MULTI-NATIONAL FORCE-IRAQ
PRESS DESK
BAGHDAD, IRAQ
http://www.mnf-iraq.com
703.343.8790Press Release A080502a
May 2, 2008MNF-I condemns attacks near hospital
BAGHDAD, Iraq — Multi-National Force—Iraq strongly condemns today’s attacks near a hospital in Balad Ruz, located 50 km east of Baqubah, which killed 31 Iraqis and wounded 52, including children.
Al-Qaeda in Iraq continues their malicious tactics against the people of Iraq and their way of life. They have no respect for the rule of law and Iraqi values, and seek violence and chaos in Iraq for their own corrupt agenda.
Multi-National Force-Iraq is working closely with Iraqi authorities to ensure adequate medical supplies and humanitarian assistance for the victims and their families. We are also working closely with Iraqi Security Forces to help find those who planned and directed this attack, to bring them to justice.
On Saturday, the same MNF-I launched an attack on the main hospital in Sadr City, wounding at least 20 and destroying a fleet of ambulances.
Who will bring them to justice?
The MNF-I followed this action with an airstrike which killed 3 young boys and injured others who were searching for cans in the Jamila market to sell and buy food for their families:
About an hour later, at the front line between the southern part of the neighborhood that is held by the American and Iraqi military and the northern section that is held by Shiite militias, the group of children was hit, according to a child and one adult who was injured there and brought to the Sadr hospital.
Haider Abbas, 10, was brought to the hospital with what appeared to be a gaping hole in his back and shrapnel injuries across his stomach. The boy screamed and whimpered in pain, barely able to answer a doctor’s questions.
“My friend brought me to the hospital, but we had to leave the other wounded kids behind,” he said. “The Iraqi Army refused to allow them to be evacuated, but my friend took me anyway.”
The doctor, Abdul Rahman Hadi, said the boy was bleeding internally. “He needs surgery quickly,” Dr. Hadi said. “The irony is that not one of his relatives has come because he is an orphan.”
Another victim of that attack, Ahmad Yahya, 31, whose leg was broken, said the Iraqi Army had blocked evacuation from the area of the attack. “I was with a group of about 15 children who were collecting the empty cans or the trash in Jamila,” he said. “I don’t know why this happened.”
Who will bring them to justice?
On the same day the MNF-I was chastising AQI for attacking “near a hospital” the MNF-I launched an air strike killing two Red Crescent humanitarian aid workers – civilians –in Sadr City.
Who will bring them to justice?
And when Iraqi Parliament members – Sunni, Shia and Kurds – visited Sadr City to evaluate the damage done by the continuing siege and daily air strikes, the Kurdish members of the delegation issued a shocking statement on the MNF-I attacks on the community:
“The aerial bombardment and military operations the U.S. is carrying out in Sadr city are similar to what happened in Halabja,” Iraqi member of parliament Falah Hassan said.
Kurdish legislators who were on the visit also made parallels between what Saddam did in Halabja and what the U.S. is currently doing in Saddam City. The Kurdish deputies spoke on the strict condition of anonymity.
“The current situation in Saddam City is no less tragic than when Halabja was gassed as those that are being targeted and killed (by U.S. fire) are innocent people,” said Hassan who had arranged for the deputies to visit the city.*
Who will bring them to justice?
Not our congressional leadership. Despite the continuing war crimes, Congress moved forward on their plans to sign another blank check for the Iraq occupation – and this week the Senate Armed Services Committee unanimously voted to make Iraq pay for reconstuction and more. As Carl Levin said:
"The American taxpayers are paying for too many things . . . that the Iraqis ought to pay for out of their surplus,
Nancy Pelosi chimed in, saying the House would add similar language to it’s appropriations:
“We’ve spent a fortune on infrastructure in Iraq when we have deficits in infrastructure in our country."
While Iraqis will get to pay to rebuild their hospitals after we bomb them, the Pentagon is making plans for a $5 Billion "five-year development "dream list" — or what some dub an improbable fantasy — to transform the U.S.-protected Green Zone from a walled fortress into a centerpiece for Baghdad’s future" complete with luxury hotels.
Amidst the horrors of last week , there were a few hopeful signs of activism.
The International Longshore and Warehouse Union held an eight-hour strike closing down 29 ports along the West Coast and as Peter Cole noted, “demonstrating the collective power of workers willing to use it.”
The ILWU is demanding "an immediate end to the war and occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan and the withdrawal of U.S. troops from the Middle East." Although the majority of Americans repeatedly have expressed their desire to end the war, President Bush has not obliged us, so it drags on. Because our leaders refuse to listen, ILWU members are taking the next logical step for workers: Strike.
Iraqi port workers struck as well and wrote to thank the ILWU and other workers who acted here today. They went on to mention the conditions union workers face in Iraq:
The pro-occupation government has been attempting to intervene into the workers affairs by imposing a single government-certified labor union. Furthermore it has been promoting privatization and an oil and gas law to use the occupation against the interests of the workers.
We the port workers view that our interests are inseparable from the interests of workers in Iraq and the world; therefore we are determined to continue our struggle to improve the living conditions of the workers and overpower all plots of the occupation, its economic and political projects.
In a call for “an immediate withdrawal of all foreign troops from our country,” a coalition of Iraqi Union leaders have written:
We call upon the governments, corporations and institutions behind the ongoing occupation of Iraq to respond to our demands for real democracy, true sovereignty and self-determination free of all foreign interference.
Five years of invasion, war and occupation have brought nothing but death, destruction, misery and suffering to our people. In the name of our “liberation,” the invaders have destroyed our nation’s infrastructure, bombed our neighbourhoods, broken into our homes, traumatized our children, assaulted and arrested many of our family members and neighbours, permitted the looting of our national treasures, and turned nearly twenty percent of our people into refugees.
On Tuesday, Members of the Iraq Campaign joined with CorpWatch and several other organizations to challenge the board of defense contractor L3 at their annual meeting. Despite participation by an L3 shareholder and a former L3 employee, they were not allowed to attend the annual meeting. CorpWatch also issued an alternative annual report for L3.
US Labor Against the War has issued a call for everyone to contact congress and includes in their message a point that is so often ignored:
• The decision by the U.S. and the British to employ air power against civilian neighborhoods to support the government’s forces constitutes yet one more in a growing list of war crimes that began with the invasion itself – an unprovoked act of aggression based on lies, in defiance of the international community without a declaration of war by Congress.
It’s time for us to bring them to justice.
*For those who don’t remember Halabja, here is the US State Department description – and the more complete discussion here.
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Aloha, Siun!
Hey- a five star hotel with a war view- who wouldn’t wanna stay there!
Time for us to bring them to justice.
We need to follow the lead of the Longshoremen’s strike on Thursday.
Bring them to justice, indeed.
Bring us all to justice.
Justice for war crimes? We cannot even figure out how to sanction torture boy John Yoo, who has plenty of defenders, including Georgetown Law Professor Marty Lederman.
Revolving bar with 360 degree bullet proof glass with views of all the action. Lovely against a winter sky.
This is at the pinnacle of sheer hypocrisy…
I’m stunned…!
Better than Bunker’s Bunker.
Very very strange.
rather stunning eh … they call AQI barbarous and then do precisely the same thing
Well, Siun, I passed on news & photos of U.S. attack on hospital to my army major (now-ex?) efriend. I had thought he hated the war.
He informed me that hating military & hating war = hating my country. Told him I didn’t know that before, & found it an interesting locution. Unfortunately, I think he got it just right for the majority of my country.
He also said that my referring to him as a “military type” reminded him of those who refer to “black types.” I pointed out that there was a small difference, i.e., one was voluntary and the other was not, that he was not born “military,” and that he could quit.
Seems like our email exchanges have boiled down to trying to torture each other. Not sure who is winning this dismal exchange, but like a scab, I can’t let it unpicked.
It’s as if their public affairs people used to work in the Rove White House….
oh, wait.
Project much?
The cororate media aren’t going to report truthfully – not usually, anyway – they’d rather give us headlines like this
with the same crap they’ve been running for the last couple of months: McCain the heroic ex-POW who talks to everyone and ‘accessible’ in town-hall type meetings, Obama reserved and standoffish and only appearing in large gatherings (implying also all pre-approved questions).
THE most daring attack of the week—and certainly one of the most embarrassing—occurred when 19 Viet Cong commandos of the C-10 Sapper Battalion made the U.S. embassy their target. When Ambassador Ellsworth Bunker opened the white reinforced-concrete complex last September, few American missions ever settled into more seemingly impregnable quarters. Looming behind a lO-ft.-high wall, the six-story symbol of U.S. power and prestige is encased in a massive concrete sunscreen that overlaps shatterproof Plexiglas windows. The $2.6 million building contains such an array of fortresslike features that Saigon wags soon dubbed it “Bunker’s Bunker.” Yet the Viet Cong attackers gained access to the embassy compound and rampaged through it for 6½ hours before all were killed and the embassy was once again secure.
Thanks.
“Unfortunately, I think he got it just right for the majority of my country.”
I fully believe that the public is with the progressive movement. I just got back from Mississippi. I was amazed at the changes in attitude.
Just a matter of time, really.
Always like to lend perspective when possible.
Luxury green zone hotel brings to mind the people who packed lunches and drove their buggies out of Washington to watch the Battle of Bull Run—got more than they bargained for….
So glad you said that. It’s what I have been saying for the last couple of years and it seems that it doesn’t register with people. The south is not like it used to be. Thanks
The majority think the Iraq war is a bad idea. That is not the same as hating war and hating the military. The same people who claim to disfavor the Iraq war would agree that I am anti-American for hating the U.S. military. Somehow, they don’t see the relationship between the military and war.
The south never was the way it used to be.
I’ll believe THAT when I see it here in Georgia.
Thanks Siun.
Yea? They love lost causes I guaran-godamn-tee it!
I am going to think about that tomorrow.
Or in Florida. shiiiiiitttttt
me, too. ???
Frankly, my dear…
Florida doesn’t count.
Doesn’t or can’t?
I don’t know nothing bout birthin babies.
See yer talkin southern– nice job.
both.
Righto. FL
doesn’tcan’t count, only the SOCTUS does.Well I’ve been here 24 flippin years.
the Pentagon is making plans for a $5 Billion “five-year development “dream list” — or what some dub an improbable fantasy — to transform the U.S.-protected Green Zone from a walled fortress into a centerpiece for Baghdad’s future” complete with luxury hotels.
McCain plans to increase the Pent Budget dovetails nicely with this. Another Privatized arrangement, no doubt. Which hoteliers will jump at the opportunity to build hotels with zero capital at risk and the added bonus of skimming off a million or two as well?
I see no particular difference north or south … none of us have been able to stop the war crimes.
I am encouraged by the new directions the Iraq Campaign are discussing – like taking the case to the shareholders of the companies profiting from this horror … and they have more plans on the way.
I do satire occasionally. Considering the subject, it is satire of the darkest imaginable I am afraid. Perhaps this will amuse you. (I wrote and posted it at Eschaton where it is my wont to hang out most of the time) But I am a constant FDL reader if only an occasional contributor.
NEW YORK(AP) – The National Football League announced today that beginning in the year 2012 there will be an expansion team awarded to the Baghdad, Iraq. The team, tentatively called the Djinn will play in the proposed domed stadium to be built within the confines of the “Green Zone” in Baghdad. NFL Spokesperson Sonny P.Onus said, “We look forward to truly making this an international sport. We have witnessed the marvelous results our brave soldiers and marines have had with soccer balls here and figured that if they can make inroads with that sissy game, why, think of what we can do with a manly game like real football?”
A team of investors believed to be led by George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, and Richard Cheney — all former government officials — have secured the rights to the franchise. According to documents filed with the league they have already contracted Blackwater Security as their contact people in Baghdad and named Eric Prince as chief operating officer.
They have also awarded the concession rights to KBR and the merchandising rights to Halliburton. A spokesman for Halliburton, Ray P.Thame said, “While we have little experience in exploiting logos and such, we have great experience in exploitation and believe we will be just fine.”
A search for a coach has been initiated and they will be in charge of putting together the team. It is believed that the normal amount of pay that players receive will be waived due to the special circumstances of playing in the confines of the IED Bowl. Players are expected to be compensated at the going rate for employees working in the Green Zone under license – that is, they sign their contracts in the US and add three zeros for their true rate of pay : payable in bricks of $100 bills, antiquities, or unsecured explosives….
gotta love that press release, they are trying to verify mccains lack of military knowledge
from now on any insurgent attack in Iraq is gonna be “al qaeda in Iraq”
Florida’s just a temporary rise in the ocean floor- soon all the bugs an gators’ll go back to the sea.
Apparently Marriot is already involved in the discussions – they are mentioned in the article.
Oh- well then ya oughta.
“People in Mississippi need to come to Chicago to learn how to hate”
Martin Luther King
Well considering there are 21 mega bases and Congress supposedly never authorised funding permanent bases.. I guess the new loophole is calling bases Condos.
I “feel like that I might could”.
Now lissen heah, y’all gotta stop sayin’ all this bad stuff ’bout Florida’s Republicans. They cain’t hep it if their family tree is a straight line.
Unfortunately, Maliki, as our tool, told the Delegation to F*ck off
I go into greater detail here…
he missed one stat;
“and turned 90 percent of the populace into insurgents”
oh wait, let me correct myself;
“and turned 90 percent of the Iraqi’s into alqaeda “
this decider is BRILLIANT!
Welcome DWDD – good to have you here … and thanks for the smile in the midst of all this.
FWIW, the states south of the Mason Dixon line, don’t have a lock on all the white supremacists.
Straight line to hell.
Precious.
And goes along with some Western sociologists of the 20th century who argued that sport is a metaphor for the advancement of society, meaning specialization of tasks. In soccer, every player is unspecialized and runs around the field willy nilly, whiereas in U.S. football, every player has his specific task. Therefore, societies that play football are more advanced than those that play soccer.
Q.E.D.
There’s a southern accent, where I come from
The young’uns call it country
The yankees call it dumb
I got my own way of talkin’
But everything is done, with a southern accent
Where I come from
T Petty
and pray tell, what do we think turned this boy into an orphan?…possibly the glorious liberation from the decider?
rwcole,
left you a message downstairs.
Maliki’s response was stunning … no concern for human rights there nor for his own citizens.
Taht figures. Marriot is a big Rethuglican contributor. I always avoid staying at Marriot. Saw it at Buy Blue.
I was furious – though not surprised – to see that news of the hospital bombing has already faded from the headlines on google and even newsnow.
I keep hoping that some other governments will follow the lead of the head of Malaysia who identified our actions as war crimes. We clearly are unable to stop this ourselves – and I keep hoping some other nations will step in for the good of the people of Iraq.
Not to mention that Marriott is owned by a Mormon.
I only wonder whom Maliki is more beholden to, us or Iran, I mean that in all seriousness…!
I never stay there either … they have zero smoking rooms
Mine are so old that they’ve been made historic monuments.
Essential to have Maliki’s kind of cooperation in his sector of the GWOT. Iraq is the front line in the WOT. ‘Til its Iran’s turn.
How are these companies allowed to ban actual shareholders from their annual meetings?
BTW, all these pipe dreams about Disney in Iraq and sports palaces in the Green Zone remind me of all the business opportunity in Iraq that W held right after the invasion. When reality fails, create your own, as they said.
Mine are so old they think I am their child.
Yeah but ya get a bedside Book of Mormon—read it one night when I couldn’t sleep—Couldn’t get past the angel named “Macaroni”
Course that must have been translated from the Aramaic.
Mine are so old that they cut a hole in one and drive cars through him.
Precurser to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, no doubt.
How cheesy.
Maliki has only one ticket outta the clusterfuck, and it’s got Bush’s name on it.
Iraqis want nothing to do with him, except his corrupt brethren.
Ok. How old are they damnitall?
Plus I don’t understand that last thing you said.
Mine are 31 and 34.
Good question – I know CorpWatch is looking into this and I’ve connected them with some of my SRI friends …
al-Maliki knows for sure now that the US is going to back him up on any play he makes (read take over when the Madhi Army starts handing GZG troops their asses on a platter.) The longer al-Malaki waits the longer al-Sadr has to organize his people. It’s a situation I don’t think al-Maliki can win. al-Maliki appears to have been bitten by the power bug and will now proceed to really make things FUBAR.
Shouldn’t they complete the GZ mega embassy, provide safe drinking water and electricity to all of Baghdad and go, lets say, one year without an attack, before the taxpayers pentagon starts building luxury condos?
40 and 37
Maliki’s ticket out is all the graft he’s accumulating in Swiss bank accounts.
So that makes you way older than me. I was a child bride.
Hi folks.
Weekly link to Red Crescent here. The need in Iraq needs no mention.
thanks, Siun.
He can take over Col Luan’s liquor store in Orange County.
So yesterday was World Press Day, and today an Iraqi journalist was murdered in Mosul.
Maybe Cindy McCain will buy a milliondollar condo in the Green Zone. House Number Nine.
With an in-law suite for Lindsey and RGJoe.
Ding!
I suspect that Maliki knows – as Teddy said – that his only chance to come out alive is to play along with whatever Washington says.
Its all about continuing the bust out of the US Treasury.
Maybe they should fix the electrical problems on the bases, also…
Laura – thank you. The Red Crescent needs our support more than ever – folks, please donate to them as much as you can.
He could take over Ky’s old liquor store in LA.
I was married before I was born.
Those deaths are not included in the numbers of American Troop Deaths. Only combat deaths comprise the 4000+.
I agree wholeheartedly! Did you see that the Iranians told Maliki’s delegation to come talk to us after you/the US stop bombing Sadr City…?
Anybody know anyone in South Africa that might have some pull with helping an Iraqi surgeon get a visitor’s visa? I know this is a long shot, but I’m looking for some help for an neurosurgeon who has the opportunity to study neuroendoscopy for a month at the neurosurgery program of Durban University. It’s an open invitation, he just needs to get a visa to get over there for a month.
Anyone know anyone who might know someone?
I had sex before I was born.
They could let him get “killed by AQI” but who would replace him? Would the US dare to try to install Chalibi?
Sorry, it was Loan, the Tet executioner. He had a pizza joint in Virginia.
That’s illegal in Mississippi
Where are Harry Truman and Izzy Stone when we need them? This stern letter-writing about war-profiteering must come to a head, and now. We need some indictments, convictions and imprisonments.
If we elect a Democrat, only to have a bygones presidency on war profiteering and war crimes, I will support an insurgent progressive to lead my party in 2012.
I’m not from Mississippi. I am from NOLA. You can have sex with the undead dead if you want. Just don’t tell Rev. Hagee. He might have God send another herbicane.
Mary just what kind of sex was that??? That is definitely a new one on me???
A long shot. What’s your time horizon? I’m having lunch in NYC with an economist from a S. African bank on June 5. I doubt he could help, but I’d be happy to ask.
Clown car sex.
Oh!
According to Mike Huckabee, that should be your Constitutional right.
Well really she was jest makin out an someone said “Get a womb”.
It’s open ended. He is welcome there whenever he can get there. He’ll have to take all his holidays at once to make this work (he works 24 days in a row and then gets 7 off–imagine) but it sounds like his hospital is up for giving him the time when he can get the visa.
The sticking point is the visa. No one wants to give them to Iraqis. I told him I’d try to hunt up some help for him. I’m hoping that this will be a ripple thing, and something will work out.
I didn’t say this: thank you e-Cahn…..Thank you very much.
Who? Babawa Wawah?
Laura – I’ll keep my ears open. I think a colleague in the UK may know some folks in SA.
Make sure it is a womb with a view.
Well yes- but then there is plenty of room for confusion among the very young.
OK punaise
OK. I’ll be in touch with my colleague by email, probably tomorrow. I’ll ask. Any other information that you can provide me that would be compelling? Otherwise, I’ll just pull from your 101.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed. When I have something to share, I will otherwise I am here lurking mostly.
Punaise and I are close personal friends. Or at least he gave me a ride once.
Didn’t Virgina Woolf write an essay: A Womb of One’s Own?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A…..8217;s_Own
Thank you Siun. I’d like to bird dog this for him. This guy works all day, 24 days in a row. He’s in charge of a neurosurgical team (as a 5th year resident, he has folks in their first-fourth years working under his supervision). Today, for example, he had 2 elective surgeries in the morning and then spent all afternoon and evening doing ER neurosurgery. Then he escapes to the internet before snatching a little sleep and doing this all over again.
She was just barking up the wrong tree.
Is there a way I can email you details about him and about the program he’s hoping to get to?
BTW, I just finished ranting about real wombs here.
You are an *****. I moved from NY to Mississippi in the Air Force in 1958 and it was KKK and Southern Baptist hatred non-stop.
Mod note: Welcome, we do not condone personal attacks or name calling around the lake. Enjoy your swim.
Hey, Dood! Incoming to pacnet…! ;-)
Nice.
Watch your step mister. I don’t think you understood the meaning of the comment.
Nice talkin to ya!
We tend to dissuade personal attacks, disagree by all means, but please don’t make it personal…! 8-(
Got it, thanks. Mod, can you clear 123 now, please? Thank you.
so, nobody wants to wonder how the hell they can tell this is “al qaeda in Iraq”?
Yes, indeed. This mania to “get Vietnam right” seems to be destroying the country.
We got Vietnam right. They beat us and we left. Simple. Unsettling for some but simple.
Once we get done refighting and winning the VN War, we should refight & win Korwan War and War of 1812. So many wars, so little time.
Back at you!
those are Iraqi’s everyone, they are not some afghanistan organization and they are not masterbinded by bin laden
all done
here’s what these hawks just don’t get;
we are not occupiers, we are Americans, we do not want to occupy another country
they will get this eventually but not before too many people die, too many have died already and they still don’t get it
not quite
you also have to take out the quote link from 131
Um, well, we occupy the United States. Your comment is contrary to the facts.
The AQI forces are a bit confusing. Some foreign fighters have come in – and many Iraqis have not been happy with them. At the same time, the US and the GZG label so many forces AQI, it’s impossible to sort out.
Is it A Mormon? I thought Marriot was owned by the church…which always made me wonder why alcohol was served in the restaurants.
Cool, much mahalo! I certainly appreciate your efforts! 8-)
The long answer is “money.”
Marriott is now a stock ownership company, I think, but was started by A Mormon. Don’t remember his name & quick google didn’t reveal it but I look again. Pretty sure it’s not owned by the Mormon church.
there’s really not too much confusing going on here, the Iraqi’s want whoever it is to help them get us out but they don’t want al qaeda running Iraq
it is certainly the Iraqi’s that wanted this done otherwise it could not be done
there is no way they could say it was “al qaeda in Iraq”, if they knew it was al qaeda they also knew it was comming and did nothing to stop it
they have no idea what force engineered this attack but they want to say “al qaeda” because it plays better then “the Iraqi’s”
It will be interesting how the ‘Sons of Iraq’ shall fare in the future with Maliki’s singling them out as well, with his threats…!
Have you tried the onecare scan yet??
Bwahahahaha on me. The originator was Willard (do we know another Mormon Willard?) Marriott.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M…..ernational
I just got an email from Francine Busby for a breakfast meeting with Henry Waxman Monday morning. $500 and up. Dang, it costs good money for access, huh?
It doesn’t down load completely it seems to freeze-up at 66%, and, that’s as far as I can get…! 8-(
e-Cahn, ygm. Thanks again.
Sad, no? And he’s one of my heroes, too…!
Don’t the Mormons believe that whatever they need to do to gain power/salvation is just fine-a-rooney? Selling liquor to the heathens would fall into this category.
You mean the tools? And did you allow the activeX to run?
Do you really think you can get access for a mere $500? Think again. There will be hundreds of people at the breakfast. However, I’ve often stood out in a crowd so if you decide to pony up, the tips are to make sure you get the first Q and sit somewhere you can catch him on the way out.
OT – but not so much.
ecahn, i listened to the podcast again (interview of Bruce Gagnon at antiwar.com) and found the reference we were discussing. won’t repeat it here, but the link will take you to my previous comment if you missed it.
Either the complete scan or the safety scan…!
“Windows Live OneCare
Get green. Stay green.
With all-in-one PC protection.”
perversion of a good concept.
I’m no expert on Mormons, though I have often stayed in a Marriott, and I ski in Utah several times/year. But opining on what religious folks think is not my thing.
Laura,
I might. Could I have any more details (or contact you off the blog)? The person who I would ask is not someone I am close to (or even know well), but she is very well connected, so I’d just want to be able to write something coherent to her.
I’d love to go, but it would not only cost the $500., but the days’ wages as well.
Hard to understand how SO MANY people can afford to do this…
Ct you can also try these other online scans… Use the one that matches your virus program
Mormons think?
Not very Christian of me. Sorry.
Thanks. Scales keep falling from my eyes.
Yep. Spend some time in Utah.
True.
Hamid Karzai, our other puppet, has learned at least after 7 long years that being our puppet sucks for his people.
He’s ashamed and wants out.
big time.
My bad. Should have said “believe,” not “think.”
LOL
Nahnoo, Nahnoo.
How do you know that? Do you have a link? I wouldn’t be surprised, just haven’t seen that anywhere.
The Iraqis will eventually kick our butts out. I have always feared for the lives of ALL of our troops.
siun, thanks again for your sunday night posts. they are an anchor of sanity in an insane world.
Oh, that’s my take too. But, it could be that the entire world is hoping/realizing that the Crazy McCane can’t win. Karzai is no dummy.
Yes. Thank you siun. I always look forward to your posts.
Thanks Selise and LooHoo and all … these are a shared conversation and you all keep me hoping we’ll find some answers – or at least raise decent money for Red Crescent.
BTW, Karzai is no George Washington either.
http://in.reuters.com/article/…..1620080406
google back to at least 2006 and you shall find more…
Laura, you wouldn’t mind if I sent ya an email or two, would ya? ;-)
Exactamente. He’s a political guy.
Give the Red Cresent link again. I’ll kick in a bit.
I received my paiting by an Iraqi artist, it’s been framed. Now I must pick it up and hang it. Ifigured out which painting it will replace and anyone coming to the meetup on June 22 will see it. Thaks for the link a month or so ago.
I’m good on the scans, I just need to re-install the module…!
Thanks.
Oh sure. You have favorites.
Here ya go, eCAHN…
http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/si…..enDocument
Of course not! Please do, by all means. and don’t forget you can reach me by fb, too!
Red Crescent donations can be made here – http://donate.ifrc.org/
Select Iraq in the drop down menu.
eCAHN! Hope to see a pic of it in your house. That was really fun; I remember you chose one of my favorites…
Whaa… Since when…! ;-0
One group or another got off a near hit on Mrs. Talibani.
Barely makes news here.
I see that Dicksack Dick Cheney is on the ‘history will look kindly on Chimpy’ propaganda mantra now too.
Maybe Fran Townsend can repeat that bon mot a few times a day on CNN, the most corrupted name in news.
-G
‘Evening everybody;
Well, for certain now, the 4000+ really have not died in vain.
One question:
How dare the ‘Pentagon’ which really means the American MILITARY sign on to such a thing?
Wonder if Clinton or Obama have any thoughts about this ‘plan’, that they might be willing to share?
A new level of UN-reality has definitely been unveiled for our ‘pleasure and convenience …’
Certainly going to be a lot of impotent grumbling over the next little period of time.
Can’t you just feel it already?
Hmm, wonder if any members of Congress expect to make a killing on this fantastic opportunity to demonstrate free enterprise to the natives? Doing ‘well’ by doing ‘good’ …
I mean, is this not ‘Murkan Capitalism at its bestest?
Excuse me, I have to go out and bark at the tree in the back yard. It has simply gone too fir …
Just kidding, CTuttle. How are the breezes?
apropos the Red Crescent, Siun, I was wondering what it would be like to, in addition to the weekly post of the link, maybe once a month, having on sort of online fundraiser….maybe we could set a goal and see how close we get to it…..just a thought…..
Our destruction of a hospital and ambulances in Sadr City is a WAR CRIME.
It’s ours, we own it, and I don’t give a hoot about the usual blather of ’sparing innocent civilians’ and blaming those that are being targeted in an urban environment from hiding behind said same civilians.
It is a WAR CRIME…. over and over and over again.
wait, David. I pine for your attention. Please take a look at my 93. Thanks.
Laura – that’s a very good idea. I’m travelling the coming week but let’s connect after – I’d like to see if we can get several blogs to join in.
Tropical…! *g* I did get rained on half way through my morning walk… The rain cloud came in fast and furious…!
Precisely Angie – International Law is very clear on this. And it is ours – our government, our soldiers, our taxes.
Did so Laura, thinking cap ‘on’.
M&C is reporting for duty, Ma’am! ;-)
Super CT! That’s great .. I’ll copy you in on our planning.
Thanks CTuttle & siun. Made a donation.
That would be excellent. If the “Blog Powers” that be could get together and determine a specific day to help the Iraqis. Maybe all democrats, including DNCC types.
Bu’ush could give a flyin’ shit about “international law” — except where it’s ostensibly applicable to others.
It would be good if we could keep track of how much money is raised thru U.S. lefty blogs. (If it’s small, we don’t need to report it. If it’s big, we can use it to show that we put our money where our ethics are.)
Well, that’s true. He didn’t think that Saddam Hussein should be in power, so he corrected that situation.
Except that the way he corrected it was/is criminal.
YES and I meant to put the word ‘hiding’ (in cynical quotes) when I wrote my 191.
Blaming the victims for our “precision” targeting makes me gag and hang my head in shame and disgust.
Saddam Hussein was none of his business.
I’ll bet it would be a large amount, and that we could be proud. Good publicity before the elections too, maybe. Let the general public get a little info from Siun.
I totally agree, but will not be holding my breath w/respect to accountability.
Thanks, dearie. Did you get my email address?
I’ll chat with Jane and see what we can arrange. BTW, I’ll be away next Sunday but back the following week.
Oh wonderful, wonderful!
(and yay CT!!)
None of anyone’s, except the Iraqis.
Heh, it’s an offer I couldn’t refuse…! ;-)
Must have missed it, Laura. But would appreciate said address fir shore.
Thanks.
I hope you’re going to get a nice vacation, Siun! (Or is it a working time?)
There are two ways to raise money for worthy causes: a few number of large amounts from a few wealthy donors or a large number of small amounts from modest donations. The latter are a far more powerful statement than the former. We need to start projecting our collective power.
I was very impressed by the over half-a-million raised n the lefty blogs for the 2006 elections. (Forget the prez candidates. Star power is not what we’re after.) That was the first time we tried. In addition, we got results, unlike the Ron Paul phenomenon. We need to publicize our successes.
Check out 168 unless the mods already scrubbed it…!
Work as usual but I get to go to Amsterdam … big business conference so mostly work time but I’ll manage a visit to the Van Gogh museum which I love.
What a great and meaningful idea Laura and Siun!
Do you remember the website that happened right after the war started, where Americans could post their pictures and express their rejection of the invasion? I often wonder what it would be like if there were a place where Americans could youtube/print post their support and care for Iraqis. I think we need to do more to let people of the world know we care.
Me too. *sigh*
I loved Amsterdam and their fresh ‘green’ salads…! ;-)
Amsterdam is Da.Bomb. The best thing I ever saw there is the hidden Catholic Church. While more religously tolerant than most countries of the era, Netherlands allowed Roman Catholics to worship only in their own houses. So there is still extant a R.C. church inside an ordinary house. I’ll search it out for you.
I’m just thinking that there are so many Americans who feel horrible about what W has done to the Iraqi people, that it would be wonderful to be able to express our “guilt” by way of major contributions (that Siun and her network would control). If democratic leaders got behind this, it could reframe the discussion. I agree that many doners are more powerful than a few multi-bucks folks.
Hey guys. Another Sunday and another great post from Siun. And McCain will go rtight on talking about “bulding on our secrurity gains” and nobody but nobody in the mainstram meedia, with a few exeptions, will call him on it.
I told this story last week but…… Inoticed an blurb last week that we had killed five militants (whomever that is) in 3 bombing raids. Two blurbs
down (my town’s paper doesn’t even have articles on tne war – just AP blurbs) two bad guy car bombs killed 5 people. US= 3 bombing raids to kill 5 people. THEM= blow up 2 jalopies for same result. At that rate, just how the hell would this war ever end? Not even in 100 years.
umhm CT … I no longer indulge but they do offer a big selection.
Ooo, Siun, do check the Rijksmuseum, if renovation is finished: the collection of Dutch Masters is phenomenal. If you have a minute, the Rembrant house is interesting. I picked up some really great copies of some of his prints at a great price, made on site from copper plates copied directly from the originals.
Dear mod, I will need 168 and 216 to be cleared after DWBartoo notes down the address. Thanks for your trouble. (Actually, if you’d purge the address in 168 now, that’d be handy, since I put the whole thing in instead of writing out…..thanks.)
Here’s the website.
http://www.europestring.com/am…..en-church/
It’s way cool, even if you’re an athiest like me. So do go visit it.
Thanks for bringing that up this week as well.
Heh, sorry, did I mention all the canals were cool too…? ;-)
I was just going to say CT, you’re so Green.
Ha.
My daughter was there, after college, and told me All About it.
Great. So Siun, figure out computer links to aggregate our power and we’ll take it from there.
Aye!
It really wasn’t too much of his business, was it. He could have kept what was in place through Clinton, and saved everyone a lot of grief. Literal grief.
She’s actually not like that, but, did tell me what she saw.
Oh, how different countries have different focuses.
Thank you Siun, for all you do.
Thank you, mod, David, Parsley, CT, e-Cahn and Angie.
Good night, everyone.
‘Night Laura.
‘Night, all.
One, two, three, four– who and what are we fighting for?
May I ask, what “surplus” do the Iraqis have???
This is why I have criticized the Dems as well as the Thugs!!!!!!!
I will check – I think the renovation is still ongoing but some folks feel that actually makes the Rijksmuseum more approachable. I was raised on a love of Van Gogh … my father taught me at age 2 to say Papa Van Gogh when he pointed to the prints he’s hung all over our apt so that is a special place for me and makes me smile and get teary all at once.
Thanks Ecahn! I’ve bookmarked it and will copy the info before I go … looks amazing!
enjoy, dear Siun!
Good night, Laura.
Aloha, Laura and DWB!
Thanks to Laura and the whole crew for the idea of arranging a fundraiser for Red Crescent – I’ll get that started here and report back in two weeks.
If you build it, they will come.
I hope and pray this will happen.
It is nice to see some sincere concern with the real issue of opposing the ongoing war crime in Iraq … FDL runs the risk of being seen as another (D) electioneering project, which makes principles like ‘Justice’ and sincere opposition to war and torture into mere wedge issues to use against the (R)’s.
Credibility and viability will drain away from (D) captured Netroots when a Democratic President continues and expands the Imperial bloodshed in the middle east.
Siun – great piece. Our longshoremen walked out in Oakland but it got scant coverage here on the West Coast. I really feel the focus is off the war on and the economy. The suffering of civilians in Irak is barbaric – how is it all going to end.