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	<title>Comments on: Another Minuteman Outfit Consorts With Nazis</title>
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		<title>By: Bassface</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/04/another-minuteman-outfit-consorts-with-nazis/#comment-1426931</link>
		<dc:creator>Bassface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 07:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Unless there is a Ridgecrest, AZ, that picture was taken in Ridgecrest, CA, a little town in the Mojave Desert next to China Lake Naval Weapons Testing installation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless there is a Ridgecrest, AZ, that picture was taken in Ridgecrest, CA, a little town in the Mojave Desert next to China Lake Naval Weapons Testing installation.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/04/another-minuteman-outfit-consorts-with-nazis/#comment-1425955</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 18:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;AZ Matt is taking about Russel Pierce….. state rep who puts really putative and radical ballot measures and they pass…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- how about not being to receive an award in state court from an injury from employment because they are an undocumented person. So you loose your arm in the defective chicken plucking plant and they cannot sue&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This gives the game away right here.  They’re not going after the employers.  They’re ENABLING the employers to hire more cheap undocumented labor, knowing that they can do whatever they want to the laborers and the laborers can’t fight back.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does it never occur to the people backing these measures as “protecting American jobs” (not the ones writing them who are obviously in on the con) that these measures COST Americans their jobs, as they remove any sort of downside for hiring undocumented workers at slave wages over a documented worker at a living wage?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>AZ Matt is taking about Russel Pierce….. state rep who puts really putative and radical ballot measures and they pass…</p>
<p>- how about not being to receive an award in state court from an injury from employment because they are an undocumented person. So you loose your arm in the defective chicken plucking plant and they cannot sue</p>
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<p>This gives the game away right here.  They’re not going after the employers.  They’re ENABLING the employers to hire more cheap undocumented labor, knowing that they can do whatever they want to the laborers and the laborers can’t fight back.</p>
<p>Does it never occur to the people backing these measures as “protecting American jobs” (not the ones writing them who are obviously in on the con) that these measures COST Americans their jobs, as they remove any sort of downside for hiring undocumented workers at slave wages over a documented worker at a living wage?</p>
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		<title>By: PJEvans</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/04/another-minuteman-outfit-consorts-with-nazis/#comment-1425948</link>
		<dc:creator>PJEvans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 18:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A lot fewer people this year, though. There were a lot of official vehicles following the one march I saw (mostly street/sanitation dept (yellow), but there was a police bus and a fair number of black-and-whites, also lots of K9s).&lt;br /&gt;
The dancers (feathered folklorico type headdresses) at the end of that one were interesting. There was also a group in it with a ‘Taxi Workers’ sign and a contingent of Korean immigrants.&lt;br /&gt;
Lots of US flags and red-white-and-blue shirts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot fewer people this year, though. There were a lot of official vehicles following the one march I saw (mostly street/sanitation dept (yellow), but there was a police bus and a fair number of black-and-whites, also lots of K9s).<br />
The dancers (feathered folklorico type headdresses) at the end of that one were interesting. There was also a group in it with a ‘Taxi Workers’ sign and a contingent of Korean immigrants.<br />
Lots of US flags and red-white-and-blue shirts.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/04/another-minuteman-outfit-consorts-with-nazis/#comment-1425914</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Watchin the Hawks up in here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/04/another-minuteman-outfit-consorts-with-nazis/#comment-1425913</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Its an election year I’m sure it will go up.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its an election year I’m sure it will go up.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/04/another-minuteman-outfit-consorts-with-nazis/#comment-1425911</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;fdl was down some (coming off the libby trial, that is understandable), and kos was steady.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i don’t think the liberal blogs are continuing to grow readership. but would be happy to be corrected if someone has data.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fdl was down some (coming off the libby trial, that is understandable), and kos was steady.</p>
<p>i don’t think the liberal blogs are continuing to grow readership. but would be happy to be corrected if someone has data.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Isn’t the Sherriff from McCain’s state? Well then that makes the exposure of the goings on in McCain’s state totally relevant to the election. Maybe you could spread the news on Late Nite threads.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the reasons people think that neither Mayor Daley Father or Son has ever run for state or nationwide office is because the goings on in Chicago would become news.&lt;br /&gt;
    Its time for McCain to see what comes of not getting his own house in order first.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn’t the Sherriff from McCain’s state? Well then that makes the exposure of the goings on in McCain’s state totally relevant to the election. Maybe you could spread the news on Late Nite threads.</p>
<p>One of the reasons people think that neither Mayor Daley Father or Son has ever run for state or nationwide office is because the goings on in Chicago would become news.<br />
    Its time for McCain to see what comes of not getting his own house in order first.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Time for the Rays and Red Sox on da radio.  Plus hang out da laundry. Later.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Peace Love Light&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Peace Love Light</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/04/another-minuteman-outfit-consorts-with-nazis/#comment-1425908</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don’t know enough about Arizona politics. But it seems to me that if it applies to Mecha, it would also ban all sorts of clubs based on interest in or affiliation with, ethnicity. Thus you’s also ban Greek, German and French, Asian-American and Philipino clubs, as well as groups like Black-Engineers, NAACP, Cultural dance troupes (Black Rep), and bringing in groups like the Harlem Boys Choir, Ladysmith Black Mambazo (no whites within the Zulu tribe), Chinese acrobatic groups, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It might alwso shut down whole Departments that offer classes involved in examining and understanding issues of ethnicity (just as Mecha doesn’t deny membership to whites, blacks, Native Americans…these courses do not deny admission to peoples of other ethnicities…in fact, they encourage that). One could see that Asian Studies, or Ethnic Studies, or Anthropology Departments being shuttered. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know how they would shut down MECHA UNLESS they expanded the definition of race to ethnicity, and then started “head counting” and defining those who were in the membership*. They’d have to say that there was a certain integration thresh-hold and if you didn’t meet that (say 20% Euro-American) then you would be banned. But that would likely mean that UNLV’s basketball team would have to shut down, and many other sports. And if swimming and golf was mainly white, well that would be “ethnically biased” too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This could actually turn around and bite the racist formulators of the bill…reintroducing hard quotas into Medical schools, Graduate Programs, and student and faculty composition.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*Such bean-counting has already occurred with the No Child Left Behind criteria…where children of mixed-race or black ancestry are sometimes asked to “challenge” their ethnicity described on their forms in order to get the schools exempted from having to count passage of Black students in the mandatory testing requirements (schools that have fewer than 10% AA students can opt not to submit their scores separately). So schools are now redefining the ostensible race of individuals…trying to get smart mixed kids INTO the AA group while excluding those not succeeding, etc.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t know enough about Arizona politics. But it seems to me that if it applies to Mecha, it would also ban all sorts of clubs based on interest in or affiliation with, ethnicity. Thus you’s also ban Greek, German and French, Asian-American and Philipino clubs, as well as groups like Black-Engineers, NAACP, Cultural dance troupes (Black Rep), and bringing in groups like the Harlem Boys Choir, Ladysmith Black Mambazo (no whites within the Zulu tribe), Chinese acrobatic groups, etc.</p>
<p>It might alwso shut down whole Departments that offer classes involved in examining and understanding issues of ethnicity (just as Mecha doesn’t deny membership to whites, blacks, Native Americans…these courses do not deny admission to peoples of other ethnicities…in fact, they encourage that). One could see that Asian Studies, or Ethnic Studies, or Anthropology Departments being shuttered. </p>
<p>I don’t know how they would shut down MECHA UNLESS they expanded the definition of race to ethnicity, and then started “head counting” and defining those who were in the membership*. They’d have to say that there was a certain integration thresh-hold and if you didn’t meet that (say 20% Euro-American) then you would be banned. But that would likely mean that UNLV’s basketball team would have to shut down, and many other sports. And if swimming and golf was mainly white, well that would be “ethnically biased” too.</p>
<p>This could actually turn around and bite the racist formulators of the bill…reintroducing hard quotas into Medical schools, Graduate Programs, and student and faculty composition.</p>
<p>*Such bean-counting has already occurred with the No Child Left Behind criteria…where children of mixed-race or black ancestry are sometimes asked to “challenge” their ethnicity described on their forms in order to get the schools exempted from having to count passage of Black students in the mandatory testing requirements (schools that have fewer than 10% AA students can opt not to submit their scores separately). So schools are now redefining the ostensible race of individuals…trying to get smart mixed kids INTO the AA group while excluding those not succeeding, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: hackworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>hackworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The fascists are feeding the Private Prison Industry, by clogging the system with innocents. This endangers the citizenry because real criminals benefit from a clogged system. Immigration issues and marijuana offenses are filling our jails. Who benefits? - more friends of Bushco.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fascists are feeding the Private Prison Industry, by clogging the system with innocents. This endangers the citizenry because real criminals benefit from a clogged system. Immigration issues and marijuana offenses are filling our jails. Who benefits? &#8211; more friends of Bushco.</p>
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