The story so far: Jimmy goes to meet with Hamas, saying that the Bush people didn't object. Condi sez they did. Jimmy sez Condi's lying. Who should we believe?
Well, considering that Condi's lied to us about this and this and all of this and this and this and a whole bunch of other rather important things I can't fit into what's supposed to be a shortish post, I think I'll go with the old peanut farmer, thanks.
As Atrios said way back in March of 2004, Condi is the worst of the lot when it comes to Bush Junta liars: "Her first instinct seems to be to lie - she frequently seems to do it when it isn't even necessary. Or, maybe, she just isn't any good at it. But, in any case it's long past the time when anyone should give her the benefit the doubt about anything she says or does."
And that was a full four years ago. She's told a lot more lies since then. (By the way: Kofi Annan sez Jimmy did the right thing.)
To see video of Condi lying, go to www.CondiMustGo.com, and check out the petition there while you're at it. Thanks!
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It’s what she and Junja saw in each other many years ago: the lying.
The story so far: Jimmy goes to meet with Hamas, saying that the Bush people didn’t object. Condi sez they did. Jimmy sez Condi’s lying. Who should we believe?
Thats a no brainer tell me when has Condi ever been right about anything or not lying?
Now tell me one time Jimmy Carter lied, made a mistake sure but lied?
not ‘her’ again.
they each recognized each other’s inner ugly
I have a theory…she’s a robot..she’s a drone….a wind up toy…for toyboy..
can you digg it?
For even more of Condi lying, watch any video in which she opens her mouth.
A Stepford Secretary of State
Is it just me, or does she sound like she’s afraid of what will happen when she’s done speaking? There’s so much stress in her voice, like the burden of keeping the official narrative in place is ripping her vocal chords to shreds.
Just my $.05.
Check this stuff out…holy wee, wee.. shadow market..:
http://www.npr.org/templates/s.....d=89338743
and this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_default_swap
you must be a racist to side with the rich southern white guy against the black woman
the closing /snark tag got lost
Basically, I think she just isn’t a very good liar. Nor has she had to be, since oversight seems to be dead.
Well who do you really believe?
Jimmy Carter once naively told Playboy magazine that “he lusted in his heart.”
Apparently no forethought as to how that statement might be perceived.
Condi never makes a statement, true or false, without trying to imagine how it will be perceived.
Problem for her is, she’s not very smart and she has no discernible talent for speaking in public.
Fabulous clothes, empty suit.
Condi is the worst of the lot when it comes to Bush Junta liars: “Her first instinct seems to be to lie - she frequently seems to do it when it isn’t even necessary. Or, maybe, she just isn’t any good at it
She is a bad liar because she is not convincing Bush is not convincing because he does not care if he gets caught he knows that he will never face the consequences so he does not bother to try to make his lies convincing.
Now how did Condi become such a bad liar her background is not like Bush’s.
My take who would believe a former Boomer Captain or a dalliance like Condi??
No it sounds like she is afraid.
So why does she do it.
She Chaired the Torture Committee of the NSC Principals.
She’s ‘all in.’
perhaps afraid of what charges she will face after bushco?
It’s not the quality of the lying anymore. It’s the audacity and frequency of the lies.
Aloha, Suz! I hope your day was an improvement over the past weekend…!
Has anyone in her fawning press entourage — WaPo’s Karen DeYoung and Glenn Kessler, I’m looking at you! — asked Secretary Rice about the Principals’ Torture Club she chaired at the White House, where “enhanced interrogation techniques” were discussed for each application to each detainee, sometimes with demonstrations?
And why not?
She’s McCain’s ideal running mate. Both are complete phonies, and they’ll both say ANYTHING.
Bush’s people are nothing if not audacious and frequent liars!
yep - she’s been front and center in every stupid act of criminality with the possible exception of Plamegate
dropped the ball before 9-11
(It’s the Russians we should fear)
complicit in torture
very poor performance before and after the appointment to State
I hate getting conned…
Honestly…does Condi seem real? I think she’s a Robot..a drone…
No wonder Trump said she flies all over the place…ever noticed that…she’s always in the air… flying here…flying there…never accomplishes shizzola…who can do that???? 24/7 in the air…diplomacy…gimme a break…that does not make sense…it is not possible.
Trump said that she appears everywhere and “never closes the deal”….
Of course not… a robot is a tool…
Condi is a blow-up doll.
No???
Actually, I agree with John Dean, and think that Addington is numero uno for impeachment…! His grubby paws are all over everything…
Has any one ever done a biography on her? She seems like an interesting piece of psychology …
there aren’t many politicians who i consider basically honest (although not necessarily in rice’s class of liar). but carter is one of them. i’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. rice? like everyone in the bush administration, i just assume she’s lying.
I guess he would say “You’re fired.” Good deal. Thanks. I had not heard his assessment.
It’s almost a reflexive response to these sorry F*ckers…!
i see her more like a true believer, I think there’s something like the stockholm syndrome about her … I think she believes what she says, however twisted the reality
I think that was true of Alberto, also. Just so close to the Bush power, I guess, then cannot separate themselves.
i think it’s kinda spooky, once i read she calls Dubya “the husband”. I mean that’s REALLY kind’ve like an uber Aunt Jemima kind’ve thing … I keep thinking there has to be some kind of severe psychology going on with her …but I’m not a psychologist so it’s just more of an intutive feel than anything else.
OT
The Bank for International Settlements reported the notional amount on outstanding OTC credit default swaps to be $42.6 trillion
I’m pretty sure thats bigger than the National debt and the total vaule of the top 30 companies in the DOW Jones average. This is not good.
fork
She’s in way over her head. Think she got involved with Dubya as thanks to his dad for mentoring her career…a Faustian bargain.
It’s always bothered me that she seems to feel so beholden to others for the opportunities she’s been given. She should have stayed at Stanford. She could have had a good life.
And for me it has been a sort of creepy feel. She could be a pretty woman, but she is school-marm, icy instead. Mean, may be better as we know more about her.
She’s from a church going family I wonder if she’s worried about the consequences after life.
really. I can’t believe any one would give up tenure at Stanford.
ct, not really - same shit just a different day - still looks like shit even after getting sleep :(
Exactly…
I don’t think anyone makes the mistake about “my husband” unless there is something there. That is not an accident.
There is “there, there”…JMHO
Purely in the interest of accuracy, I don’t think Jimmy ever skipered a boomer. He was in line to, but never got there. Takes nothing away from him, though. Rickover was a tough sumbitch to work for, thank god.
It’s not the quality of the lying anymore. It’s the audacity and frequency of the lies.
Yeah that smells of fear and desperation, but about what there is so much to choose from I wonder what she really fears?
Hey, everyone! Sorry I’m late — there’s beer in the fridge and some wine in the wine rack.
I couldn’t agree more with ya! 8-(
Way back during the 911 Commission and Condi’s testimony, I couldn’t believe the way the media reported on her remarks.
I went searching on the tubes to see if anyone else noticed what a lying shill she was. Long story short I discovered DailyKos and through that, in 2005 and the Plame investigation, FDL.
So I have something to thank Condi for. Not a lot in the big scheme of things, but I do value my sanity.
Yupper.
A-yep.
I could understand it if she actually had a husband.
Unthinkable without one.
i know, that was FREUDIAN … with CAPS and UNDERLINE …
Don’t you read the NY Times she has a husband…well not really.
Correct about Carter. Hard to imagine how Rickover would have coped with the politicizing of today’s military. He was the definition of “old school”. *g*
OT-got back out of bed to let everyone know another liar is on charlie rose–raum emmanuel….charlie described him as a good friend of obama and clinton.
just missed the video clips.
and the last half hour is the ceo of p&g, i think…
nite
well yeah, i’ll go with that
Addington is an effective miscreant
condi is just there
She’s inCondipetent.
-G
Look. There is another market going on. A shadow market.
There is a scam going on. The biggest gambling deal ever.
Get this.
My mother told me tonight that George and Laura were on CNN talking about Jenna’s big day in two weeks in Crawford.
Earlier today I read that will also be the new moon then.
I am very nervous.
Will America be sidetracked as all the “news” organization cover “the most romantic event of the 21st century” ™ and miss hearing about some strikes on that Al Qaeda hotbed, Iran?
Yes.
worst gap of all? bloody molluscs.
gap every time they open their spineless shells.
and all those eyes - just looking about - hard enough to trust two, man: who can trust dozens?
Enough, I say! Col Blimp and I are off to give those traitors to chordata a good “what-for”…soon as the parking meters lead the way to the [oyster] bar
in a white wine sauce with shallots
Hi all. Quick drive by. Thought I’d drop off a lite snack.
Rickover was an interesting bird. He was very much of the kiss up/kick down school, a trait that would eventually bite him in the ass. I expect he would do his best to make Bush think he was going along with the program while subtly undermining it (or trying to).
On “Charlie Rose” ……… Rahm just gives me the creeps.
Oooh! You brought beignets! Yummy!
Dr. Rice is a famous practitioner of a mundane problem. It pre-dates Henry Kissinger, but he rechristened it with the aphorism, “Academic politics are so fierce because the stakes are so low.”
Dr. Rice’s fierce, I-wish-I-were-Cheney style of bureaucratic infighting comes from that milieu. She’s honed it finely since joining team Bush. Lying is just a tool of the trade. Like being able to tell the Shrubster with a straight face that he’s “the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being she’s ever known in her life.”
She’s simply unwilling or unable to tell the difference between little lies that make the social wheels turn, and big ones that set them on fire.
nope! not during Passover.
Speaking of which ….. if you are also tired of Matzah, click here for a cute video. Tired of Matzah yet?
And the Today was having Laura Co-host. What’s that about? I pointedly do not watch. What silliness. Did they talk about torture?
Are there any Condiments to go with that?
I think Condi was trying to keep the support of the hard line Israel people who don’t want Carter to talk peace. But trying to lie about an exPres when you have major credibility problems just makes things worse.
If Condi was a Dem what do you want to bet that the media would be full of stories about Democrats lying about betraying Israel?
These are beignets, from Cafe Du Monde, natch.
Condiliar Rice. Worst Secretary of State ever!
I live about a mile from there
Condi Rice and a Ms. Bean bought a house together from a mutual friend who is an openly gay man. Rice may be a self-loathing Log Cabin Republican type of individual.
A little dough with your powdered sugar and caffeine? Looks delicious.
*gentle reminder*
there are certain words that are not permitted at the lake that are offensive no matter how they are used.
please keep this in mind when writing comments
thank you
More intrigue about the Israeli strike on a disputed location in Syria.
The US alleges video tapes show North Korean nuclear technicians offering Syria assistance.
Who knows where this is leading.
-G
To “nervana”..
must.risk.molluscofowlists.
off to corner store
the eyes - the beaks - arrrrgh
Please don’t add “snack” to that list!
I must say…it took them helluva long time to create the evidence…”
F’them…..
Thats one theory although between her and Chris Mathews another suspected closet case the gay community has to do more outreach to tell youngsters its ok to be gay.
But life in the closet changes you it won’t make you straight or happy just changed and strange.
That’s right; the Rapture just like these people opine when they say we have to live out the vision/judgement of Revelations 2000 years ago. Yep, alot of hard Truth in that. More likely, a rapture to thrill the W need to have himself a little war.
They are fabulous, a complete mess to eat, but so what? Now that Cafe Du Monde has expanded around the area I can get my sugar dough fix without going across the lake. Mmmmmmm…..
Are you in Mandeville?
I love that place and think I must have eaten hundreds. My daughter says it’s the first place she’s going to when she arrives in late April.
ot- Just found out my cousin, who was working on water projects in Zambia, has died in Africa. A compassionate soul, he was, and now the world is poorer.
Just west of there in Madisonville.
Have you eaten the Mallorca pastry at la Bombonera in Old San Juan, PR?
(((AdAstra))), my sympathies on your and the world’s loss.
mine too, Ad Astra
For donuts it’s gotta be from Timmy’s. (Canadian pride here. lol) I now live in the founding city of Tim Horton’s. The first store is down the street from where I live and it has a historic plaque on it. They are everywhere here.
Sympathies and prayers AdAstra
Mmm, beignets!
AdAstra, I’m sorry for your loss.
Yummmy!
So sorry for your loss.
I wonder how many times Condi has turned in a letter of resignation over her rivalry with Cheney. And how many times the husband has wooed her back.
Tough loss.
Good thoughts, AdAstra.
Thanks. Makes me realize again the legions of people walking around with loads of grief and ache. I get damn mad at the petty politics that consume so much time, money, and energy. There is real work to be done, one less real worker.
Well…the rapture myth.
Revelations…?? Well. Advice to followers.
Tend your gardens and love one another.
Sorry to hear that…Hugs.
I’m so sorry. God, it never ends…it never ends…
It never ends.
I am so sorry for your and our loss.
R.I.P.
i am so sorry for your loss
Really? My father worked for Rickover his whole career (nuclear engineer), but come to think of it, he didn’t talk about him a whole lot, other than occasional mention of fairly generic work stuff. The one good story I remember is from when he was interviewing for the job:
“Admiral Rickover barked ‘Do you want this job just because you’ve gotten married and you want to get out of going to sea?’
I assured him that no, that wasn’t why. Of course, I didn’t want to go to sea, but that’s not why I wanted the job.”
Nothing will ever stop life. Life will never cease. Life is what “this” is. We are it.
it is pretty funny. Cheney’s personally installed government Hamas, it was him and his meat puppet that ordered the election that installed Hamas. Someone claiming Jimmy Carter is lying about something is hilarious enough. The idea of his credibility being questioned is really beyond the beyond now. And coming from a spokesliar that is known to be incompetent in every aspect of her job?
amazing
Good evening folks.
Winning at all costs is all that matters to these criminal neocons. Condy thinks every lie is a huge victory. Fucking sociopath.
good night all. early, early meeting tomorrow.
My latest fantasy…
Jimmy Carter kicks Dick Cheney’s *ss..once and forever…
nite Betsy, have a sweet sleep
((hugs))
Kofi Annan defends Jimmy Carter over Hamas talks
They will never learn because it’s not in their interest(s) to learn. And the plan goes forward, without real opposition.
He can do it.
She’s a LSOS with an oil tanker named after her.
No Nobel Peace Prize in the picture.
((((hug))))
pain free sleep wishes, tex
Indeed.
How are you doing tonight, Quebecois? Spouse took the Nokian studded tires off our bikes the other day, so it’s officially spring here!
G’night, Betsy!
Hiya Margot!
Bonne nuit Betsy.
Sad times Adastra, mes condoléances.
Bionic, I’m in Hamilton a dozen times a year.
Hi Chris, hi all!
thanks yall.
zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Hi pups,
speaking of lying, it bothers me no end when people get their tailfeathers in a fuffle about calling out Hillary on her sniper story. I mean, yeah, I know we’ve had nothing but BS for seven years, but come on, we’re supposed to want change? So don’t climb on anyone’s back for expecting people to tell true stories, not false ones. She brought the “tough” stuff on herself by actively choosing to tell a tall one. Let Condi et al do the lying. Crikey.
In response to newtonusr @ 23
And they each have more than enough Frequent Liar Miles for a one-way ticket to The Hague!
FunnyDiva
CONdoleeza Rice.
Liar.
Hey PW. I’m changing my tubes on the road bike, spring has finally arrived in Montréal. And it’s amazing to see the trees budding up so fast. New computer with a wide screen monitor bigger than my tv, the pictures on this are so vibrant.
Doing fine, thank you. I specially liked that student slapping some sense into Ashcroft… God times!
I dunno, whenever I see “obvious lies” I tend to assume it’s BSing. She’s achieved her purpose; most people (who aren’t attuned as we are to notice that she always lies) will have at least some doubt about who’s telling the truth (especially since Carter had no reason to tell his version until he had to respond to their lies.)
But it’s certainly true that Condi isn’t particularly good at BSing, either.
What a week! I think that after PA primary, I’m going to turn off all news on tv. Well, maybe not Keith, but everyone else. Right now, I’m concentrating on finding an apt. in New York City for Patty. Crazy!
PW, your hometown paper reported this…
Is he lying…? /s
It’s a Powell moment.
Let us bow down.
/s
My husband was what was known as a “Rickover boy” at the Naval Academy. Once he ran into Rickover, he had no choice of major or much of anything until he quit the nuclear navy.
Night, all….the birds will be singing early enough.
Her official name in the Senate is Condolieza Lies a Lot…h/t SNL.
Excellent! I’m enjoying my new helmet and the rearview mirror mount. I like being able to see what’s behind me!
Gotta go, everybody. Be nice to Suzanne, OK?
(((Ad Astra and cousin and family)))
g’nite pw
so why is impeachment off the table?
If SNL can mock her, why can’t we, the people?
That’s exactly it. Cheney wanted all out confrontations with anyone who wasn’t on board. And that’s been her demeanor from the moment 9/11 happened.
On the other hand, I often wonder if she’s so far gone, that she really believes the crap she’s spewing. I mean, can one always be on guard, so that every narrative fits the bill??
Rice rationing?
Why don’t we just pull the Condoleeza brand off the market?
Bonne nuit PW. Roll on…
I wonder if Condi’s scared to tell the truth.
My father’s comment on his marriage?
“Hell, I never asked for shore duty in the first place.”
(spoken kindly, nevertheless)
Aloha, PW!
I’ve never watched TV news (other than Keith and the Daily Show), so needless to say, I think you’d be better off without it. I’ve always gotten most of my news from print sources; I find the bits of radio news I catch annoying enough, never mind TV.
i don’t do print except online versions. i guess i get my news in fonts.
Taleb: “Knowledge is overrated.”
Sinatra: “Do-be-do-be-do.”
I wonder if she could recognise teh truth?
Just cuz no one’s COVERING this issue, info on PA voting ‘discreps’.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5924
Course, there’s this too:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5915
The elections are rigged, in SO many ways.
Why don’t FDL discuss, report or investigate these issues?
They will determine the fate of progressives, conservatives, liberals, and everyone else.
So why no coverage, FDL?
Doobie? Where? Let’s burn one. Single Zig Zag!
Sleep well, PW!
*humming dum de dum dum* (theme from dragnet)
“When The Moon Hits Your Eye….”
This administration from top to bottom don’t care about the REAL TRUTH only what they pass off as their truth…
I would like to see any examples of them telling the real truth!
Fly Me To The Moon
I heart Ken Lee!
Thanks for sharing that story. I should really talk to my dad and learn more.
I am strapped in and in my yupright position!
Plato: To do is to be.
Shakespeare: To be or not to be?
Sinatra: doo be doo be doo
Hi Larue, I’m going to click through to read, thanks.
I listened to an interview of a NCAAP lawyer that challenges voter disenfranchisement cases all over the country. it was really interesting. It was on Green 960 which is Air America here in the bay area.
Did someone mention a dubie???
I wonder if she dares. I’m thinking W might not be there to support his minions when his support is needed, or that she’s been warned…
haha, that would be the next line for sure.
I can’t really take credit for that stuff. Legend has it that it appeared as graffiti in the men’s room of the philosophy dept at Berkeley. I have absolutely no confirmation…
Zig Zag, single paper, one hand. Fat bomb with tops, no seeds or stems.
It was a skill, long since abandoned.
Condi strikes me as being too “queenie” to care about telling us peasants the truth as we know it.
So many songs - - ya’ll are great
Me but it was forced on me… dam… northern cal grows the best…
The women who er…knew…her when she came up to SF from Stanford for “stress relief” said she was quite the subject.
The bigger the boots, the more eagerly they submit.