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So, Christy!

I read this article and laughed all the way through it. It was such a transparent post hoc rationalization shoe-horn attempt to make every self-serving McCain flip-flop on an issue fit the “gosh, I sure am standing on principle” mold. And it was sadly lacking.

Edmund Burke, my ass…

Has McCain fillibustered even One pork barrel spending bill in the past 7 years?

You know he is in trouble when they compare him to Burke. National Review
did that with Limbaugh some years back to give him the blessing of the
already marginal. The Atlantic isn’t what it used to be.

Whew, I’ve spent all morning trying to get here.. my tubes very wonky earlier. I finally got thru Kos’s blogroll..

Ah Christy! You never disappoint.

Don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

Our hyper fella, when pre-school-ish, used to laugh and cry at the same time on occasion when he got too excited.

So I’ll choose door #3.

Christy, you forgot you snark tag. What? This isn’t snark?

You think it’s bad now, just wait. As they get closer to the election and even more desperate, they’ll pull out all the stops.

Headline: “Is McCain the Second Coming of Jesus? If not, how do you explain Obama being Satan?”

Boxturtle (I got a future writing rightwing puff jobs, you think?)

great post Christy….

OT…methinks this will not be a good day for Hillary’s campaign…take a lookey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....838/507664

Crash: Edmund Burke ?
Annie: Edmund Burke!
Crash: Edmund Burke?!
Annie: Edmund Burke!
Crash: What do you mean Edmund Burke?
Annie: I mean Edmund Burke!

I’m disgusted with McBush because of his stand on the war, and mostly because he’s flip-flopped on the very issues he had stood up for in the past. Not only has he turned tail and run on torture, but also failed to back legislation that would help veterans. But mostly, I’m disgusted because he is my own representative in Congress, so it makes me feel powerless and unspoken for, particularly because my House Rep is also a Rethug, and my only other Senator is Kyl.

That’s got to be a mock up. No way those two are so stupid to say things like that with a camera right in their face.

Boxturtle (If it ain’t, somebody pass the popcorn!)

man that photo of McGiggolo,looks like Lotts wife after she looked back….spine shivers

We need to pressure the corporate media (no longer referred to as mainstream) to reveal him for who he is: a right wing idealogue, like his mentor, shrub.

I expect someone won’t be an adviser to Clinton’s campaign much longer. But in respect to Hillary’s campaign today????

Just stupid poo-flinging if you ask me.

Wow, who knew that Carville’s look has actually improved since then (blech)

I see no chance that the media will do this. It’s up to us. And youtube.

McCain voted against Bush’s big tax cuts, but now says he supports extending them rather than risking damage to the economy. Flip-flop? Not if you believe, as Burkeans often do, that sudden and large policy changes deserve skepticism, but that when a policy becomes well established and woven into everyday life, as the tax cuts have, continuity should get the benefit of the doubt.

You could use this same logic to defend Jim Crow laws. After all, you wouldn’t want to move too fast on something like that. Continuity of injustice should not be overturned on a whim.

As for “Burkean”, I think this is just a made up term that means that anything that John McCain does is “Burkean” and anything that is “Burkean” is OK. In other words, Burkean is the new IOKIYAR.

“transparent post hoc shoe-horn attempt to make every self-serving [StVain] flip flop on an issue fit the ‘gosh, I sure am standing on principle’ mold.”

Gee hon. Don’t hold back. Just say what ya’ mean. hee hee

Let me join you on that bench, Ann. It is so frustrating.

Hugh are you going to add Mary Gade, regional administrator of U.S. EPA to your list?

707

He’s so Mavericky

well those are his stylings

Morning Christy, I tried but I couldn’t stop laughing even though you said to.

So the Keating 5, that was just a little misunderstanding?

Internal poll here:

Is the candydate 1. in de-nial, or 2. see-nile?

And no fair accusing me of picking on your Gramma Bunchkins.

She’s not running for Prez. of this once great country, this fella IS, with all the, um, forces at his command.

Anyone ever ask him in public how many c***s he’s got on his staff? *shudder*

kinda like garlicky only not so good

*Gasp!*

McCain didn’t flip-flop. He sold out.

As compliant as the media may be, it’s not working. He sold out on tax cuts. He sold out on torture - that’s the big one, cause he was tortured. Go figure. And he sold out on Iraq. I haven’t heard him talking about how we’re winning in Iraq lately. He’s a total sell out. Or, as people like to say, he drank the kool aid.

Keating 5? Gee, he’ll have to get back to you on that. No memory of anything remotely like that. Was it a rock band? He prefers c*ntry.

McCain didn’t flip-flop. He sold out.

he sold out our future for his gain today.

Hi Christy!

It’s going to be a high energy Spring weekend!

Real Wild Child - Iggy Pop

Those pork ribs need more lipstick sauce?

Not if you believe, as Burkeans often do, that sudden and large policy changes deserve skepticism, but that when a policy becomes well established and woven into everyday life, as the tax cuts have, continuity should get the benefit of the doubt.

Really? So if Burkeans are in favor of retaining Bush’s several-years-old tax cuts for “continuity” because they’re “well established”, then they must be rabidly in favor of decades-old New Deal programs, labor protections, business regulations, and more, right?

I smell bullshit!

you’re kidding, right?

i vote he oughta put that stoopid cap back on.

Bush did that. He just “drank the kool aid”.

Has anyone proposed raising the capital gains tax 5% and lowing the 33% income tax rate 5%? Closing the gap, just a little.

Funny, you should mention “Burkean” :)

I loved the whole time he was spewing, he was also linking lots….

(This made me roflmao and there’s more!!)

This “Blog Watch” entry examines Firedoglake, the hard-left attack platform of Jane Hamsher and her venomous anti-Bush cadres.
(my bold)

http://burkeanreflections.blog.....glake.html

On YOUR Dime: Congressmen Lease Luxury Cars
Little-Known But Exploited Loophole Allows Politicians To Drive, Maintain Expensive Cars, SUVs On Taxpayer Money
Rep. Charles Rangel: ‘My Constituents Appreciate It’
Reporting
Pablo Guzman NEW YORK (CBS) ― You may not realize it, but members of the House of Representatives can lease a car and have it paid for by you — the taxpayer. And it’s not just the car, but gas, registration, insurance … the works.
hahahahahahaha,were so stoopit

Hugh are you going to add Mary Gade, regional administrator of U.S. EPA to your list?

I had not heard this before. For some reason I can’t pull up the Tribune story on it although I did get the AP one. I would like to know who the two top EPA officials were who demanded her resignation.

No, i’m not. With the strands of hair, he looked like the Cryptkeeper

“venomous anti-Bush cadres”

You mean 72% of the population?

Wow! Those chaps are so … obviously … bright, they must be among the … best.

D’uh, Indiana, is you listenin’?

But, that was ‘then’ and this is so ‘now’ …

WHOA!!!

Where did this come from? There’s three big-time Hillary supporters in this clip. What a despicable vibe, these guys have been playing nasty from the get-go.

Ain’t YouTube grand? LOL

In our boring lives, encumbered with responsibilities and trivia,
taking out the recycling and paying the electric bill,
it is not often that we can really make a difference,
doing something to truly make the world a better place.
But, this week, I had the rare opportunity to do so.

I let my subscription to The Atlantic lapse.

Goodbye, Andrew and Ross and Megan and Jeffrey. And Jonathan.

Now for something completely different…While I couldn’t get in the lake this morning I was web-surfing..

‘Longshoremen should finish unloading 6,700 tons of sand contaminated with depleted uranium and lead Tuesday afternoon, said Chad Hyslop, spokesman for the disposal company American Ecology.

The BBC Alabama arrived at the port Saturday afternoon with the 306 containers carrying the contaminated sand from Camp Doha, a U.S. Army base in Kuwait. The sand was packaged in bags designed to transport hazardous waste.’
http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=6414

Homeland Task Force To Be Ready By Fall

Published on Monday, April 28, 2008.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=6398

FEMA announced recently that they will be conducting a national disaster exercise called National Level Exercise 2-08 (NLE 2-08) from May 1st through May 8th. The purpose of this exercise is to prepare and respond to multiple incidents including natural disasters and terrorist incidents.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=6394

‘The Bank of England has imposed a permanent news blackout on its £50bn-plus plan to ease the credit crunch.’
http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=6415

Can we get that repealed? Where do they need to drive? When they are home, they can drive their own damn car. In D.C. public transportation is always an option or peddle power

Whoosh! This is not going to go down well with the w-nuts i’m familiar with, by proxy thru their relatives. heh. u.g.l.y. and no place to hide.

hooray for the toobz & utoob, with FDL at the ready with the picnic basket all sorted and packed. May need xtra napkins tho. & some-a dose babywipes.

yes HILL has 35 years of good experience

we are exploited everywhere

If you do add it to the List, I would be very honored. Many, many people are proud of your service to our country. Thank You!

The same people who say this crap are equally dismissive of anything that smells of liberalism; the liberal cabal that’s responsible for, among other things, the Global Warming panic and losing in Iraq. I can’t tell if they really believe the crap they spew, or if they’ve just stopped thinking.

whoot! be wery afraid, wingers. *Waves walking stick in the air **g**

the hard-left attack platform of Jane Hamsher and her venomous anti-Bush cadres.

Aw, man! I really liked being a rabid lamb. Venomous cadre? Is that like Zombies?

There is this headline from the NYT: U.S. Sheds Fewer Jobs Than Expected

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05.....ref=slogin

It tries to spin a 20,000 job loss in April as a good thing since analysts were expecting a drop of 85,000. The problem is, of course, is that these initial numbers aren’t real but based on projections. We won’t have a good idea on what happened in April until next month.

Big grin :) (can’t do the emoticon thingy)

Personally, sadly, I’ve about had it with the ‘best and brightest …’

Been around too long, I guess.

Here. Have a fresh cookie, warm from the oven. Milk with that?

And here is the corollary to IOKIYAR:

It’s OK If You Are John McCain (IOKIYAJM)

give them a bike (most of them need the exercise anyway) with a tire pump. For those that can’t bike due to physical limitations, give them the IRS mileage rate.

me too…….new ideas please…McAncient

Probably already been discussed here, but still this is an interesting collection of folks who have had their paperwork fingered….

‘MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA – In two states where US attorneys are already under fire for serious allegations of political prosecutions, seven people associated with three federal cases have experienced 10 suspicious incidents including break-ins and arson.’
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/....._0430.html

hahahahahahahahahahaha
all the kings men

Someone should start a website that tells us what issues/policies that John McCain is in favor of that day. So the rib eaters can keep their spin up to date.

It would be a lot of work to keep that up to date.

from americablog

This was during the first Clinton campaign for the White House, and this guy is now a Hillary campaign adviser. Mickey Cantor, who was the chairman of Clinton-Gore ‘92, a secretary of commerce under Bill Clinton, and a friend of the Clintons since the 1970s, calls Indiana voters “worthless white n–gers” in front of George Stephanopoulos and James Carville, neither of whom says anything about it (nice, George, can’t wait to see the questions at your campaign event, I’m sorry, your “townhall meeting” with Hillary in Indiana on Sunday). He also calls Indiana voters a “worthless piece of shit.” Oh, and before anyone says this was a long time ago, it was only a few years before Obama went to Ayers’ home - same decade - so it’s just as relevant. Also, imagine had an Obama adviser made these comments? It would be a media firestorm. This is also relevant since Hillary continues to associate with this man for 13 years following his offensive remarks. What’s that say about her character? (Personally, I’d have left that church a long time ago.) Not to mention, I’m not sure what the statute of limitations in politics is for using the N-word. The Indiana primary is Tuesday.

It’s creating jobs and THAT is good for the economy *g*

I think most of the 72% are anti-Bush rabble. You have to be somewhat organized to be “cadres.” (Nice bit of red-baiting with that term, though; I’m sure the wingnuts appreciated it.)

I think that whole Ayers thing is past dumb but since folks are stuck on stupid, she should be asked about this as well. i’ll give her the benefit of the doubt that she had no prior knowledge of his remarks but she could at least denounce and reject.

it is fair game,cause she also said about voters SCREW EM

CNN.com reporting that the House Judiciary Committee is threatening to subpoena Rove. Rove’s attorney says Rove will “discuss” the case, but not under oath and with no transcription of the discusion.

Rove offered to do that a long time ago, didn’t he?

yeah none of that pesky stuff that could be later used as evidence to show that he was lying

Oh, my. I anticipate a Very Strongly Worded Letter.

So why was Edmund Burke the biggest cut-and-run advocate in parliament? Also, I wonder if Rauch knows McCain’s position on same sex marriage, of which Rauch is a strong proponent.

I wish the conservatives would get together and decide who gets to be the new Burke, the new Reagan, the new Goldwater, the new Metternich, the new Torquemada, the new Helms, the new Atilla, etc., for all the great conservative roles in history.

This is in reference direclty to the Siegelman case. I believe this was not part of the previous attempts to subpoena him.

Hamsher also gained notoriety for her vile slurs against National Review’s Kate O’Beirne, whom she called “a dangerous bitch,” a “foaming fascist,” and announced that the “bitch is dead meat.”

James O’Beirne, the husband of the bitch is also a neo-con fascist. He was responsible for the Destruction Reconstruction of Irak.

Yeah. I’n not holding my breath.

G’mornin’ ‘pups. Whu’sup?

Suggest you start your own list, and not rely on the media or punditidiocy.

They’re out there, and they appreciate us as much as we appreciate them. Feingold, Leahy, Kennedy, Conyers, Byrd, Waxman, Sherrod Brown, …

Send ‘em a “thanks” once in awhile, if it seems appropriate to you. To be on the safe side, keep it issue specific. Might as well cover yer own backside while you’re patting them on the shoulder. These are wickedly difficult times to dare to be strong and honest for real, and not just pretend for the cameras.

McCain as Edmond Burke? Bobo Brooks is on that same fantasy ride. The RNC, in lieu of the Pentagon this time, must be handing out season tickets to the kept media. The comparison is laughable, but so are all the others, like Bush as Truman or Churchill. Those pairings have historians guffawing in the usually silent faculty reading room.

The spinmeisters that fabricate those analogies portray Americans as knowing as little about their own history as they do about particle physics. They paint themselves as cynical, false, shameless abusers of the people whose power their clients desperately crave.

Truth is, there aren’t many analogies for McCain. He’s a Navy legacy with a far more famous father and grandfather, a so-so fighter jock who miraculously survived five years at the infamous Hanoi “Hilton” POW camp. He’s an average pol with more ambition than brains, more cynicism than integrity, whose idea of “financial planning” is marrying the right trophy wife the second or third time around. He has an effective PR team that repeatedly reinvents him to cover his scandals. If you really need an analogy for him, just scan the list of Congressional Republicans. Dime a dozen. Not the unique leadership skills for a troubling time that we need.

From earlier today

Large 7.0 Earthquake Hits Aleutian Chain, Alaska - No Tsunami Warning Issued

The four current earthquake swarm areas as mapped below are getting more active.
Folks on the W coast be safe.
Actually, everyone be safe…:)
http://www.earthchangesmedia.c....._zone1.jpg

Really???

Way. To. Go. (((((JANE!)))))

Ding.

But very, very po-lite.

The Dems have ’standards’, you know?

Jonathon Rauch seems to fervently believe this: You guys!

operative word two words in this sentence;

seems to because there is not a chance on the planet he really believes it

wow did ya know the secret service was on this huys butt?

Clive businessman Marty Parrish was escorted from Sen. John McCain’s town hall meeting by Des Moines police and members of the Secret Service after asking McCain if he had called his wife Cindy an expletive in 1992.

Parrish, an ordained Baptist minister who holds a master’s degree in political science, was questioned by Secret Service agents before being released. He was not charged in the incident. Parrish asked whether McCain called his wife Cindy an expletive related to the female anatomy, as has been alleged in the book “The Real McCain,” written by Dem strategist Cliff Schecter.

McCain’s response got him a round of applause from the crowd: “There’s people here who don’t respect that kind of language, so I’ll move on to the next questioner in the back.”

In an interview with IowaPolitics.com, Parrish said his intentions were simple in posing the question to McCain. The former Joe Biden campaign worker stressed he is very concerned about the Republican presidential nominee’s temperament.

“We have a man whose temper can get the best of him,” Parrish said. “What I am worried about is his temper. Our country is in a serious crisis. This election is the most significant one since 1860. It appears America is asleep — so I stood up and asked the question.”

McSame said he hates gooks, THIS YEAR!

Why can’t THAT youtube show up for cripes sake?

I agree with you that this is just as relevant as the Ayers crap - not very!

Sorry, more OT on the earthquake thingy…

‘MOGUL, Nev. - An unusually intense swarm of earthquakes — more than 1,000 over the past two months — has struck directly beneath a small suburb of Reno, leaving residents shaken and scientists puzzling over the cause.

More than 20 quakes of magnitude 2 or higher have hit on some days, and the intensity and frequency of the quakes has been increasing over time rather than following the normal pattern of tailing off.’

http://www.azcentral.com/news/.....30-ON.html

On McBu’ush:

John McCain Adores the War and Ignores the Warriors

Everyone knows McCain is a former prisoner of war, but did you know he refuses to support a bipartisan effort to modernize the GI Bill and has voted against nearly every effort to increase funding for healthcare and disability benefits for wounded soldiers? Did you know that Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA) gave him a D+ when they scored his voting record (whereas Obama got a B+ and Clinton an A-). Do you know that he voted with the interests of Disabled American Veterans (DAV) only 20 percent of the time?…

…Reporters habitually rehashed his story of heroism four decades ago without looking at his voting record in the present. But now that he’s the presumptive Republican nominee for president, a coalition of veterans groups, liberal activists, and Democratic PACs have decided to target McCain over his failure to support S.22, a bipartisan effort to improve the GI Bill.

The bill, by Sens. Jim Webb, D-Va., and Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., would bring back WWII-era measures that provided vets with full college tuition along with room and board. Right now, those vets who try to use the GI Bill to attend school are eligible to receive only $1,100 a month for a maximum of three years. It is an amount that doesn’t come close to covering the cost of a modern college education.

So far 57 senators have signed on as co-sponsors. But the bill remains three votes short of the supermajority necessary to kill a filibuster.

“It’s time for Sen. McCain to stand up for veterans and be a leader,” the chairman of VoteVets, Iraq war veteran Jon Soltz, said in a statement. “The success or failure of this bill largely rests on his shoulders. He is the de facto leader of the Republican Party. If he signs onto the bill, it will pass and become law. If he doesn’t support it, he needs to explain why he doesn’t.”…

Why? Well, it’s obviously Jeremiah Luther Wright’s fault.

I saw a video clip that dosido (if I remember, correctly) put up, about Waxman meeting some voters …

Rather, shall we say, ‘disappointing’ …

But, (sigh) I know, these are the BEST we’ve got.

Lesser weevils are better than evil weevils or something like that …

Oh, yeah, it was a fine time. Ol’ 60 Grit hasn’t been as prominent lately, I guess, so we haven’t been mocking her as much.

yea,to me it shows how really AMORAL they are,thats all

He gets my standing ovation, but frankly I’m surprised he was only briefly detained. I wouldn’t have been shocked if he had been taken to jail, questioned, and then released!

No need to apologize. We appreciate the heads-up. Thanks!

Same thing can happen on this blog too.

for what?

hahahhhahaahahahahahha
teh true

speak for yourself, heh *blush*

I agree, but it seems to me that it shows how immoral the three jerks in the video are (really no surprise there), and really reflects very little on the current candidate.

(even so - dude has got to be GONE from the campaign TODAY)

CHS:

Correct me if I’m mixing up this Jonathan Rauch with someone else, but I’m pretty sure it’s this one.

For someone who supposedly believes this:

McCain voted against Bush’s big tax cuts, but now says he supports extending them rather than risking damage to the economy. Flip-flop? Not if you believe, as Burkeans often do, that sudden and large policy changes deserve skepticism, but that when a policy becomes well established and woven into everyday life, as the tax cuts have, continuity should get the benefit of the doubt.

…it’s discordant to see that he is an advocate of gay rights and marriage rights:

A critic of U.S. government public policy in general, and specifically in its relation to homosexuals, Rauch has pursued gay-related topics as an openly gay[2] author since 1991 when he spoke out against hate-crime laws in The New Republic, and is an avid proponent of same-sex marriage.

The key to understanding this contradiction? Rauch supported invading Iraq and he’ll adapt the requisite principles to support whoever continues that war.

As with most things, this is about the war.

asking the question, in public, in front of cameras

This is an interesting piece… McCain I believe is having some difficulties re; a recent fund-raiser by some of these folks….

‘Much has been written about whether a worldwide plan exists to control events and steer them in the direction profitable to an elite of the rich and powerful. Is this a “conspiracy theory”? While it is difficult to be specific about who exactly may be behind such a conspiracy, if it exists, it is at least clear that the privately- managed system of global financial capitalism gives ample opportunity for the world’s richest people to combine for their mutual benefit.’
http://www.rense.com/general81/extr.htm

Oh, I see, you mean taken to jail for what…

Embarrassing a Republican of course.

Pretty sure it’s the same guy. And you’ll thoroughly enjoy (not!) this charming column on the surge…pretty much sums things up nicely on that score, doesn’t it?

Wow, so if you use the c-word or better yet act like a journalist, you get frisked and questioned by the secret service? The other option is to toss Mccain a softball, spin whatever fucked up answer he comes up with and then eat some Costco ribs.

“Look, my good friends…”

I certainly don’t claim any of them are perfect. They get tired, stressed, pressured, threatened and, just like real people, have their less stellar moments. That’s why I suggested being issue-specific. I wouldn’t give ANYONE in office a free ride to sainthood, ever, no matter who.

I’m mostly referring to “steering” them in the direction you’d like. Who says there can’t be unpaid lobbyists for good causes? Go for it. *g*