So,Peterr!

Someone finally asks Hitler Youth Barbie
about the “military analysts” scandal.
Some banter from the Ministry of Truth:

Q — over the last six years the Pentagon conducted a secret operation designed to sell the war in Iraq and the war on terror to the American people. It recruited more than 75 ex-military officers, many with financial ties to the defense industry, provided them with talking points and an extraordinary degree of access not available to ordinary members of the press, including meetings with the Secretary of Defense, and it got them higher supposedly independent military analysts by every U.S. television network. One of its participants described it –

MS. PERINO: Do you have a question?

Q One of its participants described the program as “psyops on steroids” and others said that if they –

MS. PERINO: Is this your opinion?

Q I’m describing the program.

MS. PERINO: What’s your question?

[EPU’s as I typed]

You are on it like a duck on a june bug Peeterr!

Peterr, what happened to my previous comment?

Dana’s in a tough spot. If this were a cartoon, she’d be the person standing next to this chart with the pointer, trying to explain to the board of directors why this is good news for the Republicans.

If your home price graph looked like this…

You mean “So, Peter!” at #1, or another one?

“But if you’re John McCain and this was a chart of President Bush’s approval ratings during his second term, you say “Elect me, and I’ll give you four more years of the same!” ~ Peterr

Hysterical comment, Peterr, and so true! Thanks. Great post.

Keep on embracing Bush and put Jeb on the ticket!

I must’ve been in Twilight Zone for a minute. I went and clicked through an ad, and suddenly my post was gone! Now it’s back, so I’ll just comment that I hope the Dem wins, but it’s still a struggle every day, even though people say they have a preference for a Dem in the WH. If they do, why is it so close between McCain and either Dem? He really does offer a third Bushie term. Scares me!

Aargh, Kagan is saying that half the armaments that are killing our troops in Iraq is supplied by the Iranians…! WTF? That is utter bovine excrement!!!

No, I think St. John is going to get more religion and go for Huckabee or Brownback. If he can’t convince the TheoCons he’s one of them, he’s at least got to convince them that he likes them — he really likes them.

yet according to jane’s post downstairs the democrats are about to cave and allow criminals a free pass

I cannot put into words how angry that makes me

That’s true. McCain lacks the pretend-to-be-a-Christian skills that George W. Bush has mastered.

and we have a new “surge”, we are “surging” to Iran with battleships

Chaney will have his war, and since our armed forces are stretched way to thin and our assets are depleted the only way we can prevail is with nuclear weaponry

and Chaney is having a bigger orgasm then when he approved torturing our captives

Senate is now introducing an amendment confirming McCain is a natural born citizen. (this is not snark) Tune into FOX soon, I sense a breaking story claiming all Democrats are aliens.

Broder bump also known as a deadcat bounce.

I’d just like to say … the Sonics’ attendance never looked like that. It did plummet this year after the owners deliberately blew up the team, trading away their two established stars and going with a rookie-dominated squad.

But they looked like All-Pros compared to Team McBush.

Just watching Hardball and as usual you just wish you could talk back to the TV. Tweety asks why is there such a problem with Iran having influence over their neighbor? The answer given by the guest is that it’s because they are stirring up trouble by arming both sides of the Shia and even some Sunnis to continue a low grade blah, blah, blah…I just wanted to shout that they are not the only ones guilty of arming both sides of a civil war; we’ve done that, too! Furthermore, if we hadn’t been so anxious to rid the world of Saddam, he’d still be playing the roll of buffer keeping Iran from having influence with the other Arab states. We created a mess we don’t even seem to understand!

I don’t think John McCane (hi bedbug) can read a graph. Maybe a simple pie chart…

“Hitler Youth Barbie”

Finally, the right take on Perino.

Dana’s in a tough spot. If this were a cartoon, she’d be the person standing next to this chart with the pointer, trying to explain to the board of directors why this is good news for the Republicans.

Isn’t that a graph of the trajectory of a pig missile?

Vote suppression robo-calls in NC:

Former Pres. Clinton chief of staff Podesta is listed on the Board of Directors of sponsoring group.

Aargh, Kagan is saying that half the armaments that are killing our troops in Iraq is supplied by the Iranians…! WTF? That is utter bovine excrement!!!

Kagan just turned 38. He still has time to volunteer for the Army. Go for it, dude.

Pretty amusing to think that McCain will have to prove he is eligible to be President since he was born in Panama. It’d be nice to see him have to waste some news cycles on this. If it was a Democratic candidate, there would be mass hysteria on the right by now.

He’s probably waiting to join the Bush twins brigade.

And Perino can lead ;)

LOL!

Carriers

With the decommissioning of the last Iowas, no battleships remain in service (including in reserve) with any navy worldwide. A number are preserved as museum ships, either afloat or in dry-dock. The U.S. has a large number of battleships on display: USS Massachusetts, North Carolina, Alabama, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Missouri, and Texas. Missouri and New Jersey are now museums at Pearl Harbor and Camden, New Jersey, respectively. Wisconsin is a museum (at Norfolk, Virginia), and was recently removed from the Naval Vessel Register. However, pending donation, the public can still only tour the deck, since the rest of the ship is closed off for dehumidification. The only other true battleship on display is the Japanese pre-Dreadnought Mikasa.

Here’s a graphic that’s not OT
FAIL!

Did Harry Reid introduce it?

I do not know the specifics but here and some other sites, if you click through an ad or link or such and then back arrow to return, you return to the number of comments that were here when you first entered the thread. A hard refresh, or in your case, adding another comment, will bring back all the missing.

I think so.. Only caught the audio while multi-tasking.

Hil hasn’t pumped “in a long time”. KO

I look at that chart now, and can hear my old math teacher’s voice: “When will that line cross the X-axis (i.e., hit zero)?

so here is a question all democrats need to address before the election;

with this kind of vile hatred for the republican party, how on earth is it possible for mkkkain to show a close race, even winning in some polls?

how is that possible?

the answer is that it’s not possible, mkkkain cannot possibly win a fair election

yet the “polls” show otherwise

why?

I believe they are already gaming the contest, they’ve gamed the polls and now if mkkkain wins it will actually look legit

it does not make sense there is a poll anyhwere but texas that shows mkkkain ahead of either democrat

salut, loo hoo!

I forget who posted this excellant link with the neo cons quotes before the war but all democrats need a copy of the link and all debates should use the quotes, a few examples;

CAKEWALK!

“I believe demolishing Hussein’s military power and liberating Iraq would be a cakewalk.”
- Kenneth Adelman, member of the Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board, 2/13/02

“Support for Saddam, including within his military organization, will collapse after the first whiff of gunpowder.”
- Richard Perle, Chairman of the Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board, 7/11/02

“Desert Storm II would be in a walk in the park… The case for ‘regime change’ boils down to the huge benefits and modest costs of liberating Iraq.”
- Kenneth Adelman, member of the Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board, 8/29/02

“Having defeated and then occupied Iraq, democratizing the country should not be too tall an order for the world’s sole superpower.”
- William Kristol, Weekly Standard editor, and Lawrence F. Kaplan, New Republic senior editor, 2/24/03

HOW MANY TROOPS WILL BE NEEDED?
“I would be surprised if we need anything like the 200,000 figure that is sometimes discussed in the press. A much smaller force, principally special operations forces, but backed up by some regular units, should be sufficient.”
- Richard Perle, Chairman of the Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board, 7/11/02

“I don’t believe that anything like a long-term commitment of 150,000 Americans would be necessary.”
- Richard Perle, speaking at a conference on “Post-Saddam Iraq” sponsored by the American Enterprise Institute, 10/3/02

“I would say that what’s been mobilized to this point — something on the order of several hundred thousand soldiers are probably, you know, a figure that would be required.”
- Gen. Eric Shinseki, testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee, 2/25/03

“The idea that it would take several hundred thousand U.S. forces, I think, is far from the mark.”
- Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, 2/27/03

“I am reasonably certain that they will greet us as liberators, and that will help us keep [troop] requirements down. … We can say with reasonable confidence that the notion of hundreds of thousands of American troops is way off the mark…wildly off the mark.”
- Paul Wolfowitz, U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense, testifying before the House Budget Committee, 2/27/03

“It’s hard to conceive that it would take more forces to provide stability in post-Saddam Iraq than it would take to conduct the war itself and to secure the surrender of Saddam’s security forces and his army. Hard to image.”
- Paul Wolfowitz, U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense, testifying before the House Budget Committee, 2/27/03

“If our commanders on the ground say we need more troops, I will send them. But our commanders tell me they have the number of troops they need to do their job. Sending more Americans would undermine our strategy of encouraging Iraqis to take the lead in this fight. And sending more Americans would suggest that we intend to stay forever, when we are, in fact, working for the day when Iraq can defend itself and we can leave.”
- President George W. Bush, 6/28/05

“The debate over troop levels will rage for years; it is…beside the point.”
- Rich Lowry, conservative syndicated columnist, 4/19/06

WHAT ABOUT CASUALTIES?
“Oh, no, we’re not going to have any casualties.”
- President George W. Bush, response attributed to him by the Reverend Pat Robertson, when Robertson warned the president to prepare the nation for “heavy casualties” in the event of an Iraq war, 3/2003

“Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I mean, it’s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?”
- Barbara Bush, former First Lady (and the current president’s mother), on Good Morning America, 3/18/03

“I think the level of casualties is secondary… [A]ll the great scholars who have studied American character have come to the conclusion that we are a warlike people and that we love war… What we hate is not casualties but losing.”
- Michael Ledeen, American Enterprise Institute, 3/25/03

and it goes on, an excellant source for everyone

Peterr’s been digging… let’s digg him too.

Earlier this evening on the NBC Evening News, Brian Williams showed the funeral procession of an Iraqi child, killed in one of the recent battles. It struck me that even with as little footage as we’ve had of Iraqi funerals over the last five years, we’ve seen more of their dead on the television evening news than we have of American casualties — even as we count our few (4000+) while ignoring their tens or hundreds of thousands.

No coffins arriving at Dover AFB.
No military funerals at Arlington.
No base ceremonies to remember the fallen when their units arrive back in the States.
Nothing.

Maybe the local paper carries a story about the local kid who died, but nothing nationally.

Why does Bush hate the fallen US military members?

with apologies to the lads:

I’m digging a hole where the McCain gets in
and stops his mind from wondering
where it will go
I’m filling the cracks that ran though the war
and kept my mind from wandering
where it will go

And it really doesn’t matter if I’m wrong
I’m right where I belong
I’m right where I belong
See the people standing there
who disagree and never win
and wonder why they don’t get in my door …

How can she stand near that creepy, drunk, murderer? He is mean and crazy; she is inscrutable.

hugh at 22–omg that was funny!

Why does Bush hate the fallen US military members?

because they are not available to stand up and cheer for dear leader.

Hooooo-ahhh!!!!!

Because they point out his mistake in a way nothing else can, and because they bring his already low approval rating even lower. If that sounds cynical, that’s because I am cynical now.

Late, but… punaise, is there a “low-low home price” segment – like “under $200,000″? Geez, I didn’t know 75% of the inhabitants of Northwest Arkansas were in the “low” category. Makes me feel not worthy.

;~P

What is the story with all of the colors on that phototour? I’ve never seen a military photo with rainbow colors like that.

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

Laura Bush, docile doormat
Behold, the ideal Republican wife: Prim, sexless, nearly useless, lets the men do the real thinkin’. Hot!

We have a winner!

nice.

it’s adjusted to the Bay Area’s crazy cost of housing. the median salary needed to afford the median home is in the gazillions, or so it seems.

Excellent, perris. All of these neocons are coming out now pointing fingers at each other. It is the best example of groupthink ever.

Oh… I’m toopid. That’s SF, not NWA. My bad.

;(

Heh.. At that price, my NWA house would be about 12 thousands square feet.

Makes me want to move back out to the west coast… Not!

Sorry rwcole

;~P

I don’t think my lot is even that big.

Why does Bush hate the fallen US military members?

Because he can’t profit off them anymore.

Is anyone going to ask John Surge is Working McCain why there are increased US and civilian casualties in Iraq?

-G

peterr–they had a clip of mccain on newshour tonight, monotone, ceo language, his ’handlers’ are polishing him….few weeks ago, i noticed his tone has changed in his voice, dramatically, but was a gradual thing…..voice coach….(as noticable as kathleen turner’s when she did it)…..so, the presidential race has turned into how to create a beauty queen….for real. and his suits have changed in the last few days. color and everything. wonder how they fit all of these people on the bus? bet that stuff doesn’t show up on the campaign budget……wonder how he likes being ’fluffed’ and remade by experts.

elliot–left you a response at 94 in last thread, no hurry, no need to respond…..just a note.

Things are usually hidden out of shame.

-G

Not so OT:

“The new Move-on ad is here! The new Move-on ad is here!”

(apologies to Steve Martin)

Mama Likes!

oh, btw, punaise, nice to see you back at the lake more regularly. your wit was missed (by myself, anyway)

slàinte

Jimmy Cricketttt….she must be alot of fun. Thanks for the read.

Gardening beats vacuuming.. And 6 year mortgages with the entire price of my house totaling less than a CA down payment is why I left Cally.

(((((jacqrat)))))))

great ad, thanks for the link.

cheers, DrB! I had a bit of a hiatus and am slowly dipping toes back online.

dmac: Thanks for the visual.

*looking for brain bleach*

Gotta go get a barf bucket…

No.

(Not from the media, at any rate.)

This has been another edition of simple answers to simple questions.

I left in ‘88, (EAOS, USN).

Loved San Diego, but knew there was no way I could afford to live there. Miss the climate, don’t miss the earthquakes.

Love it here.

FYI, New Obama ad on gas prices.. Will run in Indiana.

The colored shirts and helmets are safety features that allow quick identification of the different jobs on the flight deck, such as plane captain, fueling, ordnance, firewatch, plane launchers, etc. It is so noisy on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier that you can’t hear yourself think, everything is done with hand signals and chalkboards.

No way in hell that man could win a beauty contest! You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a….

Netroots Nation, come on down. I must check out your authenticity, he said challengingly! No one can use such a name and not be asked to provide the bonafides! That’s right, Austin, Texas-The show me City. You won’t even be asked to bring that thing…

The colored shirts and helmets…

silly me – I was sure it was a tele-tubby thing.

Thanks, I like this ad.

I had a little mix-up with a guy from Texas once, Naval Station Pearl Harbor, if I remember correctly, shortly after the on-base blub closed for the night. Don’t care to mess with TX again.

;~P

bong at 68–yer welcome : P

just things everybody outta know! hope ya hit the bucket!

and eureka, yes, gardening beats vacuuming, no wait, i like to vacuum/sweep, how ’bout it beats dishes? i always said, small house, big garage/shed/workshop/studio/barn.

club, not blub.

ethel merman belting out “Everything’s coming up roses” sprang to mind…

blech!

kay at 73

…… n animal

Obama sez we gotta look at oil company price gouging. I think we’ve been looking at it long enough. He also touts alternative fuels. I hope he doesn’t consider coal to be an alternative fuel.

I like him better than Hillary, but I did not like that ad. The Move On McCain ad is teh awesome, however.

bonger at 80–gotta love her enthusiasm, he doesn’t have that…he’d hum it like some kinda serial killer makin’ plans.

ewwwwww that’s baaad. i’m goin’ to the dark side of snark…..

hackworth at 82–yes he does look at coal as an alternative fuel.

oh, darkblack… courtesy phone on aisle 83

;~P

betraying the fervent belief that the 2008 elections will reflect the sentiments of the people, as represented in these polls.

but, er, what about this other trendline – election 2000 derailed by vote supression and fraud in Florida, handed to Bush on a platter by the Supreme Court, with no real protest from the (D) establishment whose voters were disenfranchised….

election 2004 stolen by fraud and suppression in Ohio and elsewhere, with partisan (R) hacks now serving time in Ohio, but again no serious resistance put up by lackluster Washington (D)’s…

from this we can extrapolate that media bias and superficial, trivial slandering of the (D) candidate combined with (R) dirty tricks might bring the vote counts close enough to steal again… so why should McCain worry about Bush’s approval ratings?

this isn’t even factoring in more war hysteria, if the war against Iran that (D)’s are doing nothing to prevent is underway by Nov 2008, and the (D) candidate scampers rightward trying to prove how ‘tough’ they are, alienating those who are sincerely antiwar enough to inhibit their willingness to support the lesser of two pandering warmongers, supressing turnout among those the Democrats think have no choice…

the way to avert this at the pass is for the candidate to seriously critique US militarism in the mideast as contrary to the real interests of the USA, as well as being obviously ineffective and morally repugnant. Such an honest and brave stance could galvanize real support from a broad swath of the country, many of whom are tempted to sit this one out, again. Courage and truth can be great allies.

without this, a (D) candidate could be pulled into the untenable position of wannabe, me-too warmongering while the media recapitulates their propaganda efforts from 2002 and tears down the (D) pro-war posturing as insincere.

so they’ll lose centrists and moderate (R)’s many of whom are intensely disgusted by the Bushist regime and were ready to vote (D) for the first time in generations of their families, and they’ll lose those who sincerely oppose wars of aggression more than they feel obligated to the comprimised, complicit (D) political faction.

so, the poll numbers now are nothing to gloat over.

I don’t think it was me. I left in 1979, but if you were there then, I just got back from Diego Garcia and I was really stoned…

I caught the change in McCain’s vocal stylings yesterday when NPR gave him free air time to tout his health care plan. (His plan will result in more uninsured Amerkins, more sickness and death, carte blanche for insurance companies, more bankruptcies cause by health care expenses. IOW, its a disaster. NPR made it all sound quite reasonable.

Anyway, yes. McCrypt’s voice, inflection and manner of speaking were noticeably restyled.

oh, and dmac, in the very slim chance you have not been properly indoctrinated

darkblack, meet dmac.

;~P

In ‘79 I was probably pretty stoned, too, but gradjiating high school was my only real challenge.

;~P

All I can say to that is

John McCain:
Worse than Bush

bonger at 89–yeeees, we have ’met’…..but i had knee surgery, came back to the lake a few months later and ’some people’ were gone……..thanks, i didn’t have the blog site….

this one’s for you-
http://farm1.static.flickr.com…..825b19.jpg

gotta go pack, outta town for a few days…no lake…unless i hijack a computer while i’m there.

Downhill skislope?

safe travels, dmac

you are in the bong household’s prayers.

nite

Come on guys….you know what this is about. This is so the citizenry doesn’t get itself all hot and bothered about….

Dead Americans….

Dead Iraqis….

Trillions disappearing…..

$200/barrel oil…no, that’s not a misprint

But ya know…there’s another Pollster graph ya really oughta take a gander at folks. This one here:

http://www.pollster.com/currenttrends.php

So….let’s use Peterr’s most excellent logic and ask:

Why are the Democrats in both houses still digging. First rule of holes is ‘Stop digging…’ ain’t it?

The answer to this question is the key to what and how and where to the progressive movement must MOVE in the next several cycles.

The evidence is out there….It’s very clear what’s going on but apart from a few posts by Jane & Co. and some by Stoller, fergit Bowers he’s clueless, nobody is talking about this and analyzing it.

Oh yeah, taking on McSame is like shooting fish in a barrel and it does need to be done. But as long as McSame is actually swimming in great big pool built, in part, for him by the Democratic ‘Leadership’ we are not going to be solving the major problems we face.

Lemme know when you realize that McSame ain’t in that barrel you’re fillin’ with birdshot, Okay?