This doublestandard is making my head explode.

Cloak it in religion, and it is above criticism, as long as it’s a white preacher or believer.

i am so verrrrry tired of this bullcaky

Amen, Jane!

BTW you so rawked on TV the other day. :)

It’s pretty freakin unfair, but I don’t know that Obama had any choice.

Yeah McCain should be forced to apologize to some Nuns! Catholic Church is “Great Whore” Whore is antiCatholic code for Nuns and Mary it ties them to the Whore of Babylon and Queen Jezebel.

i was having my car serviced today,and dimwit was on the teebee in the waiting room,BLAMING CONGRESS for the economys woes…ps the giantOIL COs repoted RECORD PROFITS again today….just shoot me already,yea my pastor is helpless

I like to pray to the baby Jesus there in the manger with his Einstein Developmental…I hadn’t assigned any particular race to him yet. I suppose he should look a little like ME…

I can’t view video at the office. Did Obama repudiate Hagee? Or Wright? And on a proofreader note I think “away” was used instead of “await” in the first sentence of the last graf.

yes Jane you SMOKED them………

hey Jane !

Media Matters has a McKept fact check site up -

McCain source

ummmm, handy ! pass the bbq sauce pls

yes McKept has a ring to it..i of course invented McGiggolo,which works well too”g”

He repudiated Wright.

Nobody has to repudiate what Hagee says. Apparently, there is nothing wrong with anything Hagee says (Mississippi getting whacked by Katrina was just collateral damage of that decision by New Orleans to have that gay pride parade, dontcha know) and in fact, actively seeking Hagee’s support is just fine and dandy, and straightalking, too.

Did someone say Chocolate Jesus?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1wfamPW3Eaw

He repudiated Wright.

Jeremiah Wright and his associate pastor have gotten death threats. Trinity United Church of Christ has gotten bomb threats. Journalists got the names of the ill and bereaved from church bulletins and called them - including one woman in a hospice - for comments. And now Obama has repudiated Wright. It’s a sad, sad day for Trinity Church. Sometimes it seems like God is the only one you can turn to…..

What dosido said. Jane you have a minor typo in your last paragraph me thinks - “I anxiously await” rather than “away”.

wow! so much info. I’ll have to spend some time there poking around. Of course it has our favorite huggy bear pic of McCain and Bush.

My second fave pic is one from the video of McCain at his 100 years appearance. The camera is behind him and as he is answering with his now famous response, the guy in the front row literally has his mouth hanging open.

Obama must in my estimation,not speak about Rev Wright,anymore,he needs to say he has endless other problems THE GOP,and DIMWIT,created,and cannot spend anymore precious time,on a subject that REALLY DOES NOT affect the country,or the world

John Hagee are you willing to face the test Elijah challenged the false Prophets with? Are you willing to face the same consequences?
If not then stop claiming to speak for the LORD!

Then Elijah said, “I am the only prophet of the LORD still left, but there are 450 prophets of Baal. Bring two bulls; let the prophets of Baal take one, kill it, cut it in pieces, and put it on the wood–but don’t light the fire. I will do the same with the other bull. Then let the prophets of Baal pray to their god, and I will pray to the LORD, and the god who answers by sending fire–he is God.”

The people shouted their approval.

Then Elijah said to the prophets of Baal. “Since there are so many of you, you take a bull and prepare it first. Pray to your god, but don’t set fire to the wood.”

They took the bull that was brought to them, prepared it, and prayed to Baal until noon. They shouted. “Answer us. Baal!” and kept dancing around the altar they had built. But no answer came.

At noon Elijah started making fun of them; “Pray louder! Hi is a god! Maybe he is day-dreaming or relieving himself, or perhaps he’s gone off on a trip! Or maybe he’s sleeping, and you’ve got to wake him up!” So the prophets prayed louder and cut themselves with knives and daggers, according to their ritual, until blood flowed. They kept on ranting and raving until the middle of the afternoon; but no answer came, not sound was heard.

Then Elijah said to the people, “Come closer to me.” and they all gathered around him. He set about repairing the altar of the LORD which had been torn down. He took twelve stones, one for each of the twelve tribes named for the sons of Jacob, the man to whom the LORD had given the name Israel With these stones he rebuilt the altar for the worship of the LORD. He dug a trench around it, large enough to hold about four gallons of water. Then he placed the wood on the altar, cut the bull in pieces, and laid it on the wood. He said, “Fill four jars with water and pour it on the offering and the wood.” They did so, and the said, “Do it again”–and they did. “Do it once more,” he said–and they did. The water ran down around the altar and filled the trench.

At the hour of the afternoon sacrifice the prophet Elijah approached the altar and prayed, “O LORD, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, prove now that you are the God of Israel. and that I am your servant and have done all this at your command. Answer me, LORD, answer me, so that this people will know that you, the LORD, are God and that you are bringing them back to yourself.”

The LORD sent fire down, and it burned up the sacrifice, the wood, and the stones, scorched the earth and dried up the water in the trench.

When the people saw this, they threw themselves on the ground and exclaimed. “The LORD is God; the LORD alone is God!”

Elijah ordered, “Seize the prophets of Baal; don’t let any of them get away!” The people seized them all, and Elijah led them down to Kishon Brook and killed them.

http://www.amazingchange.org/s....._profb.htm!

Oops my 17 is in reply to cbl2 at #10.

That is really sad. Death threats?

Fine. I anxiously away John Hagee’s statement about the Catholic Church being the “great whore” getting the same kind of treatment.

And many other aspects of Hagee’s Christian Zionism deserve similar attention, e.g., his immanentizing of the eschaton and his preaching that the Jews who fail to convert in the end deservedly get fried by the just and almighty God.

He repudiated Wright.

Then the title of the entire thread needs to be changed, because it says he repudiated Hagee.

i dont see how we will WRIGHT the TITANIC,the media is set on destroying us it seems

You missed the snark?

Jews who fail to convert in the end deservedly get fried by the just and almighty God.

Good Point McCain hates Jews also Can’t forget that!

digg it

The Wright/Obama relationship sounds to me like one wherein the protegee has outgrown the need for a mentor…

What about what Tancredo said about the Pope? That just disappeared without an apology or anything. That guy’s a total scumbag.

yeah, that’s confusing.

yup,JohnMcGiggolo,is a MISANTHROPE

Yeah, that confused me too, but I watched the clip, and he was repudiating comments made by Wright yesterday that (paraphrasing) give ammunition to people who traffic in hate, it isn’t the Wright he knows, and if Wright says that is just politics for Obama, he doesn’t know Obama very well.

Hmmm…watching that clip…I’m starting to wonder if Obama and Wright might have a “nod and wink” thing happening here. This is giving Obama a chance to put this whole to rest…hopefully.

Wright did wait to speak until after PA after all. Interesting…

i agree,WE HAVE endless GOP caused problems in front of us…i dont care about the trivia of life,and we need to say this often imo

As Chris Wallace so revealingly phrased it in his interview of Obama:

WALLACE: But did (Wright) ever say anything about America or about white racism that troubled you?

Too much cricism of America and of white racism being equivalent, of course.

thats the point,he DOESNT know him intimately,he is his pastor not his RASPUTIN

What about what Falwell said about the Prophet Mohammed and Islam or what Boykin said …or Robertson and Parsley?

jeepers.

And Tancredo is a scumbag among many others.

Unfortunately Obama’s pastor is the minister of the moment because of all the media appearances this weekend, and what started out being a moment of dialogue [and efforting bridging a gap, cred to Moyers] did spiral out of that into what Obama called Wright caricaturing himself at the NPC. It’s not been helpful to the Obama campaign, and as he noted, it disrespected both him and his campaign. I find myself agreeing.

It is frustrating that the press has sat on its hands over Hagee. Will Matt Taibbi’s forthcoming book [I linked last thread] be the catalyst to looking at this guy? We’ll see.

But we must demand of the press that analysis. Not because it’s “Fair and balanced” with the Obama-Wright coverage, but because it stands on its own as a demonstration of McCain’s judgment and character.

BREAKING…

Fox News reports that GOP maverick John McCain has introduced senate legislation designating November 7th as Jeremiah Luther King Day.

;)

while everyone was clutching their MIKOMOTOS (pearls you guys)

April 29, 2008

Pump prices lift Shell and BP to record £7.2bn

David Robertson
BP and Royal Dutch Shell have reported massive increases in profits for the first three months of this year on the back of rocketing petrol prices, which are expected to hit £5 a gallon today.

BP’s pre-tax profits rose 48 per cent in the first quarter to $6.6 billion (£3.3 billion) while Shell increased its profits 12 per cent to a record $7.8 billion (£3.9 billion).

The increase has been driven by the rising oil prices, which the companies have passed on to consumers in the form of higher petrol and diesel costs.

Isn’t it really all about the fact that Wright and Obama are black?

Jane has written some of the wittiest, snarkiest, powerful, wise and most hard-hitting words about the current state of American politics of anyone commenting on this in American media. But the first paragraph of this post has got to be the best quick takes on these hypocrites anyone has written or will write.

attack - Attack - ATTACK - ATTACK!!

Obama is black?

;)

He has now denounced, rejected and repudiated Wright’s comments. But has he renounced, rejected and repudiated dashikis?

uhm…………. yes

He changed it from the earlier title of Jeremiah Farrakhan Osama Day ? *g*

These two well-spoken and articulate gentlemen are playing the media for fools.

This whole episode enables Obama to step further away from the civil-rights-era leadership, showing himself to be of the “next generation.” Without having to speak ill of Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, he reassures white working class voters that he is different by repudiating his own pastor.

Wink, nod.

Recall what Rachel Maddow reminded us of yesterday: Obama’s share of white working class Democratic voters went UP between the primaries in Ohio and Pennsylvania, while TradMed told us over and over that Wright would sink him among that group.

TradMed’s sorrowful concern trolling isn’t gaining traction among voters Obama needs to win the general election. In fact, the media is having very little influence on them at all.

707!

Everything is about them being black. It’s sorta stunning to listen to all the code words but they will use it until the bitter end. Racists are racists and they teach their children to be racists. We need to break the cycle.

SADLY, I started reading Jane’s wonderful post believing that it was actual text from an Obama statement…

Wouldn’t THAT be a refreshing change?!

Must have been the graphic, oh well. I hope he gets a pair enough to say it soon. Thanks for drawing up the outline for him, Jane.

Obama needs to not only “repudiate” Wright, but also “denounce” him.

Hillary Clinton said so in a debate, on a question about Farrakan. So that is now the standard (for Obama).

and UNKA NEWTIE was on the VIEW today praising HILLARY as the answer to ALL our prayers……yup be scared

On this matter, we are in abject agreeance. The Western mass media is populated by corporate whores who seek to create an unassailable double standard on behalf of and in benefit for their masters.
May the sacks of gold received for their posturing prove most difficult to carry as they flee the oncoming apocalypse of their own fatuous design.

In my fantasy parallel universe at this afternoon’s press conference, Obama repudiated the media.

The Democratic leadership is, as usual, mute. Why aren’t they out there slamming the Wright coverage and calling the Repubs out on it? Cowards.

((((( jacqrat )))))

How’ve you been ? Great idea for Barack to use Jane’s words to counter all this tripe.

4Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,[a]’ and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

9″Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

http://www.biblegateway.com/pa.....version=31

Now THAT I would have paid money to see.

Freak waltz.

Nice.

Very good point.
Explains so much.

OT:

Polar bears: 1

W: 0

YAY!

That’s intriguing. Add to this interpretation Obama’s comment that questions about Wright were a “legitimate” issue.

I’m torn between thinking GOPers want to run against Hilary or that they consider her their candidate…

sorta o/t. go vote on the 15 Obamain30seconds finalists!

You know he is willing to listen to Congress and is open to anything. Except the halting of oil being pumped into the Strategic Oil Reserve. We must continue this in case of a terrorist attack on our Oil. The MBA Oil preznit wants to buy Oil at peak prices to store in the ground. No wonder he is at 23%.

Aren’t those ads great ! I looked at them all and voted. I actually could go with any of them.

Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

Secretary Condoleezza Rice stated during a press conference that “[w]hat we’re seeing here [in regards to the destruction of Lebanon and the Israeli attacks on Lebanon], in a sense, is the growing—the ‘birth pangs’—of a ‘New Middle East’ and whatever we do we [meaning the United States] have to be certain that we’re pushing forward to the New Middle East [and] not going back to the old one.”

http://globalresearch.ca/index.....8;aid=3882

My bold just who is the twisted person writing her speeches?

Maybe he’s thinking of a “terrorist attack” on “our” oil…in Iraq, if you know what I mean.

Bush needs to pump as much oil into the reserve as he can before he invades Iran.

Let’s all rejoice at yet another year of record oil company profits. We’ve done our part by keeping Bush and Cheney in office while we just keep on paying. Even in Bush dollars, it’s still lots of money. Keep smiling and remember: the Royal Wedding is just around the corner.

4Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,[a]’ and will deceive many.

Didn’t Bush claim he talks to God?

You know Jane, I think the media is going to give John McCain a pass until the democrats finally choose a candidate. MSNBC is spotlighting McCain’s “Healthcare plan” as we speak, so what does that tell you?

prolly Michael Gerson…

gag.

They were praising Obama until a few months ago. Until there’s a nominee, they’re interested in attacking the front running and puffing up the challenger. They’re against whatever we want.

These two well-spoken and articulate gentlemen are playing the media for fools.

interesting take.

and if you are correct - that wright is in on it and ok with it.

well, then obama may yet win my support.

A corrupt and complicit celebrity media, a win at all cost Republican Party, a vacuous and disengaged electorate, a timid, cowardly and fractuous Democratic Party, a politicized beauracracy and a voting system that has been gamed are setting the stage for a McCain victory in November. The corporate media and the Republican Party will not be neutered prior to November thus a McCain victory is all the more likely.

Does anyone believe his claims? It’s just Bush style pandering.

Remember when the question du jour was “is Obama black enough?” Seems like a long time ago.

Yes indeed all the ads are excellent and I too voted for all of them. MoveOn forevah!

Someone who attended lots of Bible study growing up, would be my guess.

You know Jane, I think the media is going to give John McCain a pass until the democrats finally choose a candidate he is inaugurated. MSNBC is spotlighting McCain’s “Healthcare plan” as we speak, so what does that tell you?

Fixed it for you.

Yes! Who will be the first to use the N word?

Black Jeebus on a stick.

Yes. I tried to view them with a jaded GOP eye frankly asking myself, how can I mock this ad, to see which one would stand that test.

I did like the zipper one. And this is your brain on hope one.

Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

Yeah Trust your fellow man and lend him a hand. War should not be our first response to a problem.
Oh and it seems that Only Lefties Are Going to the Rapture!
Maybe me too If I’m Left enough and Good enough! Repent the time is now! The time to Repent is always Now!

I can’t blame reporters for covering this story- it’s HOT . Americans are talking about it. WE’RE all talking about it—-

As a story it beats the hell out of interviewing an accountant about the actual cost of Obama’s health care plan.

Actually I think he claimed that God talks to him

Too far down the page to matter, probably, but what the hey:

Why didn’t Obama, knowing that all the cable news networks were going live with this, not mention Hagee/McCain in his responses, or take it to the idiot journalists covering him?

Y’all, that’s today’s issue- not whether the media should be covering Hagee, Parsley, etc. They should, but they won’t until someone who has live coverage on national TV for over 40 minutes brings it up - in context.

What, you say, Obama had 40 minutes of live TV to mention it and didn’t? Ain’t nobody’s bad but his, then. Sorry.

(Don’t hate- I’m an Obama supporter, but am amazed at how he continues to squander the free, live publicity he has. This ain’t the first time it’s happened, either).

And it beats interviewing a mortician about the actual cost of McCain’s health care plan.

I don’t know I’D be interested in THAT one.

yes, and the rest of us are just jealous…

Every time Obama–or any other Democrat–is asked about Wright, he should simply answer the question as though its subject was Hagee.

This should work in blogs and their comments, too.

What does the plan entail? Enlisting?

This freak’s not going to win. Not in a hundred years.

The Hagee thing would make a great story as well- but there would have to be some reason to think that McBush actually believes any of the weird shit Hagee says…..In fact, there isn’t even reason to think that McBush believes any of the weird shit HE says.

If Bu’ush talked to God, the latter would need an interpreter fluent in Texperanto-on-quaaludes-goulash to make any sense out it.

You mean “excuse me? were you asking me about Rev. Hagee?”

I don’t think Obama needs to engage with the Hagee issue right now.

George has been deaf to God’s pleading for sanity and compassion. George is only listening to that fallen angel Cheney.

Gee whiz, if I needed help I might ask for it.

prolly Michael Gerson…

gag.
What kind of nut uses almost the exact same words as the Bible to Describe the End of Days to describe Condi’s middle east peace plans?
An honest but crazy man?
A Satanist who can’t wait for it to start?
A Satanist with a sense of humor (the end of days starts as Condi’s peace plan?)

The Bushies are very fundamentalist they can’t claim ignorance of the Bible when even we Lefties notice!

My mother buys books and video tapes from the good reverand Hagee. He’s a fuckin nut job.

Parphrasing Lewis Lapham, there are but two people in Bu’ushworld. It is a place wherein Bu’ush the Actor need only please Bu’ush the Audience.

That just scares me more!

This is so disgusting.

Dickwad Addington is yapping about how the Veep is a law unto his own and the shitheels like Matthews and Blitzer are chubbed up over Rev. Wright.

Calgon, take me away.

-G

Must go to some great ofter sermon buffets that Rev. Hagee.

-G

Naw, don’t even ask the question. Just answer, “What Hagee said about Catholics was vile and immoral. I can’t understand why McCain sought his endorsement.”

So I guess David Axelrod’s assignment for the next 2 months is to tread that very narrow path between “angry bombastic black minister” and “arugula”.

The thing is, if we just took the media out of the equation - and Obama just talked to real people - they’d all love him.

birth pangs ????

so does that make Madame Secretary the mucous plug ?!?!?

sorry, I’ll be over here

As long as the Republican/Media Complex is demanding that people denounce and repudiate their coreligionists, is it going to demand that Mitt Romney (who may be McCain’s pick for VP nominee) denounce and reject the fundamentalist Latter Day Saints cult in Texas, which officials have determined forced underage girls to have sex and babies?

OK, so the cult split off from the Latter Day Saints a century ago, and Romney presumably is not a member of the cult, nor is his leader Romney’s “spiritual advisor” as far as we know. But still, shouldn’t Romney demonstrate he has no connection with the cult or its practices?/s

You probably have all seen this, but I just saw it…Cheney officially flips finger at Congress:

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/....._0429.html

Don’t forget to read Matt Taibi on Hagee’s camp. Jesus Made me Puke

Huckabee is gonna get the VP nod. You just watch.

1Now when he saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, 2and he began to teach them saying:
3″Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
10Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11″Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

http://www.biblegateway.com/pa.....version=31

Well, for one thing, HRC vs. BHO is a higher priority of news than Sen. McCain right now. There is no longer a primary fight in GOP land, so there isn’t anything to report. What is needed is for somebody to run an ad pointing out Hagee batshit craziness, and how eagerly McCain accepted his endorsement. It costs our side money, but it’s the only way.

ROTFLMAO!

Yeah- his congregation used to be larger- bu