The WaPo's Dana Milbank lets us know about a family that wanted the world to see their son, husband and father laid to rest -- but was thwarted by the Pentagon:
Lt. Col. Billy Hall, one of the most senior officers to be killed in the Iraq war, was laid to rest yesterday at Arlington National Cemetery. It's hard to escape the conclusion that the Pentagon doesn't want you to know that.
The family of 38-year-old Hall, who leaves behind two young daughters and two stepsons, gave their permission for the media to cover his Arlington burial -- a decision many grieving families make so that the nation will learn about their loved ones' sacrifice. But the military had other ideas, and they arranged the Marine's burial yesterday so that no sound, and few images, would make it into the public domain.
That's a shame, because Hall's story is a moving reminder that the war in Iraq, forgotten by much of the nation, remains real and present for some. Among those unlikely to forget the war: 6-year-old Gladys and 3-year-old Tatianna. The rest of the nation, if it remembers Hall at all, will remember him as the 4,011th American service member to die in Iraq, give or take, and the 419th to be buried at Arlington. Gladys and Tatianna will remember him as Dad.
The two girls were there in Section 60 yesterday beside grave 8,672 -- or at least it appeared that they were from a distance. Journalists were held 50 yards from the service, separated from the mourning party by six or seven rows of graves, and staring into the sun and penned in by a yellow rope. Photographers and reporters pleaded with Arlington officials.
"There will be a yellow rope in the face of the next of kin," protested one photographer with a large telephoto lens.
"This is the best shot you're going to get," a man from the cemetery replied.
"We're not going to be able to hear a thing," a reporter argued.
"Mm-hmm," an Arlington official answered.
This is part of the Bush team's strategy of doing their level best to hide the true costs of their war of choice from us. It's not just funerals that BushCo wants kept out of our sight. Here's some of what they're trying to hide:
-- The sight of the dead and wounded -- on both the US and Iraqi sides.
-- Honest and widespread reporting of the continuing bombing campaigns conducted by the US in Iraq (as Siun has mentioned many times, such as here).
-- The fact that a big fat bright line can be drawn from our crappy economic situation straight to the trillions spent in Iraq.
-- The fact that gas at the pump has doubled in price since the invasion and will keep getting more expensive, not less. (This, by the way, is the opposite of what the Bushies promised would happen back in 2002.)
The Bushies want Americans to think that the war doesn't really affect them. But it does, and it's our job to point this out, over and over again. There have been some efforts in the mainstream press (such as this one), but they're few and far between compared to stuff on the order of "The surge is working!" and "Petraeus is God".
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Good Morning PW…. now to read the post ;)
HA!
A lapel pin for all. Since the magnetic yellow ribbons have run their course, it’s time for something new.
Thank you PW. The numbskulls currently “in charge” of how things are done could not possibly be more wrong. They will pay, one way or another.
That picture showing the yellow rope will speak volumes about this horrid administration. They will NOT be allowed any place to hide their evil deeds.
A parent called in to KPHX radio show “About Face” hosted by the veterans for peace stated their son was going on their 5th deployment to Iraq….
Kid employees at chain grocery store overheard one telling the other that he got a raise….. “a nickel?!” ….. “you got a nickel raise?!” where the other nearly fell down with laughter….. ya a nickel more an hour for a young man …..not going to pay for a lot of gas with that!
On my two mile walk around my neighborhood (usual route) there are 10 homes for sale….. two have been empty and for sale for over a year…..
Please don’t shut out us whites for Obama. We gave him 4 votes from this household, and we will again. Our next door neighbor has Obama sign up. We want one.
I have noticed fewer of the Made In China ribbons on the Hummers lately. And why don’t I see the (in)famous W04 stickers anymore? It’s been months since I’ve seen one of those suckers.
Milbank is a little late to the party.
Maybe if he took the Downing Street Memos a little more seriously, there might be fewer dead in Arlington.
He doesn’t offer much on KO, either.
Keith can do much better.
I see both here in AZ….. usually the W04 stickers are on really BIG SUV’s and likely to run you off the road with the attitude that they own all of it…
My best was a encounter with a driver of a W04 car…. she beat me to a parking space and as I got out of my car….. I asked her…. “so what do you think of your boy?” pointing to the sticker…… it was huff huff ….. “just bought the car and haven’t had time to remove it”….. hahahaha
I laughed the other day, I sad a Rudy O8 sticker that looked like the W04 sticker.
PW. Am I wrong? To me, there’s a horrible stench caused by the quick promotion of the general pet. right after he rolled over and showed his belly for the administration. It screams, “liar, toady, fake, do NOT believe ANYTHING this hollow shell proclaims!”
Hey PW, OT:
Just saw Pat Buchanon on MSNBC still spouting that old saw that Pawlenty is a viable VP candidate for McBush because, “He will deliver Minnesota.” I’ve gotta laugh. He barely eecked out a win against Hatch and wouldn’t have if Hatch’s Lt. Gov candidate would have known what E85 was. And, our bridges have had a propensity for falling down lately. Would Minnesota really support the pencil neck geek in a national effort? I don’t think so, but I have an obvious liberal bias.
Like many, Im one who opposed the war from the beginning. I have to say, in part, because I never could understand what W had in mind, ie. his argument. All that to say….yes, this is the way we honor our dead. Is McShame protesting this secrecy, hypocrisy, desecration of life and service? Let them rest in peace….comfort to their families. Tears for our country and what we are doing.
Another hidden cost, as spelled out by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees - Iraq:
And what’s it like over in Syria right now, for those refugees? Again from the UNHCR:
Click through for more.
PW, I saw this article when it came out. I continue to be amazed at the lengths the administration will go to sanitize this fiasco. I also notice a conspicuous silence from Condi von Ribbentrop since her pronouncements last weekend. Perhaps she’s out shopping for a bigger shovel. That will match her 7-inch spikes, of course.
Here is yet another example of the Bush Administration hidding the costs. The Administration gives money to contractors rather than properly house soldiers.
There are a very few around us, almost all on B.I.G. suvs. The drivers usually look a little anxious and keep their eyes fixed straight ahead, if they can. But they do get stared at by a lot of folk, many sneering, most glaring.
I’ve still got my “Don’t Blame Me. I voted Democratic!” sticker in the drawer. Now is definitely the time to haul it out and slap it on that bumper.
Here is a page telling about the day that Gold Star Mothers and Vietnam Veterans were locked out of Arlington. After this service the Mothers and an Honor Guard hoped to lay memorial wreath but officials decided against it and slammed the gates in our faces. I’ll never forget how that felt and how badly some of us wanted to go over that fence. Cooler heads prevailed and the next day, when we returned, we were allowed in.
Thank you for sharing that, Raven. Very moving service.
Thank you for coming back, in every sense of the word.
You help us stay tough.
LOL. I work with a couple of dyed-in-the-wool Bushites. I ask them that same question and get pretty much the same response you did, “huff, huff, well, um, er, he’s done a lot for the economy, um, er…” I laugh in their face and walk away. I’m going to have to keep an eye on ‘em now that we have the right to take guns to work law here. Man, oh man. Florida’s economy is in the tank and the legislature, in the once a year 60 day session, took up bills to teach creationism in schools, take guns to work, create a Christian license plate, and ban same sex marriage, to name a few. The next state elections are gonna be interesting.
Ugh, I’m still pissed. (I’m just to the right of the mom in the photo with my hands on my knees).
dunno whether to laugh or cry for ya’.
Kudos from OH for yer stamina and smarts! ;->
Good on ya.
That is so sick. Are they doing anything to assure honest voting?
WOW… sounds just like the AZ legislature…. how about the guns in schools bill where a state senator said that “kindergartener’s were sitting ducks”
Again the defining marriage EVEN though it is written into our state consitution one man & one woman …… which was put in there for the FLDS folks up in Colorado city and NOT to prevent gay marriage as some idiots might think… or my state senator with the guns in bars bill … ya sounds so smart….. alcohol and guns in the same place
was just googling the Gold Star families -
Body of War - documentary about veteran Thomas Young
there is a segment where he is at dc protest and encounters Gold Star families - their need to reach out and touch Thomas is beyond heartbreaking (can’t even type about it without tearing up)
A very nice post. For almost all of us, this has been a “war” without sacrifice, but it turns out we can’t toss the whole burden to our grandkids after all.
Most of us here at the lake didn’t want this war, but now it looks like we are gonna start paying for it more and more.
something else that’s being hidden.
i read kevin phillips’ new article in harpers, “Numbers racket:
Why the economy is worse than we know” this morning. he writes about the history of the fed gov cooking the books on unemployment and also inflation and gdp.
he claims that if the measures used to monitor our economy just 25 years ago were used today, our current numbers would be:
unemployment - “9 to 12 percent”
inflation - “as high as 7 or even 10 percent”
for context read part 4 of bernhard’s “fed rate cuts kill people“
This administration, its war and the Surveillance State it has spawned are built on lies. It cannot afford to let the truth in, no matter how many more lies it must tell to avoid it.
As wrenching as it would be for any family in the midst of grief, the only way to get its message out is to invite a small group of reporters - not paparazzi - to speak with them before or after the burial. To share their memorabilia and their memories in remembrance and protest. The point is not to make it harder on them. It’s to make it harder on the majority of Americans who are paying no price, but for a moment’s delay on the roads of Arlington as the funeral procession passes by.
Apart from the family’s pain, we must acknowledge the peer and administrative pressure this administration would not hesitate to impose on any such brave family, still hoping to find out where and why their relative died, where their effects are, and when and how much of the many trailing costs left behind will be paid or taken care of. Retribution, the pettier the better, is Dick Cheney’s stock-in-trade.
Cheney/Bush have not witnessed or officiated at a single military funeral in Arlington of any member of the armed forces killed in connection with their wars in Afghanistan or Iraq. By presidential motorcade, Arlington National Cemetery is five minutes from the White House.
from your link:
bless the musing comrades and all those who are made to suffer.
Appreciate the photo. I can feel the heat from here.
I mopped yer brow for ya. Thank you for being there.
I guess the one thing we have is being stubborn.
They can’t take that away.
These people *have* no concept of honor or decency.
This Administration is stocked with individuals who avoided service in ‘Nam and held up by military brass who can stomach them for a time in the interest of personal advancement.
shhhh, speak not of such things, Laura doesn’t like if we talk bad about her sweet Georgie. and the vibes may put wrinkles in Jenna’s Oscar de la Renta or whateva gown.
George Bush wanted to be president in the worst way. And he is.
left a couple epu’ed comments at the end of the last thread…support your local food bank, be prepared to support it more….
It’s so difficult. Many people become more supportive of the war because they don’t want their love one to have died in vain. It took me 20 years to write to the parents of one of my good friends that was killed and I still felt it was necessary to tiptoe around how I felt about the war, not him. A matter of respect I guess. I guess when I dedicated my dissertation to him and sent a copy of it to them they read how I really felt since it was part of my “theoretical frameowrk”.
W is a sadist, he laughed at TX death row….that is who he is. Laura lied when she said things about him crying that young men had to go to war. He sent them there like toy soldiers he was truly “toying” with. He is without conscience. That must not be very comforting to families who grieve, but it may be worse to have to endure his cruel, lying presence.
I read the story the other day and thought it was pointless fo the Pentagon to do this as many other soldiers are buried in community or private cemmetaries around the country and they are covered by the local, state, or national press.
On the otherhand it does draw unfavoralbe attention to this stupid practice.
So, basically, they offer a couple of cardboard turkeys.
That won’t do it.
HOW can they not know that? How can they not care?
I doubt they’ve heard their last “BOOOOOO!!!!” from an audience.
Now, about that impeachment table….
A little tribute to all the warmongers in our nation who sit at their computers hailing the killing of people in other lands and refusing to sign up to serve the country they say they love:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7oM8QXdp8wU
That is a hard point to decide around. How do you define died-in-vain? And how many more need die so the others haven’t died-in-vain? We have to say enough, we don’t need more widows or fatherless/motherless children, or broken-hearted parents
OT for folks who were talking about musicians…Salon is featuring a bio about Dylan. Looks interesting; I did not read the piece.
Gov Crist is a moderate R and has done some things in the right direction. FL has constitutionally prevented ex-felons from voting since just after the Civil War. Strictly a Jim Crow device to keep African-Americans from voting. Jeb Bush did all he could to ensure than NO African-American voted in the state of Florida. Ever. Crist simplified the process for returning civil rights until the provision in the constitution can be repealed. The right wing legislature won’t help him, though. Electronic voting machines are history. The legislature voted to move up the primary (which has sorta been mentioned in the news) and it would not have passed if the R’s hadn’t agreed to add the paper ballot requirement. Most counties bought new machines before the 04 election against the wishes of the citizens. The offices of the election supervisors were so mesmerized by the bright new shiny electronic objects that they foisted them upon the public. The Jennings fiasco in Sarasota county was the death knell for electronic voting here. Those are the only two improvements we’ve seen in the system in years. The state is controlled by a few wealthy people of influence. They play the fundies and right wingnuts like a violin so they get what they want. It’s gonna be a hard struggle but even some of the wingnuts see the light at the end of the tunnel and realize it’s definitely an oncoming train.
Someday, 5 years, 10 or 20 from now, Dubya will have a funeral fit for a president.
Turns your stomach doesn’t it?
A recent Economist magazine outlined a reason-vs-intuition decision making process, plus the use of a decoy to influence the outcome. For instance:
Recently, President Carter was visiting Palestine in the interests of peace.
Then comes the decoy, when Condi Rice said, President Carter was warned not to make the trip … immediately compromising President Carter’s peace effort.
Reason tells us Carter’s trip was damn near essential to the peace process.
OTOH the Condi Rice decoy awakens intuition and lazy thinking that makes us question Carter’s trip.
The most powerful lobby in the land, the MSM, uses these damn decoys constantly in furtherance of their X-Crowd agenda.
hope he has to pay the going rate….
i’d rather ask the question - what does it mean not to have lived in vain?
I must go now, pups. Thank you for all the shared thoughts. This is one strong, caring community. Stay strong and safe…
wow - that is perfect description of a local Gold Star mom (her only child!)
and one of 3 our little town has lost
she wrote a long pro surge piece in local paper expressing that very sentiment - debated for some time as to whether to respond or not and finally decided against it for all kinds of obvious reasons but primarily out of respect and sensitivity to her grief and sacrifice - simply hugged her when she came in our place a few weeks later
To all those who drive F U V ’s ,HA.
Otherwise what we need is a constitutional amendment to absolutely insure a nosey press exposes all a corrupt administration would try to hide. That’s it let’s have a FREE PRESS…..
That’s very good.
novel idea…
If the media had any honor, [how’s that for a false predicate?] they would report as endlessly on this as oh-say-Howard Fineman shooting off his mouth on MSNBC about Rev. Wright again.
So wrong, the media are so off the scale wrong…so few shining lights among ‘em.
Going out to cope with the blizzard now. Stay warm, pups, keep the fires of democracy burnin’.
Thank you for the background. The Fla vote is so seared in my memory. My daughter was expecting a first grandchild, and we watched the chads, etc etc etc. Then I will never forget the day when Fla stopped the count; that catch 22 when counting hadn’t been allowed, I think, but then was done too late…something like that. Such a nightmare. I do not recall, even thru Watergate, feeling so cynical about our country, and that vote was only the beginning. Good luck in the Fla struggle. Then there’s always K. Harris. She too will live on; mostly because of SNL. Here we had a local commentator, Im really not his fan, but his take on KH on the first day was that she had to get her hair and makeup done before she could make any comments. He nailed her from the 1st second, even when no one here knew much about her. She had her 15 mins, for sure. Thanks again.
Same here in Athens. That’s why I enjoy reading “An Army of Dude”. The DUDE has his head on straight.
In fact, my friends death was a great part of the motivation of this high school dropout to get a doctorate.
are there legal implications if a station actually does start publishing pictures and stories?
it’s really about time the press stopped respecting these types of orders from this administration, they are destroying this nation and the press has every business reporting this news to our country, that is the only reason they are a free press in the first place
I may have missed it: what was your dissertation topic and when did you write it?
then you are part of his living legacy.
It’s hard to imagine a greater tribute.
Tools to fight the “good” battles.
i’m a little behind you-all as i just watched (actually listened to) bill moyers with jeremiah wright this morning. very, very moving. wish i could have been in wright’s church the sunday after 911, that was a sermon my soul needed to hear (at least judging from the bit of it that i heard from moyer’s). does anyone know if the entire sermon is available anywhere? i haven’t even started looking, though someone here might already have it.
think progress always seems to put something up right on topic as if they are waiting for the right post from the lake
today is no exception to this coincidence;
I wonder how bitter the pro-war Gold Star Mothers and fathers are going to be when they grow older. Or can they maintain the facade that their child died for a good cause the rest of their lives?
Our community radio station is working on showing “Body of War” at the Tampa Theatre, complete with an appearance by Tomas Young. One of our morning show programmers did a lengthy interview with him and it broke everybody’s heart.
No justice, no peace.
I don’t know this for sure, but I think the sermons are kept at the church webpage.
I make sure lots of people know there’s a war going on. Hundreds of thousands of them, every day.
holy cow, I love the new “show text” feature, I don’t have to go back and revue what’s being commented on and I don’t have to read the comment if I don’t want to
very very nice, kudos
I do believe edit post might be comming back some time soon when I see features like this added
well well done
freewayblooger, always a great pleasure to see you here, I love your work and your website
Thanks PW.
Thanks Raven.
found it (i think): complete audio of wright’s 911 sermon.
also, does anyone have a jstor subscription? this is an article i really want to read.
Encountering the Other: Evangelicalism and Terrorism in a Post 911 World
from wikipedia:
If at all possible watch it online just for the videos of Rev Wright’s sermons. The words speak for themselves but seeing them is a whole different ball of wax.
Thank you for your work.
I’m voting for the Democratic nominee for President and consider myself a “big tent,” type. But yesterday, I sent $25 to Golub, who is running against Pelosi in the June primary. Then I called Nancy’s office and told her why I sent Golub the money and that I was prepared to send more.
I’ve posted it before but still think this is an important speech to hear.
Believing the Unbelievable: The Clash Between Faith and Reason in the Modern World; A speech by Sam Harris.
i have the video podcast - was just trying to get some house chores done while listening. ended up standing in the middle of the kitchen barely wanting to breath during wright’s sermon though. wow.
will definitely plan to watch it later. thanks.
Yeah, that was some powerful stuff. I was so mesmerized I let a cigarette burn down to my fingers. Hadn’t moved a muscle until I noticed something was burning me. Scared the hell out of the tigers.
Someone needs to get the names of these disrespectful Republican clowns.
This is the equivalent of spitting on the coffins of the fallen.
Qualitative study of High School GED graduates. Why they quit, why they went back and the meaning they attached to the experience.
well, back to the chores and then hopefully some time in the garden. catch you all later…
1,824 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Phoenix Woman and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
This is a most important post and VERY well written. It places the death of one soldier into the greater context of the meaning of this war and as part of the shared experience of war by all the powerless people effected by it…including all Americans who are not linear relatives of the families of the oligarchy who profit from this crime against humanity.
This is what we citizens need to be doijn’…we need to be shovin’ stories like this in front of everyone and especially in front of our elected Democrats at ALL levels. I wonder if ya couldn’t advance your post to Keith Olbermann’s staff and catapult it into one of his front page stories a special comment. Most importantly, however, we MUST put the heat on our elected leadership to make this story and the greater issue of the war the ONLY political issue from here on out in this election cycle.
We must use this story to force the Democratic Party to call the fascist bluff and defend this war in this supplemental war spendin’ bill. Our congressional leadership, in both the Senate and the House, are preparin’ to cave in on the war supplemental which will effectively get Mrs. McClinton off the hook in the primary and make it hard for Obama to make the war the central issue in the fall campaign. In addition, the fascists with the complicity of the Democratic leadership are fixin ta attach telecom immunity to the supplemental. This is it, Firepups, this is our last chance ta make the war and the deaths of ALL the innocents mean somethin’
KEEP THE FASITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THE FIGHT IS ON!!
Hello, everyone! Sorry I’m late. Had some errands to run.
Yep….
Things are not so good here in ‘God’s Country….’
Maybe we can convince him to go ’save’ someone else….
Or at least convince the army of scamsters ’selling’ the idea of ‘God’ to STFU!
It’s a Mafia-style ‘bust-out’. Our economy is being hollowed out from the inside by Bush’s buddies.
Selise, I believe I know where you are coming from with your statement and it is a good one. The people promoting this Iraq war use the Died-in-Vain to whip the opposition, essentailly makes us cut & runners. I rather say to the people who use this against the war oppostion that it isn’t a question that should be put to us but to the folks in the administration who started the war. It is question for Bush to be answerable for not us. We want soldiers to able to live a life that is theirs not Bush’s.
Thanks for this, Peterr. As bad as it is in Syria, it’s paradise compared to Jordan, which is on the verge of collapse because of the tremendous number of Iraqi refugees flooding this tiny country.
With all due respect, Phoenix Woman, I do not believe there is (at this time) a bright line that can be drawn from our current economic recession to the war and occupation in Iraq. While it is a potentially powerful idea for the Democrats to advance politically, it’s poor economics. There may be transmission routes by which the war and occupation in Iraq makes the economic crisis worse - or, more difficult from which to emerge - but spending in Iraq is not the cause of our current difficulties. Were one to choose a single cause, I think it would be more accurate to point to that which led to the Big Shitpile (tm Atrios). See Krugman, Dean Baker, and Mother Jones, for example.
I was a HS grad but opted for the Navy versus college in 61. I came out of the bush in May 70 to the stories and photos of Kent State. Except for brief periods I’d been in Nam since August 67 and now suddenly a bright light came on. I needed no longer to be doing what I was doing. I needed to further my education. I needed to take my life in another direction. My closest friend in Nam committed suicide in 76. That led me to the mental health field and, ultimately to the VA.
That also perfectly describes Bush, the unacknowledged alcoholic who obsessively keeps driving down the same dirt road at ever higher speed, no matter how many Dead End signs he passes by.
It’s a tribute to him and you brother.
It’s ordinarily called “embezzlement”. When you’ve co-opted the judiciary and the legislature, it’s called a “different priorities”. Something progressives have to hit McSame hard on; his reinforce and worsen those set in train by Shrub.
At some point, someone is still going to have to ask that Gold Star mother what resolution to the conflict/occupation will mean her son will not have “died in vain.”
Otherwise, all she is doing is condemning other mothers to that same pain and hell that she has gone through.
Well said.
Cost of tax cuts for the rich..3 trillion $. Cost of war 3 trillion $. You decide the best direction for the USA.
Curious, what was your reaction the VA muffing the suicide attempt numbers?
I’m not so sure. I wish you were right but I don’t know.
Just got a solicitation from the DNCC, and I wrote that I would contribute when they quit funding the war in Iraq. Isn’t that why they were elected in ‘06. Now the republicans can (rightly) say that the dems are liars.
Gee, that sounds like a six trillion dollar hit to the federal budget and taxpayers’ wallets. The re-engineering of the federal government and the theft of taxpayer resources are likely to be consistent themes described in the legacy that is George Bush. His truth telling or acumen as a war leader? Not so much.
Hi PhoenixWoman. The treatment of LTC Hall’s family is another example of how this Administration “manages” the public perception of this war’s costs. They don’t make us pay for it, they hide the caskets, they lie about the suicides, and they keep the cameras away from the grieving families whenever they can.
Sam Stone
by John Prine
Sam Stone came home,
To the wife and family
After serving in the conflict overseas.
And the time that he served,
Had shattered all his nerves,
And left a little shrapnel in his knees.
But the morhpine eased the pain,
And the grass grew round his brain,
And gave him all the confidence he lacked,
With a purple heart and a monkey on his back.
There’s a hole in daddy’s arm where all the money goes,
Jesus Christ died for nothin I suppose.
Little pitchers have big ears,
Don’t stop to count the years,
Sweet songs never last too long on broken radios.
Sam Stone’s welcome home
Didn’t last too long.
He went to work when he’d spent his last dime
And soon he took to stealing
When he got that empty feeling
For a hundred dollar habit without overtime.
And the gold roared through his veins
Like a thousand railroad trains,
And eased his mind in the hours that he chose,
While the kids ran around wearin’ other peoples’ clothes…
There’s a hole in daddy’s arm where all the money goes,
Jesus Christ died for nothin I suppose.
Little pitchers have big ears,
Don’t stop to count the years,
Sweet songs never last too long on broken radios.
Sam Stone was alone
When he popped his last balloon,
Climbing walls while sitting in a chair.
Well, he played his last request,
While the room smelled just like de