.)
And Eric Johnson’s son becomes John Ericson whose son becomes Eric Johnson..and on and on…something like that…
I don’t want to think it was intentional but If I heard correctly, Obama “congratulated” Clinton on her apparent Indiana win. Clinton “commended” Obama on his win.
I prefer to think that condescension comes from living on top for a long time. But, well, I dunno….
My mother lives in a very small world, where all the people are intelligent, the children have good manners, etc.
Firedoglake Wobegon?
From the Arizona Republic
good times, noodle salad!
I’m glad you made this comment, because I think it gets to the root of how his ’shtick’ works.
First off, say something outrageous. If the response from civilized people gets too hot, then you’re joking. In the meantime, the racists out there accept it as confirmation of their views and appoint you their messiah, which as we know comes with certain economic benefits.
You know, like $20,000,000 per year.
David -
not in any way to discount, dismiss, or certainly, deny what you have been telling us about this anti american sh*t - I feel lucky to have ever encountered any of your work on race -
but it aint gonna work this time - it will bring out the mouthbreathers, steadfastly racist and some fence sitters - but that dog wont hunt - look what happened yesterday in NC - the two Dems their Obama ad was supposed to hurt ran away with it
now I accept there are smart folks here who can explain away it as ‘isolated blah, blah, blah’ but it hasn’t worked anywhere else either - asking everyone to recall just how anxious we all were after Rev Wright’s NPC speech -
frankly I’m counting on them using it and expect it to go from 0 to straight up klavern city in about a minute they’re so damn desperate - it will further expose them for the toxic beasts they are and lotsa folks will think twice about joining up with them
yeah I know, I’m letting my inner-pollyanna run amok - but I keep thinking of those older white Iowa farm women, or the 73 year old Kansan with a walker waiting 2 hours in the cold night to vote for “that young man” - there’s a significant segment of folks who are proud to vote for an African American nominee - a segment that sees it as a validation of what we could be - and they aren’t gonna take kindly to the Limpballs of this world raining on their parade
That’s what worries me….we don’t know if they’ve got something big…
The difference between shaking your hand and patting you on the head. Not cool.
heh. Yep.
Even if they don’t have something big, they’ll make it up.
Well, they have this limited catalog of stuff they can choose from - so they just keep recycling stuff from…in this case..1954.
Be the media.
http://freewayblogger.blogspot.....ornia.html
Matt -
saw that earlier -
the media matters guys book points out the AZ Media do not consider themselves his base - validation in spades - heh
Omigod!
(shrieking in background)
you are
my
son!
(((jayt)))
come home.
Yup…I expect to see some woman claiming to have had a lengthy affair and a bunch of kids she’ll claim are his…or some hooker will claim he was a client…that is most likely the type of attack they’ll go after him with. JMHO
Now Rush PillJunky is saying that he supports Obama because he’s the weaker candidate.
Talk about a weak mind.
-G
And he loves him some Judge Bork. egads.
Drug-addled Rushbo is usually not worth the toobz it takes to get his fat butt through.
He constantly complains about the “democrat rules”, they are terrible. But the Democratic Party is one of the few institutions not totally corrupted, by neo-cons. Yes, Democrats have rules and try to follow them. The only thing the Neo-cons can do, is dirty tricks against leftists.
Our Yoonitary Torture Guy has no rules. The Government can do anything. Citizens Rights are just a GOODAMN PIECE OF PAPER. Fake Coporate Journalists continue to promote a Military Occupation that is a fraud. But remember, Limbo is controlled by KKKarl Rove.
Yep, a “love-child” scandal, or some variation thereof.
LS, I understand the Freepers (no I do NOT go there, I heard this in the Crack Van at First Draft Last night) have some story about Obama and a gay hooker in the back of a limo they are trying to hawk.
This stuff is coming. He better be prepared for it.
Nope; I’m thinking they are going to combine Spitzer and Obama for a home run and find some woman who will claim she did threesomes with them in the Mayflower Hotel.
So you all think he doesn’t know what’s coming huh. Damn.
I’ve heard it’s just ##### that’s so objectionable…
Yeah, that’s how I wanna live. Gated community, security people all over the place. Sounds like great fun. Not.
its not hard to argue anything Dave. It is in this case, hard to have that argument make sense.
GOP voters constituted 10% of the electorate in IN. They split 54-46 for clinton… in other words, a difference of eigth tenths of one percent of the total electorate.
As of this moment, CNN has 1,265,035 votes counted. eight tenths of 1% of that is 10,120. Clinton is ahead by 18,439, which is more than 10,120 the last time I checked.
This is why the GOP can indulge dog-whistle speeches and dog-whistle ads attacking Barack Obama, and the media not only ignore the racially incendiary nature of it all, but find ways to repeat them relentlessly.
the problem, of course, is that Obama’s race-baiting campaign against Clinton means that were likely to see more of this kind of dog-whistle stuff aimed at Obama — because the GOP can now point to the false accusations made against the Clintons, and claim that its just more smear tactics from the Obama campaign designed to increase turnout and margins about African Americans at the cost of race relations in the country.
I just got hell from people because I said that I was sitting out in November, because I won’t tolerate the same tactics from a democrat that I find so loathesome when the GOP does it. But it isn’t just a question of principle — there is a practical problem as well, False accusations of racism make it that much harder to convince people that real dog-whistling is happening.
The best thing Obama and Michelle can do is laugh and say “don’t be silly” and keep going.
Well, that “illegitimate black child” worked well for them in 2000, doncha know…
Yeah, it is some really sad and pathetic guy with AIDS who sold his story to a tabloid and then took a lie detector test for cash…..
You know, a credible GOP source.
-G
Assuming that Obama is lily-white (phrase used ironically) wrt love affairs, I think they won’t try that tactic. Too risky in the sense of being disproved. Instead, I think they’ll tie into all kinds of racism with dog whistles, one right after another every day until the election. A bombardment, to keep with my earlier metaphor.
However, if Obama’s had dalliances, you can expect that to be prominent.
am wit ya Raven -
folks forget his background as a community organizer in the projects for god’s sake - and I almost never see mention of Mr Axelrod in these threads - streetfighter for the Daly machine - bring it
I would add Texas to that point, David.. Imagine the financial costs Dems incurred fighting two-timing Rush and those who utilized him on public airways! I know primaries are open in many places, but the dishonesty along with the racist slurry sure gets expensive.
see me at #2
That is why they are setting it up with “weak”…
I’m with you. He is not wet behind the ears.
Don’t dispair (or despair, either.)
I find it remarkable that we’ve even gotten to this point with either candidate.
Yep, and I’d be careful messin’ around with a brotha’ if I were the GOP machine. You just never know what can happen.
I stand corrected!
The attack(s) will play on the fears/prejudices of White America regarding Black men (in other words, Willie Horton x 100). If sex can be thrown in, all the better.
And I agree with you, it will be a bombardment.
well they’re not illegitimate but Barack got two of them black children
(and they are the cutest lil girls)
Knowing that McCain’s key constituency is the MSM and after analyzing the electoral map, I doubt the GOP or their allies engage in much race-baiting this coming fall. Their attack will be from a different angle.
They cannot afford to alienate the MSM. Race-baiting could do that. They are looking strong in Dixie and the Border States. They need to win OH or PA or MI. Race-baiting wouldn’t be necessary or particularly wise for doing that.
meaning what? he is going to go after all the white women? He came out of one so maybe that is all the outrage that is needed.
really.silly.discourse.
I’m inclined to agree with you. Surely at least parts of the nation people are progressing to the level that they no longer see this stuff as acceptable? That they recognize race baiting is a transparent and shameful ploy? Please??? Republicans will use racial tactics because that is pretty much all they have - but surely that should begin to backfire on them.
Glenn Greenwald at Salon on May 4 talked how the Republicans will do whatever they have to do to distract voters in the fall from the issues. Like 1988, the Republicans can’t win on the issues so they’ll appeal to our baser instincts, e.g. Willie Horton. Except Latino-baiting big time.
I have found many Democrats to be openly hostile to Latino’s. They easily marginalize them by categorizing them as “illegals” which, of course, all law abiding persons are against.
The GOP and…wise?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
wise and GOP don’t go together. It’s like Rush and Slim fast
Wingnut Email spam is currently pushing a Marxism and Obama angle. Didn’t read it. Deleted it.
I agree 1000%.
We should all encourage our kids who are old enough to appreciate the content to read James Baldwin’s essays. Everything Obama and Wright have said recently is in there….the aching for America to finally wake the fuck up and see where racism has brought us as a people and a nation.
How refreshing it would be to have Obama as president interacting with Russia’a new president Dmitri Medvedev instead of two old white people confronting Russia as a threat and trying to reignite the cold war.
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Oops, that should be “Expect”. Got a bad bug and my brain isn’t working.
’m with you. He is not wet behind the ears.
I disagree, and think that he is most certainly “wet behind the ears”.
I should distinguish that. He’s campaigning like a veteran, maybe even better than a veteran, and I think he’ll handle what gets slung at him in the General election.
But his first year in the WH is gonna be ugly. He wants to “reach across the aisle”. I was tryin’ to tell the Obama lawyer-kids last night that he’s gonna end up trying that for about a year, and get punched right square in the mouth every single time.
They weren’t buying - but I stand by it. He is most certainly, however, an intelligent man, and I figure that he’ll catch on pretty quick. His presidency, should it happen, should be judged on his last th