Your quarrel seems to be with representative democracy. You cannot have citizen directed government AND representative democracy. You can have one or the other. Take our current situation. The Iraq war is supposedly hugely unpopular. The Dems won mightily in 2006, yet nothing changed. Do you think the citizen’s only hope is to raise money and offer our representatives more than MBNA? The problem, of course, is how do millions of citizens decide anything?

It is increasingly clear capitalism is unsustainable. Not only because of the various interlocking obligations (derivatives) which go unmet as one or another party defaults, but because capitalism cannot regulate a rapidly evolving technological society. There is no way enough jobs can be created to satisfy everyone who wants one and there is the cultural lag imposed by our protecting our job although it is clear our job is detrimental to our health (ie building internal combustion engines) Analysis becomes easier when you realize we have been driven crazy by inferiority and the fact of death. We think we avoid death by agreeing we have eternal life. To retain our delusion, we kill lots of people and sometimes get killed ourselves.

Jefferson gave America clear guidance. It is time we listen to him. His forewarnings where foreboding! The constitution given to America by learned men is the mechanism of change. Is is time for the American People to exercise the rights duties and obligations, given to us by the solemn sacrifices and sacred honors pledged of men, given to the republic Not corporate entities, lacking blood, love or life……….

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation,. the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people.”

Jefferson’s was even more fearful and forewarned of a “rising corporate aristocracy,” enabled by the legal entity known as the “corporations,” in which said aristocracy would work perpetually using the color of law to usurp constitutional checks and balances, in the quest for endless profit!

Tiger meds and check lids for light leaks.

Peace Love Light

They certainly can’t refute his logic on a Christian level.

no, they can’t.

maybe that was why it was so important to make him toxic – to try to prevent people in the christian right from listening for themselves.

thanks again for the abc links – both of them.

i’m still in awe of his 911 sermon – he gave that one just 5 days later? amazing. i’ve listened several times now.

will try to listen to the second wright sermon either tonight or tomorrow morning. hope to compare notes with you later on it.

Hillary was up by 20 points in Penn., but won by just under 10 – basically half, right? Newsweeks story title ? “Clinton Wins Pennsylvania: What’s Next? Winner. Hillary wins.
vs.
Obama was “up by double digits in national polls” -according to Newsweek.
I never saw numbers that high, but for purposes of their article they want you to believe that, OK? Now, based on their own new poll Obama is still winning still but he too is down to about half. Newsweeks story? “Losing Ground”. Loser. Obama looses.

Good job, Howard.
But the Newseeks vernacular

Back to this FDL’s column, I ask in answer to it, what if they are watching -closely….and money IS now everything …and in front of your very eyes they’re stomping on the constitution and no-one can or will do a f***ing thing about it??

That’s what the past 8 years has revealed. No one’s home anymore, and very few really care anymore. What we saw in Iraq once the government was gone, is going on here in America right now, but in a more civilized way.

The scent of money in the air caused the current crop of Congressional Democratic leaders to drop the weapons we voters gave them in November of 06, and turn around and join in on the looting of America, and Americans.
They took the riches made ‘by the people’. and used them not ‘for the people’, as was intended. But for themselves.

Furthermore they’ve allowed the decks to be so stacked in favor of keeping ‘the’ people down, any efforts to correct their errors are met with new walls of regulations and excuses..

Like the new bankruptcy bill both Clinton and Edwards wrote. Note the massive numbers of new people who’ve filed BK??
(And screw Hillary’s excuse ‘it wasn’t passed’ – it eventually did pass -with their amendments in it.) One of the worst was that they actually had the balls to strip out of the old bill a judge’s right to hold back a pending eviction due to a financial crisis. You can’t pay? F*** you.

People, don’t think your Congressman isn’t guilty by not actually signing on to much of what has happened here. They are more so, by keeping silent, and watching while the others raped this country.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit…..-bama.html

I’ve listened to the entire 9/11 audio and I find it hard to believe that real Christians weren’t at ABC’s doors with torches and pitchforks. I’m just getting ready to listen to the other sermon. His use of the Bible as an historical context for his social ills sermons is amazing. I am really impressed with his rhetoric. I would imagine that what he says is a bitter pill to swallow for the self-righteous Christian right. They certainly can’t refute his logic on a Christian level.

Bush disdains government when it pays for un-co-opted judges and prosecutors that hold CongressCritters and aides to Vice Presidents liable for their criminal excesses. He loves government when he can use those public payroll-funded prosecutors to drive prominent Democratic governors from office.

Mr. Bush is most happy when he can use the government’s authority to take your money, your privacy, your lives, if need be – to meet his needs. He’s most unhappy at the prospect that government might use that same authority to meet truly collective needs, such as for universal health insurance. That shuts off the money tap to his insurance friends, and makes workers less dependent on their employers for the needs of life.

Mr. Bush is the quintessential representative of the company owner who runs the company town and runs the company store, whose employees live in company housing and whose kids go to company schools. That’s the 19th century model for mill, mine and factory. With few exceptions, such as Hershey’s, that arrangement worked only for the owner, and only until an employee slipped or fell or got old or broken. Then they or their family were out in the cold living or dying in some Dickensian nightmare. Like the longterm unemployed and uninsured are doing every day in Bush’s America.

George Bush is not competent at much. He is extraordinarily competent at sending public money wherever his lobbyists want it and in avoiding liability for everything. If that makes middle America lose heart in what their government can do for them, so much the better. But government won’t go away. It won’t lose its power or authority. It will just work solely in the interests of Mr. Bush and the haves. And they’re just fine with that.