52% Clinton
48% Obama
North Carolina (57% reporting):
42% Clinton
56% Obama
Shortly after CBS News projected Clinton the winner in Indiana, Obama essentially conceded the state in his speech to his supporters in North Carolina. But he also jabbed Clinton for declaring last week that North Carolina would be a "game changer" in the race.
... In fact, the size of Obama's win in North Carolina, and the shrinking margin for Clinton in Indiana, may well have shifted the underlying dynamic permanently toward Obama ... Certainly, the delegate count is stacked heavily in his favor. And Clinton is going to have a tougher time convincing superdelegates now ...
... Still, I think it's likely that this will continue to play out awhile, and that Florida and Michigan are likely to determine the final outcome ...
... One set of exit polls showed that race played a role (though I don't think it tells us what role, and to what extent race simply coincided with voting patterns), but notes this:
Wright was a looming factor in the voting, with half in each state saying he was important in choosing a candidate. Of that group, seven in 10 in Indiana and six in 10 in North Carolina backed Clinton, including eight in 10 whites. Those discounting him as a factor heavily favored Obama.
... Meanwhile, Bob Fertik at Democrats.com points out that as divided as Democrats might be, things are even worse for Republicans:
But while the Corporate Media falsely divides Democrats, they are ignoring real divisions among Republicans, where roughly 1/4 are voting against their party's nominee, John McCain.
... Obviously this is terrible news for McCain, who became the Republican nominee when Mitt Romney dropped out on February 7. McCain has had three months to unite Republicans behind him, but 1/4 of Republicans still don't like him. And the loss of 1/4 of Republican votes in crucial states like Ohio and Texas could be fatal.
Meanwhile, I guess we can thank the Roberts Court for incidents like the one in Indiana where a 12 nuns were prevented from voting. Nice work preventing that wave of voter fraud, guys.
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David!
Game changed?
Let the Opus Dei Court explain that one to the Vatican….
David!!!!!!
Punkinhaid sez Hillary’s Pennsylvania popular-vote dent may be gone after tonight.
Hi David, thanks for these rapid updates and threads.
Hi David. Which game? Not a sport I hope. Teddy is here.
And McSame still hasn’t cracked the 80% ceiling in either primary…
Less than 35,000 votes between Clinton and Obama according to Keith.
Hey David!
Right on time.
That is truly sad! If ya can’t trust nuns…!
Why don’t we stop fooling ourselves?
The game is over,
Over,
Over.
No good times, no bad times,
There’s no times at all,
Just The New York Times,
Sitting on the windowsill
Near the flowers.
We might as well be apart.
It hardly matters,
We sleep separately.
And drop a smile passing in the hall
But there’s no laughs left
‘Cause we laughed them all.
And we laughed them all
In a very short time.
Time
Is tapping on my forehead,
Hanging from my mirror,
Rattling the teacups,
And I wonder,
How long can I delay?
We’re just a habit
Like saccharin.
And I’m habitually feelin’ kinda blue.
But each time I try on
The thought of leaving you,
I stop…
I stop and think it ove
Of course, if Pat Buchanan had his way, they would have shot the nuns.
r
78% in 32k votes apart
ditto what teddy said
are we there yet?
707!
Almost 250k apart in NC
Not hearing that from TradMed tonight, though…. *g*
Who are these GOPs who go out and vote against their nominee? And what will they do in the fall? Weren’t THEY exit-polled for pete’s sake?
Gregory agrees with me that this was Obama’s acceptance speech….
They didn’t have state-issued voter IDs. One was near 90…
I always knew those geriatric nuns weren’t kept on a short enough leash!
HAH ! Scalia and Co. get excommunicated … wouldn’t that be a larf ?
Can’t show favoritism to Catholics. You would get McCain’s spiritual advisor all mad!
Does anyone out there have figures over all in terms of how many Republicans are bothering to go to the polls vs. Democrats. For a while there, even when there were multiple Goopers running, it just did not seem as if the Republicans could get people to show up.
I doubt we can peel those 20+ percent of disaffected Republicans away to vote for our side in November, but they may stay home. That works just as well for me.
As John Belushi might have said, one penguin looks much like another.
Actually the nuns were turned away by a nun from their own convent.
One nun was 98. Several had expired passports. None drive, so no licenses.
oh good grief!
Nun’s gone wild
The CNN numbers are here.
what kind of nunnery is this!?
Truly, sickening… I think they really could’ve accomodated ‘em… I hope the MSM will follow up and expose the workers whom turned them away… At least KO giving them WPITW honors…!
When asked for ID, did they say: “we have nun”
shamefull
Or they could vote Bob Barr in November.
I was eating lunch at Costco today and I overheard this older guy talking about the “black candidate” and how he could never vote for him and did you see that minister, etc. I wanted to say to him “go ahead and vote for McCain, so when he strips your medicare and SS and you are paying $8 a gallon for gas you’ll know who to blame.”
We have the same [expletive deleted] photo ID law here in Georgia. I make a point about bitching about it every time I vote, citing poll tax laws…
It was another nun from their convent who said she was very upset but the rules said that was what she had to do … I wouldn’t blame her.
CNN has is as too cloister call
Oh goddess Noron is cackling.
Oh, gawd! You’re channeling punaise… 707!
groan!
Up here in Canuckistan our junior Luntzified Reformatory gov’t (read neanderCon) has been trying to force Elections Canada to have Muslim women remove head scarves etc…..wonder what will happen with nuns?
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The nun manning the table said that it had been explained to the other sisters they needed the proper ID. She said the convent will get them down to the proper place to get those for the general election.
LOL!
OK, C-Span then.
I won’t make it a habit.
NORON…oy
11PM for results of IN … wow … this is mighty close
GROAN!!!
!
Ya, but will you kick it?
The ‘habit’ I mean.
It’s time for Hilary to drop out. She’s done, put a fork in her. She’s a war-monger anyway.
Hillary Clinton. Oh damn, I can’t say that, Delbert is WAY cooler than Hilary will ever hope to be.
Hillary McCain.
There, that’s better.
What could possible be better ID than a United States passport, expired or not?
Yup, one more reason why Harpuh can’t get a foothold in Toronto … let’s hope we can turf him this fall …
is nader running too?
UNCLE!!! I give up!!!
How much more evidence do we need that the world has gone crazy. Can we tilt back a bit? I know the terrrrists did it all to us.
Well if MCCain’s spiritual advisor had his way none of the nuns in this country could vote.
thank you Marion - it’s the same trend - 3-4 times as many Democrats showing up to vote as compared to the Goopers. So, even though the field has narrowed, theoretically, with just McCain, it’s the same deal as it was at the start and the same sort of folks who do…not…like…him. I also read recently a figure something like 4.5 million new Democratic voters -if memory serves, this was brand spanking new voters..not independents or GOP’rs who had switched.
Russert is talking NASCAR metaphors to ’splain the race to us.
FOR HILL
KISS HER GOODBYE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBIwYl8HG7I
federalist society membership?
CNN results in Indiana as of 9 PM CT:
Mike Huckabee: 10%
Ron Paul: 8%
Mitt Romney: 5%
John McCain: 77%
CNN results in North Carolina as of 9PM:
Mike Huckabee: 12%
Ron Paul: 7%
No preference: 4%
John McCain: 74%
Inquiring minds want to know why McCain can’t seal the deal.
But I can hear the McCain spin already: he’s still a step ahead of John Ashcroft, who lost his Senate reelection bid to a dead man.
I believe their statute may call for a CURRENT photo ID, just like Georgia’s…
I agree, let’em get it out of their system…! ;-)
Well, of course they did. 9/11 changed EVERYTHING, remember?
41k with 81% in
nyuk nyuk nyuk
Yup
Those Republicans will buck up and vote for McStain. They’re just playing footsie cuz these primary votes do not count. All their radio heroes are telling them to vote McStain. Neil Boortz (anti-public schools) is reluctlantly recommending McCain. Rush, too.
Can’t use in AZ in our voter ID law…. I CAN use my power bill & water bill but NOT my passport…..
WOW, tweety thinks punkin head thinks it may be OVER!
The really interesting thing is that McSame is under 80%. Some Republicans are still terminally pissed, apparently.
lmao good one :)
Sure. But I’m an incrementalist. She was plainly worse a year ago.
But yeah…
nope Teddy … he was talking Indy racing - I guess inspired by Hillary’s visit to a racing garage today and use of racing motifs …
In Nascar racing (my obsession ) you never know til the last 1/10 second
So you know in open wheel?
wonder how much of the mccain vote will get nadered
Oh THAT makes sense!
Praise The Lord … the Zune is coming to Canada on June 13th … one more MP3 Player gathering dust
as we buy tons of iPods …
Russert is facing his own televised mortality. Endgame.
Cablenews better hope for some missing blondes, pronto.
Yes, including our very selves. I wonder what a sane leader would have done with the same tragedy?
My feed of MSNBC just got forked up…… gone all digital…..
Harold Ford again … blech
People whining about KO? He’s given her the sctooock!
See, I meant NASCAR polo, not NASCAR car racing.
Coastal elite, y’know. *g*
Crementals are good
were the nuns were part of HRC’s Hail Mary strategy?
Even KO is talking sports.
Siun speaks for me.
he is terrible at analysis
watch open wheel if necessary but … not the same as those good ole boys drafting at Talledega!
hahahahahahahaha
Ms Betsy, he was a sportscaster lonnnnggggg before he became a MSNBC host.
Hail Mary pass at the buzzer.
Yes, yes I know!
Ha, I’m an old school drag racer, the hell with that left turn nosie.
Who do you suspect the nuns voted for?
That’s good; part of the “older women” (of a certain age) from her core constituency.
After consulting with Hagee.
Harold Ford pushing the unity ticket.
It’s all they know, these bipartisanists.
Can I say Harold Ford is pimpin’ Hillary for veep?
Tweety is desperate for an Obama/Clinton ticket eh?
please no … the pundits would have a field day - every day - analyzing who was in charge etc … how did Bill and Barack get along … on and on …
Mrs Greenspan up from the Clinton funeral
Breaking: Chuck Todd commits Hara Kiri for being lumped with Harold Ford …
Well, here is what I think(not rocket science and I’m sure others have said the same things)…People who would vote for Mike Huckabee are looking for a true conservative/evangelical. he’s a minister and fits the bill. he’s also a born-again skinny guy. People would vote for Romney might vote for McCain - they are close enough at least in terms of flipflopping on positions like abortion. People who voted for Ron Paul won’t vote for anyone in November — some might go for Obama but they don’t see McCain as a viable alternative to Ron Paul..remember, a lot of people are supporting Paul because of his stand on the war in Iraq.
Hillary’s wheels came off tonight. She’s prone to keep on driving.
LOL
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Dayum - take 10 seconds to type a greeting and 7 new comments show up!
Has anyone heard from Lake County, IN? That’s Gary, and the NYT liveblog says nothing from there yet. Hmmm….Lake co. has a long history of, um, making sure needed votes are supplied….
Drag racing I get … would like to see in person sometime since I love the thunder and burning rubber …
but the turn left fits nicely with my politics, eh?
Same in Florida. I always make ‘em ask me for it.
There is no chance in hell that a strong left position will be on a national ticket. They always run to the non existent center.
Obama is right about one thing - we do need a change.. lots of them.
Andrea needs a sammicth
Why would he pick Hill if Edwards were available? But I heard some coverage that he is more interested in a Cabinet post. I doubt anyone knows what Edward would like or do.
You cannot believe how the fuelers suck the air out of your lungs. And the smell of nitro. . .
AZ voter ID law or known as Prop 200 or lets try and prevent those undocumented brown people from flooding over the border to vote in our elections according to JD Hayworth….
My AZ issued drivers license IF issued after October 1998 (who knows)- name & address MUST match what is on the registration rolls
OR
combination of these two BUT not two of the same….
mailing from the election board
utility bill with name & address on it…
Or tribal ID
BUT not my passport which gets reviewed by INS & the Feds before being issued…..
So if you are an elderly person without a diver