Comments on: Things Americans Don’t Like To Talk About http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:01:44 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: jewellthief http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418751 jewellthief Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:19:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418751 <p>they’re too busy dodging bomb threats to their church and Rev. Moss has been equally busy dodging death threats to him and his family….</p> <p>I’m reminded of a line in the song by House of Pain, <strong>Jump Around</strong>:</p> <p><em>but I ain’t goin out like no punk bytch</em>…</p> <p>basically IMO what Sen. Obama did, after having to endure the lunatic rantings from the so called ‘progressive’ left who relish equally w/ the reichwingnuttery the job of telling african americans who/what/how they should believe…. <a href="http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=603&Itemid=1" rel="nofollow">this article by black agenda web</a> more or less says it all….</p> <p>I look forward to Faux News’ video of the Obamas entering/leaving their new church, w/ its predominantly white congregation…. I’d be surprised if they remain members of Trinity again….</p> <p>of course, who cares when you’ve successfully rescued your campaign by disassociating yourself from a good segment of your voting bloc… but hey, that bloc has been taken advantage of throughout the HIStory of the party, why change now?</p> they’re too busy dodging bomb threats to their church and Rev. Moss has been equally busy dodging death threats to him and his family….

I’m reminded of a line in the song by House of Pain, Jump Around:

but I ain’t goin out like no punk bytch…

basically IMO what Sen. Obama did, after having to endure the lunatic rantings from the so called ‘progressive’ left who relish equally w/ the reichwingnuttery the job of telling african americans who/what/how they should believe…. this article by black agenda web more or less says it all….

I look forward to Faux News’ video of the Obamas entering/leaving their new church, w/ its predominantly white congregation…. I’d be surprised if they remain members of Trinity again….

of course, who cares when you’ve successfully rescued your campaign by disassociating yourself from a good segment of your voting bloc… but hey, that bloc has been taken advantage of throughout the HIStory of the party, why change now?

]]> By: Acanthus http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418489 Acanthus Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:48:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418489 <p>:Has there been any reaction from memebers of Reverend Wright’s congregation to Obama’s statement?”</p> <p>You mean Otis Moss’ congregation? None that I’ve heard.</p> :Has there been any reaction from memebers of Reverend Wright’s congregation to Obama’s statement?”

You mean Otis Moss’ congregation? None that I’ve heard.

]]> By: David Neiwert http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418072 David Neiwert Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:17:08 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418072 <p>People have a lot of personal motivations for doing the things they do, and I think it’s very difficult to surmise what Wright’s motivations are. I’m sure he feels his reputation and that of his congregation has been smeared and he’s ready to take on all comers in their defense, Obama or no Obama. A typical pastor would see that as their ultimate calling.</p> <p>You seem willing to accept bad information as factual, too. The Klan was not “born” in Vincennes, Indiana. A number of Indiana towns, most often Martinsville, have been similarly tagged. None of it is accurate. The <i>first</i> Klan — the Klan of Nathan Bedford Forrest and the night riders — was born in Pulaski, Tennessee. The second Klan was born in Stone Mountain, Ga., shortly after the Leo Frank lynching. Now, there was in fact a significant Klan presence in Indiana (the state was run by the Klan for a couple of years) and a number of towns, including Vincennes and Martinsville, in fact hosted large Klan rallies.</p> <p>And finally, you ought to be aware that <a href="http://www.reasononline.org/2008/04/guilt-by-association.html" rel="nofollow">Steve Sailer</a> has been promoting more or less the same theory.</p> People have a lot of personal motivations for doing the things they do, and I think it’s very difficult to surmise what Wright’s motivations are. I’m sure he feels his reputation and that of his congregation has been smeared and he’s ready to take on all comers in their defense, Obama or no Obama. A typical pastor would see that as their ultimate calling.

You seem willing to accept bad information as factual, too. The Klan was not “born” in Vincennes, Indiana. A number of Indiana towns, most often Martinsville, have been similarly tagged. None of it is accurate. The first Klan — the Klan of Nathan Bedford Forrest and the night riders — was born in Pulaski, Tennessee. The second Klan was born in Stone Mountain, Ga., shortly after the Leo Frank lynching. Now, there was in fact a significant Klan presence in Indiana (the state was run by the Klan for a couple of years) and a number of towns, including Vincennes and Martinsville, in fact hosted large Klan rallies.

And finally, you ought to be aware that Steve Sailer has been promoting more or less the same theory.

]]> By: LoudounLib http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418059 LoudounLib Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:12:02 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418059 <p>Heh ;-)</p> Heh ;-)

]]> By: merkwurdiglieber http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418051 merkwurdiglieber Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:09:41 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418051 <p>The point, at last, being that all the prez aspirants demonstrated their<br /> ambition, not their judgement, in casting the yes vote for war. None<br /> would have survived the Cuban Missile Crisis with that same type of<br /> vote, Kennedy was the lone dissenter and withstood tremendous pressure<br /> of the group think rampant in those ExCom meetings. But, somehow, this<br /> rare point will be elided into another do loop… betcha.</p> The point, at last, being that all the prez aspirants demonstrated their
ambition, not their judgement, in casting the yes vote for war. None
would have survived the Cuban Missile Crisis with that same type of
vote, Kennedy was the lone dissenter and withstood tremendous pressure
of the group think rampant in those ExCom meetings. But, somehow, this
rare point will be elided into another do loop… betcha.

]]> By: Juno http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418050 Juno Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:09:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418050 <p>I suspect sarcasm, so feel free to illustrate anytime I have indicated that a person is wrong for electing to support Obama.</p> <p>I haven’t.</p> I suspect sarcasm, so feel free to illustrate anytime I have indicated that a person is wrong for electing to support Obama.

I haven’t.

]]> By: DWBartoo http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418046 DWBartoo Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:08:02 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418046 <p>I am convinced.</p> <p>Irony is NOT dead.</p> <p>Just, misunderstood ….</p> I am convinced.

Irony is NOT dead.

Just, misunderstood ….

]]> By: db11 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418039 db11 Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:04:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418039 <blockquote><p>I do not think we have to suggest or in any way imply that a person is bonkers or wrong or flawed or faulty because they support one’s opponent.<br /> reply</p></blockquote> <p>Agreed. And glad to know that you have never engaged in same regarding Obama supporters.</p>

I do not think we have to suggest or in any way imply that a person is bonkers or wrong or flawed or faulty because they support one’s opponent.
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Agreed. And glad to know that you have never engaged in same regarding Obama supporters.

]]> By: Juno http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418033 Juno Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:58:11 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418033 <p>Thank you, Oldgold.</p> <p>I happen to think that, in a democracy, people can support whomever they choose, and we can make arguments back and forth as to why we think one candidate is better than the other, or even why we think one is worse. I do not think we have to suggest or in any way imply that a person is bonkers or wrong or flawed or faulty because they support one’s opponent.</p> Thank you, Oldgold.

I happen to think that, in a democracy, people can support whomever they choose, and we can make arguments back and forth as to why we think one candidate is better than the other, or even why we think one is worse. I do not think we have to suggest or in any way imply that a person is bonkers or wrong or flawed or faulty because they support one’s opponent.

]]> By: wobblybits http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418028 wobblybits Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:56:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/29/things-americans-dont-like-to-talk-about/#comment-1418028 <p>aah, yes. That is actually sage advice that I fail to follow at times and need a more level head to point that out.</p> <p>thanks *g*</p> aah, yes. That is actually sage advice that I fail to follow at times and need a more level head to point that out.

thanks *g*

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