Comments on: Loose Lips Sink….Oh, Nevermind http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:39:31 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Phoenix Woman http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427535 Phoenix Woman Mon, 05 May 2008 18:57:22 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427535 <p>Hell, they did this to the Clintons in the 1990s all the damned time. The OIC leaked like sieves, but Starr’s overseers were his Federalist Society buddies Sentelle and Silberman, so they faced no penalties for this.</p> Hell, they did this to the Clintons in the 1990s all the damned time. The OIC leaked like sieves, but Starr’s overseers were his Federalist Society buddies Sentelle and Silberman, so they faced no penalties for this.

]]> By: Ann in AZ http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427464 Ann in AZ Mon, 05 May 2008 18:07:37 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427464 <p>I must admit that this is no longer shocking to me. In fact, I have a hard time considering these types of tactics even news! Independent Prosecutor Ken Starr sharpened his teeth by leaking things that weren’t the public’s business to the press for the purpose of trying his case in the press rather than in a court of law! We had not seen this from Archibald Cox or Leon Jaworski like we saw it with Starr. He had absolutely no professional integrity to my way of thinking, and yet now, isn’t he teaching in a law school? Isn’t that law school held in high esteem? Then people wonder how the profession gets such a bad rep. Unfortunately, those that publicize stuff that is not meant for public consumption may be rare, but the fact that they are so vocal magnifies the effect, and makes people think that all prosecutors and attorneys are devoid of integrity. </p> <p>I’m a little surprised that you didn’t address the case of the new Ohio AG as it is written up in TPM. Check it out if you want to get really disgusted! You can find it at TPM under the name Muck Perpetual Motion Machine. (Sorry, I tried to make it a link and that returned an error message 404 on a separate FDL page. Then I tried to cut and paste the url, but it also got me only another FDL page with error message 404, so you’ll have to find the article yourselves, but it’s about a Dem. We have some work to do in our own party!)</p> I must admit that this is no longer shocking to me. In fact, I have a hard time considering these types of tactics even news! Independent Prosecutor Ken Starr sharpened his teeth by leaking things that weren’t the public’s business to the press for the purpose of trying his case in the press rather than in a court of law! We had not seen this from Archibald Cox or Leon Jaworski like we saw it with Starr. He had absolutely no professional integrity to my way of thinking, and yet now, isn’t he teaching in a law school? Isn’t that law school held in high esteem? Then people wonder how the profession gets such a bad rep. Unfortunately, those that publicize stuff that is not meant for public consumption may be rare, but the fact that they are so vocal magnifies the effect, and makes people think that all prosecutors and attorneys are devoid of integrity.

I’m a little surprised that you didn’t address the case of the new Ohio AG as it is written up in TPM. Check it out if you want to get really disgusted! You can find it at TPM under the name Muck Perpetual Motion Machine. (Sorry, I tried to make it a link and that returned an error message 404 on a separate FDL page. Then I tried to cut and paste the url, but it also got me only another FDL page with error message 404, so you’ll have to find the article yourselves, but it’s about a Dem. We have some work to do in our own party!)

]]> By: mui1 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427454 mui1 Mon, 05 May 2008 18:04:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427454 <p><i>So, you see how the leak of the Spitzer prostitution investigation does NOT fit the standard for pre-indictment release of information, right? </i><br /> So I haven’t read the whole post yet. But to the above, yes, yes yes.<br /> <i>Well, it seems that Garcia’s shop is at it again. </i><br /> LHP what do you make of all this? Why are the Rethugs doing this now, when the public is already suspicious of DOJ-related partisanb malarkey?<br /> <i>I don’t see this happening on two different cases unless Garcia is cool with it happening. If he was opposed to the leak, massively intimidating memos would have gone around the office after the Spitzer leak. there might have been mandatory ethics training on the topic. There would have been all manner of staff meetings on it and the people who work for him would have known it would not be tolerated.</i><br /> Or maybe they patted each other on the back?</p> <p>As an aside. Congratulations to Jane on roasting McCain on ABC with Sugar Momma Express. Phrases like that stick in the public’s mind. It should be used regularly, so that it becomes conventional wisdom.</p> So, you see how the leak of the Spitzer prostitution investigation does NOT fit the standard for pre-indictment release of information, right?
So I haven’t read the whole post yet. But to the above, yes, yes yes.
Well, it seems that Garcia’s shop is at it again.
LHP what do you make of all this? Why are the Rethugs doing this now, when the public is already suspicious of DOJ-related partisanb malarkey?
I don’t see this happening on two different cases unless Garcia is cool with it happening. If he was opposed to the leak, massively intimidating memos would have gone around the office after the Spitzer leak. there might have been mandatory ethics training on the topic. There would have been all manner of staff meetings on it and the people who work for him would have known it would not be tolerated.
Or maybe they patted each other on the back?

As an aside. Congratulations to Jane on roasting McCain on ABC with Sugar Momma Express. Phrases like that stick in the public’s mind. It should be used regularly, so that it becomes conventional wisdom.

]]> By: BooRadley http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427421 BooRadley Mon, 05 May 2008 17:46:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427421 <p>Great post and thread, thanks lhp.</p> Great post and thread, thanks lhp.

]]> By: msmolly http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427411 msmolly Mon, 05 May 2008 17:41:13 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427411 <p>I literally can’t help it. Spelling or grammar glitches or typos literally jump off the page at me when I’m only reading for content. Sometimes it’s a useful skill, sometimes it just annoys people. Where I work (a university IT organization) I’m the resident wordsmith.</p> I literally can’t help it. Spelling or grammar glitches or typos literally jump off the page at me when I’m only reading for content. Sometimes it’s a useful skill, sometimes it just annoys people. Where I work (a university IT organization) I’m the resident wordsmith.

]]> By: Prairie Sunshine http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427390 Prairie Sunshine Mon, 05 May 2008 17:29:15 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427390 <p>dday has a companion piece up <a href="http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/thugs-are-out-by-dday-kudos-to-raw.html" rel="nofollow">over at digby</a> drawing from the Don Siegelman case. </p> <p>The Republicans have really been holding hostage and gang-raping Lady Justice during BushCo.</p> dday has a companion piece up over at digby drawing from the Don Siegelman case.

The Republicans have really been holding hostage and gang-raping Lady Justice during BushCo.

]]> By: TobyWollin http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427387 TobyWollin Mon, 05 May 2008 17:25:15 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427387 <p>Well, I don’t know about that, but here’s a case where the person is suing the prosecutor’s SUPERVISOR for negligence.<br /> <a href="http://www.reason.com/news/show/126125.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.reason.com/news/show/126125.html</a></p> Well, I don’t know about that, but here’s a case where the person is suing the prosecutor’s SUPERVISOR for negligence.
http://www.reason.com/news/show/126125.html

]]> By: Funnydiva2002 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427386 Funnydiva2002 Mon, 05 May 2008 17:24:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427386 <p>bwa-ha, bwa-ha, bwa-hahahaha!</p> <p>You’re smokin’ today, BC! Thanks for the chuckles.</p> <p>FunnyD</p> bwa-ha, bwa-ha, bwa-hahahaha!

You’re smokin’ today, BC! Thanks for the chuckles.

FunnyD

]]> By: earlofhuntingdon http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427385 earlofhuntingdon Mon, 05 May 2008 17:22:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427385 <p>I guess that makes the CheneyBushRove Justice Department an example of Gresham’s Law.</p> I guess that makes the CheneyBushRove Justice Department an example of Gresham’s Law.

]]> By: Prairie Sunshine http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427382 Prairie Sunshine Mon, 05 May 2008 17:21:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/loose-lips-sinkoh-nevermind/#comment-1427382 <p>Then all the more reason to bring voice to this to the Senate Judiciary Cttee and to Mukasey. After all, this was his own Court, wasn’t it? Is he okay with being mocked by the bad acts of current underlings and those over whom he once presided? Just asking.</p> Then all the more reason to bring voice to this to the Senate Judiciary Cttee and to Mukasey. After all, this was his own Court, wasn’t it? Is he okay with being mocked by the bad acts of current underlings and those over whom he once presided? Just asking.

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