So!

I havelong believed that she has some sort of disorder that renders her incapable of operating in the reality as we know it. I don’t make a habit of reading her slop anymore as I realized that my IQ was taking a hit everytime I did.

Does Nooner drink herself sick every night, wishing we could turn the country over to right-wing traitors like Henry Ford

She probably rejoices that we turned the country over to right-wing traitors named Bush and Cheney.

Ah, yes. Henry Effing Ford. One of the few good things he did (sponsoring old-time stringband music festivals), he did for the wrong reasons: Because he hated jazz — that urban product of blacks and Jews — with a passion.

She was channelling Wes Pegler.

But he was a good american and to point out that he was a anti-semite, racist jackass that he was will make any american true american cry (/snark)

(Pictured: Peggy Noonan’s hero receiving a Nazi medal in Nazi Germany from the Nazis.)

The question is, does this make Ms. Noonan proud of America?

I don’t wear a flag pin. Don’t own one.

Hey BT, just thanks,
I love to scoff at Peggy

I don’t think most people even know who she is. It’s all about HER anyway.

I have a Nixon Now pin

(Pictured: Peggy Noonan’s hero receiving a Nazi medal in Nazi Germany from the Nazis.)

The question is, does this make Ms. Noonan proud of America?

She’s Peggy F*ckin’ Noonan! of course she loves America, we should all love America the way she does.
Can I have my martini now?

She isn’t worth the time to comment.

And Nooner calling Obama snooty? She of the nose in the air, holier than thou tone of voice calling Obama snooty?

You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.

I love to read stuff like this. It means the right is running scared. “Oh dear, the world is changing. Please make it stop. I do not want a new generation to run/ruin my pretty little world.”

I don’t either but I have a plethora of stuff that has the brasilian flag all over it (t-shirts, flip flops, bikini, etc.)

What did you say?

Nooner lost it years ago- she’s operating on fumes as the memories of her past glories ferment in her bowels and drift up to her brain.

Her best was her comments on the Shiavo case….

Obama’s maternal Grandfather…the one who raised him…was a WWII vet, and his Grandmother made parts for WWII…

So, how dare Noonan challenge what Obama thinks, what he has cried over during his life, or what he was taught at the knee of “his” Grandfather??

Sometimes the outrageous way she writes makes me think she’s trying to be snarky or something. Perhaps that is why she used the Henry Ford reference….her article actually shows how absurd questioning Obama’s love of America that way is.

I just don’t get it.

Maybe she meant George Washington Carver? /snark

Nooner is just providing the preview of what she thinks the best line of gooper attack will be in the fall…It’s not too valuable because her political judgement actually SUCKS. She was a speech writer- not a political strategist. Not even the goopers are going to pay any attention to her advice.

Peggy Noonan should be wondering if Obama bush Loves America, Has he Ever Cried Thinking About Henry Ford the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi’s?

That’s better.

there is a great scene in the show, Family guy, where the main character Peter comes in on an elephant. He says to his wife.

Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change.

Sums up the repug party perfectly

Does anyone believe that Nooner cried while thinking about Henry Ford- her schmaltz easily goes so far over the top that it boils up like projectile vomiting.

Noonan is writing what is expected of her. She’s a good god fearing authoritarian rich fascist. She hasn,t lost it, she knows exactly what she’s doing. She’s like Gonzo or Yoo, only less powerful and more idiotic…

Thank you for identifying a specific bit of political trollery.

Noonan, political hack and participant in the Bush administration disregard and decimation of American principles, goes on the record as saying flag pins are important.

The correct response, which the MSM does not provide to a protected member of the Village or in its willing participation in the GOP’s effort to ignore issues in favor of Bright Shiny Objects, is:

“What the fuck, are you crazy?”

Peggy Noonan should be wondering if Obama bush Loves America, Has he Ever Cried Thinking About Henry Ford the hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi’s?

Ah hell, we know Little Boots cares nothing about the hundreds of thousands of dead Irakis. It’s questionable if he’s ever cried about the thousands of US troops killed and injured in his misbegotten adventurism. Most likely the only thing he’s ever cried over was spilling a beer.

John McCain — descendant of slave owners on that family plantation in Ol’ Mississippi….

DNC is now running an anti-McBush ad- the theme “He doesn’t have a clue”

It shows him making glib statements about how we’re better off than we were eight years ago with chirons in the background showing that every thing is says is just WRONG (unemployment, average income, etc.)

So maybe this is the campaign…

The guy who doesn’t love american vs. the guy who doesn’t have a clue.

Who wins THAT battle? Stay tuned.

Most likely the only thing he’s ever cried over was spilling a beer.

Darn it, Dakine. You beat me to it.

or the dead americans in new orleans

… which is another way of saying, Peggy, that virtually no black person can ever be president. Look I’m white. But it occurs to me that if my ancestors were brought here in chains and treated -by law – as second class until recently in many plcaes, that my love for this country might somehow be different from what it as a grandchild of people who came here because they wanted to and as one who really hasn’t had doors closed to him (and worse). Why is that hard to get?

He didn’t cry over that cause Cheney told him that they volunteered.

Or those who perished on 9-11, giving bush an excuse for the not so excellent war adventures he’s been on ever since.

I knew the frat boy type in college. Unfortunately, they’re pretty much the same all over.

And look, not to disrespect the the Wright bros, but when I think of inspirational Americans, I don’t think of them. Or that anti-union prick Ford. Now that guy with tne pony tail that invented Oxyclean, HE’S an inspiration.

Well, yeah, but that doesn’t apply to Obama…he had NO relatives brought to the US in chains. He grew up in White american raised by a white mother and grandmother.. His father was NOT african american- but african african….he never experienced growing up in black america.

By the end of WWII, 25% of Nazi Germany’s heavy trucks were Fords.

The death camp trains ran on time, thanks to IBM punch card computers.

Nazi submarines were refueled in the Canary Islands, from SO-NJ tankers.

Thanks to secret high octane American technology transferred to Nazi Germany, the Luftwaffe and Blitzkreig were a smashing success.

The Wall Street Law firm of John Foster and Allen Dulles were involved in almost all American investments in Nazi Germany. The Dulles brothers hosted a reception for the incoming Nazi party in 1933.

George Herbert Walker was an early adopter of Adolf Hitler — he began investing in the early 1920’s.

Prescott Bush’s Wall Street Investment Banking firm provided funding for many of the American industrial investments in Nazi Germany; during the war, Prescott was the manager of the Union Banking Company, which controlled the raw materials for the slave labor factories at Auschwitz.

After the war, the Dulles Brothers and Prescott Bush helped smuggle Gestapo agents out of Europe, installing them in the CIA.

But Democrats who don’t wear flag pins are unpatriotic, so it’s all the same.

FWIW, Obama’s ancestors were NOT brought over here in chains. Unless it was some on his mother’s side of the family since I believe his father was from Kenya

Loo Hoo, answered your ? downstairs.

The ironic thing though, is that Obama’s maternal family did the exact same thing McCain’s family did. They were white, and they fought for the United States..so her whole stupid premise is either stupid or snark…I’m guessing stupid and racist…

Also, the black side of Obama’s family did not come here enslaved.

This is another in the endless run of projections from the right. Noonan’s whole piece is a fantasy she has thought out because she is the true elitist thinking how to keep the rubes shut-up and cleaning up after her. I don’t know if Obama represents true change but it seems he might allow some actual thought enter the political arena. Noonan is the one snickering as she hopes the whisper campaign against Obama has her voice as part of the chorus.

Nooner- who works for the Wall Street Journal- might want to look into why Wall Street is backing this unamerican guy instead of McBush. Just a thought Peggers- this is your constituency.

It will be interesting to see if MSM “officially” notices these ads. They are being targeted at the Beltway Bimbos. I want to see the American public and the old news media go their separate ways during the run up to the election. And then watch MSM try to figure out what “went wrong” – why they (the people) were so off the mark, that they did not get what the corporate gods were telling them when the Dems completely wipe out the Thugs everywhere except for the Southern Strategery areas.

Erm,
But he *did* experience growing up black in America.
Which is probably more relevant than ancestry.

It’s going to be an historic election- and potentially a watershed in american politics…

Interestingly, that most interesting part of the story is something the media doesn’t find entertaining enough to cover–the story line SHOULD be “Can the gooper party survive this election?”

I might point out to Nooner that Obama’s pastor is a great lesson in what an inspirational American really is.
He gave up a college deferment (after hearing JFK speak) during Vietnam to become a Marine, did his 2 years, then became a Naval corpsman.

I would say not even that so much. He spent a lot of his youth in Hawaii. He would have been a minority over there but then so are whites. And the multi-ethnic environment is rather different than most anywhere else in the country.

Nooner doesn’t tear up over any non white people apparently….why’s that?

If you haven’t already, read the chapter on Noonan in James Wolcott’s book “Attack Poodles.” Absolutely hilarious.

Notice the nice corner Peggy and her ilk are trying to paint Obama into – if he and Michelle start to utter sentimental, America-loving bromides, Peggy and the other haters will paint them as big phonies.

Awesome picture of Peggy with the beauty pageant thingie.

Fear, fear and more fear. That is all the GOP has to peddle.

What is the opposite of fear? Not bravery, but Hope. Ah ha! That’s why Obama is trying to corner it. Sneaky.

Yeah and then on to- where was it- indonesia? His life was rather different than a typical african american.

Also, to get misty-eyed over the Wright Brothers don’t you have to be about 130 years old? Like, say, JOHN MCCAIN??

LOL! Good one!

Why does she cry over the Wright Brothers? Cause they’re DEAD? If they weren’t dead they’d be a decaying freak show.. I don’t get it.

I have a relative who showed up for the Gold Rush, and he was hardly a loser or brigand. He took time off from being a farmer in northern Louisiana to go to California with a friend named Alden, a descendant of John Alden and Priscilla Mullins. After 3 unsuccessful years they returned to Louisiana and he married Alden’s daughter. Later they moved to Benton County, AR, where their descendants are still prosperous farmers. Oh, and his grandfather, one Francis Adams, signed up for the American Revolution at age 15 and served 3 years. I’m sure he would be amused at Noonan’s description, and agree with me that she’s uppity white trash.

Nooners… the full court press is on, that means we are still in the
game. HRC porteays Obama as Stokeley Carmichael, way too smart and
upfront for respectible white america… there is such a long way to go,
how would you like to be the object of this buildup of pure hate?
WETSU!!

Ford may have been a rascist, but he DID make a lot of black cars.

I don’t wear a flag pin. Don’t own one.

I own a Canadian flag pin….

true we only have to look at what those white police officers did to the black immigrant with a broom to show that skin color can and will dictate your experiences

yuck yuck

or the losers and brigands who flocked to Sutter’s Mill, who pushed their way west because there was gold in them thar hills?

Does she mean the ones that stole the gold and land from it’s rightful owners and helped commit genocide on them? Those losers?

Speaking of the Ford Motor Company (and not Henry), anyone who has read The Shock Doctrine will remember Ford’s affiliation of the various torture loving regimes in the Southern Cone of South America in the 60s and 70s.

Nooner is also using a dog whistle here – the implication that Obama doesn’t “love his country,” w/r/t Michelle Obama. If you check out myrightwingdad.com, you can see the e-mails that are being circulated in the hidden underbelly of the Internets. The attack line is going to be the lack of patriotism.

Nooner’s patron Saint Ronnie never met a dog whistle he didn’t like either. That she mentions Henry Ford here is certainly no accident from what I see.

I think the Indonesia time came prior to the Hawaii experiences. He graduated from Punahou High School, where he was a scholarship student.

We just have to call them on their bullshit everytime they say it.

doing a fly-by

margot at 48

and was valedictorian and was on lbj’s medical care team……..black man in the 60’s part of the medical team for the care of the president of the united states. quite a resume….. was a cardio tech i think, kinda important job, heart care for a pres who was famous for blowing his stack…..

(h/t raven)

bye pups, bbl.

the losers and brigands who flocked to Sutter’s Mill, who pushed their way west because there was gold in them thar hills?

Who will shed a tear for the Donner Party? WHO?!

I think he started off in Hawaii- went to indonesia, and then returned:

Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (born August 4, 1961) is the junior United States Senator from Illinois and a candidate for the Democratic Party’s nomination in the 2008 U.S. presidential election. He married in 1992 and has two daughters. Obama has written two books: a memoir of his youth titled Dreams from My Father, and The Audacity of Hope, a personal commentary on U.S. politics.

Born to a Kenyan father and an American mother, he passed most of his childhood and adolescent years in Honolulu, Hawaii. At age six, he moved to Jakarta where he lived with his mother and Indonesian stepfather for four years. A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, Obama worked as a community organizer, university lecturer, and lawyer before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004.

Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for U.S. Senate in early 2003. The next year, while still an Illinois state legislator, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention. He was elected to the U.S. Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.

Really.

I’m sorry, thinking of the Gold Rush doesn’t make me feel patriotic at all. And for Godsakes, Sutter was German-Swiss.

What’s her thing for Germans?

By the way, My wife just read a positively glowing endorsement of Obama by Warren Buffet who seems to think he’s one in a million.

Republics are Nazi wannabes.

Wow. Noonan is bat shit crazy. I’m surprised that she didn’t mention Lindbergh as well.

I would love to know when this presidential run for Obama actually started and its history.. He’s got a lot more support than from the small donors he always talks about. This didn’t just spring up full grown out of a peach pit er somethin. Wall Street is behind this guy- big time!

Republics are Nazi wannabes.

That’s why I’ve had “Der Fuhrer’s Face” stuck in my head for the last fourteen years.

Yep

Also – if you have been copied on anyway on any of these Wing Nut Daily e-mails attacking Obama or Clinton make sure that you fight back with a heavy dose of truth and reality, i.e. don’t ignore them but do a “reply to all” with debunking the salient points.

Obama’s fund raising is nothing short of amazing- he may be able to bury McBush come fall.

One person’s “misty-eyed” is another’s glaucoma.

“Joint Chiefs Chairman Says U.S. Preparing Military Options Against Iran”

WaPo

In the period from 1910 to 1918, Ford grew increasingly anti-immigrant, anti-labor, anti-liquor and anti-Semitic. In 1919, he purchased a newspaper, the Dearborn Independent. He installed an editor and hired a journalist, William J. Cameron, to listen to his ideas and write a weekly column in his name.

Strangely, Ford came to believe in a Jewish world conspiracy. He blamed Jewish financiers for fomenting World War I so that they could profit from supplying both sides. He suspected Jewish automobile dealers of conspiring to undermine Ford Company sales policies. Ford vented his beliefs about Jewish power public in the pages of the Dearborn Independent. For a year, the editor resisted running Ford’s anti-Jewish articles and finally resigned rather than publish them. Cameron, Ford’s personal columnist, took over the editorship and, in May 1920, published the first of a series of articles titled ”The International Jew: The World’s Problem.”

from here

How about Prescott Bush making money in Nazi Germany after the Second World War starts? True love of freedom.

Obama has perfected what Howard Dean started four years ago.

Also the influence of Oprah plays a huge role – whatever you may think of her, Oprah also transcends race and is very active in promoting her pet causes from Dr. Phil, the book club (she came off relatively unscathed out of the James Frey issue), Dr. Oz, etc. are all hugely successful due to her efforts. I know that intellectual people loathe her (the “Secret” is absolute BS, for example), you cannot deny her influence on a race where before she has stayed apolitical.

dmac, yes on the cardiopulmonary tech. Very important job.

rwcole, do you have a link to that Warren Buffet piece?

Yeah but you know the saying,

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on

It’s a battle but one worht fighting

That was in an earlier draft.

“Does he get misty-eyed thinking about the America Firsters?”

*peppers the air with curses in three languages* Not good.

It’s in a Buffet book. I can’t remember the name.

like a candidate for the Republican nomination in Indiana’s 2nd district

Have a hunch that this all started WAY before Oprah came to the party..

O/T

Carville: Obama “Hides Under The New York Times Editorialists’ Skirt”

i need for him to go sit in the corner and not come out, ever

what are you implying?

Carville: Obama “Hides Under The New York Times Editorialists’ Skirt”

Is this asshole still trying to impersonate a Democrat?

I don’t know a LOT about Indiana- and was only there once- but it seems to have a peculiar history. As I recall it was a leader in the growth of the KKK- which is odd to me given it’s geography….Anyone know why it would be so actively rascist.

Carville – what has happened to all these people? They used to be the good guys. Well, partly. I want the Clinton campaign to go away.

The code language in the contrast between the paragraph on McCain and Obama is that since ole Johnny Boy learned patriotism at the knee of his grandfather the Admiral, he’s somehow more qualified than Obama, whose grandfather was a goat herd. And African.

Peggy’s nativism comes out from time to time. She doesn’t like that Obama’s more authentic than her beloved St. Ronnie.

Yeah but i don’t buy it. the man is as unpleasant on the inside as he is on the outside.

I want the Clinton campaign to go away.

I want the clinton party to go away, stay away, and never, ever, come back again.

Yup, Nooner is a maudlin drunk. It’s always something with her.

The America of the Wright Brothers in 1903 was about the same amount of racist as now. Not much would have changed culturally since then were it not for government intervention; I guess that’s their main beef, huh? Ah, the good ol’ days.

Was Obama’s grandfather a goat herd? His father apparently moved upward quite quickly then. Maybe he was a royal goatherd who only herded as a hobby?

Well- in 1903 america was still filled with Civil War Veterans. I would guess that things were QUITE a bit different.

Yeah but i don’t buy it. the man is as unpleasant on the inside as he is on the outside.

And that’s pretty damned unpleasant.

John McCain carries it in his bones. Mr. McCain learned it in school, in the Naval Academy, and, literally, at grandpa’s knee.

And thelittlebastardbush learned how to be a good little nazi at his grandfather’s knee

George Washington, like other wealthy, elitist Virginia land barons of his era, owned more than 100 slaves and employed many indentured white servants. The whites were often overseers/supervisors. They frequently mixed with black sevants. The mulatto children were treated as slaves. Though George never apparently sired any mixed race children (nor any children of his own) he had relatives who did.

Gonna hear this bullshit all the way to the morning of the election; for that matter for the next four and a half years. Oh well. Especially because of the scary Negro. One drop of blood and all that.
We just have to focus–continually–on the lies, crimes, and economic disaster the Republicans have brought, and let America’s common sense counter the crap. It’ll work. You can tell an American it’s a shiny new Dodge, but if it looks like a wrecked Vega, the lie ain’t gonna fly.

For the record, I get misty eyed thinking a dem is going to take over the Presidency this year.
I sob uncontrollably when I worry that it may not happen.

The whole column was so adorably out-of-touch that I had to shake my head in awe of it. A white woman from New York City criticizing a biracial man from Hawaii (memo to Noonan: Hawaii is part of the United States now! You can look it up on wikipedia, if you don’t believe me.) and saying he isn’t a “real” American. The truth of the matter is that Peggy Noonan would fit in with the ruling elites from any number of European nations over the past 500 years. Barack Obama, on the other hand, only fits in here in present-day America.

I also love the fact that she opens the column by bitching about the indignity of her–a middle-aged white woman!–having to go through the same airline security protocols as everyone else. I kept thinking, “You know, I’ll bet it’s even less fun if you’re a black man named Barack Hussein Obama.” She manages to be profoundly elitist (Why don’t people respect me? I’m a middle-aged white woman, dammit! What else do they need to know?) while accusing Barack Obama of being a snob and lionizing John McCain (who we need to start describing as a “male gold-digger”). The whole column was an amazing feat of chutzpah.

Nice reference to Caligula. I wonder if Shrub ever thought about nominating a horse for the Supreme Court? Oh wait, does horse’s ass count? Well, there you are.

And I’ll proudly echo elliott: It’s all about the Supreme Court!!!

And don’t you forget it. /s *G*

Second this comment.

Oh.ma.gawd. Not Poopsie again.

What about that gap in America’s history that McCain missed called the civil rights movement, or the assassinations of JFK, RFK and MLK? Oh, that’s right, they were Democrats.

spit.

You could always google

The whites were often overseers/supervisors. They frequently mixed with black sevants. The mulatto children were treated as slaves.

Was Strom Thurmond a supervisor or an overseer?

agreed

Also, to clarify I said that first came the Dean internet financing tactics, second came Oprah and her large following from all across the political spectrum.

his multiple votes against the King holiday, etc. He’s waited a damn long time to atone for his short comings

Might have been the progeny of one of the mixed race children-

So you did- and perhaps that is the history.

his multiple votes against the King holiday, etc. He’s waited a damn long time to atone for his short comings

Too little, too late, as far as I’m concerned. John McFucker is a pig among men.

OT the Cushing spot price for crude oil is currently $120.05. Madness.

No arguments from me.

Ding.

I have a peace pin. *g*

seconded. is pandering or fake ass attempt is insulting. that may very well be why in a county that was 70% balck not one black person showed up at his lil civil rights photo op

pipelines keep getting blown up as well…hmmmmmmm

Republican Racist Warmonger….works for me.

seconded. is pandering or fake ass attempt is insulting. that may very well be why in a county that was 70% balck not one black person showed up at his lil civil rights photo op

But of course. African-Americans may not be married to the Democratic Party anymore, but it doesn’t mean they can’t spot a fraud.

To paraphrase Kanye West

“Now I ain’t sayin he a gold digger
But he ain’t messin with no broke _______”

What rhymes with digger and refers to platinum blond beer heiresses?

Let me try this again…with spell check this time

seconded. [h]is pandering and/or fake ass attempt is insulting. that may very well be why in a county that was 70% balck black not one black person showed up at his lil civil rights photo op

Republican Racist Warmonger….works for me.

Racist, sexist, elitist, corporatist warmonger. “Republican” almost becomes redundant.

He has been tagged as…

Ah, the passive voice, eternally beloved by people ducking responsibility for their actions…

McBush…..Republican Racist Sexist Warmonger. Seems to be plenty evidence to make that case.

i have a feeling blacks can smell race related bullshit before it even comes out the ass

What rhymes with digger and refers to platinum blond beer heiresses?

Pig uh?

Never underestimate a princess’s ability to spout putoutedness. Pout for short.

she’s still grieving for Fred and I guess ranks presidential stock by how much she wants to bed down and see if they have a pair…

Well, you know, if we’d just started drilling in ANWR, none of that would have happened. /gop

i have a feeling blacks can smell race related bullshit before it even comes out the ass

Sure. After all, they hear enough of it.

Interesting OT–I just got an email from the ANSWER Coalition asking for people to take to the streets in New York City to protest the acquittal of the police officers who shot Sean Bell. I wonder how many will show up?

Personally, I think we should welcome these nostalgic attempts at turning the clock back to the good old 19th century Lawrence Welk America. Last time I checked this leaves younger voters just scratching their heads in bewilderment and appeals only to very old voters that diminish every day. The fact that our country is engaged in extremely evil acts that are contrary to the national interest and the economy is falling around our ears in ways people feel on a daily if not hourly basis would seem to predict that this message will not register with any voters.

I think that the entire racist and/or patriotic attack on Obama will muddle any message that McCain will try to use to convince people that his party has any valid claims on continuing its control. It is quite possible that McCain is starting to react to the dissonance that is being created by the 527’s that appear to be acting as independent agents. If they are not acting independently then he will have big trouble trying to convince anyone to vote for him based on the fact that Obama is simply alien to the usual status quo.

Because the status quo is dangerous to the basic survival and prosperity of 80% of the electorate. They will sense that a new course must be taken by anyone at all that can be found to propel it.

Be careful with the typical references, if the lame stream media sees you they’ll assume you’re demeaning typical black people like me, because I’m obviously not aware of your intentions until they tell me how to feel.

I have a great pin that St Pete For Peace had made up right after we formed. It’s a peace sign formed by an arm clenching a broken rifle , which forms the right and left arms. A solid line extends the arm to the top of the circle. the logo around the outside of the sign reads “Join The Resistance.” I wear it every day. On Fridays it’s my Veterans For Peace t-shirt and the pin. I get nice comments in check out lines. Wore the pin to Federal jury duty a couple of years ago and had a battle royale with the fascists at the courthouse in Tampa. I won. First Amendment, and all that, doncha know. Motherf****rs.

No justice, no peace.

I picture her struggling upstream as a diverse throng of young and old people of broad conscience and a modern sense of love-of-country floods the mall in DC to celebrate Obama’s victory. She’s wearing a yellowed lace dress; her cheeks are rouged; she looks scared and lost, trying to find Ronald Reagan on his pony.

“Where are all you people going?! Biracial President? Grassroots Democracy? Sutter’s Mill! Flag Pin! Ronny? Ronny?”

Just what is the life of a typical african american?

Me too.

That so rocks! *G*

Republican Racist Gold digging Sexist WarMonger

Oh wait, I forgot “forgetful”…

I still want to know what the typical life of an African American is as was stated earlier

rwcole has left the building, trolling requires fluidity of movement.

Thanks- that was poorly worded- too late to try to go back and fix it now.

Back to the grind. Late lunch. Gotta keep the income comin’ so I can keep fightin’ these fascist pig motherf****rs. Even though I knew it was comin’ this thing in New York has really got my hackles up. Could ya tell?

thanks for acknowledging his post, rwcole and by proxy, my post. ( I mean that sincerely)

I absolutely condemn any political ad that points out that John McCain wears a flag lapel pin when he molests children.

Thanks back.

It is when you read the drivel that Noone turns out that you then begin to see how easy it was for the nazi’s to overtake a nation under Hitler. To think that there is a currency out there who takes this crap seriously is breathtaking. And when I see her make appearances, most notable, MTP, I have to stop and ask myself why she is given a forum since she obviously so deranged. Unbelievable.

Good for you!

I have a Dream.

Do not the words of Dr. King bring a bit of a tear to every American’s eye?

Dear Peggy,

In spite of everything the media and Team Clinton and your Republicans have thrown at Barack Obama, his lead in Indiana and especially nationally, have risen!

If that doesn’t tell you how resiliant and powerful this man is and what he means to Americans, then your education and experience has all been for naught.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..98581.html
In plainer English,
Hillary is a plump floundering seal in the firm grip of Obamas pearly whites.

Re Indiana, the man can’t bowl but he sure can shoot baskets. That is gonna count for a LOT there. Larry Bird territory.

Read the Magic Man’s books…..

Then you’ll ‘get it’.

Bigtime.

Carville: Obama “Hides Under The New York Times Editorialists’ Skirt”

Yeah, the same day they gave Team Clinton free adspace because the campaign’s so far in debt.

Who told you he can shoot?

I rather tend to doubt it.

And do you really….I mean, really think voters are that stupid in IL. That they never heard of Wright, Rezko or Auchi?

Guess we get to find out huh? Based on PA I would not be expecting much for the ‘Magic Man’.

Was referring to Indiana

Of course Peggers gets misty thinking about Orville & Wilbur. She dated them.

It’s been a long time without those happy propeller fellers taxiing into her hangar.

As for me, I get awestruck by Stanton, Bickerdyke, Hurston, Muir, Carson, Chavez and Huerta, Lin, Vonnegut, Zaharias, Zappa, Fuller, …. and Lafayette, Gandhi, Havel, Mandela, Nightingale, etc. But what does Nooners know about women or foreigners? All she can see is through her red and blue lenses are rich, white elitist hate boys who gave her the happiest moments of her life, 15 seconds at a time.

Noonan’s commentary illuminates little beyond the apparent fact that she is incapable of thinking about American history objectively. Weeping over the Wright Brothers, for God’s sake? You want to get misty over historical figures? How about Fannie Lou Hamer, who endured countless physical abuse, harassment, and intimidation to cast a vote in Mississippi? How about Roger Williams, who had the courage to defy John Winthrop and the authoritarian regime in Puritan Massachusetts Bay and stand up for religious individualism? How about Alice Paul, who picketed the White House during World War I demanding woman suffrage, despite the threat to her person and her colleagues? I could go on, but the notion that McCain has this kind of hyper-nationalistic worldview hard-wired into his consciousness is hardly a sterling endorsement of his intellectual qualifications for the office.

This would seem self-evident, but then, it’s Peggy Noonan.

All good points, but understanding and considering this history of freedom and democratic activism would require both intelligence and sanity. Neither of which Noonan seems to posses. Oh well.

I’d give Peggy Noonan a word or two about her bogus view of American history. I have lived in the shadow of Sutter’s Fort for the last decade and I can bet that Obama is a bit more in touch with that history than the Nooner. He likely knows that it wasn’t juyst a bunch of white Protestants that came over the Sierras…but also Hawaiian islanders, Chinese, Mexican’s from the Cordilleras, Europeans (which is why Opera became popular on the West Coast) as well as a good number of people from African descent (many from the US but also some from Mexico).

Some, like my Mormon ancestors, actually brought them to California as slaves. But the laws of Mexico in that regard were carried over into the California Constitution (with the help of Northerners) so that California entered the Union as a free state. My white ancestors had to givew up their slaves…although they tried to foist them off as being members of the family (which they may have been too, the children, at least).

The Mexicans became a part of the fabric of California. Spanish was the language of the original, non-native settlers…and their culture was protected under the original State Constitution and the treaty of Hidalgo-Tegucigalpa. Some of thedescendants of these Americans were actually deported to Mexico, illegally, in WW2. Later immigrants from Latin America have been welcomed by agribusiness and others…sometimes only because they were able to impair the Union movements in the State.

Californians have always had to deal with race, sometimes progressively…but often not.

The Chinese were not welcomed during the Gold Rush, and were told to go back….until their labor was needed on the railways, that is. Even then the weren’t considered even as possible citizens until well after the turn of the Century. By that time many Chinese and Japanese were into their third generation here. So tell Peg-ASS-us Nooner, the story of California is also one of race and class. The California of Ronnie Reagan and Tome Cruise is one that’s about as thin as the grey cells in her brain.

And I’m sure that the Great Henry Ford…union-buster and racist extraordinaire…the guy that financing massive printings of the “Protocols of Zion” that are still found in bookstores across the world today is a suitable icon for her!

And do you really….I mean, really think voters are that stupid in IL. That they never heard of Wright, Rezko or Auchi?

Well I, for one, don’t think that voters in IL (Illinois) are stupid. They knew about the above when they voted. YOU ARE AWARE THAT ILLINOIS HAS ALREADY HAD THEIR PRIMARY, AREN’T YOU? They also knew that these techniques of personal assassination by association are just typical stuff in Chicago politics…they know Wright, and Rezko (the guy has donated millions to scores of politicians in Illinois of all political stripes since long before Obama). They can smell bullcaca slurs when they are doled it out.

Now such bulldada may be more effective in INDIANA. But Barack has done well in every state abutting Illinois, perhaps because the folks in these States are in the Chicago market, rather than the Philly/NY sphere of influence.

Clinton has to win by at least what she did in Pennsylvania just to get the Superdelegates to hold off making a decision. If it’s under 10% and she doesn’t cut her losses in NC to 10% in North Carolina many will make a decision based on those races and the fact that she’d need a clean sweep of the remaining races by 60%+ (and 60% of the remaining Superdelegates). to win the nomination. If Obama wins Oregon or splits any of the other states she starts needin 65%, or 70%…or 80%. Finally she’ll need 90% of Puerto Rico. I guess it would be “possiblo, senora”.

Then we can start talking about pardoning convicted terrorist bombers and Viquennes, right? And how Hillary needs to win a State…what PR is an autonomous Commonwealth that doesn’t even vote in the Presidential election…but she has to win it to get the nomination?

I have not read all the comments/thread etc. But, exactly why is it we should be so reverent of Mr. Ford. I mean no disrespect. I am probably Noonan’s middle age, however, I’ve never been taught to tear up about the Model T/A or its maker. Now, when I got a georgeous red Corvair convertible, before I knew better, well…now that was a tearful, joyous occasion.

Or the first time you blow through 100mph on a Ducati. Ahh…now that’s a tearful moment…

I read a lot.

I try to see all sides of a post or article.

The above by Noonan is some of the craziest shit I have ever read by a ‘journalist’.

Ever.

I doubt I’m gonna get an answer, but I’ll ask this anyway. I read references to Peggy’s drinking all the time. Is this based on something besides the incredibly daft writing?

Well most of America has been crying over George Bush’s destructive tendencies and policies on America. And we are supposed to care when she cries? She doen’t have any concerns over America’s tears…………

Regardless of what she says about Obama, the key point in the whole fetid spew is in what she said about Clinton:

“Mrs. Clinton learned at least its importance in her long slog through Arkansas, circa 1977-92.”

You see, people who grow up in Illinois like Clinton, or Hawaii like Obama, or (presumably) California or (certainly) Massachusetts or any other state that (coincidentally!) vote Democratic – they’re incapable of understanding patriotism. That’s why they’re all traitors and cowards.

I say this as someone born in the Constitution State, raised in the Cradle of Liberty and living in the Land of Lincoln: Peggy Noonan can kiss my ass.

[low whistle] Yeah, I was a history major back in college, but have no idea how one is supposed to demonstrate ones’ love for ones’ country by “loving” ones’ past.
One of my memories of reading Peggy Noonan was that I was reading her book on writing for the elder George Bush and she was getting all misty-eyed over American history (”I was standing right where Abraham Lincoln once stood!!!”), meanwhile, the train I was on was passing by the walls of Rome!
Perspectives.