Comments on: Dear President Cheney: Your Numbers Are Nicely Fudged

By: katiejacob

katiejacob — Thu, 08 May 2008 15:08:32 +0000

That comment cracked me up!

By: looseheadprop

looseheadprop — Thu, 08 May 2008 13:59:19 +0000

On the Senate floor, I believe they do, but this letter strickes me as a bit over the top.

By: DWBartoo

DWBartoo — Thu, 08 May 2008 04:57:04 +0000

This is absolutely one of the best synoptic paragraphs regarding the true state of affairs regarding the ‘unholy alliance’ which I have seen on these threads. When it is placed in the context of the fear-mongering of the ‘cold-war’ and that of the current ‘endless’ war on reason, sanity and humanity, the means of the ’sale’ becomes recognizable for what it is.

We have been betrayed as citizens and human beings, to such an extent, that we must acknowledge our all too-willing complicity before we may find the courage to ask the question, “Are you a shareholder …”.

It is interesting to me that when someone, and I honestly forget whom, showed us the ‘figures’ which alledgedly purported to show the holdings of military-weapons related stock by members of Congress, there seemed an almost studied indifference.

Or, so it appeared to me. I shall not judge, but I do wonder.

I suspect the “narrative” which selise mentioned at the end of the last thread is clearly ‘operational’.

And the broader failures of attention and accountability described just before selise’s comment by sporkovat are likewise in full-bloom …

SouthernDragon, I truly appreciate your willingness to examine the darker depths of our collective soul and unflinchingly speak to the truth of what you discern.

David

By: siri

siri — Thu, 08 May 2008 04:54:33 +0000

What a crock that he get addressed as the “Honorable…..”!
At what point can everyone agree that they can pretty much drop that bs???
Cheney has NO Earthly idea what even the CONCEPT of honor is.

By: sunshine

sunshine — Thu, 08 May 2008 03:37:30 +0000

I think W was trying to show his daddy that he could do a better job. Don’t ya just wonder what family get togethers are like for them two? Daddy, I know I screwed every thing up for our party, sorrry. Pappa bear was the smarter one, too bad he couldn’t rein his kid in.

By: SouthernDragon

SouthernDragon — Thu, 08 May 2008 03:33:24 +0000

There’s a vid out that shows the top 10 or 20 war profiteers. Maybe a BraveNewFilms clip, I’ll have to search for it. My point being that almost all of them are defense contractors. I think it would be safe to say that they are some of the most profitable on NYSE, the current economic situation notwithstanding. This didn’t happen overnight. Congress through the years has been complicit in the militarization of the country. The question now is how to treat the addiction. Eisenhower should have left the original wording of his speech alone. It has always been the Military-Industrial-Congressional Complex. It was not accomplished in the dead of night, it was sold openly to the public with little fanfare and little notice by those who were being paid to pay attention to such things. Perhaps the pundits should start every interview with, “Are you a shareholder in any defense related industry?”

By: DWBartoo

DWBartoo — Thu, 08 May 2008 03:22:06 +0000

Terrific compilation, sunshine, by t5he way.

Thank you, muchly.

By: sunshine

sunshine — Thu, 08 May 2008 03:19:52 +0000

Iowa’s Jan 3 Dem primary was a caucus so the number of people voting isn’t listed on CNN, just the caucus numbers are.

By: DWBartoo

DWBartoo — Thu, 08 May 2008 03:19:39 +0000

When you then factor in the combined ‘economic’ interests of the military to ‘fund’ their toys, we have a cultural mishmash which must be mythologized, just as sugar helps the medicine ‘go down’.

It is central, in fact, to our myth of the upright ‘citizen’ military which each generation is expected to ‘feed’.

Without question ….

By: DWBartoo

DWBartoo — Thu, 08 May 2008 03:15:30 +0000

Thanks CTut, that is a good and thoughtful answer.

The problem then, is simply the conflation of the political with the military.

More complex is the role assigned to the military, generally, however, which is that of stepping ‘in’ when the black ops or mencenary ‘interests’ have failed the ‘economic’ interests of the corporate culture, which is just what Eisenhower spoke to.