It’s as though I’m having an affair of sorts, but with another place and time, with the book I’m currently reading.
It was the title that initially grabbed me: "Shadow of the Silk Road." Isn’t that marvelous? The author, Colin Thubron, has superbly melded the glorious scenery and feel of modern China with the tensions and the weight of the past, at least in the part I’m currently reading as he is about to leave Xian. I wanted to share a passage with you this morning, because it struck a chord:
But beneath this artifice, of course, a power was throbbing: the power of trade. In the Western Market where the Silk Road came to rest, two hundred guilds of merchants worked. Their reach was immense. They embraced almost every people between Arabia and Japan: Persians, Turks and central Asian Sogdians especially, Indians, Bactrians, Jews, Syrians. There were times when whole echelons of the Tang court — including its elite bodyguard — were foreign. The moneylenders — sometimes so extortionate that people pledged their slaves and sacred relics — were Uighurs from the west. Along the Silk Road too came the music and dance of Turkestan — a fearsome, whirling flamenco was the rage for years — along with acrobats, jugglers, and trapeze artists; and in the inns near the Gate of Spring Brightness the fair girls of Central Asia sang to flutes and befuddled the poets with their green eyes.
Although the imperial supervision of foreign merchants stayed rigid and finicky, a new tolerance was in the air….The enveloping mantle of the palace ladies slid away, and by early eight century women were to be seen riding like steppeland men in boots and Turkic caps, even bare-headed.
And deeper attachments were at work. For two centuries the capital reverberated with the gongs of Buddhist temples and monasteries. In 645 the pilgrim monk Xuanzang returned from India laden with more than six hundred scriptures, settling to translate them in a pagoda that still stands, and the whole city massed to greet him. Zoroastrianism, Christianity, Manicheism — all were accepted with benign curiosity, while the indigenous faiths of China — Taoism and Confucianism — bided their time.
But by the tenth century this city of complicated glory lay in ruins.
…When all else has disintegrated in the two-thousand-year-old graves of the Han, their silk gifts and shrouds remain, often thinned to colourless slivers, sometimes shockingly vibrant. By Han times the women of every household cultivated silk, and the whole imperial court was shimmering in a hierarchy of complicated grades: silk unicorns and peacocks, poenies and horses….
Above all, for more than a millennium, silk was used to pay off and soften the nomads ravening beyond the Great Wall. Often it took on the status of currency. As lasting as coin, it became salaries, taxes, tribute. By the first century BC the ancestors of the Huns were exchanging its beauty for their horses. In Rome, beyond the other end of the Silk Road, it began fascinating the rich, and subverting the economy. Long afterwards the Visigoths of Alaric, besieging the tired city, were deflected by a partial ransom of four thousand Chinese silks.
So much of the world around us is in chaos so much of the time. But it was ever thus. At the time that all of this was occurring, complex trade had been going on in large parts of the world along the Silk Road and beyond, in nations we hear about on the news as though they were cultures from another planet. But because of this melding all along these trade routes, so much of who we were, and who we are, has been a melting pot all along. Not just here, but across the globe.
One of the things that continues to amaze me is how uninterested and uninformed people can be about history — cultural, political, social, whatever kind you want to label it — and because of this so many self-styled leaders fail to see the pitfalls of their actions when some investigation of what has already passed would have been illuminating in that regard. And without such understanding, we fail to see how we are all connected as though one family stretched out across the passage of time. I never feel like I know enough, and am always curious to find yet another piece of the puzzle that is who we are and why we are here.
What struck me with this was another article I was reading earlier in the week about various delectable sandwiches in the NYC area. So many of them had roots along the cultures of the Silk Road, and it was amusing to think about the various spices that would have traveled this route to city-states and cooks who used and refined their tastes and then passed them down through generations to make their way to a sandwich from a deli in Brooklyn.
We are a meshing of cultures here in the US, in so many ways — isn’t it time we not only celebrated those unique things that each of our family history’s bring to the American table, but also respected what we could learn from one another and our own journeys and those of our ancestors. If we would only listen. Pull up a chair…
(The above YouTube is a selection from Yo-Yo Ma’s latest Silk Road CD.)
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Good morning.
I understand that the Silk Road was made technologically obsolete by developments in sailing ships in Europe, which made travel by sea much more efficient than overland travel.
hi Christy,
if you want to make a comparison you could follow that book with “Riding the Iron Rooster” by Theroux.
the YoYo Ma CD is great. i especially like the music from Iran…
Oh, and BTW, my college is sponsoring a trip to the Silk Road in September. A mere $9,000, not including airfare to & from China. (21 days, I think.) I’m tempted, but it’s not the way I should be spending $9,000.
You’re exactly right about the benefits of reading, Christy…especially about unfamiliar places and histories. Just last night, watching the NBC Nightly’s report on Marines against the Taliban in Afghanistan, Mr. Sunshine said, too bad those who set policy had seemingly never read about the Soviets getting bogged down in Afghanistan before the invasion. We did that wrong on so many fronts, not least diverting to Iraq.
Good morning Christy.
All aboard the Sugar Momma Express.
I went to an art exhibit/sale a couple years ago at Penn’s Anthropology Museum that featured antiques from the areas along the route. It was quite fascinating to see what people used in their daily existence, and some of the subtle influences of other cultures that worked their way into the pieces.
What was a real treat about this, the vendors were there with their booths, and they were very good about sharing their knowledge, and not just there to sell you.
I’m glad I went. It was one of those spur of the moment things that turns out to be so wonderful and satisfying.
Speaking of reading, mentioned this in the last thread, Bob Herbert’s column on media push-pastoring instead of asking the important issues questions is must reading today. Been sayin’, will be watching to see if the media bell cow, Russet, actually reads and heeds Herbert’s words.
Xuanzang had been on that journey for 14 years to gather those scriptures. He’s the basis of the Journey to the West legends that are so beloved in China and all across asia. But the real Xuanzang, had to have been a master at protecting himself and also a diplomat to make such a long, twisting and difficult journey across so many countries and back again.
I wish that our own diplomats would take a page from him and negotiate peacefully, so that all parties emerge alive and well.
It’s not like it’s hard work. You can find Robert Fisk’s “The Great War for Civilisation” at any half decent bookstore. His account of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was eerily reminiscent of the “Mission Accomplished” cakewalk.
Ah, but we have people at the top reaches of our government who believe that the rules of history have no effect on them. They have no curiosity about anyone except for themselves; they have no interest in any other people. They are interested in money and things like oil.
Heya — have read a lot of Theroux, including that one. He’s a hoot — a bit on the cantankerous side, but he cracks me up.
And now, to brew some coffee and get a batch of banana muffins in the oven…
Good morning Christy!
When I was kid and I would sit in my room reading about the other parts of the world, and their customs and cultures, I would take journey in my mind. I do think those times were some the best times in my life.
In college, studying art, art history and mythology, I took those journeys to another level and understanding.
Now as an adult, with the internet, it’s another level of acquiring knowledge and understanding by communicating directly with people from other cultures. It’s been a nice progression.
Hopefully, going forward I’ll be able to direct all this into something tangible.
btw, I found this video — it must be a sort of travel promo video — of China while I was searching for the Yo-Yo Ma. Some of the visuals in it are gorgeous. Thought everyone might enjoy the watching.
The recent movie, The Painted Veil, has some beautiful shots of China, particularly in the area aroung Guilen and Yangchou (sp?).
A couple of travel related books that I’m sure you’ve probably read Christy:
Blue Highways by William Leastheat Moon. A travelogue of the US where the author traveled as much as possible over the highways that show as blue on the roadmaps; the old two-lane highways that the interstate system overtook.
And,
Two Years Before The Mast by Richard Henry Dana. Dana was a Harvard student who dropped out because of eye problems ans shipped as a crew man on a whaling vessel IIRC. This was the first book ever written about the sea from the viewpoint of a common seaman. All previous books about sea faring had either come from ships officers or passengers. (Note to the culturally sensitive: the books was written in the mid 1840s so language reflects the times, using terms that modern day might find offensive).
When I was little, the most exciting “travel” book I got was something on Roy Chapman Andrews, the palaentologist who discovered dinosaur eggs in the Gobi Desert. The story of his travels, the people’s he worked with to find the eggs, the struggles with the desert were just riveting to me.
Good Morning all;
The profound disinterest of the American public in learning about history, other cultures and other philosophies is mirrored in their leadership. Of late this has been accompanied by an assault upon the language itself.
The happy embrace of ‘I don’t do nuance’ is simply reflective of decades during which intellectuals and intellectual endeavor, such as seeking excellence in learning or even cultivating ‘perspective, has been derisively dismissed as ‘unAmerican’ and curiosity is seen as weakness.
The journeys of discovery that so many of us experience and enjoy through reading is not as widespread as we might hope, and sadly, each successive generation has even less interest in reading or nuanced thought.
We have reached the point where ’sound-bite opinion’ is equated with and held superior to carefully considered analysis, we have lost even the merest ability to recognize false argument and call it for what it is.
The current President’s use of ‘You are either withn us or against us’ is known as a classical example of the ‘big stick’ form of false argument, and can be found described precisely as such in what used to be called ‘Philosopy 101′ textbooks, which apparently are no longer read by journalists or other ‘opinion shapers’.
That none of the false arguments used by the Bush administration have been exposed as such, discussed as such and dismissed as such calls into question the efficacy of higher education itself …
That said, there is little that I enjoy as much or more than a good book, when I have either the leisure ‘time’ or even the need to ‘escape’ from our own time, if only for a moment.
Great post, Christy.
UP! With reading and its ability to broaden our minds, open our hearts and confirm our humanity.
The first travel adventure book I read and loved was Thor Heyerdahl’s Kon-Tiki.
The fellow whose tv review column is syndicated in our local newspaper had an interesting take on the current spate of Bear Gryll’s type shows which do nothing to enlighten about the exotic places he visits or the people who live there. More of the Imperialist Empire meme…which pretty much sums up the attitude BushCo brings to the table.
I do much prefer Michael Palin and Anthony Bourdain among the exotic travelers.
ahem – I’d like to add some foreign language lessons. It doesn’t matter which language – French, Italian, Spanish, Greek, Russian, Mandarin…what matters is that in order to really “get it” you need to be able to speak it and read it and travel to that place. Foreign languages in this country are taught abysmally now – in many schools, the language laboratories are never even used.
When Bush was in MO surveying the damage there, he said the people of MO will get the help they need if it’s warranted. Huh. If it’s warranted? That must have been George Bush’s attitude after Katrina hit! And to think he and John McCrazy were eating cake together, laughing, all the while our fellow Americans were drowning in their attics in droves.
Help is never warranted when George Bush & John McCrazy are in charge. They believe government is not about helping the people, but rather, is there to create big bombs to kill people in other countries. Hell, both are fine with our soldiers dying today in Iraq and won’t bat an eye for the rest of their stinking lives if our soldiers (and the Iraqis!) still are!
Spit.
Mm @ 5 -
It was quite fascinating to see what people used in their daily existence, and some of the subtle influences of other cultures that worked their way into the pieces.
S’truth.
What people use daily probably tells you more about a culture than *anything* else. Wish I could “pretty up” that comment, but have to fall back on ol’ plain English. My favorite cultural object is costume, after spending the better part of many decades studying it….the back-and-forth on codpieces the other day brought back some fun memories of Vreland’s exhibits at the Met. :-)
Thank you for that most-appropriate ‘addition’, Toby. I agree completely and we need look no further than Irak to know the consequence of such hubris. For such it is.
Good Morning everyone…..
Thanks for the sandwich info since I’m in NYC every other week for a couple of months….
Loaded free podcasts of French, Italian & Greek to brush up some words…… for this years adventure….. Weekend in Paris, road trip through France to Milan Italy and then a week in Crete at my favorite place…
Gotta disagree with you on this one, on account of practical, not theoretical, grounds. Languages are not like riding a bicycle. You must keep in practice if you expect to retain them, because you lose vocabulary at an astonishing rate (unless you have a talent for languages, like my late husband who was fluent in 4). I studied both German & French in high school & college, but in the U.S. have no chance to use them, so I can’t communicate in them when I visit countries where they are spoken. In retrospect, I’d have been better off spending my time on some other subject.
Long ago, I discovered James Michener’s novels, which travel both in space and time. The clash of cultures, growth of “civilization” (with an ongoing discussion of what that means, exactly), and so much more.
(The scene in Centennial where, during the “sheep vs cattle” range wars of the late 1800s, the new preacher tries to reach his cattle-ranching parishioners with a sermon extolling the virtues of the good shepherd of the sheep still cracks me up.)
Good morning all. Been playing with the laptop which seems unable to connect to youtube. Is it only me? All of the threads have blanks where videos should be. (on Safari, Firefox, and Newsfire)
Caesar craved silk. . .monks smuggled silkworms out of China in their walking sticks, traveling along the silk road. Or so I read.
It was a long overland trip through land that was and remains bleak, between what is Afghanistan and the more populated east of China.
Both the cradle of civilization in Mesopotamia, Babylon, and the cradle of civilization at Xi’an are at 33 degrees n. latitude.
sounds glorious. Loire valley one of my favorite places.
I think YouTube is having some issues this morning…
Getting the same thing….. youtube must be down right now
Peterr @26…. I loved those books…. they were the type that I really enjoy… full history of the place both in geological and human history…
thank you! I was starting to panic—laptop now out of warranty and tech support would cost $$.
Michener and Gore Vidal are both excellent at presenting the grand sweep of history and time.
But many will not read them because the books are ‘too long’.
I, personally, enjoy books which allow the scope and depth that only words enough may begin to adequately ‘describe’.
I’m reading a more recent travel book, Alistair Cooke’s, American Homefront; 1941-1942. Days after Pearl Harbor, he set off as a reporter for the BBC to report on the effects of the war on Americans in the hinterland. He travelled from DC to Florida, across to San Diego, up to Seattle, and back to the east coast, on retred tires. It’s interesting in revealing the beginnings of some of our current issues. For example, it comes out that many landowners dislike for FDR had to do with the disappearance of cheap labor with the New Deal employment programs and then war industries. I had mostly taken it to be resentment of government programs telling them what to grow and what not to grow. In California, the farm workers were disappearing into the services and into war production factories. Landowners were at a loss to replace them and starting to look for migrant workers from Mexico.
Ahhhhh…finally, some coffee. Got my post of coffee on late this morning, and I’ve been dying for a cuppa. That first sip is always so gloriously tasty, isn’t it?
Something similar happens to the ability to read music, I discovered. I played piano (not well) and sang in high school and college, but then the demands of marriage and children meant I didn’t do more than listen to music for many years. I discovered with astonishment when I began to sing with a choir again several years ago that I had totally forgotten how to read music. To this day I have not regained that skill completely.
I wonder if that ability is related to language in the brain? Seems like I’ve read something about music and the brain.
Mr. Rev. was telling me about a book he’s reading, Day of Empire, How Hyperpowers Rise to Global Dominance—and why they fall. by Amy Chua—the premise is that the societies that are open and tolerant grow and thrive and when they start cutting off others and closing in the downfall begins. Sound familiar?
It is already on the possible route…… driving from Paris to Monte St. Michele then to the Loire to tour Leonardo Da Vinci’s villa…… go through the cro-magnum caves…… and then see Carcassonne
which is the only castle to survive and not fall to a siege by Charlemagne.
ever put chocolate chips in the banana muffins? The. Best.
Gees I missed a back and forth on codpieces? That’s funny.
Depending on the artist and subject matter, paintings are snapshots of daily life from the era they were painted. I know when I was making hats more then I do now, I would go and study the renaissance paintings for influence. I love that era for hats.
Do you make costumes also?
I type this way before I’ve had my coffee, too. *g*
Though I must say, a post on coffee on a Saturday morning might be a fine idea. Fresh Kona in Hawaii is a delightful thing . . .
That’s interesting. My “reading music” life was short. Took accordian for a few years, and had to read scores in my 3 semesters of music history in college. I haven’t tried since (except the occassional hymn in church). I have a few symphony scores. Perhaps I should see if I can follow them with the CD of same.
And, I was a French major in high school and college, and now I can barely read it and cannot speak it at all.
What is interesting to me are the talkingheads on Faux Nonews who think Fredrick Douglas debated Abe Lincoln. They weren’t paying much attention in US History in college because they were too busy being partiers like George.
new from Erdla, epu’ed in previous thread:
at the moment i’m having a little trouble thinking of the world as a playground for americans to explore. i know that sounds harsh – and i know that’s not what anyone here is thinking.
but please think for one moment how Erdla must see us now… and spare a thought for all those who wish us to stay at home.
Wehn I travelled to Europe twice/year on business, I’d always prepare a few sentences to greet taxi drivers or whoever in countries where French or German were spoken. They inevitably rattled back to me in the same language, whereupon I’d have to say either: Parlez vous anglais? or Spechen Sie Deutsch? But at least I tried! *g*
I can follow scores with a CD — it is basically how I practice some of the music my choir sings — but I have forgotten the names of the notes and have no clue about what a minor third is, for example. So I basically see that notes go up and down on a score, but mostly sing by (fortunately decent) ear. I would not be able to pick out the notes on a piano.
I’ve always wanted to visit Hawaii. One of these days…
Ever put banana flavoring in chocolate chip cookies? No a lot, just a touch, it’s a nice for change.
DaVinci’s villa is rather small IIRC. We stayed in a lovely country inn just outside of Amboise. DO NOT MISS CHARTRES on your way out of the city. the most splendid stained glass anywhere and an eccentric Brit who does tours and knows everything about them—just ask him. We also went to Chambord and Chenonceau. Loved it.
Ooops @ 46. That should have been Sprechen Sie Englisch?
I was stationed on Oahu for four years. It took me over six months to get over just walking around and looking at everything and mentally exclaiming, “Wow! I’m really in Hawaii with palm trees and everything!”
I believe you love the smell of fresh flowers? Then you will go crazy from the floral scent in the air over there most days. It is wonderful.
yep. also mint and raspberry—in different batches, of course. Fun stuff. Ought to try orange one of these days.
The next time you make spice cookies add just a hint of cayenne for a bit of zing. Just 1/8 tsp in a batch of cookie dough makes a subtle difference.
selise, I hear you and the pain of what you’re saying. We are mindful of these things even as we look for tiny respites. And yes, I know for those Erdia recounts, there are no respites. But we must do what we can to refill our spiritual/emotional wells so that we can continue to draw on them for the difficult challenges we face as we work for a better tomorrow.
I value travel books for the sense of place they give me…I include such disparate books as Pilgrim at Tinker Creek and Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil in that. For this denizen of the prairies, those are exotic, too.
That sounds lovely. A friend of mine in college was a geology major, and spent her junior year studying in Hawaii. The pictures she brought back were amazing. I think there may be another career in travel writing in my future — only way I’m going to be able to finance my travel jonesing, I’m afraid. *g*
You were more successful than I was. When I was stationed in Okinawa, I tried to teach myself some Japanese. Whenever I tried to say something, Okinawan women would just giggle and Okinawan men would totally ignore me, like I had never said anything. I thought maybe the book I had was a practical joke, causing me to try to speak mongolian to japanese people.
Actually, selise, the transition from the last thread to this is ‘culturally’ shocking and I appreciate that you’ve conjoined the two.
But ‘feel good’ episodes, given that most here are fully engaged in thinking and feeling much of the time, are perhaps, necessary, that we may go ‘on’ with some degree of ‘renewed’ effort.
I don’t know …
My heart and my soul are torn …
But, as I said on the last thread, America has no soul, nor heart nor conscience …
Another Colin Thubron book is Behind the Wall, travels the length of the Great Wall of China. Probably out of print here by now, but your library might have it. Well worth reading.
When I was in France for a week several years ago, my loss of facility in French led to an amusing episode. In a lovely restaurant, there was a lamb dish on the menu, and I recognized the word for lamb, but not the rest of the description. I love lamb, not caring how it would be prepared, so I ordered it and discovered to my consternation that it was lamb BRAINS in some sort of sauce. I ate it and it was delicious, but I doubt that I would have ordered it had I known. I’ve chuckled about it ever since.
RevDeb@49 and Marion@50_ Thanks for the suggestions, I will try them.
Q: Do you know why Japanese write haiku?
A: Because the language is to complicated to write longer poetry.
My Wall St. reports were translated into Japanese & I made one trip there. In group meetings, where my remarks had to be translated, it always took the translator about twice as long to say something as it had taken me. I asked why, and she explained that my observation was accurate and that it was just more cumbersome to express ideas in Japanese.
OTOH, I found it easy to use the Tokyo subway, because all the signs were both in Aramanjo (sp?) as well as Japanese, the former being the Latin letter version of the Japanese symbols.
Words from one of my favorite colleagues and one of my favorite readings:
While stationed in Spain in the mid 60’s learning to speak Spanish was a requirement. In and out of Japan for years gave me a fair ability to speak Japanese. Same with Viet Nam. Now I’m lucky to be able to greet someone in their native tongue. Use it or lose it.
I second this. Malcolm Miller’s tours are not to be missed. Also, on one day a week (Friday?), they pull back the chairs over the labyrinth and one can walk it. That is not to be missed.
LOL.
My only “brain” eating encouter involved slices of sheep brains swimming in oil (a Middle Eastern restaurant in NYC, with a Turk doing the ordering). I just couldn’t put a bite in my mouth.
It’s a bit confusing for some folks. If you are one who needs the change of seasons, the cool weather, the white Christmas, etc, it can be tough after a while. A lot of folks rebelled at the idea of Sant Claus wearing surfing jammies and riding a surf board.
In four years that I was there, the highest temp was 93 and the coolest was 56. At the time, they didn’t have weather forecasters on the local news shows as if the weather varied from the norm, it was a news story.
There are all the problems associated with today’s life on the islands. But the beauty and the population mix and everything allows them all to be put, not so much into perspective, but made manageable
Micro$oft decided they wanted to buy it so the site shut itself down.
I’d like to think that if I spent a long time in a country, I’d learn the language. It’s a matter of practice, not some sort of abstract intellectual knowledge. Of course, now I’m in my 60s and might have lost the ability to even learn another language. But I’m not likely to spend ny extended period in another country anyhow.
I saw that in the last thread. I need to catch up. Tell me about Erdla, please.
Thank you for this poem. I’m not recognizing one line in the second line – lefe – and I want to share this tomorrow with someone.
I thought “lefse” — but that’s the prairie in me
I couldn’t even get across phrases like “right” or “left” to cab drivers. Actually, I think the lack of comprehension had as much to do with resenment of occupation forces as my linquistic abilities.
That brings us back to another example of our leadership’s total lack of understanding of history, in their belief that the Iraqis would be tickled pink to have a lot American troops around for any length of time.
life.
sorry about that—cut and paste and didn’t catch it.
I think that’s supposed to be “life”, maybe?
edit function long gone or I’d go up and fix it.
[magic pixie fix done]
my impression is that the discussion is not welcome here. maybe in the next thread? i will return then and try again.
Yes, it is very likely that in Okinawa resentment of occupation would explain much of the hostility toward your attempt to speak Japanese. I’d do the same (or worse) if I were in their shoes.
lefe => life
Repaired.
the reading @63 is indeed one of my favorites. Dick Gilbert has spent his life doing and leading social action in his ministry. He’s one of our best, now retired. I go to that reading often when I’m torn and use it in sermons on occasion.
can you go in and fix it for me? please?
[Lurking Mod: long since done. Refresh]
oh good morning Christy!
Ahh it would be a dream trip to travel the Silk Road. I’m enamored of the Scythians, so I’d especially love to go through the Steppelands.
OMG, I’m in my 60’s as well but it never occurred to me that I might not be able to learn something, anything. They’d have to lock me away. I’ve always been proud of my ability to learn quickly.
No problem. My brain is in real morning mode, with no puzzle solving function on the brain screen. Thanks for this. The poem and the EB White comment make a direct hit on the dilemma.
This morning, I noticed beginning leaf shadows, not just branch shadows in my living room. That is a real change of lighting and season and, as it is windy, it adds a new dimension to movement of light and shadow within the house.
already done
I have only a vague knowledge of research on language learning ability, but it seems to suggest it’s a childhood thing.
I also suffer from dysnomia, i.e., difficulty remembering names. Thus I suspect that learning a language now might be more difficult than, for example, learning history.
Is YouTube down? There are videos missing from FDL on the front page and I can’t get into YouTube’s site this morning. Anyone know what’s going on?
merci beaucoup
Youtube is having some issues this morning…
we’re all in the same boat, it seems.
I also wonder if it becomes more difficult to learn anything as we age. Obviously not impossible, but perhaps it simply takes longer. Young minds are like sponges, but us “old” folks have all of the stuff of our years crammed in willy-nilly, and it is harder to find space for new stuff. Sorta like a computer hard drive that has bits of info all over, and needs to be defragged. Only I don’t know how you’d defrag your brain.
My childhood was rich in heritage and stories, told and read. It was rather sparse with money, things, and travel. But we went to the library and oh did I travel in my reading. My great fear in my early 20’s was that I would never be able to leave central Kansas in body as much as I did in my mind. My nomadic husband has been the avenue to living all over the States, including the northern coast of Alaska, and overseas.
But a lot of what I want when I move about is to experience what is is to be the “other.” Sometimes that is uncomfortable (as during a time of hostility towards whites among the Inupiat) and sometimes it is disorienting (such as celebrating Halloween in spring and Easter in autumn, as in NZ).
However, one of my international students, wrote this last Tuesday (shared with his permission): The most important thing is that I was,inevitably, able to feel a minority in a different country. It crashed my unconscious ethnocentric point of view completely, and I noticed how much I was arrogant towards other cultures.”
what an image—de-fragging our brains! Love it.
Oh good. I’m not losing my mind. ;-)
Sorry to be so late in replying.
Taught costume history for close to 30 years….very irritating how much knowledge base I’ve lost over a just a few years of retirement with not being immersed in it at least one semester a year. Even then had a limited knowledge as applied to the theatre, other than the only thing that seems to be of real importance is what it looks like from the other side of the footlights. Over the years, spent gobs of personal time and money making slides to use for teaching purposes and so truly appreciate the records left to us by artists over the centuries.
I find many things easier to learn as I get older. One difference is whether I already have a built up structure that I can slot new information into. So, for example, I can easily pick up fields of economics that I didn’t work in.
But there is another example. I was a foreign policy moron prior to 9/11, and it took me less than a year of reading after 9/11 (I was retired) to be pretty much up on Afghanistan, Taliban, al Qaeda, terrorism. It seemed pretty obvious upon first reading. Don’t know why it was so easy to learn that.
OT: CSPAN reports that it’s the 30th anniversay of spam (email variety).
not my doin’–magic pixie fix — I prolly would’ve made it lefse! *g*
My cousin who died last week in Africa, loved to travel and yet was incredibly delighted to find a way to blend travel and service in his project in Zambia. There he was developing a water supply system for farming. I think he died at the height of his joy, pouring his passion and his good humor into work that was good. The world, of course, is poorer for his passing and for our failure to follow his lead.
OT but NYT doing a royal wankfest.
I can live with not learning another language. I was fortunate enough to travel to many parts of the world when I was younger so I no longer have a great desire to travel. I regret never having had the chance to visit China…oh, well. I remember the ex in a green silk dress we bought in Hong Kong, with the high Mandarin collar. She turned heads whenever she wore it. Memories, better than photos any day.
Cause and effect reveresed? I was taught the silk road was closed by the Mongols, and forced the development of ships and exploration.
Henry the navigator was one of the driving forces to explore a passage east. Becuase deep sea navigation was difficult, the portugese as coastal navigators founded colonies all along the coast of africa, in India (Goa), and to China (Macao).
Meditation.
Will Guam decide our path for us today? LOL I’m sorry, but this primary season has gone on for too long and it’s laughable today. The next time I hear Hillary saying she’s been good for the party by staying in the race, because it’s uniting everyone, I’m going to slap my cute little Beagle-mix dog!
[Mod: no violence please]
Garry Trudeau is taking a vacation from Doonsbury until some time in June—so says the Inky. Oh No! What shall we do?
Ha. Very interesting. What I remember was an aside from another subject (can’t remember exactly where I read it, but was related to some European history subject), so you could well be right.
Now if we can get both these egos to read Bob Herbert’s column, maybe there will be something worth watching.
Now, now.
I found this an interesting little dig at Russert embedded way down in that article:
Good Mornng Christy and Firedogs,
The Silk Road ??? now you’re talkin’
like so many other firedogs – childhood of books,curiosity, and wanderlust
so 1978, flew Istanbul to Tashkent, to visit Samarkan, Bukhara, and Khiva
- photo gallery link
every day filled with historic and geographical treasure and yet fondest memories are of the people – their hospitality and diversity from market to market – just look at her
Uzbekistan Gallery
Thanks for the response. When I was researching the history of hats, the connection between the roles in society and hats really intrigued me.
I’m glad you liked the recipe, hope you and everyone reading has a great day.
Good morning all, got a big cup of coffee in my hand…
Again…. Good Morning everyone….. just came in from my walk….. there are two hot air balloons red, green, blue white stripped right over my house….. Miss Dog my beagle buddy is running around the pool….. it is driving her nuts….. she can hear the people talking but can’t see them…..
Waving Hi to Balloon people…
and the finest of days to yourself, kind sir.
aaaahhhhhh youtube back. Now I know what you were writing about. My best friend works for the cellist above and has spent many years working on the Silk Road project. HUGE effort.
ooo cbl, the pictures are wonderful! thanks.
The commodities which have played an important role in the rise and fall of civilizations would make an interesting study. Wheat and bread in the initial founding of city states, silk in the case of the silk trade, spices in the case of world exploration, gold and silver, cocoa beans, tulips, codfish, OIL, etc..
on the wankfest this line got to me:
it wasn’t about being hard on anyone. It was about asking STUPID irrelevant questions rather than asking about things that, you know, matter.
The article just joins in on the inanity of it all.
Hey Christy.
I know you’re a busy woman, but I was wondering if you have made any preparations for WV’s upcoming primary. What a wonderful thing that WV will be involved this time around, huh? I remember asking you a few months ago whether or not you thought WV would be relevant in this primary season. I don’t remember what your response was then, but now it appears Mountianeers will have a stake in it. Good for WV!
enough.
Thank you Christy for the wonderful video and mental travel. Time to do some work. Have a good one everyone.
Thank you for sharing this.
It is such narratives as your’s which convince me that humankind is capable of truly understanding, even as we each must wear our own skins and must come to know that we, and we alone, are responsible for what we allow our bones, muscles and will to do.
The weight of truth, in the world, rests on all our shoulders, equally.
Your journey of discovery is delightful.
My favorite line in the piece, too. G’morning everyone. Late start here. Been juicing apples/spinach/yellow peppers. Booyah!
Christy, a long time ago, you recommended “Three Cups of Tea.” I’m reading it now. Not exactly a travelogue, but certainly a journey to far away places. Excellent read!
You juice a yellow pepper? That will wake you up!
It’s such an amazing read, isn’t it? Enjoy…
Well, it’s blended with the rest of the stuff (spinach, apples). And the recipe calls it an energy booster. Couldn’t hurt, eh?
You rang ?!! *g*
Good Morning !
Travelling, IMO is the very best education one can get …
I recently read “The Sex Lives Of Cannibals” by J. Maarten Troost. It chronicles his experiences on the Pacific Atoll of Tarawa. It was hilarious and informative. I recommend it.
One year ago today, mr. barbara and I were in Scotland and thence to Ireland. An amazing journey. For one thing, the exchange rate (dollars to euros) was 1:1.40. Who knew that’d look good?
I’ve never juiced Yellow Peppers, must give it a try.
My fav is Honeydew Melon & Pineapple … tastes like a Pina Colada, only with more Shakti (energy) …
Have to check it out….. my father was one of the few who survived the battle of Tarawa… the source of his PTSD and injuries he has lived with for approx. 65 years…..
Lookin’ for high energy juices for drinkin’ while virtual traveling in the recliner. Might finally be time for walking in MN. Rain has stopped, wind will not knock a person over unless they’re leaning away from it, and there’s a strange, yellow light in the sky.
Thinking of that, I have always felt that adding the motto above the main entrance to Pattee Library at Penn State: ‘The true University is a Collectiion of Books’, would allow a much more-rounded education that most are fortunate enough to experience.
Lot’s of lucky people ‘here’ and even those of us who’ve not had the pleasure of extensive travel are (made) the better for it.
These ‘aquisitions’ though most-personal, benefit us all.
Profound thanks to all who share experience and insight so graciously.
I think Mr. ReddHedd’s father survived that as well. Small world…
We had a Food Fest on both Late Nite threads … no reason not to continue … *g*
I feel there are three things that transcend all barriers … Music, Love & Food
although not necessarily in that order …
A food fest is always welcome. Especially on a Saturday morning, eh?
OT -Did anyone watch the Jackson Jefferson speeches on CSpan last night?
That makes them brother marines…. wow…
Both my parents are Vets…. whole family of them…. Dad would never talk about the war, lots of stories of being stationed in NZ for 10 months… when I was in my 20’s he gave me a copy of Leon Uris book “Battle Cry” which is his version of the battle he also fought in….. My father was in the second wave…….
“Music, Love & Food”.
The celebration of LIFE.
Perhaps, someday, all people everywhere may some get to join in.
It will make a world of difference.
Perhaps America could become a leader in this endeavor?
;~D
Four years ago, my daughter did a month long study abroad session in Germany. I flew over and joined her when her session was over, and I promised to handle communications in France (the promise based flimsily on elementary school French class,a English-French dictionary and phrase book.) Unfortunately, in my haste to get to the airport, I forgot the books. I thought I could pick one up at the airport in Paris before my flight to Germany. There were none to be found. My daughter was not pleased. We spent the first night in Germany and before heading to France, we stopped at a bookstore. Again, none, but there was a German-French dictionary so she bought that, since after taking German in middle school and high school and traveling their twice, she was reasonably fluent.
So when we got to France, I would tell her what I wanted to say, she would mentally translate that to German and look for the German-French translation. What followed was a comedy of errors. I finally memorized the phrase for “Where is the restroom?” When we stopped for gas, the attendants seemed annoyed if I started in English, so I would smile and ask my one question, and they softened and given my horrible pronunciation, would usually smile and reply in English. (Fortunately, my daughter didn’t decide to get even with me by giving me the wrong phrase when I asked for a translation….I was well aware of the temptation.)
It was quite frustrating, and I was totally responsible and apologized profusely, but my daughter, remembering the mother who was prepared for any and everything on family road trips back home, was not amused when I tried to joke about it. I had to do all the driving (3000 miles in 8 days) because the car rental agency said no drivers under 25, and because the car was a standard transmission, which she had never driven. So she had total control of communication, and I had total control of transportation.
The tension was finally broken when she said, “Love keeps us from killing each other, and necessity keeps us from abandoning each other.”
It was a trip that we can now recount and laugh about, proving I was right when I told her at the time that what was really annoying and frustrating at the time would later make for hilarious stories–which at the time only annoyed her further.
She’s coming for a visit in a few days, and maybe we’ll get started on the mother-daughter Euro trip memoir we’ve been planning.
Mr. ReddHedd’s father drove one of the landing craft. Could be that your dad was on his boat going in. Very small world, indeed.
Boosh will blame Global warming on the Sun and threaten sanctions against Ra … and 29% of Americans will believe him …
ABC juice – Apple, Beets & Carrot (adding a smidge of ginger is recommended)
Since we don’t drink Milk, I blend 1 cup of raw almonds with 3 cups of water, then add Strawberries, Banana and Maple Syrup for really great … why yes, I am Canadian, how did you know? *g*
What a fantastic story — made me laugh. Looking forward to many such trips as The Peanut gets older, so we can laugh about them, too. :)
I didn’t, but here’s a link to it:
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/…..d=205142-1
Particularly if one pays attention to the culture they’re visiting. Hanging out in the Hong Kong Hilton, for example, and doing the organized tour thing is not the way to enjoy the world. Get out of the cab, walk the streets, look in the shop windows, sit in a park and people watch. I realize it’s not as easy today as it was 40 years ago, nor as safe. Which in itself is a sad commentary. If one is lucky enough to find a local who can accompany and translate it turns into an entirely different, and enlightening, experience.
((((( Christy )))))
I made Banana Muffins mid- week and added Chocolate chips to some of them.
Warm Blueberry Muffins with a slightly crispy cap and a pat of Butter with Hot Chocolate after an afternoon of snowball fights … mmm mmmm …
After living in Greece for three years (30 years ago), I continue to believe that every American could benefit from that same experience….. take them out of I am a mighty American meme and see the world through the eyes of another culture…..
Just the simple things of itemized bills, water without sand in it and being a minority…. being able to understand a concept either from them or ours…
Yes, do enjoy those future trips with the Peanut. My daughter is getting married this fall. She’ll be riding back from her grad school graduation with me next weekend for a visit, and likely that will be our last of many, many road trips together. I was determined to road trip to as many states as possible as the kids were growing up, and we made it to over 40, plus quick jaunts over the border to Canada and Mexico along the way. I always kept a trip journal and how I treasure those journals….nothing like a road trip for fun and insanity.
These are some of the things my people are way ahead of America …
Music: Ravi Shankar, Zakir Hussein, L Subramanian …
Food: Tandoori, Bukhara, Basmati …
Love: 1 Billion and counting … *g*
The land of Nirvana has never sent soldiers across its borders to conquer another people … we only send emissaries of peace. I too am a humble meditation/yoga teacher …
What a beautifully written post, Christy.
And, nice thread too. Great way to start this Saturday.
I’m reading A Man In Full by Tom Wolf. Having been raised in Southern California, reading about life in Atlanta is kinda like going to another place.
One of my favorite mementos of my younger daughter is her journal of a trip to Puerto Vallarta when she was in kinder. Great plane and ships she drew.
I love this!
thinking of you as they show the finery at Churchill – carrumba !
ABC — yum! Lest I misrepresent myself, I’m new to the juicing thing, so loving input from wise veterans.
“Group Tours” is the best way not to see a country … we’ve got friends who go on these tours
so they can have Continental buffets prepared for them at every meal … craving staple
American food when visiting exotic cultures is way beyond me …
You should ‘meet’ wobblybits over here, she’s got more recipes than me …
As well as an emissary of peace, Petrocelli …
;~D
I don’t get that, either. I’m much more likely to try and find some dive of a restaurant off the beaten path and to order some weird concoction that I’d never think of making at home. And loving every minute of it.
Why bother going on vacation at all if you are going to pretend you’ve never left home?
Christy
Thank you for the Yo Yo Ma. I listen to him often – so soothing. I have traveled to many places, have been in almost every state, but my traveling days are over so I read. Other places teach us so much.
You would be amazed at the number of people who sing by relative pitch. I do. When I make a mistake more than once I mark the note with an up or down arrow, and that is enough to correct the occasional error.
LOL
When we were staying at a lovely little B&B in Scotland, we were going to be served the requisite mongo Scottish breakfast. We invited our hostess to join us since we were the only guests. She declined, saying, “Oh, I don’t eat that stuff. I’m on Weight Watchers.” L’dOL
Absolutely. Being a stranger in a strange land is exciting and adventerous. My daughter didn’t realize that her mom had gone from the super organized traveler to somewhat of a free spirit, and she found it rather scary. We were truly dependent on the kindness of strangers…and I was the optimist who figured we’d be just fine. (I think it was disconcerting to have the parent telling the quasi-adult child to ‘loosen up and don’t worry’. There was a lot of role reversal during that trip. It was my signal that we should now have an adult relationship and friendship. And I’m happy to say we I achieved what I told the kids as they were growing up would define success for me….if my kids grew up to be people I’d want to be friends with even if they weren’t my kids. And I find them to be fascinating friends who I hope would have chosen me, too.
Heh. That’s what we think when we are camping, in a tent, and an RV the size of a football field rolls in.
Thanks, Kay. I did watch it last night. I was pleased to see Obama get his fire up again – great speech. Hillary said she would work her head off for Obama if he wins. Both praised Edwards . . .
What if everyone else is singing at the wrong pitch? :)
And its generator runs all night and its recreational campfire belches smoke into your tent. We love it anyway, though.
LOL. I’ve never figured that one out. Travel 6 thousand miles and want scrambled eggs and toast for breakfast. I’ve paid a price or two for eating the local fare but that was after I thoroughly enjoyed the meal. Now I can eat anything. Luv me some Basmati. One of the mainstays of my diet. Get cranky if I’ve allowed myself to run out and have to settle for plain brown. My 30 year old rice cooker finally gave up the ghost a couple of years ago. The new ones are ok, but…
Thought ya’ll might like this. Besides the 30th Athens Human Rights Festival our little diner across the street is having a Slow Food Picnic
I know, the locals would often snicker at the fast food chains in their cities, which are chocked full of American tourists … they go to Europe and ask for a Bud Light … *g*
I find the tiny huts where “mom and pop” are the cooks … always the best food …
I recall that fresh french bread they’d sell just north of the Tan An bridge when we’d be stuck waiting for the ARVN to sweep the road in the morning.
The best food we found in Greece was at the truck stops. It was wonderful.
Why, Christy;
That is positively ‘un-American’, but I couldn’t agree more.
I’m told that when ‘Americans’ travel abroad they find that by speaking very LOUDLY, they are always understood.
The vast majority of my friends who have the privilege of extensive travel, usually try not to act in such fashion and usually hope to ‘pass’ as something ‘other’ than products of ‘Murakuh’ …
Good Heavens, we’ve dragged Raven into our Food Fest … who will save us now ?!! *g*
((( Raven )))
Oh yes, those generators. And the folks blasting their music for miles.
I always want to shout Thanks for sharing!, but never do. That’s time to take a hike.
Yep, camping is great. It’s just the other campers that sometimes can make it a less than wonderful experience.
Ever see John Sayle’s “Men With Guns”? The only English spoken in the film are two idiot tourists looking for quesadialla’s and sacrifice sites!
This is in relations to “otherness.”
I come from a great gob of females – sisters and cousins. So when I looked down at my infant son, I thought, “What do you do with this kind?”
So there were several things that I consciously did and hoped it would turn out okay. I put him in a preschool where he was a rare “norm.” The other kids were either physical or developmental handicapped or English as a second language. As a preschooler, he would brag that his friend’s mothers might yell at the other kids, but not at him. Uhm, Peter, that is because your friend’s mothers only speak Chinese.
Then I transferred him into the school that taught English as a second language and was the site for the severely handicapped. He bopped around the playground with kids from 35 countries and pushed his buddy about the handicapped accessible playground.
Then I took him to a different culture when he was 15, and put him in a large high school with a big Maori population. I couldn’t explain the system well to him because I didn’t completely understand it.
I didn’t do this to be cruel, but to keep him looking at things from other perspectives, a trait in short supply in this country. It hasn’t been easy on him, but he said that, after much difficulty and too many tears, he truly came to accept himself for who he is when he was overseas. He didn’t have any cultural assumptions to fall back on and they didn’t understand the American teenager games of interaction.
I told him no tattoos and he said he wants to put the main two islands on his shoulder blades, because NZ gave him the opening to be himself and it is close to his heart and backs him up. I still don’t like tattoos, but that touched my heart.
I looked at the flyers from his prospective college and said “It looks pretty white” (it is in the middle of Iowa). He said, “Mom, I can do diversity. I’ll have to see if I can do white, I guess.”
It may not have worked with another kid, but this is one rare young man. He is good and he is kind and oh, will I miss him when he takes off for his next phase in August.
I made jambalaya for 100 Tuesday.
Holds true in the good old U.S. of A. as well. I remember a little place in Wyoming where we ate a few years ago. They posted the menu on a chalkboard. Special of the day was American sweet toast. We were sitting at the counter, and I mused out loud to mr. b. whether that meant French toast. Heads whipped around and gave me The Eye. That’s when I noticed a little jar behind the counter with wee American flags all around it and a sign encouraging donations to Bush/Cheney. The American sweet toast was mighty fine, though.
Is it the case that Bib Marley is real popular there? (NZ)
Any leftovers you could share? :)
I ate so much stuff that I had no idea what it was. Hungry? Yeah. Eat this. OK.
In the Philippines the local bakery made hot rolls each night around midnight. We’d get a grocery bag full, some butter and party at the radio station.
Haven’t seen it, Raven, but as you recommend or suggest it, I definitely will.
Thanks.
If you want to add some zing to Basmati, toss in a stick or two of Cinnamon (depending on quantity), cloves, a dash of Tumeric and juice from a Lemon … goes well with anything …
I shared a good bit with friends in the hood!
That’s so true “… if my kids grew up to be people I’d want to be friends with even if they weren’t my kids.”
Bravo and congratulations !
It’s a great, sad film about a retired doctor searching for his legacy in a war-torn mythical Central American country. He comes upon devastated villages and asks, “was it soldiers or revolutionaries who did this?” “We don’t know, it was men with guns”. That sports fans, is the real deal.
Wow … how long did that take ?
Mon dieu!
-G
No stranger to that routine. I’m always experimenting with herbs and spices. Some don’t turn out too well but the outdoor critters don’t seem to mind so much.
Submerged in the Arab Culture of Libya for three years teaching in a school with 50 nationalities was the greatest learning experience of my life to the extent that I have never “fit” into American materialistic culture again.
Its an insight I want to pass to my peanuts.
I passed myself as anything but ‘Merican’
OK, off your ass
and on your feet
out of the shade
and into the heat
we got gardening to do before this storm hits.
Speaking of ugly americans, anyone else watching CNN? Piece on the Kentucky Derby. Very expensive hats and $1,000 Mint Juleps.
Oh, brother.
Christy, if you keep recommending books, I will have to sell my soul to the book store. Well, wait. I could do worse, I guess. *g*
C’est la guerre.
2 days counting all the steps of smoking turkey tasso, making the stock, all that good stuff. A labor of love.
On a sober note, do you know that American Corporations coming to Toronto for Conventions and Meetings absolutely forbid any French ingredients on the menu ?
A few years ago, a buddy of mine got “married” in front of his family to a Phillapina (they’d actually gotten married six months earlier).
She made up lumpia the night before and I wound up frying it the morning of the wedding. I had no idea what I was doing other than a basic knowledge of how to fry.
Turned out pretty good though.
Oops, I misstyped. It was MSNBC.
And, sorry for that inappropriate image.
Real Kentuckians are either in the infield or watch at home while having a Derby Party.
No, I didn’t know. And it’s a sad commentary, I guess, that it doesn’t surprise me. You know, that’s part of what’s wrong lately. We’ve lost our capacity for surprise and awe, not to be confused with shock and awe.
No gorton? Too bad.
-G
OOO, googled em, they look good. The Koreans made yakemodoo (sp) but it turned out they were Japanese in origin. Damn, raining already!
The best rendition of Hava Nigala I’ve heard was by a group on Indians who lived in Kuwait and learnt it from
‘Israeli gypsies’ sung around a fire … made my hair stand on end …
It’s a spectacle that has to be lived to be appreciated. My uncle built the sports arena in Louisville in the 50’s and we went every year. You can keep the mint juleps, however. My folks used to have come get me away from the horses. They were the only reason I ever wanted to go. Just to be around the animals.
I can identify with that. I kept my kids in city public schools and they went to a magnet high school that was by design 50% African American 50% white, and other minorities. It was originally an all black school, so the white students were the ‘cultural minority’; the school traditions were those of the original school. When they went to college, they both commented on how very white the schools were…..which felt a bit strange and boring at times. They are pretty comfortable in just about any setting, and the high school had a lot to do with that.
“Just pretend you’re visiting a huge outdoor loony bin,”
H.S. Thompson to R. Steadman, upon their first meeting at Churchill
Let me share with you my first ‘exotic’ food adventure.
I grew up in State College, Pa. a University-town which, back in the day, would become a ghost town during the summer.
In my twelfth year, my friends and I began to frequent an establishment known as ‘Little Tony’s’, an ‘Italian’ food (pizza) place.
I was assured, by my mother and many of the other kid’s moms, that my friends and I would all be kidnapped and forced into the Mafia …
I wonder if that led me to yoga and vegetarian sensibilities? Clearly it was the beginning.
But, we all have to start someplace …
Or we never ‘go’ anywhere.
Growing up in the foothills north of LA, lots of my fiends and neighbors had horses. I got to ride quite a bit. Bare back. The horse, not me.
There are horses near where I live now, and I just crack up when I see horse riders talking on their cell phones. Interest image.
Yep, you can keep the mint juleps. But the hot browns? Nummy…they are a must when you are in the area.
This morning’s brunch is finally cooked and ready to be eaten: omelette with shallots and chopped chives, goat cheese and steamed asparagus. We’re having a nummy one this morning. Decided to put off making the banana muffins until later…
Hah ! We heard that from some of our friends’ parents too but all those Italian mothers wanted to do was stuff us with Gnocchi, Ravioli and the like …
Great line, BTW: “We all have to start someplace or we never ‘go’ anywhere.”
What form of yoga do you practice ?
Bon appetit !
I lived in Tujunga for a couple of years. Moved to Oregon and while working on a real cattle ranch learned to love mountain-bred Appaloosas. I’ll take one of those over an Arabian any day. Love to ride. Cell phone on horseback == obscene.
Kundalini!
Excellent, do you meditate as well ?
Just simple Hatha Yoga, Petrocelli, but I’m open to any ideas you might suggest.
Been ‘practicing’ for about forty years.
I like to think it keeps me young enough to appreciate life and everything else.
I do.
Tujunga? I grew up in Shadow Hills. Mom’s still there, just 10 minutes down Foothill from where I am now.
Neighbors, huh?
Christy. Thank you.
I have been going through my deceased parents’ old papers, sorting, saving, filing and culling.
I came across something I do not know how to file, either physically or psychologically. It brings tears of frustration and loss every time I look at it.
The source: a 1960’s-era Air France travel brochure my parents had saved. I hope you will allow me a rather extensive quote, as follows:
…..
…..
well, you get my point by now.
Dumbya, what HAVE you done?! How DARE you!?!
Just imagine. This man-child started out simply blowing up frogs while his mom giggled at the harmless thrill of it all.
just….. unspeakably….. sickening…..
You do know who you’re talking to, ha!
What was it you wanted to call yourself at the Commune, Petro?
Lecherous Yogi Master? I forget.
I’d say you’re at a really great place, keep doing what you’re doing … many people get bogged down with excess spiritual philosophy and develop tunnel vision, which is the opposite of yoga …
Have you heard “Kundalini Meditation” from Osho ? It is phenomenal music from a ‘group’ renowned for amazing music.
Hey, Adie.
And, thank you for the lovely note yesterday. Will share it with sonny, when he gets up. I want him to see your perspective on the paper work and also see your kudos as well. I want him to know he’s cared about.
ROFL … that’s only in your virtual commune,
debbiedemi … *g*Petrocelli, as I indicated, I grew up in central Pennsylvania, which has abundant and beautiful forests.
Every chance I had, I would seek to go there and experience what my father termed ‘re-creation’, which led me to my own forms of meditation.
I seek the quiet center of empty ‘AWE’ where all I need do is be ‘open’ …
LOL. The congressional candidate I work for (treasurer) calls me Obi Wan. She isn’t the first. Took a lot of ribbing when Star Wars came out.
I learned Kundalini from Sikhs who had settled in Corvallis, OR. I had been practicing Hatha I learned from a friend who had spent some time in India.
No, I haven’t. Got any links?
Yes, of course. :)
Just to let you know, your food comments got me inspired. I’m going to fix up some Basmati for supper later. I put finely chopped onion, bell peppers and tomatoes in it. MMMMM, I think I need to pick up some fish this afternoon.
We tread a similar path, I had some uncomfortable experiences with several “yoga masters” and turned to nature and innate introspection, which is where I got my realizations.
This says it all “… the quiet center of empty ‘AWE’ where all I need do is be ‘open’ …”
Of course, I don’t always, ‘remember’ …
You guys are “awesome”.
Can I love people I’ve never met?
Of course, I have met you.
3 of my favs.
You might find it on Limewire or amazon.com. Some friends gave me a lot of their CDs years ago and the music that’s created in their ashram is incredible. Many great artists have played there.
“Chakra Sounds” is another great one. My fav is “No Dimension”, which is great when you are alone …
… or not … if you get my drift … *g*
((((( demi )))))
Let’s not ruin a perfect relationship by actually meeting … *g*
No one does, and whoever says they always remember, is misremembering … *g*
Okay, here’s the name of my virtual rock band: Demi And The Meditators.
… and their first ever “Extreme Silence” CD & World Tour to debut in the summer of ‘08 …
It’s funny doing Tai Chi in the front yard with grandma squirrel screeching at me for a nut. Neighbors think I’m looney tunes.
You’re not denying that, are you?
(now you’ve got the Looney Tunes song in my head.)
Same here … for years my friends would joke about me ‘teaching meditation’ … now that they’re middle aged and suffering from hypertension, BP, Cholesterol, etc. they can’t wait to learn.
Even the Doctors tell their friends to do yoga/meditation …
Best reason to meditate: Better to keep your mouth shut and let others think you’re nuts,
than open your mouth and remove all doubt ! *g*
When I am in the woods, alone, I like to move quietly.
One day, some years ago, I was walking up what was clearly a game trail, when two young does came rushing down, pell-mell, I should have been bowled over had I not stepped quickly to the side.
As they rushed past me, mere inches away, I queitly said,’Have a good day, girls …’
They waved their tails at me in reply as they sped upon their way …
Am I lucky, or what?
and demi@238
Compared to the modern American mindset I’m probably batshit crazy.
I’ve started doing more Tai Chi than I used to. Getting older and Tai Chi is great for keeping the body in tune. I heard a thing on our Alternative Health show the other day that older women who break their hip often never walk again and men die. That’s a wake up call if I ever heard one. I’m very thankful that I learned yoga and Tai Chi at an earlier age. I don’t have any of the problems you mentioned. Big Pharma makes not one penny from this kid. The tigers, that’s another story.
Ha. Yes.
Petro and SD, may I brag for a moment? David already saw this yesterday…
My son, the 14 year old Asperger’s kid won an award for an IMovie he created on Biofuels. We’re so very proud of him.
When I lived in Imnaha, OR, the summer residence of the Nez Perce, I used to take long walks in the mountains. Coming down a game trail I found myself about 6 feet from a cougar, eye to eye. I figured, well, my time has come. This guy’s gonna have me for lunch. Turned out to be a female, walked past me as if I didn’t exist.
As well you should. Good on him. What’s his name?
How marvelous!
Here’s the closest thing I’ve experienced to that.
I was 22 and camping, hiking up a ravine towards a hot spring. The two vegetarian guys I was with had only brought some, like, dried bananas and some rice and I was wondering What No Chili dogs?
The next morning, they broke out the…LSD. I didn’t know that was what the trip (as it were) was about.
The only time I tried it. We spent the whole day at the hot springs with the little water fall and fish and a mother deer and her doe came and joined us.
Incredible.
edit – should be
James Albert St. John.
One of my fav quotes is, “Even if you win the rat race, you’re still a rat.”
Yoga/meditation is not about giving up material desires, it is about tapping your full potential and not become enslaved by desires.
The kind I teach is about living a fully realized life, where you learn, love and create as much as you can in every moment.
Being active, esp. with Tai Chi, Yoga, is a great way to maintain high physical and mental conditioning.
Bravo !
Your love is the most potent tool to offer your child, demi … all of you are to be congratulated. Please tell Apple about this, they’d love to hear about it.
Hah! The realization that one could become ‘catfood’ or in my case, a ’snack’ for a bear, does wonders for perspective.
And, of course, one can’t fault the animals …
Thank you.
I will let Apple know.
AND…
Okay, that’s it. I’m going to go find a Yoga Class.
Um … was the day at the Hot Springs real or ‘imagined’ ? *g*
Drugs inhibit true realization, they do not enhance it and I have yet to lose that debate with ‘informed sources’ …
It happens, and I am usually guilty with the rest :). When it does, the conductor or director goes nuts, and usually we get to sing the correct notes one at a time, with the piano banging them out. Then 2 at a time, and then 3, and it is really annoying. That explains why it doesn’t happen as often as it could.
I’m looking for an agent in California and when I find one, I will personally teach you and the wunderkind meditation and breathing exercises …
does wonders for perspective.
My close up on that special camping trip gave me a new perspective of the fish in the stream.
When I got home I took better care of the fish in my big old tank.
Meditation can bring out more self awareness than any psychoactive drug. I believe (a word I rarely use) that animals can sense another being free of internal turmoil.
Animals & kids who are not contaminated with limited beliefs.
Everywhere I go, kids run up to me and play … even those who speak different languages and the parents get flustered until I tell them what I do …
That truth notwithstanding…I was very young and never tried it again.
What do you have to say about the Southwestern indians and mushrooms and all of that?
Yes, ‘believe’ and ‘belief’ should be used with extreme care and caution.
Amazing how some of us come to understand that …
Yes, children and animals.
Aren’t we lucky?
They’re a truly spiritual people and I know how to convert the ‘negative energy’ in alcohol into positive energy but I still don’t recommend it as a path to realization …
I’ve experienced the same thing, particularly with animals.
I’ve learnt more from being around kids than “wise men”
… they are Gods in human form, until they get ‘educated’ …
If you ever see a dog who’s lived near an ashram or holy place … they have a different manner about them …
Thanks for a great morning session guys, but, there are toilets to clean, weeds to pull and all of that. :)
Later, dear friends.
When meeting or observing those souls who truly understand (I hope someday to gain a bit of that) I have noticed that their eyes smile onto the world what their hearts sing in celebration of ‘being’ …
No matter what we may think, ‘time’ is ALL we, any of us, ever have to ’spend’ …
Have a great weekend y’all !
Namaste
I actually no longer actively seek the company of adult humans. To me they’re so obsessed with things of no importance. I have a small aquarium at work and when small children come in they’re drawn to it. I’ve a small space but the atmosphere is so different from the rest of the place. I have a Betta and other small fish and when people ask how I can have such an arrangement I tell them it’s a Buddhist aquarium.
Reminds me of a childhood story.
My father bought two fish. One was a deep hue of purple and the other orange. Because I was young and enjoyed comics the fishs were named Batman and Robin. I was surprised to find that Batman, a Betta, killed Robin, a Goldfish. Even more surprising than that. I found Batman dead, a few days later, from freezing in the glass bowl on a particullary cold night of the winter.
Who would’a guessed that the Lincoln-Douglas Debates were between the first Black to run for President and the Great Emancipator? *
‘Course they might have thought that it was Stephan Douglass, and they were discussing whether “Dixie” was a seditious tune.
BTW There was a bit of a debate between Lincoln and Frederick Douglas…but it was behind the scenes in letters and very definitely related to the formers relunctance to end slavery and use emancipated blacks as soldiers in the Union Army.