Comments on: Dear Steny: We Won’t Get Fooled Again http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:38:37 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: mmc9431 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1428203 mmc9431 Tue, 06 May 2008 01:55:41 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1428203 <p>It doesn’t strike me as a loyalty oath at all. I believe that there are principles or policies that the party adopts. I think defending the Constitution is something all politicians swear an oath to uphold. I would have no problem in ousting any politician that chose to ignore that.</p> It doesn’t strike me as a loyalty oath at all. I believe that there are principles or policies that the party adopts. I think defending the Constitution is something all politicians swear an oath to uphold. I would have no problem in ousting any politician that chose to ignore that.

]]> By: Phoenix Woman http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1428179 Phoenix Woman Tue, 06 May 2008 01:41:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1428179 <p>Go get ‘em, Jane!</p> Go get ‘em, Jane!

]]> By: Marion in Savannah http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1428168 Marion in Savannah Tue, 06 May 2008 01:38:57 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1428168 <p>Smacks of a loyalty oath. Am I allowed to be a Democrat because I may have religious scruples you may disagree with, for example?</p> Smacks of a loyalty oath. Am I allowed to be a Democrat because I may have religious scruples you may disagree with, for example?

]]> By: mmc9431 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1428161 mmc9431 Tue, 06 May 2008 01:34:39 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1428161 <p>There should be a standard that is upheld within party principles. If you believe the president is above the law, advocate torture, or disregard the Constitution, then you aren’t(or shouldn’t be allowed to be) a Democrat. Don’t try to be a wolf in sheeps clothing. You should announce to your constituents that you are a Republican but are ashamed to admit it.</p> There should be a standard that is upheld within party principles. If you believe the president is above the law, advocate torture, or disregard the Constitution, then you aren’t(or shouldn’t be allowed to be) a Democrat. Don’t try to be a wolf in sheeps clothing. You should announce to your constituents that you are a Republican but are ashamed to admit it.

]]> By: mmc9431 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1428156 mmc9431 Tue, 06 May 2008 01:30:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1428156 <p>As both Obama and Clinton have spoken out against amnesty, it’s time they showed leadership over this. They should be pressing their backers to follow their suit. <strong>This goes for McCaskill as well! </strong></p> As both Obama and Clinton have spoken out against amnesty, it’s time they showed leadership over this. They should be pressing their backers to follow their suit. This goes for McCaskill as well!

]]> By: behindthefall http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1427954 behindthefall Mon, 05 May 2008 23:46:47 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1427954 <p>Thanks for the info.</p> <p>Yikes. To put it mildly. I’ve often wondered what the elite talk about when they meet and greet. I’ve been reading some books on the “Dark Ages”, “Middle Ages” — basically from about 400 to 1300 A.D. — and seeing a whole lot of parallels. The implications for our future in this country are horrific, from the point-of-view on the non-elite, anyway. Interestingly, we seem to have compressed the Fall of the Roman Empire as exprienced up in Europe into a couple of decades.</p> Thanks for the info.

Yikes. To put it mildly. I’ve often wondered what the elite talk about when they meet and greet. I’ve been reading some books on the “Dark Ages”, “Middle Ages” — basically from about 400 to 1300 A.D. — and seeing a whole lot of parallels. The implications for our future in this country are horrific, from the point-of-view on the non-elite, anyway. Interestingly, we seem to have compressed the Fall of the Roman Empire as exprienced up in Europe into a couple of decades.

]]> By: boogiecheck http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1427887 boogiecheck Mon, 05 May 2008 23:12:05 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1427887 <blockquote><p>Because of that, all the bad ideas that get thrown out, get to come back to life because the folks with the memories are gone.</p></blockquote> <p>Yes, I can see that happening. I don’t know what the answer is, because the present scenario isn’t working, either.</p>

Because of that, all the bad ideas that get thrown out, get to come back to life because the folks with the memories are gone.

Yes, I can see that happening. I don’t know what the answer is, because the present scenario isn’t working, either.

]]> By: dakine01 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1427883 dakine01 Mon, 05 May 2008 23:06:42 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1427883 <p>Realize that “Term Limits” is a creation of the right wing. It is an artificial solution to an artificial problem and the end result is every few years there’s a complete turnover in the various elected bodies that are bound by it.</p> <p>Because of that, all the bad ideas that get thrown out, get to come back to life because the folks with the memories are gone.</p> <p>It is a cliche but if folks don’t like their elected representatives, then work to get them defeated. But don’t deprive those who do like theirs of their choices to send someone back for years and years.</p> Realize that “Term Limits” is a creation of the right wing. It is an artificial solution to an artificial problem and the end result is every few years there’s a complete turnover in the various elected bodies that are bound by it.

Because of that, all the bad ideas that get thrown out, get to come back to life because the folks with the memories are gone.

It is a cliche but if folks don’t like their elected representatives, then work to get them defeated. But don’t deprive those who do like theirs of their choices to send someone back for years and years.

]]> By: boogiecheck http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1427865 boogiecheck Mon, 05 May 2008 23:01:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1427865 <p>Thanks, Dakine, for the info. It’s so frustrating.</p> Thanks, Dakine, for the info. It’s so frustrating.

]]> By: dakine01 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1427855 dakine01 Mon, 05 May 2008 22:56:31 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/05/dear-steny-dont-piss-on-my-head-and-tell-me-its-raining/#comment-1427855 <p>The primary result of artificial “term limits” is the creation of a class of bureaucrat and lobbyist that maintains the power and institutional memory. That is what has happened in California and other states that did institute “term limits.”</p> <p>The best term limits of all is elections. You know, how Carney got in office in the first place.</p> The primary result of artificial “term limits” is the creation of a class of bureaucrat and lobbyist that maintains the power and institutional memory. That is what has happened in California and other states that did institute “term limits.”

The best term limits of all is elections. You know, how Carney got in office in the first place.

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