Login HereThe RNC is really losing its grip over the new DNC ad of John McCain making his "100 years" in Iraq comment. I don't quite know how, but a clip of John McCain uttering this statement himself is supposed to be "false and defamatory." They're demanding CNN and MSNBC not run it.
The whole thing must be testing just horribly for McCain. I was on PBS's To the Contrary with McCain adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer yesterday, who did her best John McCain temper impression when the comment was mentioned.
Atrios was right -- it makes them instantly and inexplicably irrational. Nancy starts repeating "factcheck.org" like McCain made the comment in Chinese or something and people couldn't understand what he meant without a translator.
Use "100 years" and "Iraq" in the same sentence and I think people get the idea.
North Carolina bloggers will be delivering a letter to Liddy Dole, telling her to stop the RNC attack ads against Obama. You can sign the letter here. And if you're a kossak, please go recommend Hekebolos' diary on it -- jh
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So, Jane!
McBush is building ammunition—to be used against him- by November dems won’t know what to fire first.
I get a “this video is no longer available” when I click on it.
McCain’s maccaca moment.
Beautiful day in Bizarro world, idn’t it?
LMAO.
100 years in Iraq and warmongering…Kablambo..pop goes the temper cork…heh, heh, heh…
The video is no longer available for me, as well.
You can watch the ad here while we wait for Jane’s link.
I don’t get the video either…
Great Ad
Short and to the point- relies on McBush’s words. Will be cheap to run too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFknKVjuyNk
or here if it’s different from yours.
Has anyone asked the Clintons how long they expected the US would be maintaining troops in Iraq when they voted for the Iraq war without reading the NIE?
Ditto!
If the DNC runs the ad and it kicks the shit out of McBush- I’ll break my promise and send em money before the convention.
Is “the hundred year war in Iraq” the new esotericism? We peons just don’t understand the hidden deeper meaning that only Repugs grasp. Billy Boy Kristol is esoteric, that we know, because he tells us all the time. He and the Kagans are among the chosen to rule the earth. They are perfect.
I guess trollop is the new esoteric as is c..t. I wish I had McCain’s brillaint insight so I can see with his great depth. Oh hum!
I agree that “McCane” is himself false and defamatory.
I love this quote from a YouTube viewer ProleFeedTV:
The more I see of the senile old fart the more I think America would deserve what they get after 8 years of Bush and still enough fools to vote for McCain. I’m sure Diebold will help as much as possible but, seriously, if it’s even close enough to be stolen then you might as well stick a fork in this country.
What would it take for all Republican heads to explode?
And if his father and grandfather weren’t grand poobah’s in the Navy .. I doubt he would have finished that high
I couldn’t to get the video to play either. But the commercial can be seen here, at the Minnesota Monitor site.
One good sneeze.
Video, what video?
We are living in 1984, Part Deux.
So, will CNN bow to their wishes?
Of course, Rs can’t be made to look stupid by ising their own words. That would never do. /s
I’m just watching David Gregory’s new show (missed which Superdelegate Clinton got), but there is something I wanted to bring up. Why are people saying that Obama is elitist when it was Hillary Clinton that insisted on putting her darling daughter in a private school when they went to the WH? I haven’t any idea where his daughters go to school, nor where they will send them if they win, but I sure know that the public schools weren’t good enough for her daughter. Carter’s daughter attended the public school; he made a point of it. Said if the public school isn’t good enough, we need to improve them. Hillary is the elitist of the two; not Barack, IMO.
I don’t know. The ad says that the war only cost 500 billion. I’ve heard Bush say it cost more than that. And shouldn’t they put some count on the Iraqi dead by now?
The bigger question is, will they run it, ad nauseum, giving the DNC free air time while demanding it be denounced harder or better or something, like that misleading ad in NC?
Nah, I didn’t think so. The DNC will have to pay for every microsecond of air time they get.
Kind of like Bush, without George H. W. and Prescott before him. Funny, you’d think the American experience was founded upon a break from the tyranny and despotism derived from a dynastic ruling class but it just seems to keep leaching into the mix. The from robber barons of old to modern day Bilderberg participants, we just can’t seem to get away from the insidious concept that absolute power corrupts absolutely AND it’s a gift that keeps on giving, from generation to generation.
BTW, Jane, if you have any pull, we don’t get To the Contrary on cable here in Phoenix commercial area. Don’t know why.
You have to be some kind of nutcase to make a social point out of your child’s education. Parents who don’t send their children to the best schools they can afford should be called to task for it, not applauded.
While we fix our technical difficulties, CHS has a great thread up top.
Has McCain ever tried to clarify or restate his 100 year statement?
an African American lesbian as President -
entertained myself at family gatherings for years watching the ditto head in laws go in to spasms at the mere mention :D. it was the best repellant evah!
Wow, I have to disagree with that. Perhaps from a very specific perspective you’re right. On the other hand, communities fall apart if they aren’t actively nurtured. Public schools need students and families from across the socio-economic spectrum. We had no qualms sending our kids to Berkeley public schools - a mixed bag, to be sure - but no regrets.
I give credit to people who choose to send their childre to public schools. I enjoyed teaching in them for six years.
The Clintons sent Chelsea to a Quaker School. If I had a chance I would have sent my kids there only I’m on the other side of the country. She received an excellent education along with values often missed in public schools.
So you’re saying only the poor and the stupid should be left to public schools, so it’s okay to mismanage the school system? I don’t think so. I think the schools should be upgraded and the teachers held to high standards. I took my kids out of public school and put them in parochial school when they were in fourth and sixth grades because they were unable to read and write (at least, I couldn’t read their writing!) Within a year, both had vastly improved. That doesn’t so much speak to the fact that they were in a high class school (they weren’t; tuition was $100 for the first child per year; only $10 extra for additional children. The school was ethnic Croation btw,) but the fact that the public school had very low standards and simply didn’t teach. Their teachers, though, were very interested in passing their responsibility to teach off to the parent. IMO, that’s inexcusable! That didn’t happen in the Catholic school, incidentally. They expected you to parent; not to teach.
I seem to remember that on the Moyer’s interview, it was mentioned what Wright’s ranking was in his graduating class, too, and I remember being really impressed. Wish I could remember what it was, but I thought it was in the upper 10%. They’re just racking Obama due to his relationship with Wright!
Current profile of Sidwell Friends School that Chelsea attended. It is expensive for those who can afford to pay. I’m sure the Clintons didn’t get any special deals.
2004-2005 school year: 1,091 students (563 boys and 528 girls) are enrolled
38% of the student body belong to ethnic minorities
21% of the student body receives some form of financial assistance
The School employs 145 teachers and 98 administrative and support staff.
Tuitions for the 2007-2008 school year are $26,790 (prekindergarten-grade 4) and $27,790 (grades 5-12).[1]
The school never releases its SAT average scores or college admission list.
The school does not rank its students, as that conflicts with the Quaker Testimony of Equality.
Sidwell was founded in 1883 by Thomas Sidwell. Its motto is “Eluceat omnibus lux” (Let the light shine out from all; it can also be translated as “by all,” and alludes to the Quaker concept of inner light). All Sidwell Friends students attend Quaker meetings for worship weekly.
Granted, public figures have concerns about the security and privacy of their children.
Why, some of our best friends send their kids to private schools…
fyi: the episodes are available via podcast on the show’s website:
http://www.pbs.org/ttc/podcasts.html
The tuition alone reeks elitism! I’m quite sure it’s a very good school. I just think that public schools should be improved greatly. Carter sent his daughter to a public school to set an example and because he also believed that public schools should be brought up to a higher standard.
I was going to say thanks, but then I tried it and I realized that I have no idea how to get a podcast! How does one use it? It doesn’t seem like something from You Tube or C&L or any other video I regularly use. Any help would be appreciated.
Video still broken….Dam was hoping to see a rethuglian pulling his hair out!!
Darn, I was looking to get a ReZed…
hooozah!!!! the post is alive and well *g*
Dang, EPU’d…
Woo-Hoo! Go,Conyers, Go!
Conyers to torture memo author: Testify voluntarily or face subpoena
Conyers (D-MI) sent letters to former Deputy Assistant Attorney General John C. Yoo, Chief of Staff to the Vice President David Addington, and former Attorney General John Ashcroft.
In each of the letters, Conyers provides a May 2 deadline for response or, he says, “I will have no choice but to consider the use of compulsory process.”
The three officials have offered various excuses as to why they are unable to testify, but Conyers said those excuses are not good enough.
Link
Well I love the FDL logo on screen! I think I used to watch this show, until my PBS station quit airing it.
When I was a kid, I went to a co-ed grammar school, but the girls played on one side of the school and the boys played on the other. So, there, and elsewhere, I’ve had occasion to observe boys’ playground behavior. It always really pissed the bullies off when you used the same rhetoric on them that they used on me (which is why I only tried it a couple of times before realizing that my life depended on my shutting up). So, McCain and his “advisors” are acting just like the bullies on my childhood playground. Go figure.
mccain is saying his statement is taken out of context and I agree
even though in context it’s just as bad, never the less it is referred out of context
mccain carves the exclusion, “so long as americans are not getting hurt” and he compares his statement to that in japan
so in context he’s not saying he wants to be there for 100 years given the same conditions we have today
but why in context it’s just as bad is the fact that we are not occupying a country that doesn’t want us in japan, in Iraq they want us gone
there was once a chance they wouldn’t want us gone but cheney and rumsfeld deliberately undermined that scenario when they allowed the infrastructure to be destroyed, when he put the entire Iraqi military out of work, when he made electricity, water and gasoline a rare comodity
so what he said in context is even worse in his lack of knowledge then what the quote is saying out of context
May-be one?
Wow–time travel. We’re back.
he will defy subpeona, the administration will invoke executive priviledge and we all all yell and scream
repubs can say things plainly… and often get away with it… while Dems are often accused unfairly… and can’t get a break!
What is wrong with this picture?
the only two things conyers and congress can do that will mean anything at all would be to jail all those who defy subpeona starting with meyers
and impeach the entire administration
neither appear to be on a table that seems to not exist
Inherent contempt would get Yoo to blab…! ;-)
only if they use it to jail the man
they are not willing to weild their power, they are remiss and have renegged their oath to defend and protect our constitution
Wow. Just watched the whole bile inducing video. Words coming out of McCain’s mouth shows Obama’s character???
jeez!
yes, didn’t we know…obama is a ventriloquist..he can put horrific things into McNobrain’s mouth.
Jane, how did you control yourself from reaching across the table and throttling Nancy? Amazing self restraint…! ;-)
Jane Finally saw the video… I was still hoping so see the Rethuglian pull their hair out… We can keep them screaming all the way to November just by saying 100 year WAR…. 100 Hundred year War 100 Hundred year War! 100 Hundred year War! OVER AND OVER again Oh and that the party of Lincoln has become the party of VOTER Disenfranchisement and suppression!
Poor reich wingers. The truth hurts like salt in a wound.
I noticed her hands folded together…good move! Admirable, admirable self restraint without holding back the damning facts.
Jane, you were far and away the most articulate person on that show.
Woohoo!
Keith leading with the Wright story. Let’s see where it goes.
i didn’t see mcsame’s original 100 years statement. (my fault for not following the campaigns). is there a nice long clip somewhere so that i can see the context and judge for myself?
thanks!
Jane– thanks for getting our three cents in on McCain..it really seemed as if all the effort was focused “Obama’s in trouble”. I’d much rather hear info on what a flipflopping warmongering wombat McCain is. Thank you for keeping things on target.
Stay in Iraq for 100 years…why not…
Iraq for 100 years…no problemo
50 years…why not 100…
Mwahahahaha
.org yourself Nancy…Pfuffenfluff
Jane,
Finally got video to work. You are superb, collected, calm and enjoying yourself.
The camera likes you.
More, please.
The people will like what they see; and they will hear what you have to say as well.
As for the two on the ‘other’ side … creepy, just creepy …
That question about whether Obama can win a general election because he lost the Pennsylvania primary is absurd.
New York is not going to be up for grabs in November. Jeez.
100 years
Warmongerer
Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran
100 years
Warmongerer
Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran
Political discourse is past dumb and no one seems to want to break or even question the paradigm. I hope that we are more intelligent than that but then again, people voted George Bush into office
McBush took Goldwater’s senate seat. Goldwater was turned into a persona non grata by bein labeled as a war monger. McBush seems to have taken more than just the seat…
Adios McBush.
Yeah, but now they’d rather go to work than to war…oh, yeah, and feed their families, and keep their houses….times are changing…
Yeah- that IS absurd- but the fact that he trails McBush in Ohio and Pennsylvania is NOT absurd.
[watching the video] First thought: Hillary appeals to right wing (male & female) money right now. It wouldn’t surprise me if that’s where most of her $10 million raised the other night came from.
Okay, back to watching video…
it’s on youtube.
I went to factcheck.org. yikes. every time I searched on mccain’s name, “oily words” came up about Clinton and Obama. Also, I saw that Viveca Novak is one of the board members or something. Run away!
They have a fact check with a link to the McCain thing.
Here’s a story from FactCheck.org she probably doesn’t want us to look at, even though it mentions McCain and context:
Could be the Rush factor too to some degree….they want to set her up bad..I hope it is not actually the Rush factor, but it could be….
Besides…when are they gonna get Rush for inciting a riot in Denver…and telling people to fraudulently vote…
I cracked up too with the factcheck.org pushing the McCain woman was spouting. Why couldn’t she say what McCain was really saying instead of telling listeners to go research it themselves, when everyone has seen the video and saw him saying he could care less if we’re in Iraq for 50 or 100 years!
I’m tired of right wingers. Anyone else?
*raises both hands*
I think Rush is making an impact on neocons in the states where the primaries/caucuses are being held. Hey, the neocons, as one of my readers said recently, have the “Children of the Corn” syndrome, so when Rush needs something done, they go out and do it walking shoulder-to-shoulder. LOL
It wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of her money is coming from wealthy right wingers across this nation. They want her on the ballot so they can finish off the Clintons once and for all. Sick twisted freaks.
Obama is REAL competition for Hillary and McCain. This is why everyone is afraid of him. He’s only worth $4 million dollars and to the elitists, he should be cleaning up their tables after them and not running for the presidency to change what the elitists have done.
Nancy Photentot resembles McCain’s Lobbyist girlfriend. Perhaps she would prefer to defend the Bombaran karaoke performance.
Why oh why do we need to have more debates? hillary, no more debates. Just go meet with the locals, talk to them, listen to them and let them cast their votes.
http://www.dailytidings.com/20.....s/0…
The pictures don’t do it justice. As one drives down the main boulevard, the flags start out on small patches of grass, then increase as the university lawn increases. Flags everywhere, and they only have 1 flag for each 5 dead (white for Iraqis, red for Americans), think if they actually had a flag per victim… a very overwhelming memorial!
Just think what it will look like in 100 years. We wouldn’t have the space to do many more so each flag might represent 100 instead of 5.
Yeah, no kidding!!
But I’m posting what he McCain said right here:
At best, it is self contradictory. Not to mention tone-deaf. “hope it’s ok with you”…uh, has he seen ANY poll numbers about the war?
Newsweek Story linked earlier in the day outlines McBush’s problem. He wants to appeal to both the sane and the neocon branch of the gooper party- which means that he has to both love and hate the Iraq war….
His problem is no accident- it’s built into what party he belongs to. He has to be gung ho- veins in his teeth on the one hand- and attempt to sound half sane from time to time on the other. Would be a challenge for a candidate who was NOT too old and too stupid to be president.
Does every McCain worker need to look like Cindy? It’s the Stepford Campaign!
that about sums them up, doesn’t it?
All depends on what you think is ‘best’ don’t it?
veins in his teeth… LOL
From Factcheck.org:
“Is it true that even though John McCain calls himself a Republican, he has sided more with the Dems than with the Repubs? March 8, 2008
Not true at all. He voted in support of President Bush 95 percent of the time last year, for example.”
Say it loudly and say it often! McCain has voted for 95% of Bush’s policies and this is why our nation and the occupation of Iraq is so screwed up! He’s a reich wing neocon hell bent on taking over the planet to make himself feel like a King!
Couldn’t resist a tribute to Arlo
Go look at the MyDD page the upper left and right corners have graphics, which change daily, showing the two GE races polling at present.
Me?
I’ll stick with Jerome on this one.
Believe it or not, I got that from Glenn Beck. He calls his listeners that and it’s the only part of his show I agree with. LOL
i found it. (at least i think it did).
gotta say, if i just watched the correct video, and boy do i hate to say this, but i think wingnuts might have a point - the dnc ad doesn’t reflect what mccain really said (which was bad enough).
what do you-all think?
Yep, here’s the “full” quote from FactCheck’s website:
Of course, as many people have pointed out, McCain fails to give us the context of HOW we get to the point where “Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed”. He and his Neocon buddies have no clue of how we will ever get to that point, so I think that keeps his comments in the realm of advocating endless war. Also, do you think he would keep the troops in a non-combat status if he thought al Quaeda was “training, recruiting and equipping and motivating people every single day” there?
That is my take.
I’m dismayed that people in this day and age have to try to “take out” somebody with BS…
I am dismayed that we have come no further in our evolution than to seek and destroy…and kill..and go to war…and destroy peoples’ reputations…and demonize people who don’t look like “us”…no matter who we are….
I’m just beginning to accept that real peace and goodwill in the world won’t happen in my lifetime….
BTW…4 pending dead soldiers in Iraq.
It is the highest loss of soldiers since September….Goddess help us….
The RNC is really losing its grip over the new DNC ad of John McCain making his “100 years” in Iraq comment. I don’t quite know how, but a clip of John McCain uttering this statement himself is supposed to be “false and defamatory.” They’re demanding CNN and MSNBC not run it.
I bet the GOP has polling on this statement by McCain. I bet the Polling sucks we need to repeat this OVER AND OVER AGAIN UNTIL ELECTION DAY.
I forget who Jon Stewart was interviewing but he (Stewart) was saying that Bush likes to pose as a “I’ll fight you any time, any where (as long as I choose the weapons, the playing field, and write the rules). Goopers want to choose who they are running against.
The 100 year thing is a testimony to McBush and how he approaches issues. If he wanted to say that he supports long term US presence in Iraq- that would require a lengthy build up, explanation, and some qualifying. Instead he just blurts it out. Should be a very good predictor of what kind of president he would be..
READY—FIRE—-AIM!
I thought that the whole goal of the surge was so that we could get out. That’s what it was “sold” as…to allow enough space for there to be political reconciliation and then the Iraqi Army could “step up”. Thyen we could leave. That’s the “bill of goods” Bush pushed.
And now McCain is asserting we’re gonna be there 100 years?
It really doesn’t matter if the troops are there under fire or not…it’s absurd.
Furthermore, I recall that Congress has, several times, voted AGAINST the establishment of permanent bases in Iraq. So where, precisely, is this interest in remaining present permanently and perpetually in Iraq?
He said “100 Years in Iraq”.
And maybe if he clarified things a bit more for us, since he never REALLY said how long he would accept troops being there FIGHTING? Two more years, five, twenty? If the level of conflict doesn’t abate to, say, five a month…in a year…would he withdraw. What level is TOO MUCH..since he seems to, in his statement, think that “peace” is the condition for REMAINING. How much war would be the condition for DEPARTING?
OH yes. The “volatile part of the world” is volatile because of the right wing American Taliban (GOP) presence there!
Yep. He’s very contradictory as you pointed out. ;-)
Sorry I did not see any adverse reaction or “head exploding” as you say.
The DNC add against McCain was a poor choice and weak.
1950’s…He is living in another reality….
Stuck.
i think that’s a fair analysis - but that’s not what he actually said, which is what the dnc ad purports to show.
I think that the American public is sick of “endless war” and those who pay attention know that Bush’s game is to have no end game. Endless war.
To say we’ll stay forever as long as we don’t get hurt is just plain stupid, tone deaf, and he DID say it. All by his little self. Either context is against the will of the american people. IMHO.
ack, glenn beck. we should come up with an acronym for him as the mere sight of his name is bile inducing
We need to get McCain to explain his Secret Plan for victory in Iraq. We need McCain to explain why he thinks he can win when Bush could not. We need the press to start covering Iraq again.
Here’s the other thing “I don’t care if it’s 100 years”
Well then do you care if it’s only four years? Two years? What fuck DO you care about…
As president you wouldn’t be sittin around how you felt about things like that- you’d be DECIDING.
I don’t think McBush has the faintest idea how to be president.
Well, you beat me to that one by a long shot. I’m just too slow typing these days.
Stealing a line from a friend:
*Touches clown nose sadly…