eeek

I left ‘em grumbling downstairs. ;-0

g’nite david thanks for all your hard work tonight

Good Night Dave - and thank you for all the great work!

Dayum, David, you are a glutton for hard work. Thanks for all you’ve done, and giving us pups a place to hang out and discuss.
Now I’m gone, too.
Nite, all!

David - take a breather.
Thanks for putting up with us!

Thanks David…Hope to see you runnin’ the show in about two weeks. Maybe Christy will want to do her home state!

Aloha, David! Excellent Job!

David, THANK YOUUUU so much! You were great! And this was a fantastic and historical night.
Great to have you there doing for us.
Thanks, totally a bunch!
Good night Pups,
Very cool to hang with y’all tonight.

My shoulders are sore from digging and digging all night David.
hehe

Still digging for Iron Man David!!

I disagree - a 51-49 *win* for HRC in Indiana is a great big ugly loss, in reality.

Just got back from the corner pub, where I went to pick up a BBQ sammich - ran into a whole table full of Obama lawyers - they were bummed that they didn’t “win” Indiana - tried to tell ‘em to cheer up - they just closed out the primaly election tonight.

add my thanks, too David!

Just one more digg in ya siri?

I wish I had a bbq sammich. with pickles.

David, you’ve been doing the heavy lifting tonight. Thanks for all your posts.

I love BBQ sandwiches but I never got the thing about the pickle.

sorry - mine is nothing but a pleasant memory….

I have an obsession with food lately. It is starting to show. Pickles and all.

I like Memphis bbq.

Go Obama!!

I am a concern trolling white working class voter — who supports Obama, and has ever since Edwards dropped out.

Sure wish I could get a microphone and a sound bite.

I’d tell ‘em what they couldn’t stand to hear.

Late Nite II.

As opposed to Late Late Nite

Hmmm

Any rules here?

David, it’s such a treat to read you often. I’m very glad you’re here.

Sure wish I could get a microphone and a sound bite.

Looks like you’re in the right place.

Thanks David. Very impressive.

Getting here late, but let me add my thanks, David. So glad you’ve joined us at the Lake.

FunnyD

It means we are going to be up really late.

We wipe our feet, but I think that’s it.

I found it interesting that, amongst the table of Obama lawyers I was talking to earlier, I was not the only one who was, first, an Edwards supporter.

nope…

Hey, thanks, y’all. It was an entertaining night. Thanks for hanging out and making it fun.

Well, we Edwards supporters had to go SOMEwhere! There may have been some at a Hillary table you didn’t visit.

FunnyD

Done.
I just had to read Obi’s speech, and now I’m in tears.
wow.
ok
off here for realz this time.
:)

The primaries are over kids. On to the General.

The Call - Let the Day Begin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXywSZ-Zdmg

Good night David thanks again for the
Iron Man marathon you pulled tonight!

Double Ding!

OK, be back later. Gotta catch up on earlier posts from today.

FunnyD

yup exactly. finally done w/ primaries. time to focus on the general. and we should be able to smoke mcsame …

Me, too, but I am not a lawyer. I could be a lawyer if I wanted though.

Hey, NPB good to see ya!
FunnyD

and his determination to put more of the same on the supreme court… article in news box on front page

I am one of those also

I started out with Richardson

I flirted with Dodd but decided he didn’t have a chance

Then Edwards to the bitter end

Now Obama

I’d vote for Clinton if she got the nomination but I probably wouldn’t be happy about how she got it

he’s bad news every way you look at it … i’m feeling hopefull tonight. a chance to actually end this nightmare. and feeling like the country might actually see it. fingers crossed …

ditto that “newt” and thanks again David N for your great posts this eve.

I’m watching this After Hours show on MSNBC

I have not seen it or heard of it before

Is it just an election night special, or is it on every night?

i think he said election night special

nite all — see y’all later.

A talking head woman on MSNBC just used the word “maelstrom”

I respect her for that

I don’t believe I’ve heard that word used on TV before

nite lee5

g’nite lee

Well, it beats a prison show or a “catch the sexual pervert” show…

I am not a lawyer. I could be a lawyer if I wanted though.

I don’t doubt that in any way, shape or form.

to catch a David Vitter.

switching over to TDS

Heh, it doesn’t take much, to begin with, eh? ;-)

g’nite mary mc

You know what got me about the Obama lawyers? They were So. Goddamned. Young.

I’m feeling like a fossil.

sorry, wrong thread

Heh, it doesn’t take much, to begin with, eh? ;-)

To tell ya the truth - No.

that’s my cue to say g’nite folks.

Last digg for me tonight! Thanks Neuro for helping out :>)

Night all good firepups :>) See ya all on the Late Late night at the lake tomorrow!

Aloha, Suz!

Aloha, nahant!

G’night Suze.

nite suzanne
somehow, i feel like David wasn’t alone back there :-)
thank you very much

BTW, did you stay up straight through till ya voted at 6am…?

Aw - Mrs. Greenspan reporting that the flight home, on The Clinton Plane, is less than a happy trip.

Fucking Mrs. Greenspan spent the entire day trying to remember what state she was in.

I woulda been happy to answer…

G’ nite Suz !

Why is this Canuck up so late when there’s no Hockey on teh toobz ? *g*

G’nite all !

BTW, did you stay up straight through till ya voted at 6am…

Yep, sure did.

Still ended up second in line, unable to bribe the woman in front of me to give up her spot.

nite petro

and tuttle - indeed, jayt was here to the end

I missed it lal, every bit of it.
Gnite Suze, My condolences Bobbyg, I still haven’t got to the OKkiddo fiasco and thank you to the Mods, who I am sure are going to fall down hard tonight.
Gnite pups, tomorrow looks to be a talking head marathon.
BTW, I have a cat laying on my arm so I am having a hard time typing.
I WIN!

Ruff stuff for Hillary. What kind of loser is she going to be?

Aloha, Petro!

nite laura
one nights sleep and let’s to the race. the real race.

Sore, but of course, if she already canceled her am. slots…! ;-)

Crap, my bad, thanks to Mr. Neiwert too!

Yes, indeed. Wasn’t Mrs. Greenspan’s report heart wrenching?

A little old lady…? Bwhahaha…! ;-0

nite busted
nice image

Hey VG!

Read a bit on the Chambliss opposition and poked at their web sites. An assorted bunch *G*

Only a little bit longer and ya cann start tormenting Baby, Aloha! ;-)

A little old lady…? Bwhahaha…! ;-0

No, a teacher actually. And the weird thing is that when I went to get my sammich, she also was at the corner pub.

Long day for her, too - kinda strange though.

Married? ;-)

Did she keep talking into her shoe?

We are being watched, you know!

You dawg!

Married? ;-)

No. But accompanied, tonight.

Hard to believe that part of my initial size-up of a woman includes an examination of the left hand….

Not me, I still have my ball and chain, oops wife, of 17yrs…! 8-)

Did she keep talking into her shoe?

Hell, I dunno. I just assume the worst, and keep movin’.

Probably won’t unless someone devises a *robust* maelstrom. Think we could retire robust with this administration?

I’d just settle for retiring this Maladministration, period…!

Holy crap, when’s the last time I slept? In the mood for some music, after a pretty great day.

Joe Ely: Me and Billy The Kid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XZyGhg2IpQ

For all the creative people here, this is IMPORTANT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqBZd0cP5Yc

It’s going to be heard in the house tomorrow, May 7

Call your congressman!

I don’t know, but surely we could “throw it under the bus”…

…and, I would hope, we could throw “throw it under the bus” under the proverbial bus, as well…

Aargh, say it ain’t so…

Clinton Vows to Continue Her Run

Good to see you too. Gotta lot of catching up on the thread to do. mrbrat and our pooch Buddha Blue spirited me away for a walk around town to celebrate Obama’s big win in NC and near upset in Indiana. ;~)

Hey NPB!
We are very close to the real campaign.
Great night!

Aargh, say it ain’t so…

Clinton Vows to Continue Her Run

Why, in God’s name, will she not let me get out of my mind the words: FATAL ATTRACTION ?

gotta tell ya - I was at her speech tonight, and to me, the most striking part was the long, long hug that she shared with her husband after it was over.

Combine that with the fact that she canceled all her morning show appearances for tomorrow, and I’m figuring that it’s over.

She might go ahead and run in W.Va. and Kentucky, for no apparent good reason, but this thing is over.

And that, ladies and germs, is it for me.

Gonna get some sleep, if I remember how.

Nite, y’all.

I read that article as merely a report of her speech tonight, which she made in the heat of the moment. The world may look different to her tomorrow or a few days from now after much talk with her staff, her advisors, her contributors, her collegues, and the dreaded SuperDelegates…

It’s too bad she didn’t end her speech with a “Howard moment”…”We’re goin’ ta Wes’ Virginia! An’ we’re goin’ ta Kentuckey! An’ we’re goin’ ta Oregon! And ta Montana! and ta PUERTO REECO—WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That might be disingenuous.

nite jayt
been many sleepless hours for you

Aloha, Jayt!

Dana, nailed it neuro…

Putting the ‘Stale’ in Stalemate
WASHINGTON SKETCH | The only thing becoming clear is that the contest has gone on too long.
Dana Milbank

Obama’s big win in North Carolina, coupled with Clinton’s squeaker in Indiana, adds to a sense that his nomination is inevitable. But the split decision also gave Clinton a reason to remain in the race and force the party’s superdelegates to decide it.

In other words, there is no exit plan. We’re going to West Virginia! And we’re going to Oregon and Kentucky! And we’re going to Puerto Rico and Montana and South Dakota! Yeeaarrgghh!

I like this Julie Roginsky, Democratic Strategist.

She is the one who said “maelstrom.”

She also, however, said “bring to the table,” so I’m not so sure…

jayt, sleep well. Your allnighter was a sight to behold.

I posted here first, so I guess Dana owes me a Coke?

Instead, grab the book royalties he’s contributing to Scooter’s legal defense fund, and call it even.

heh, that’s between you and Dana…! ;-)

Willie Brown just said “McBush” on national TV….ROTFL!!!

On MSNBC? I was watching NOVA, as it’s still before 9pm here…!

Yes.

Do you think he reads FDL?

Or has “McBush” entered the popular culture?

Dana, nailed it neuro…

Putting the ‘Stale’ in Stalemate
WASHINGTON SKETCH | The only thing becoming clear is that the contest has gone on too long.
Dana Milbank

Obama’s big win in North Carolina, coupled with Clinton’s squeaker in Indiana, adds to a sense that his nomination is inevitable. But the split decision also gave Clinton a reason to remain in the race and force the party’s superdelegates to decide it.

In other words, there is no exit plan. We’re going to West Virginia! And we’re going to Oregon and Kentucky! And we’re going to Puerto Rico and Montana and South Dakota! Yeeaarrgghh!

Personally, I think/hope that isn’t going to happen. But, Hillary is a neocon, funded and advised by neocons. They’d much rather a McCain victory than Obama, who has expressed empathy for the Palestinians. IMHO, a Democratic victory is not their top priority.

I’m really liking the moniker RevDeb dropped in here this evening - “McThusula.”

Well, I just answered my own question.

I googled “McBush” and got 129,000 hits.

I like this Julie Roginsky, Democratic Strategist.

Yup. This past week I’ve seen her on two or three different networks, and she seems very intelligent. She doesn’t rattle, which is unusual for a talking head.

McThusala is perfect!

Yep, Willie said Obama is going to cream McBush in the GE.

Anyway, the MSM has spoken. The last dog has died>

Heh, it’s gone mainstream…! ;-)

Johnny Winter.

I haven’t said this on the current thread, so…

John McCain supports torture of human beings by the United States of America

John McCain:
Worse than Bush

Good nite, all.

nite neuro
was wondering what was holding you back :-)

Aloha, neuro! I shall bow out too…! Aloha Oe!!!

Great night indeed! Obama’s NC victory speech moved me to tears. The best is yet to come assuming the Senator from NY folds her tent sooner then later.

nite tuttle
great puck coming up Friday

Scroogle says sugar momma express is still fresh… wonder what it will take to cure that.

Ray and the Detonators

1,834 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

Citizen wigwam and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:

“…Hillary is a neocon, advised by neocons…a Democratic victory is not their top priority.”

I saw Rachel Maddow also on with that little Nixon Nazi speech-writer and I must say I disagree with Rachel. I think that Mrs. McClinton really wants to quit and knows that this is her moment to maintain some kind of political relevance, if she pulls a scorched earth strategy to the convention she kills any chance she has of holgin’ on to a national constituency to be a player in national issues in the eight most critical years in modern American history. She is a lotta things but stupid she is not so I think she’s gunna try and push on to a resolution of the Florida and Michigan fuck-up with the DNC and then cut whatever deal she ken make with Obama. However, I’m afraid that she doesn’t make the decisions in her campaign, I believe that the corporate oligarchy who have paid the bills for her up to this point may not give ‘er a choice (I sure hope I’m wrong).

So now I’m gunna be watchin’ the Clinton supporters around here to see if they are really ready ta follow her over the cliff or if they are gunna jopin their brothers and sisters in the reaslity based Democratic Party.

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, NOW WE GO TO THE REAL BATTLE!!

Whoops…
Invalid ID is what I get.

John McCain supports torture of human beings by the United States of America

attack. Attack. ATTACK. ATTACK.

G’nite Neuro!

Try again

g’nite everyone.

thanks for the great ride tonite, dave.

That one did it.
So, are these from the new album?

We are getting pretty close to the matchup we talked about some months back, when I was certain that only Edwards could beat McCain (who very few of us saw coming).
So - can Senator Obama beat Senator McCain?

Hey newt- great YouTube link.

And, let me add this one:

THE ROLLING STONES - LIVE IN 1967 - GET OUT MY CLOUD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss02sfQinxI

And anyone who knows my other side at FDL will know that I am a huge Stones fan. And, this Stones thing is one I keep reprising in various forms:

Sympathy for the Devil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ARdG5oseo

My only doubt about this link is Is this really Mick Jagger? or does he have a not so great body double? Kinda doesn’t look like himself, but Keith Richards? yep, that’s him, no doubt! ;)

[Hillary] is a lotta things but stupid she is not so I think she’s gunna try and push on to a resolution of the Florida and Michigan fuck-up with the DNC and then cut whatever deal she ken make with Obama. However, I’m afraid that she doesn’t make the decisions in her campaign, I believe that the corporate oligarchy who have paid the bills for her up to this point may not give ‘er a choice (I sure hope I’m wrong).

IMHO, she is sponsored by rich neocons who’ll insist that she stay in the race so long as she can do damage to Obama, whom they dislike. Here are the candidates’ Israel-Factor ratings, per Haaretz:
* McCain 7.75
* Clinton 7.5
* Obama 5.12
Obama has the lowest rating of any candidates except Hagel, Vilsack, Clark, and Feingold, but, he’s very close.

IMHO, Hillary will not be allowed to drop out.

p.s. the Stones links I gave above do have a certain political relevance, if you listen in the right way. :) (my way!!! :) )

Yes, release date is Tuesday (unless you come to the CD Party in Hayward, Saturday.

If you want one, contact me through the myspace. I admin that site. .

We are getting pretty close to the matchup we talked about some months back, when I was certain that only Edwards could beat McCain (who very few of us saw coming).
So - can Senator Obama beat Senator McCain?

IMHO, McCain is very vulnerable, and Obama is much better than I’d given him credit for.

That said, IMHO, Obama has to be much more aggressive and on-the-offensive than he has been against Clinton.

He has everything going for him, the wind to his back. This is a Democrats’ year, but … there is the Atwatter factor that Greenwald talks about in his book and that we saw come into play with Rev. Wright. That could have been fatal to Obama.

IMHO, the only place for him to survive is on the in-your-face offensive, and that isn’t where he is comfortable. But, he has done exceptionally well so far, so who am I to say how he should campaign. But others, like us here, should: attack. Attack. ATTACK. ATTACK.

Night gigs are out, but we definitely want the CD!
I know about the guitarist (yeah), but the organ is manned by…?

Ray, our keyboard player. Drop me a note at myspace and or here and I’ll let you how and how much. :-)Thanks!

Trying again on the second Stones link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ARdG5oseo

I think the beauty for Senator Obama is that McCain is so damned vulnerable on the truth, that Obama need not “expand”. My real worry now is that, if recent events are any indication, the Dem message-machine is anemic, pathetic, and manned by simps.

Get the surrogates out early, well-informed, and smelling blood..

Lack of “media equity” is killing us.

That one did it!

I think we have to get down and dirty during this cycle. They’re going to make HRC’s attacks look like Mary Poppins. We have to be willing to fight their fight. If we get dirty, we do, we can raise the level of discourse AFTER those republican FUCKS are out of office. Until then, no retreat, no surrender, no prisoners.

That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it.

You may, unfortunately, have it right.
I would love to see “Loud & Proud,” but unless we drive the terms (which Dems aren’t adept at doing), they will drive us.

My real worry now is that, if recent events are any indication, the Dem message-machine is anemic, pathetic, and manned by simps.

Progressives need to learn to do real smackdowns on these MSM assholes. Even that little bit that came up after the horrible CNN debate caused some of the perps to rethink a bit. It’s very much like working the refs. Let’s learn how to stay in their faces.

I, for one, never thought that street demonstrations during the Vietnam war had anything other than a negative impact. Subsequent reading has convinced me of the opposite. Both Johnson and Nixon were haunted by them, and we’d never have left Vietnam without them.

Until then, no retreat, no surrender, no prisoners.

attack. Attack. ATTACK. ATTACK.

It seems to me that Party leaders are perfectly positioned to assume the roles of “Media Throttlers,” but looking at this bunch - Nancy, Harry (who we will have a little conversation with here Saturday), and the rest of the criminally negligent Democrats in the House and Senate, are simply not up to the task.

It’s us. Literally, it is us - pure Progressives - who will carve out the space for our nominee to campaign in, and to drive our Senators and Critters to get tough on the Goopers and not let up.

It’s us. Literally, it is us - pure Progressives - who will carve out the space for our nominee to campaign in, and to drive our Senators and Critters to get tough on the Goopers and not let up.

Dooood!

Speaking of Dirty Harry Ried, did you catch this from Glenzilla today?

I’m to the point where coffee doesn’t taste right unless I’m reading Glenzilla. I love the smell of shredded wingnuts in the morning.

1,834 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

Citizen Wigwam and anyone else crazy enough ta be up:

“…us-pure progressives-who will carve out the space for our nominee…”

That’s one of the reasons I trust Obama not to curve ta the right…his base constituency is the Black vote and they don’t truck any bullshit politics AND us progressives, students and marginalized independants. He can’t take any portion of his base for granted like Mr. Bill and his wife because he can’t triangulate us with the fascist vote ‘cuz thy’re spoken for. When Obama says “change” it’s code to us and it don’t mean a new fascism with a friendly face. And as for the “blue collar” vote…ya think any union or former union worker is likely ta vote for a fascist??!!

So all a this is why the rulin’ krypto-Nazis and their lobbyist gobblins are scared ta death a this guy…and by extension by his base!

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, WE GOTTA GET THIS GUY’S BACK!!

Yeah, I read it.
After that grievously stupid performance on TDS Monday night, I could hardly bare to look.
But I’m a masochist (eg: Progressive), and it’s Glenn.

And all I have to say about Reid’s contention that RGJoe is “with us on everything but the war” is…
KATRINA!
KATRINA!
KATRINA!
So the already tenuous linkages between the occupation of Iraq and every other issue you can think of is…
bullshit.
And this is the guy our Senators picked to “lead.”

Newt and Norske,

G’nite to ya both. And thanks for the good comments. Obama wasn’t my first choice, but he sure as hell seems to be by far the best of what’s left. So let’s get him elected.

I do not understand why more is not made of Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos. Hillary’s victory margin can easily be explained by Repubs crossing over to vote for her, not that they’d admit it. The system is broken. A first order of business is to require cross overs to happen at least a year before they can vote in their new party’s primary

The real Indiana results:
Obama 49%
Clinton 48%
Limbaugh 3%