Here's a Republican "good government" agenda for you. The GOP believes in two governmental programs:
1. Military Spending through endless undefined wars (privatized to the greatest extent possible)
2. Prison construction and minimizing vacancies (privatized to the greatest extent possible -- often to the same companies as #1 above)
Shining City on the Hill, Land of the Free, Home of the Non-competitive Bid and all that patriotic mumbo-jumbo!
When we start going on about the human rights abuses of the Chinese (which are merited), god forbid we hold up a mirror to our true selves in doing so:
The United States has less than 5 percent of the world’s population. But it has almost a quarter of the world’s prisoners.
Indeed, the United States leads the world in producing prisoners, a reflection of a relatively recent and now entirely distinctive American approach to crime and punishment. Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.
We sing many praises, Republican, Independent, Democrat alike about how we're the greatest country on earth because of our "freedom", the "last best, hope of earth" as it was said by Lincoln so long ago. We declare and praise our Constitutional due process protections. But this statistic, by itself stares us in the face and tells you all you need to know about how deeply we actually believe in the principals we so glibly espouse.
But sadly, tragically, and most of all embarrassingly, we are in no position to brag about "freedom" to anyone. We have, in many ways aggressively or passively allowed ourselves to be self-terrorized into a virtual police state. The term "police state" is not used lightly. It does describe how badly we have been manipulated by our politicians and media -- but mostly it demonstrates how blithely we all have allowed ourselves to be manipulated.
The United States comes in first, too, on a more meaningful list from the prison studies center, the one ranked in order of the incarceration rates. It has 751 people in prison or jail for every 100,000 in population. (If you count only adults, one in 100 Americans is locked up.)
The only other major industrialized nation that even comes close is Russia, with 627 prisoners for every 100,000 people. The others have much lower rates. England’s rate is 151; Germany’s is 88; and Japan’s is 63.
The median among all nations is about 125, roughly a sixth of the American rate.
Can anyone read these stats and be proud? And this is without breaking down the statistics into the even more shocking statistics of the incarceration rates by ethnicity, race, and economic status.
And now, the true relationship, our nation's true suicide pact, the perverse interpretation of the Second Amendment (because James Madison was TOTALLY in the bag for increased lethality via handguns, the man was a total douchebag prophet):
The spike in American incarceration rates is quite recent. From 1925 to 1975, the rate remained stable, around 110 people in prison per 100,000 people. It shot up with the movement to get tough on crime in the late 1970s. (These numbers exclude people held in jails, as comprehensive information on prisoners held in state and local jails was not collected until relatively recently.)
The nation’s relatively high violent crime rate, partly driven by the much easier availability of guns here, helps explain the number of people in American prisons.
“The assault rate in New York and London is not that much different,” said Marc Mauer, the executive director of the Sentencing Project, a research and advocacy group. “But if you look at the murder rate, particularly with firearms, it’s much higher.”
Of course, no one is arguing violent crimes be punished less, but the appalling ease in which people can get guns in this country makes their use in crime and increased lethality a more serious consequence upon the victims. However, this fact can easily be ignored and we as a society have apparently decided to do so.
But it is more than that, as the Times details what we all know, it's the fact that we send people to prison for the most non-violent of offenses, including our continual delusional "war on drugs":
But that is only a partial explanation. The United States, in fact, has relatively low rates of nonviolent crime. It has lower burglary and robbery rates than Australia, Canada and England.
People who commit nonviolent crimes in the rest of the world are less likely to receive prison time and certainly less likely to receive long sentences. The United States is, for instance, the only advanced country that incarcerates people for minor property crimes like passing bad checks, Mr. Whitman wrote.
Efforts to combat illegal drugs play a major role in explaining long prison sentences in the United States as well. In 1980, there were about 40,000 people in American jails and prisons for drug crimes. These days, there are almost 500,000.
Those figures have drawn contempt from European critics. “The U.S. pursues the war on drugs with an ignorant fanaticism,” said Ms. Stern of King’s College.
There are arguments made that drops in crime rates are due to these higher incarceration rates. But they are matters of dispute.
The extraordinary rate in which we deprive citizens of their freedom, however, is not subject to any debate. It is a palpable, and appalling fact.
There are obviously differences in party politics on some matters. Republicans are totally beholden to the Gun Lobby, while Democrats are merely in the bag for them. Republicans favor locking up damn nearly everyone who looks at them strangely, Democrats are comparative wimps, only favoring locking up everyone squirrelly.
But the end result in either case is disgusting, this incarceration rate is embarrassing, but political anathema to discuss for any politician. What the hell can we do about it?
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High Horse?
Woohoo!
Zed…are you out there??!!
1,822 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Firepup Freedom Fighters:
What a mornin’…worked all night and then get greeted by a burgeoning food shortage and a smack in the face with prison statistics. The God damned fascist criminals who have assaulted us with this last round of “Crisis Capitalism” should be marched off ta Leavenworth by way of Bagdad.
And if anyone fucks with me taday they’ll get the horns…if I hear one more whimper about sexism and misogyny I’m gunna turn this place out!!
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THERE’S NO PLACE TA HIDE!!
Well I for one am outraged and will not rest until I see someone in a jail cell for…
oh.
nevermind
Bong hits for Jesus. How un-american- shows you the basis for our decent to decadence. How many serving time for toking? @ $ 25,000. per inmate per year you would think (the operative word here) we would do better to squander our tax money environmental or educational opportunities,no?
And PLEASE- lets not forget the latest Scotus decision! Ya gotta love the land of the free!
Jenna’s wedding earrings. I know everyone was worried.
I promise I’ll behave — I do NOT want to face the wrath of Norske!
those are for a CORONATION,not a wedding,what utter horrific taste,brides wear,simple pearls ….
Maybe you should take a nap then.
It’s part of the other world.
Conspicuous consumption, or wretched excess, it’s what The Ruling Class goes in for. Gaudy doesn’t BEGIN to describe them…
Fukin A
plus iirc she is a no-neck monster,with no AUDREY HEPBURN neck,these will dazzle her shoulder blades methinks
[snort!] You’re right — she’d need a neck like a giraffe to pull them off. She’ll get bruises on her collarbones from them.
if you look at the best performing stocks ON WALL STREET…it is the prison industry!
yup,she takes after her doofus dad,sadly
Question: How are we going to feed all of these folks in prison? Do I detect a move toward prison farms again?
There are an awful lot of possibilites for really funny, nasty jokes here.
In Phoenix it’s bologna sammy’s.
We are the TEEVEE nation. The shift towards the high incarceration rate coincides with the successful dumbing down of the American electorate and — if as somel evidence suggests, it wasn’t all that smart to begin with — the denigration of the traditional elite that maintained a mnodicum of civilizede discourse in this country. Thank you, Ronald Reagan. Shining city on the hill, and all that jazz.
Let ‘er rip…
left ya a comment and a thank you downstairs,but you have a great idea there
the PRISON biz
http://money.cnn.com/magazines...../index.htm
Norske — Might I suggest you go take a nap, then, instead of trying to stir up a stink about something that Attaturk isn’t even talking about in his post?
To borrow from Dr. Phil, “How’s that working out for you?”
LOL Those are the earrings of an Oil Princess for gawd’s sake! Of course we were worried the earrings wouldn’t be perfect, would be cheap, and we were afraid they wouldn’t make a direct impact on the starving children of the planet! We want what’s best for our nation’s Oil Princess. Jees. Where your manners, Loo Hoo!
LMAO
Okay, going to work. Have a great day everyone. ;-)
Third time’s a charm?
Good Morning Attaturk and Firedogs
that is a stunner - I knew this was bad, but geesh half a million ?
btw - in our little county - about 3 dozen dfh’s (some of them dressed as priests and nuns) have chased CCA out by way of rescinded contract
there is gold in them thar hills!
OXFAM America Prez on CSPAN to talk about food shortages
yea lets waste some more money
yea,they look oily,cant wait to see the crown,hope its bigger than Judys tiara
The incarciration rate was increased on purpose, beginning with the
Rockefeller laws that were his campaign bedrock. Add in Reagan and
his jail’em regime and here we all are, years later with corporate
prisons soaking the government, staffing the government to increase
that prison population for profit… the all american talent for
turning anything into a scam, not to mention a disgrace.
we have definately run totally amuck
Agreed. Aren’t there some other people who should be standing trial?
OT - I see the Reps killed the Lilly Ledbetter bill.
LINK
From the article:
Funny how the word “filibuster” isn’t mentioned anywhere in the article.
I know! I know!
*raising hand*
GWB, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Addington, Rove, Yoo, Condi
and that’s just for starters
wow from Attas article
http://img.iht.com/images/2008.....son550.jpg
I so hope I get a top bunk
I bet that’s a directive from the top. Bush cannot cede defeat in this. Prolly after 2009 it will be quietly dropped.
Have a good one, everypup. Later.
It worked. You killed the thread!
that is just abusive,we give monkeys in the zoo more room,or they would kill each other too
Yep - but if we can get them convicted, I want of it to be that they have to agree to bring all their own food with them. Don’t want to have to feed those suckers.
hahaha
Funny — I don’t see any change in the frequency of comments before and after that point.
Definitely. Christy, is there any limit to how many times you can retry if you keep getting mistrials?
It was a joke, can’t you tell when youre being kidded?
hahahaha
real talent from Kos,read the rest
Cheers and Jeers: Thursday
by Bill in Portland Maine
Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 04:21:03 AM PDT
From the GREAT STATE OF MAINE…
The Maverick
(With humble apologies to Edgar Allan Poe)
Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered drunk and weary,
Over how John McCain, the candidate, could be such a frigging bore
While I watched him, taped, on Fox, thinking I’d rather be from a rafter hanging, suddenly there came a banging,
As of some one violently haranguing, haranguing the butler outside my condo door.
“‘Tis some hothead,” I muttered, “pounding on my condo door -
If it’s that Girl Scout harassing us with her cookies again, I’ll buy no more.” (I mean it–she’s way too pushy.)
Open here I flung the ornate mahogany door (imported from Italy, y’know), when, with many a wheeze and mutter,
In there stepped a codger of the Great Depression days of yore.
Not the least effort to wipe his shoes made he; not a minute stopped or stayed he;
But, with mien of lord or lady, coerced the condo maintenance guy to bring up a ladder which he climbed and then perched above my condo door –
That’s just fabulous!
The Sentencing Project was initially endowed by the estate of the late William Kunstler -
first heard of them watching Tulia, Texas: Scenes from the Drug War a documentary made by his daughters about that travesty
and oh yeah, Vanita Gupta is the sh…
that Maverick voted against equal pay
correction above -
McSexist didn’t show up to vote but publicly stated his opposition -
“I am all in favor of pay equity for women, but this kind of legislation, as is typical of what’s being proposed by my friends on the other side of the aisle, opens us up to lawsuits for all kinds of problems,” the expected GOP presidential nominee told reporters. “This is government playing a much, much greater role in the business of a private enterprise system.”
from the link -
Six Republicans joined Democrats in voting to advance the bill. They were Norm Coleman of Minnesota, Susan Collins of Maine, Gordon Smith of Oregon, Olympia Snowe of Maine, Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania and John Sununu of New Hampshire.
can you say trending Democrat ?, knew ya could
Completely OT, but odd.
Pointstar bought and then became BioShaft (who just got a $56million contract)
‘Pointstar Entertainment Corp. was incorporated on March 8, 2006, in the State of Nevada. Pointstar’s principal executive offices are located at Loft Office Building 3, Suite #104, P.O. Box 500449, Dubai, United Arab Emirates. Our telephone number is 011-971-4-367-1342. As of the date hereof, we have no revenue, limited operations and no significant assets.’
http://www.hotstocked.com/10qs.....03467.html
IRVINE, CA–(Marketwire - April 8, 2008) - BioShaft Water Technology Inc. (OTCBB: BSHF) (the “Company” or “BioShaft”) is pleased to announce that its patented technology the Hans BioShaft System has been selected as the sole provider of 13 domestic wastewater treatment plants in the municipality of Baghdad in Iraq.
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=841198
didja read the whole thing at Kos? just hilarious
Yep. I also printed it out to put on the desk of the hard-core Republican I delight in tormenting daily. (This is the one who confided to me, almost in tears, that he would be forced to vote for a Democrat in November.)
a little more
Perched upon a bust of Gore just above my condo door –
Perched, and scowled, and drooled a little, and nothing more.
Then this blindingly pale maverick beguiling my sad fancy into smiling,
By the grave and clueless decorum of the countenance he wore,
“Though thy hairline be receding and thy whiskers shaven, thou,” I said, “sureth looketh liketh a craven,
Ghastly grim and ancient media-hypnotizing maven wandering aimlessly from thy Straight Talk motor coach –- but since yer up there,
Tell me what thy lordly number-one campaign issue is. Is it above reproach?
Straight talk now — if I pull the lever for you, what am I voting for?”
Quoth the maverick, “Forever war.”
Startled at the stillness broken by reply so carelessly spoken,
“Doubtless,” said I, “what it utters is its only stock and store,
Caught from some Chimp-like ‘Decider’ whom unmerciful disaster
Followed fast and followed faster till his poll numbers fell through the floor –
And this maverick thinks it’s just swell to continue — more, more more???
‘Forever — forever war.’
its so good ,i should email it to keith
too bad we can’t get Vincent Price to read it aloud
oh i miss him
hhahahahahahahahahahahaa
Though thy hairline be receding and thy whiskers shaven, thou,” I said, “sureth looketh liketh a craven,
Ghastly grim and ancient media-hypnotizing maven wandering aimlessly from thy Straight Talk motor coach –- but since yer up there,
o/t
for Christy and other Mountaineer firepups -
West Virginia GOP Chair - raise cash or we “cease to exist”
AP
now if they could ONLY get rid of Jello Jay,why didnt he get PRIMARIED
Cause for celebration?..I’ll drink to that.
Germans, circa 1933, thought they lived in the greatest country in the world. Doubts began to creep in after Stalingrad. By 1945 they tragically realized the consequences of their belief in a myth.
I’m relieved to hear that. I was offline for a few days (canvassing in PA!) and I guess I’m still twitchy from some stuff in the threads yesterday.
yea,after it was complete rubble,slow learners i expecs
Some charts, and if you click on them, stats on crime and punishment:
by type of offense — note the relatively flat property crime and violent crime lines, compared with drug crime rates
jail incarceration rates by race/ethnicity - not a pretty picture
direct expenditures for police, judiciary, and corrections — note the % increase from corrections
many more stats here at the DOJ Bureau of Justice Statistics.
Here’s part of the prison story that doesn’t get talked about much in the mainstream media. This article, “The prison industry in the United States: big business or a new form of slavery?” from The Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG), states:
“The prison industry complex is one of the fastest-growing industries in the United States and its investors are on Wall Street. “This multimillion-dollar industry has its own trade exhibitions, conventions, websites, and mail-order/Internet catalogs. It also has direct advertising campaigns, architecture companies, construction companies, investment houses on Wall Street, plumbing supply companies, food supply companies, armed security, and padded cells in a large variety of colors.”
According to the Left Business Observer, the federal prison industry produces 100% of all military helmets, ammunition belts, bullet-proof vests, ID tags, shirts, pants, tents, bags, and canteens. Along with war supplies, prison workers supply 98% of the entire market for equipment assembly services; 93% of paints and paintbrushes; 92% of stove assembly; 46% of body armor; 36% of home appliances; 30% of headphones/microphones/speakers; and 21% of office furniture. Airplane parts, medical supplies, and much more: prisoners are even raising seeing-eye dogs for blind people.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/i.....8;aid=8289
Take a look at http://www.unicor.gov/, to see the services and products offered in the name of prisoner training.
I still don’t like what happened there either, disturbing that Jim Crow
did not completely migrate to the republican brand… bodes ill.
Unfortunately, running for Senate is really hard and really expensive (even in a relatively cheap state like WV), so compared to Congress, it’s tough to find someone to take a shot at it. And while we’re pissed at him, I don’t think Jello Jay is particularly unpopular back home.
Holy crap! McCain wants 4 more wars — is he heavily invested in private prisons so he’ll make a buck?
Well, I better get going to work. See you on the flip side!
Byrd + Jay + Unions = heavily Dem state
. . .that votes the socially conservative agenda every f’in time, the perfect Rovian foil
Senator Hardin Smith 2012 !
We had a friend who got caught in the war on drugs. He unwittingly transported some drug dealers, who when caught, fingered him. Because he had a rather nice plane with good electronics, the confiscation of the plane seemed to be the prime target. The druggies were all lined up to testify against him. He lied and pled guilty to get a lesser sentence as the lawyer said it looked like they were headed toward a conviction with all the testimony against him and the feds wanting to keep the plane.
So he hired a “prison consultant” who helped him get into the best prison, he got advice on how to behave to get reductions. He got out in two years, did a year of supervision. At least his cello wasn’t confiscated and now he is back to playing. No more flying, though.
I wonder if prison consultants make more than college admissions consultants.
I’ve never heard of prison consultants, but it makes a certain amount of sense - money always talks.
Morning, all;
The ‘War on Drugs’ was the ‘test run’, to see how much ‘they’ could get away with …
they passed the test errrrr with flying colors methinks
Thank you for this posting, Attaturk. I caught just a bit of this info on the car radio [Osgood Report, I think] and the statistics are appalling. The numbers of people per capita in prison in the “US” compared to other “civilized” countries and the policies that put them there are beyond understanding.
Except for the fact that the sheeple are far more interested in why Tim McGraw isn’t taking Faith Hill on tour with him or what Eliot Spitzer does in his spare time.
No wonder we are such easy pickin’s for the likes of Murdoch and OPEC.
Now this is something I did not know. So that’s were the American manufacturing industry has gone - forget off-shoring.
And I still believe that the abuse of prisoners in Iraq etc. has some of its roots in the American prison industry.
That’s the um… plane truth, sadly …
And we despise the Chinese for doing the same thing?
And thanks to our Republican advocates in the Senate, “the poor, pitiful, weak employers are protected from uppity workers who want fair pay according to work done instead of gender, age, color, etc.. Businessmen will rest easy on their Sleep Number mattresses and 500 thread sheets tonight.” The Lily Ledbetter Fair Play Act was killed in the Senate yesterday, after being passed in the house.
There is almost a perfect correlation between the crime rate and the number of 18 to 35 year old males in the population….Get a little spike in one and you’ll see a spike in the other.
OT—i just started a revolt, HURRAH!!!
the local radio show, called about the lilly ledbetter fair pay act, people started calling in about it……voinavich, he voted nay-he said because amendment procedures weren’t followed…..
people call in about issues, their own, but this time people started joinin in on each others’….
took a while, but it’s happening…..wow it feels good to hear people asking for more info and using it…..wow…..
some around here do, but i’ve heard a lot more new voices calling in for phone numbers and giving info…..
the host just now said let’s get 500 people to call, flood his officesl……i didn’t say that part…
i also reminded people to call harry reid….
202-224-3121
800-450-8293
and then a lady called about an article in a union magazine (don’t know which one) about elaine chao–it gave a website.
www.shameonelaine.org
thanks fdl, without your guidance and information i never would have developed a plan on how to get info out, and wouldn’t have done it in a miilion years.
(and i forgot to say, cuz i’m humble, guess i’m not anymore by saying this, but many many people keep saying today during their calls how much they appreciated my ’reasoned’ opinion and information…one guy said if i don’t want to give my name, could i give a nickname so they can quit calling me ’that lady’……hey es-so ya think turtle with the spunky bullhorn would do?)
bbl, gonna go plant some herbs…..just had to share.
((((fdl))))
you betcha!
you write so very well– thank you.
“Just tell ‘em ‘dmac’ sent you.”
Has a nice ring to it, dontcha think?
Congrats!
That’s the way to do it, dmac.
A BIG good on you!
And good on people for waking up and standing up.
Optimism in the air …
Sorry, Ive never known he could talk…
Sorry for being OT but I have to vent.
You smell the desperation in the air? There’s an old guy sensing his mortality and running to justify his life. There’s an old lady after years of humiliation running to justify her pain. We’re here trying to run away from the ruin we’re in for.
Actually, Demosthenes, I think reality is slowly growing on us …
Its just a question of ‘timimg’.
‘timing’ (synapse, oh synapse! where are yoooou? Come here, good synapse …)
The last two elections were about tribal instinct. Me vote for alpha male. This one is just about plain stupidity. Joe Scary and Pat Butch on MSNBC was shoving out Repub cowpies to the gullible masses as “facts”. Obama isn’t electable. McCain is a “maverick”. Harold Ford was trying to flip it on them but they are will trained. They know people take as truth whatever “impartial” newsies say.
Well said, and funny, but I do think reality is dawning, however slowly, more thoughtful conversations with people, every day, suggest that some ‘news’ is getting through, people HAVE noticed, they just need a clear vision of what they would, already, like to see … people sense it in their ‘bones’, it just hasn’t ‘trickled up’, yet.
Madison (who got the big h/t from his peers as “Father of the Constitution” and “Father of the Bill of Rights”) argued strongly for free speech, Habeas Corpus, and as mentioned, the right to bear arms.
He viewed the right to bear arms first and foremost as being embedded within a tight articulation of The People, local militias and local governance, particularly as the New Republic was still commercially triangulated with Britain and France & was itself internally squabbling about relative strength of the three branches of government (and States’ rights). In particular, Madison locked horns with the Federalists, who though having ‘defected’ from Britain, still favored a strong central government of their own, “with a powerful independent Executive branch.” — Sound Familiar??? Madison was a strong advocate for checks and balances to limit special interests.
The Second Amendment was intended to be a mechanism in service of such limitations, but not without
the vital connectivity of representation — through both militias and local governance.
What is striking is that when one thinks of militias in this modern time, what usually comes to mind are two entities — 1) law enforcement, who are not tertiary to either The People or the Government, but who are of service to the Government and comprised of The People and 2) grassroots militias, who bear something of outlaw status at the moment, comprised of The People, yet (distinctly) not articulated with the Government.
The fact that the functional ‘articulated’ element Madison envisioned (among The People, Militias and the Government) is missing can probably be considered a correlate of the degree of lethality of arms sought, and the lobbying thereof — the ‘perversion’ of the 2nd Amendment that was mentioned.
Further, the absence of this articulated Militia link — (if only from a militia-organized information dissemination-conduit functionality) — is probably part of why our nation has fallen into this current status of ‘police state.’ Quite succinctly, very few know ‘how things work’ until the tripwires are activated. Would it be different if the Three Branches of government interlocked with the Triple-Dynamic of the Individual, the Militia, and local governance? Can we even conceive of how a militia would look in modern times? Is it something like The Grassroots, only with more legs and more teeth?
It is especially in such instances that the interdependence of the Amendments (1 through 8 specifically) becomes poignant and quite evident.
Additional Reading: Federalist No. 46
(sorry 2b L8 2da party.
but I lurves me some Mad Jamminson : )