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(Pictured: Peggy Noonan's hero receiving a Nazi medal in Nazi Germany from the Nazis.)
This is amazing, even for Nooner:
Main thought. Hillary Clinton is not Barack Obama's problem. America is Mr. Obama's problem. He has been tagged as a snooty lefty, as the glamorous, ambivalent candidate from Men's Vogue, the candidate who loves America because of the great progress it has made in terms of racial fairness. Fine, good. But has he ever gotten misty-eyed over . . . the Wright Brothers and what kind of country allowed them to go off on their own and change everything? How about D-Day, or George Washington, or Henry Ford, or the losers and brigands who flocked to Sutter's Mill, who pushed their way west because there was gold in them thar hills? There's gold in that history.
Let's leave aside the "snooty lefty" and "Men's Vogue" stuff. That's Glenzilla's territory.
But um...Henry Fucking Ford makes Nooner misty-eyed? Really? The openly anti-Semitic admirer of Adolf Hitler, who personally flew to Nazi Germany to receive the Order of the German Eagle in 1938, and opposed our involvement in WWII? That's someone Nooner puts alongside George Washington? That's someone Nooner thinks Obama should tear up about?
Holy. Shit.
Anyway, back to you, Nooner:
John McCain carries it in his bones. Mr. McCain learned it in school, in the Naval Academy, and, literally, at grandpa's knee. Mrs. Clinton learned at least its importance in her long slog through Arkansas, circa 1977-92.
Mr. Obama? What does he think about all that history? Which is another way of saying: What does he think of America? That's why people talk about the flag pin absent from the lapel. They wonder if it means something. Not that the presence of the pin proves love of country – any cynic can wear a pin, and many cynics do. But what about Obama and America? Who would have taught him to love it, and what did he learn was loveable, and what does he think about it all?
And what actual evidence does Nooner have that St. McCain cries every time he hears a Stephen Foster song while Obama cynically laughs behind all us rubes' backs?
None!
I wonder. Does Nooner drink herself sick every night, wishing we could turn the country over to right-wing traitors like Henry Ford and worrying about the very real possibility that a Negro will be President?
What does she think about it all? I mean, who taught her not to be a race-baiting fascist?
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I havelong believed that she has some sort of disorder that renders her incapable of operating in the reality as we know it. I don’t make a habit of reading her slop anymore as I realized that my IQ was taking a hit everytime I did.
She probably rejoices that we turned the country over to right-wing traitors named Bush and Cheney.
Ah, yes. Henry Effing Ford. One of the few good things he did (sponsoring old-time stringband music festivals), he did for the wrong reasons: Because he hated jazz — that urban product of blacks and Jews — with a passion.
She was channelling Wes Pegler.
But he was a good american and to point out that he was a anti-semite, racist jackass that he was will make any american true american cry (/snark)
(Pictured: Peggy Noonan’s hero receiving a Nazi medal in Nazi Germany from the Nazis.)
The question is, does this make Ms. Noonan proud of America?
I don’t wear a flag pin. Don’t own one.
Hey BT, just thanks,
I love to scoff at Peggy
I don’t think most people even know who she is. It’s all about HER anyway.
I have a Nixon Now pin
She’s Peggy F*ckin’ Noonan! of course she loves America, we should all love America the way she does.
Can I have my martini now?
She isn’t worth the time to comment.
And Nooner calling Obama snooty? She of the nose in the air, holier than thou tone of voice calling Obama snooty?
You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.
I love to read stuff like this. It means the right is running scared. “Oh dear, the world is changing. Please make it stop. I do not want a new generation to run/ruin my pretty little world.”
I don’t either but I have a plethora of stuff that has the brasilian flag all over it (t-shirts, flip flops, bikini, etc.)
What did you say?
Nooner lost it years ago- she’s operating on fumes as the memories of her past glories ferment in her bowels and drift up to her brain.
Her best was her comments on the Shiavo case….
Obama’s maternal Grandfather…the one who raised him…was a WWII vet, and his Grandmother made parts for WWII…
So, how dare Noonan challenge what Obama thinks, what he has cried over during his life, or what he was taught at the knee of “his” Grandfather??
Sometimes the outrageous way she writes makes me think she’s trying to be snarky or something. Perhaps that is why she used the Henry Ford reference….her article actually shows how absurd questioning Obama’s love of America that way is.
I just don’t get it.
Maybe she meant George Washington Carver? /snark
Nooner is just providing the preview of what she thinks the best line of gooper attack will be in the fall…It’s not too valuable because her political judgement actually SUCKS. She was a speech writer- not a political strategist. Not even the goopers are going to pay any attention to her advice.
Peggy Noonan should be wondering if
Obamabush Loves America, Has he Ever Cried Thinking AboutHenry Fordthe hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqi’s?That’s better.
there is a great scene in the show, Family guy, where the main character Peter comes in on an elephant. He says to his wife.
Sums up the repug party perfectly
Does anyone believe that Nooner cried while thinking about Henry Ford- her schmaltz easily goes so far over the top that it boils up like projectile vomiting.
Noonan is writing what is expected of her. She’s a good god fearing authoritarian rich fascist. She hasn,t lost it, she knows exactly what she’s doing. She’s like Gonzo or Yoo, only less powerful and more idiotic…
Thank you for identifying a specific bit of political trollery.
Noonan, political hack and participant in the Bush administration disregard and decimation of American principles, goes on the record as saying flag pins are important.
The correct response, which the MSM does not provide to a protected member of the Village or in its willing participation in the GOP’s effort to ignore issues in favor of Bright Shiny Objects, is:
“What the fuck, are you crazy?”
Ah hell, we know Little Boots cares nothing about the hundreds of thousands of dead Irakis. It’s questionable if he’s ever cried about the thousands of US troops killed and injured in his misbegotten adventurism. Most likely the only thing he’s ever cried over was spilling a beer.
John McCain — descendant of slave owners on that family plantation in Ol’ Mississippi….
DNC is now running an anti-McBush ad- the theme “He doesn’t have a clue”
It shows him making glib statements about how we’re better off than we were eight years ago with chirons in the background showing that every thing is says is just WRONG (unemployment, average income, etc.)
So maybe this is the campaign…
The guy who doesn’t love american vs. the guy who doesn’t have a clue.
Who wins THAT battle? Stay tuned.
Darn it, Dakine. You beat me to it.
or the dead americans in new orleans
… which is another way of saying, Peggy, that virtually no black person can ever be president. Look I’m white. But it occurs to me that if my ancestors were brought here in chains and treated -by law - as second class until recently in many plcaes, that my love for this country might somehow be different from what it as a grandchild of people who came here because they wanted to and as one who really hasn’t had doors closed to him (and worse). Why is that hard to get?
He didn’t cry over that cause Cheney told him that they volunteered.
Or those who perished on 9-11, giving bush an excuse for the not so excellent war adventures he’s been on ever since.
I knew the frat boy type in college. Unfortunately, they’re pretty much the same all over.
And look, not to disrespect the the Wright bros, but when I think of inspirational Americans, I don’t think of them. Or that anti-union prick Ford. Now that guy with tne pony tail that invented Oxyclean, HE’S an inspiration.
Well, yeah, but that doesn’t apply to Obama…he had NO relatives brought to the US in chains. He grew up in White american raised by a white mother and grandmother.. His father was NOT african american- but african african….he never experienced growing up in black america.
By the end of WWII, 25% of Nazi Germany’s heavy trucks were Fords.
The death camp trains ran on time, thanks to IBM punch card computers.
Nazi submarines were refueled in the Canary Islands, from SO-NJ tankers.
Thanks to secret high octane American technology transferred to Nazi Germany, the Luftwaffe and Blitzkreig were a smashing success.
The Wall Street Law firm of John Foster and Allen Dulles were involved in almost all American investments in Nazi Germany. The Dulles brothers hosted a reception for the incoming Nazi party in 1933.
George Herbert Walker was an early adopter of Adolf Hitler — he began investing in the early 1920’s.
Prescott Bush’s Wall Street Investment Banking firm provided funding for many of the American industrial investments in Nazi Germany; during the war, Prescott was the manager of the Union Banking Company, which controlled the raw materials for the slave labor factories at Auschwitz.
After the war, the Dulles Brothers and Prescott Bush helped smuggle Gestapo agents out of Europe, installing them in the CIA.
But Democrats who don’t wear flag pins are unpatriotic, so it’s all the same.
FWIW, Obama’s ancestors were NOT brought over here in chains. Unless it was some on his mother’s side of the family since I believe his father was from Kenya
Loo Hoo, answered your ? downstairs.
The ironic thing though, is that Obama’s maternal family did the exact same thing McCain’s family did. They were white, and they fought for the United States..so her whole stupid premise is either stupid or snark…I’m guessing stupid and racist…
Also, the black side of Obama’s family did not come here enslaved.
This is another in the endless run of projections from the right. Noonan’s whole piece is a fantasy she has thought out because she is the true elitist thinking how to keep the rubes shut-up and cleaning up after her. I don’t know if Obama represents true change but it seems he might allow some actual thought enter the political arena. Noonan is the one snickering as she hopes the whisper campaign against Obama has her voice as part of the chorus.
Nooner- who works for the Wall Street Journal- might want to look into why Wall Street is backing this unamerican guy instead of McBush. Just a thought Peggers- this is your constituency.
It will be interesting to see if MSM “officially” notices these ads. They are being targeted at the Beltway Bimbos. I want to see the American public and the old news media go their separate ways during the run up to the election. And then watch MSM try to figure out what “went wrong” - why they (the people) were so off the mark, that they did not get what the corporate gods were telling them when the Dems completely wipe out the Thugs everywhere except for the Southern Strategery areas.
Erm,
But he *did* experience growing up black in America.
Which is probably more relevant than ancestry.
It’s going to be an historic election- and potentially a watershed in american politics…
Interestingly, that most interesting part of the story is something the media doesn’t find entertaining enough to cover–the story line SHOULD be “Can the gooper party survive this election?”
I might point out to Nooner that Obama’s pastor is a great lesson in what an inspirational American really is.
He gave up a college deferment (after hearing JFK speak) during Vietnam to become a Marine, did his 2 years, then became a Naval corpsman.
I would say not even that so much. He spent a lot of his youth in Hawaii. He would have been a minority over there but then so are whites. And the multi-ethnic environment is rather different than most anywhere else in the country.
Nooner doesn’t tear up over any non white people apparently….why’s that?
If you haven’t already, read the chapter on Noonan in James Wolcott’s book “Attack Poodles.” Absolutely hilarious.
Notice the nice corner Peggy and her ilk are trying to paint Obama into - if he and Michelle start to utter sentimental, America-loving bromides, Peggy and the other haters will paint them as big phonies.
Awesome picture of Peggy with the beauty pageant thingie.
Fear, fear and more fear. That is all the GOP has to peddle.
What is the opposite of fear? Not bravery, but Hope. Ah ha! That’s why Obama is trying to corner it. Sneaky.
Yeah and then on to- where was it- indonesia? His life was rather different than a typical african american.
Also, to get misty-eyed over the Wright Brothers don’t you have to be about 130 years old? Like, say, JOHN MCCAIN??
LOL! Good one!
Why does she cry over the Wright Brothers? Cause they’re DEAD? If they weren’t dead they’d be a decaying freak show.. I don’t get it.
I have a relative who showed up for the Gold Rush, and he was hardly a loser or brigand. He took time off from being a farmer in northern Louisiana to go to California with a friend named Alden, a descendant of John Alden and Priscilla Mullins. After 3 unsuccessful years they returned to Louisiana and he married Alden’s daughter. Later they moved to Benton County, AR, where their descendants are still prosperous farmers. Oh, and his grandfather, one Francis Adams, signed up for the American Revolution at age 15 and served 3 years. I’m sure he would be amused at Noonan’s description, and agree with me that she’s uppity white trash.
Nooners… the full court press is on, that means we are still in the
game. HRC porteays Obama as Stokeley Carmichael, way too smart and
upfront for respectible white america… there is such a long way to go,
how would you like to be the object of this buildup of pure hate?
WETSU!!
Ford may have been a rascist, but he DID make a lot of black cars.
I own a Canadian flag pin….
true we only have to look at what those white police officers did to the black immigrant with a broom to show that skin color can and will dictate your experiences
yuck yuck
Does she mean the ones that stole the gold and land from it’s rightful owners and helped commit genocide on them? Those losers?
Speaking of the Ford Motor Company (and not Henry), anyone who has read The Shock Doctrine will remember Ford’s affiliation of the various torture loving regimes in the Southern Cone of South America in the 60s and 70s.
Nooner is also using a dog whistle here - the implication that Obama doesn’t “love his country,” w/r/t Michelle Obama. If you check out myrightwingdad.com, you can see the e-mails that are being circulated in the hidden underbelly of the Internets. The attack line is going to be the lack of patriotism.
Nooner’s patron Saint Ronnie never met a dog whistle he didn’t like either. That she mentions Henry Ford here is certainly no accident from what I see.
I think the Indonesia time came prior to the Hawaii experiences. He graduated from Punahou High School, where he was a scholarship student.
We just have to call them on their bullshit everytime they say it.
doing a fly-by
margot at 48
and was valedictorian and was on lbj’s medical care team……..black man in the 60’s part of the medical team for the care of the president of the united states. quite a resume….. was a cardio tech i think, kinda important job, heart care for a pres who was famous for blowing his stack…..
(h/t raven)
bye pups, bbl.
Who will shed a tear for the Donner Party? WHO?!
I think he started off in Hawaii- went to indonesia, and then returned:
Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (born August 4, 1961) is the junior United States Senator from Illinois and a candidate for the Democratic Party’s nomination in the 2008 U.S. presidential election. He married in 1992 and has two daughters. Obama has written two books: a memoir of his youth titled Dreams from My Father, and The Audacity of Hope, a personal commentary on U.S. politics.
Born to a Kenyan father and an American mother, he passed most of his childhood and adolescent years in Honolulu, Hawaii. At age six, he moved to Jakarta where he lived with his mother and Indonesian stepfather for four years. A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, Obama worked as a community organizer, university lecturer, and lawyer before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004.
Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for U.S. Senate in early 2003. The next year, while still an Illinois state legislator, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention. He was elected to the U.S. Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.
Really.
I’m sorry, thinking of the Gold Rush doesn’t make me feel patriotic at all. And for Godsakes, Sutter was German-Swiss.
What’s her thing for Germans?
By the way, My wife just read a positively glowing endorsement of Obama by Warren Buffet who seems to think he’s one in a million.
Republics are Nazi wannabes.
Wow. Noonan is bat shit crazy. I’m surprised that she didn’t mention Lindbergh as well.
I would love to know when this presidential run for Obama actually started and its history.. He’s got a lot more support than from the small donors he always talks about. This didn’t just spring up full grown out of a peach pit er somethin. Wall Street is behind this guy- big time!
That’s why I’ve had “Der Fuhrer’s Face” stuck in my head for the last fourteen years.
Yep
Also - if you have been copied on anyway on any of these Wing Nut Daily e-mails attacking Obama or Clinton make sure that you fight back with a heavy dose of truth and reality, i.e. don’t ignore them but do a “reply to all” with debunking the salient points.
Obama’s fund raising is nothing short of amazing- he may be able to bury McBush come fall.
One person’s “misty-eyed” is another’s glaucoma.
“Joint Chiefs Chairman Says U.S. Preparing Military Options Against Iran”
WaPo
from here
How about Prescott Bush making money in Nazi Germany after the Second World War starts? True love of freedom.
Obama has perfected what Howard Dean started four years ago.
Also the influence of Oprah plays a huge role - whatever you may think of her, Oprah also transcends race and is very active in promoting her pet causes from Dr. Phil, the book club (she came off relatively unscathed out of the James Frey issue), Dr. Oz, etc. are all hugely successful due to her efforts. I know that intellectual people loathe her (the “Secret” is absolute BS, for example), you cannot deny her influence on a race where before she has stayed apolitical.
dmac, yes on the cardiopulmonary tech. Very important job.
rwcole, do you have a link to that Warren Buffet piece?
Yeah but you know the saying,
It’s a battle but one worht fighting
That was in an earlier draft.
“Does he get misty-eyed thinking about the America Firsters?”
*peppers the air with curses in three languages* Not good.
It’s in a Buffet book. I can’t remember the name.
like a candidate for the Republican nomination in Indiana’s 2nd district
Have a hunch that this all started WAY before Oprah came to the party..
O/T
i need for him to go sit in the corner and not come out, ever
what are you implying?
Is this asshole still trying to impersonate a Democrat?
I don’t know a LOT about Indiana- and was only there once- but it seems to have a peculiar history. As I recall it was a leader in the growth of the KKK- which is odd to me given it’s geography….Anyone know why it would be so actively rascist.
Carville - what has happened to all these people? They used to be the good guys. Well, partly. I want the Clinton campaign to go away.
The code language in the contrast between the paragraph on McCain and Obama is that since ole Johnny Boy learned patriotism at the knee of his grandfather the Admiral, he’s somehow more qualified than Obama, whose grandfather was a goat herd. And African.
Peggy’s nativism comes out from time to time. She doesn’t like that Obama’s more authentic than her beloved St. Ronnie.
Yeah but i don’t buy it. the man is as unpleasant on the inside as he is on the outside.
I want the clinton party to go away, stay away, and never, ever, come back again.
Yup, Nooner is a maudlin drunk. It’s always something with her.
The America of the Wright Brothers in 1903 was about the same amount of racist as now. Not much would have changed culturally since then were it not for government intervention; I guess that’s their main beef, huh? Ah, the good ol’ days.
Was Obama’s grandfather a goat herd? His father apparently moved upward quite quickly then. Maybe he was a royal goatherd who only herded as a hobby?
Well- in 1903 america was still filled with Civil War Veterans. I would guess that things were QUITE a bit different.
And that’s pretty damned unpleasant.
And thelittlebastardbush learned how to be a good little nazi at his grandfather’s knee
George Washington, like other wealthy, elitist Virginia land barons of his era, owned more than 100 slaves and employed many indentured white servants. The whites were often overseers/supervisors. They frequently mixed with black sevants. The mulatto children were treated as slaves. Though George never apparently sired any mixed race children (nor any children of his own) he had relatives who did.
Gonna hear this bullshit all the way to the morning of the election; for that matter for the next four and a half years. Oh well. Especially because of the scary Negro. One drop of blood and all that.
We just have to focus–continually–on the lies, crimes, and economic disaster the Republicans have brought, and let America’s common sense counter the crap. It’ll work. You can tell an American it’s a shiny new Dodge, but if it looks like a wrecked Vega, the lie ain’t gonna fly.
For the record, I get misty eyed thinking a dem is going to take over the Presidency this year.
I sob uncontrollably when I worry that it may not happen.
The whole column was so adorably out-of-touch that I had to shake my head in awe of it. A white woman from New York City criticizing a biracial man from Hawaii (memo to Noonan: Hawaii is part of the United States now! You can look it up on wikipedia, if you don’t believe me.) and saying he isn’t a “real” American. The truth of the matter is that Peggy Noonan would fit in with the ruling elites from any number of European nations over the past 500 years. Barack Obama, on the other hand, only fits in here in present-day America.
I also love the fact that she opens the column by bitching about the indignity of her–a middle-aged white woman!–having to go through the same airline security protocols as everyone else. I kept thinking, “You know, I’ll bet it’s even less fun if you’re a black man named Barack Hussein Obama.” She manages to be profoundly elitist (Why don’t people respect me? I’m a middle-aged white woman, dammit! What else do they need to know?) while accusing Barack Obama of being a snob and lionizing John McCain (who we need to start describing as a “male gold-digger”). The whole column was an amazing feat of chutzpah.
Nice reference to Caligula. I wonder if Shrub ever thought about nominating a horse for the Supreme Court? Oh wait, does horse’s ass count? Well, there you are.
And I’ll proudly echo elliott: It’s all about the Supreme Court!!!
And don’t you forget it. /s *G*
Second this comment.
Oh.ma.gawd. Not Poopsie again.
What about that gap in America’s history that McCain missed called the civil rights movement, or the assassinations of JFK, RFK and MLK? Oh, that’s right, they were Democrats.
spit.
You could always google
Was Strom Thurmond a supervisor or an overseer?
agreed
Also, to clarify I said that first came the Dean internet financing tactics, second came Oprah and her large following from all across the political spectrum.
his multiple votes against the King holiday, etc. He’s waited a damn long time to atone for his short comings