zed?

Eureka!

Hi ES, I’m thinking that maybe some troops will do the reporting since they are seriously ticked that sleepy iraqis get credit for their hazardous duty…aint’ that a kick in the butt?

Good evening, neurophius.

g’evening, eureka

I should add that I am not slurring the iraqis, only the proponents of the unending propoganda ad nauseum.

Surprised it doesn’t happen more often.

BTW, if folks venture over to the ME blog, be sure and double click on the photo for better viewing.

Good evening, Suz. Missed ya this week..

I only caught that story of angry troops in passing and wondered how it “got out”.

Yes, the photo is powerful.

twas good to get some down time, eureka.

Sorry, EPU’d:

Loohoo:

I wonder if she dares. I’m thinking W might not be there to support his minions when his support is needed, or that she’s been warned…

Support is the last thing W is worried about. They’re all there to make sure Cheney and W come out of their putsch unscated and glorious. She’ll happily take the fall if W doesn’t sign an open letter of pardon for her.

Hi ES. Saw Radiohead, in early 2000, give a mind blowing performance in Montréal. Under the stars, with a view of downtown…

Would be a lot easier to venture a guess about Condi’s behavior if we could just see her behavior under OATH!

under OATH!

Do you really believe she would say the truth??? I think that every single one of these folks working at the pleasure of the W, would lie their soul out. Just because…

For those firedogs who remember me talking about floods in ES.. well the water levels have hardly dropped at all and we are in the midst of flooding rains again. Not good.

Good evening ES. I did a little digging for ya!

I think putting Condi under oath would be kind of like throwing a bucket of water on the Wicked Witch of the West. She would melt before your eyes.

Thanks nahant, always the gentleman digger..)

Not Radiohead, but a nice sunset during a blues fest.

We try :>)

Damn, I was going to ask you about that. Keep safe.

This is not the way to win the hearts and minds…

BAGHDAD – Civilians caught up in the crossfire during raging street battles between Shiite militiamen and security forces in Baghdad’s Shiite bastion Sadr City are blaming an unseen danger – US military snipers.

Medics at Al-Sadr Hospital say some bullet wounds are difficult to explain as being caused by random fire.

“Random shots usually hit anywhere, but these people have wounds on specific parts of the body … like their stomachs and legs,” said Doctor Ala Haider.

We’re at the top of the watershed (so I am safe).. That photo is below the highest dam in the region and running over four more damns ranging from 1100 to 750 feet high..

FBI Director Mueller say he pulled out FBI agents from interrogations and Warned the CIA and Pentagon That What They Were Doing Was Illegal

I got this email from congressman Wexler today:

This morning, during a hearing in the House Judiciary Committee, I questioned FBI Director Robert Mueller on his agency’s response to claims – made by his own FBI agents – that the CIA was torturing prisoners. I wanted to find out why, if the FBI’s own agents had alleged illegal actions were taking place, there was no investigation into the CIA’s illegal and immoral practices.

Mueller’s responses, which I would like you to read below, create new concerns and call for further investigation in the days ahead.

I believe Mr. Mueller owes more to Congress and the American people than the half-answers he gave in his testimony today.

I would urge you to contact the editors and news departments of your local media and ask them to look into the responses below. It is critical that this discussion takes place beyond emails and blogs – and is covered by the mainstream media.

In two weeks the Judiciary Committee will be holding hearings to investigate the fact that the highest levels of the Bush Administration sanctioned and ordered the torture of prisoners in United States custody. This is intolerable and we must vigorously oppose this policy that demeans our nation and offends our conscience.

Please read the below transcript of my exchange with Mr. Muller.

This is a deeply troubling interchange which should be alarming to all Americans.

Congressman Robert Wexler

If any would like the transcript he included it and I can post it for you.

Nice bridge. Can you imagine if a dam burts???

In 96, a dam burst on the saguenay river, and a part of the city of Chicoutimi was wiped out. A week later, I was in Tadoussac, watching refrigirators float by.

UN walkout over Gaza ‘Nazi’ remarks

The Western UN ambassadors walked out of the meeting in dismay by the approach

The US, Britain, France and other members have walked out of a closed meeting of the UN Security Council after Libya compared the situation in Gaza to Nazi concentration camps in World War II.

Diplomats said France’s UN ambassador walked out, followed by his Western colleagues, after the Libyan envoy made the remarks during a debate on Gaza.

Council members were meeting privately on Wednesday to discuss the possibility of issuing a compromise press statement that would have highlighted the dire humanitarian situation in Gaza while also contributing positively to efforts to reach an Israeli-Palestinian settlement.

The walkout was a rare protest by diplomats on the UN’s most powerful body against one of their own members. Libya is the only Arab representative on the council.

Nazi comparison

According to several diplomats, Ibrahim Dabbashi, Libya’s deputy UN ambassador, ended a long speech about the plight of the Palestinians by comparing the situation in Gaza to the concentration camps set up by Nazi Germany to exterminate Jews.

excellent musical selection, ES. I’ve been wearing out that new Radiohead disk.

Late Night, Right? I came across this “funny” story of self-fulfilling mass-hysteria (I can say that, right…this story deals with MEN!) which shows just how easily an irrational idea can spread.
Penis Shrinkage Panic Strikes City

I especially like the problem that the guys who think they are affected can’t get erections, because they are so stressed out that they can’t get erections.

Hey!…Can someone start this rumor at the RNC Convention? Or would it really matter?

I think a more apt comparison is apartheid in South Africa, but…

spew

A whole lot of folks have already found out why they cannot find an insurance company who will sell them flood ins.. And they are constantly doing patchwork on these dams as it is.

But there’s a slight matter of executive privilege, which would free Condi from testifying under oath or testifying at all in fact. But, executive privilege disappears in an impeachment inquiry. HINT. FUCKING. HINT.

This is fascinating…

Italian researchers claim they are first to have found dark matter

Researchers led by Dr Rita Bernabei at the University of Rome claim that a giant detector inside the mountain laboratory has picked up signs of dark matter. The signal suggests that it could be made of theoretical particles known as axions. The discovery was announced at a physics conference in Venice. The experiment was designed to detect dark matter in space as Earth flies through it.

More on Wexler at Kos:linky

How dare Libya make such an inapt comparison! The actually parallel is to the Jewish ghettos established in Warsaw and many other Eastern European cities…not Concentration camps!

Couldn’t agree more… The same thing they’re trying to do with Sadr City these days…!

Exactly! And phrasing it that way would have put him in the good company of Jimmy Carter, and a large number of eloquent, sensitive Israelis. Why blow it?

I don’t know much about radiohead.. but you know I am a sucker for your high praise.. Will check it out.

This old school CD just arrived today.. It’s really good.

How dare Libya make such an inapt comparison!

Lybia, Dubya… Both dumber than a rock.

I’m outa here.

Bonne nuit tout le monde.

Yo ‘reka, I replied to your myspace message. Masters were delayed leaving Tennessee by a day and a half. Life in the foood chain. May have them tomorrow, more likely Friday.

Aloha, Quebecois!

nite quebecois

That’s the comparison I always think about.

That is what I received from Wexler today…. lets hope it leads to Impeachment proceedings for these bastards…The more we learn the more most people are disgusted,,, now lets also hope Nancy gets off of her dead ass and throws the dam table away and listens to the people of this country… but I doubt even if you held a gun to her head that she would budge….Shirley Golub is running against her in the Dem primary… here is her website http://www.shirley08.com/

Got it, thanks! Will be watching your page.

I think a more apt comparison is apartheid in South Africa, but…

That would be the West Bank and the Bantustans. These were split up by “nationality”…and usual given puppet leaderships. Israel sort of tried that by encouraging a Hamas – Al Fatah division…but to really pull it off they would need to start giving certain municipalities privileges if local leaders split from Fatah and Hamas and went off in different directions. In exchange they’d be bought off, and protected, with their villages or cities getting first dibbs on work passes, etc. That’s how S.Africa was able to hold onto power for so long. Of course, they also had the help of some pretty hefty Western powers and folks like Reagan and Bush Daddy.

Wonder how McCain voted on all those apartheid bills…probably like his votes on MLK Day.

Whoa…Dana Milbank takes the Pentagon out back behind the woodshed…

What the Family Would Let You See, the Pentagon Obstructs

Lt. Col. Billy Hall, one of the most senior officers to be killed in the Iraq war, was laid to rest yesterday at Arlington National Cemetery. It’s hard to escape the conclusion that the Pentagon doesn’t want you to know that.

Wonder how McCain voted on all those apartheid bills…probably like his votes on MLK Day.

Sure.
The shocking attempt he’s pursuing now to polish his US race-relations cred is thunderously disingenuous. So I’m sure if we took a look, we’d find the same worms under his rock wrt apartheid.

finger lickin’ good!

Funky great horns!

late to thread – had to dodge the molluscofowlistiscts on the way home from the oyster bar…(Col Blimp inisted: I wanted to stay home and flay pheasants peasants)

oops – channeling Condi there about the peasants

Galloping gourmet?

damn: molluscofowlicsts.

slimy little terrorists got into my spellcheck

This administration has no respect for our fallen heroes! and McCain voted no to improve their benefits. I don’t know how any one could vote for him especially our soldiers and vets…. sorry bastard. And they say the Democrats don’t care about our soldiers Ya right!

Galloping gourmet?

Sorry ES – they had so winded I didn’t even say “hi”.

But in the spirit of Graham Ker: a little wine for the dish…a lot more wine for us!

Hmm…should we say it’s spread by the ventilation system or by hotel sample shampoos/body washes?

And the American people, by and large, actually buy it! It is sickening!

Penis Shrinkage Panic Strikes City

quote of the day:

Some Kinshasa residents accuse a separatist sect from nearby Bas-Congo province of being behind the witchcraft in revenge for a recent government crackdown on its members.

kirk, is that kinda a reverse placebo effect?

Penis Shrinkage Panic Strikes City

quote of the day:

Some Kinshasa residents accuse a separatist sect from nearby Bas-Congo province of being behind the witchcraft in revenge for a recent government crackdown on its members.

West Texans…get out your tin-foil jockstraps!

This just pisses me off:

Republicans in the Senate, in their ever expanding mission to screw the American worker, blocked consideration today of H.R. 2831, the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act in a 56-42 cloture vote (Reid voted against cloture for procedural reasons, so he can bring the bill back to the floor in the future).

As if there were any question about what the right vote for American workers was, look at how endangered Republicans Coleman, Collins, Smith, and Sununu voted. Yup, with the Democrats. The Maverick, however, showed his independence again by not showing up to vote, but had he bothered to be there, he says he’d have voted against it:

“I am all in favor of pay equity for women, but this kind of legislation, as is typical of what’s being proposed by my friends on the other side of the aisle, opens us up to lawsuits for all kinds of problems,” the expected GOP presidential nominee told reporters. “This is government playing a much, much greater role in the business of a private enterprise system.”

One would think that the Senator hadn’t actually read the bill. Of course, if you listened to the Republicans during the floor debate, you’d think none of them had. They would have you believe–as they would on just about any civil rights issue–that it’s about greedy trial lawyers.

Link to the rest of mcjoans post at KOS http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..305/502087

You seriously can’t make this shit up…

CIA Foresaw Interrogation Issues
Agency Considered Investigations ‘Virtually Inevitable

i think you’ve sized it up nicely

have the wapoo version of that story up in the news box

Hmm…should we say it’s spread by the ventilation system or by hotel sample shampoos/body washes?

It’s sometimes called the George Costanza-Syndrome…as opposed to the Bushausen Syndrome by Proxy.

tis big of ya, kirk, thank ye

From the CIA article…

Asked for comment, CIA spokesman George Little said, “Weighing relevant legal factors at the start of any new program is not only logical but is the responsible thing to do. Unfortunately, the fact that people and organizations follow the law does not prevent them from becoming the subject of litigation later on.”

But Curt Goering, senior deputy executive director of Amnesty International USA, which is involved in the lawsuit, said the flow of documents shows that the Bush administration “didn’t go into this system blind and they didn’t build this system blind,” adding: “It appears to be a calculated and calibrated effort to justify the unjustifiable.”

Kirk, this may be of interest to ya..

The Torture Election: Fighting for the Soul of the American Psychological Association

In a surprising turn of events, New York psychologist Steven Reisner won over 30% of the votes in the mail balloting for nominations for the presidency of the American Psychological Association (APA), as announced at the beginning of April. This represented more votes than any other candidate running.

Dr. Reisner, a psychoanalyst, is a Senior Faculty member and Supervisor at the International Trauma Studies Program, an Adjunct Professor of Psychology and Education at Columbia University, and a consultant to the United Nations on stress and trauma. As a key leader of Psychologists for an Ethical Psychology, he is also a leading critic of APA’s position on torture and interrogations.

“I am all in favor of pay equity for women”

Except when it comes to making people actually responsible for doing it, that is!

” but this kind of legislation, as is typical of what’s being proposed by my friends on the other side of the aisle, opens us up to lawsuits for all kinds of problems,” the expected GOP presidential nominee told reporters.

Yeah…lawsuits for problems like…pay equity for women!

F*CKER!

West Texans…get out your tin-foil jockstraps!

Reversible helmets?

ES, that is great forking news.

We’re gonna see the Bush Reich run out of clinic.

The CIA said it had identified more than 7,000 pages of classified memos, e-mails and other records relating to its secret prison and interrogation program, but maintained that the materials cannot be released because they relate to, in part, communications between CIA and Justice Department attorneys or discussions with the White House.

Once again, they would not be able to withhold this stuff from an impeachment inquiry. HINT. FUCKING. HINT. HELLO, NANCY and JOHN.

whose couch? our couch! (this hour)

Impeach a file clerk or something for petes sake!

Good Suz that story needs to be shouted about… the bill is in response to the supreme court denying Lilly Ledbetter case. And the rethuglians say “liberal judges making law from the bench” these wingnut judges are destroying workers rights that were so hard won in the past…. This election is all about the supreme court… they have already set back the middle class years!

I’m nor sure what Gaza compares to most directly in 20th century events. I’ve called the situation there “the Siege of Gazagrad,” comparing it to the German siege of Leningrad during WWII. Essentially, the Germans blockaded a large city for three years, after their attempt to take it by assault failed in the late summer of 1941. The analogy between Gaza and Leningrad is pretty loose, though.

It isn’t Iraeli policy to kill all the people there, but it is Israeli policy to make life all but totally untenable for the inhabitants of Gaza. Hebron is pretty much the same.

It almost sounds like an Indian reservation.

As several of us had alluded, ET, the Warsaw Ghetto is an apt analogy…!

Well on that sad note I will say good night to all you good pups… keep up the fight we must take our country back from these thieves and this next election is only the beginning!

Good NIGHT

folks, off to sleep here….beware the molluscofowliscts….

just published this to the news box

g’ nite nahant.

nite nahant

g’nite kirk, don’t be shellfish and hog all the blankies

g’nite nahant

Aloha, nahant and Doc!

Per wiki…

The Warsaw Ghetto was established by the German Governor-General Hans Frank on October 16, 1940. At this time, the population of the Ghetto was estimated to be 440,000 people, about 38% of the population of Warsaw. However, the size of the Ghetto was about 4.5% of the size of Warsaw. Nazis then closed off the Warsaw Ghetto from the outside world in 1940, building a wall with armed guards.
During the next year and a half, thousands of the Polish Jews as well as some Romani people[2] from smaller cities and the countryside were brought into the Ghetto, while diseases (especially typhoid) and starvation kept the inhabitants at about the same number.

Well one more entry hot from the email tubz:

Only Removing Pelosi NOW Can Stop Congress From Lying Down Yet Again

The latest indications are that Congress is determined to cave in yet again to the constitutional criminals in the White House, still too cowardly, even after 5 years of lies upon lies, war crimes upon war crimes, to put their foot down on the endlessly escalating debacle in Iraq. Not only are they talking about coughing up another 100 billion of debt for our us, our children and our grandchildren, they are talking about making it 170 billion.

Not even bothering with the fig leaf of meaningless so-called benchmarks, apparently they are just planning to surrender without even a token fight this time, as if this entire two year session of Congress was just about kicking the will of the people down the road like a can. If we believed for one second they would to ANYTHING to stop the vain lunacy in Iraq we were played for total fools. Even now they have total power to control the funding and they are still too scared to exercise it.

But the good news is that there is something enormously effective we can do to stop them in their cowardly tracks. And that is . . . to defeat Nancy Pelosi in the Democratic primary in the 8th district of California on June 3. There is absolutely NOTHING else that will have any real impact at all, until we can demonstrate that even the Speaker of the House can be removed within their own party if they are perversely determined to be derelict in their duty to we the people and our Constitution.

Remove Pelosi Ad: http://www.shirley08.com/donations_radio.php

On the page above you can listen to Shirley Golub’s new radio ad, where you can also make a donation on the same page to change the course of American political history. Is it a controversial spot? You bet it is. She calls Pelosi out as the political coward that Pelosi is, using those exact words. Enough of the excuses. Enough of apologizing for cowardice. Call the thing what it is. And that is what Shirley Golub is doing.

This courageous woman is the ONLY competitor in the 8th district Democratic primary on June 3 against Pelosi, and ONLY if Golub wins can we stop the ruinous and indefensible occupation in the Middle East, force impeachment hearings immediately, and everything else.
Only Pelosi’s defeat will put such a fear of the electorate and their revenge at the polls into the hearts of all gutless wonders who presume to represent us. Those are the stakes.

We need to throw everything we’ve got into this primary election.
Please make the most generous donation you can to help get this radio spot on every possible station in San Francisco.

For her part, Shirley Golub is standing strong as an amazing candidate, showing her leadership in every possible way. She isn’t just talking about fighting on the issues, she’s doing practical organizing to rally the support of her constituents. She stepped up to the plate to sponsor the upcoming Beach Impeach event this coming Saturday, April 26 at Ocean Beach at 10:30 AM, where for the first time we will spell out the words “IMPEACH BOTH!!!”, in letters so big you can see them from space.

Shirley Golub is also producing the new impeachment play as a full theatrical production at a 500 seat theater in S.F., as an inspirational, educational and mobilizing vehicle. And we hear other production companies all over the country are working on mounting their own productions, and you can download the amazing script here.

Download Impeachment Play Script: http://www.shirley08.com/I.pdf

Why should we believe that anything is going to happen in November to finally put an end to the strategic disaster in Iraq. No remaining Democratic presidential candidate is calling for an immediate end to hostilities. And Congress isn’t going to do a damn thing, except keep rolling over for whatever the war profiteers want, 100 billion dollars at a whop. If they won’t put their foot down now, then we are stuck with a roll over Congress as long as all the SAME cowards are in office.

How pathetic to hear them ALL talking about “new direction” and “change” and all those worthless as garbage slogans, as if the same collaborators would bring us anything different if we were so foolish as to elect them again. Even McCain says he’s the “change” candidate, when in fact he represents NO change whatsoever, and is even practicing the same snickering chuckle as Bush.

Remove Pelosi Ad: http://www.shirley08.com/donations_radio.php

If we won’t put our foot down now, in San Francisco on June 3, it will just continue as more of the same and worse, of that you can be sure. This is our only real chance to save ourselves. We’d better take it. Please make a donation to Shirley Golub now while there is still time.

Paid for by Shirley Golub for Congress

Please take action NOW, so we can win all victories that are supposed to be ours, and forward this alert as widely as possible.

If you would like to get alerts like these, you can do so at http://www.shirley08.com/in.htm

nite doctor

Wow.. This is a very bold technique for political ad, imo.. Ron Paul ad which aired in PA.

Graded exams and term papers all day yesterday and today. The weather was beautiful, though. Got up above 60 degrees outside, and up to about 90 in my greenhouse.

Amazing! Great ad!

David Swanson and Elizebeth de la Vega spoke to us here tonighr in SLO Town. She mentioned the dodging that Mr. Mueller did in response the Henry Wexlers questions tonight. As a former 20 year federal prosecutor she smelled he was not coming clean. The dam may be cracking she thinks.

Video tapes were made of the presentation so if you would like to show it to groups in your area e-mail Matt Wedin slo911@email.com and ask for the Impeachment video which was the topic. She had her book which FDL Salon reviewed February 11th, 2008. It was powerful. David’s speech will be up soon at afterdowningstreet.org

Who would have guessed Max Headroom would grow up to be a Libertarian. /s

Quite a stack, ET! The rigors of the Ivory Tower, eh?

Well, I shall bid ya’ll a fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!!

aloha ct
time for me to bail myself, g’nite all

CT – what Ivory tower? I do love those kids, though.

there’s something on my mind – if there are still any Clinton apologists around who liked to explain away HRC’s parroting of Cheney’s right-wing-talking-points”all options are on the table” wrt to the nonexistent ‘threat’from Iran … maybe you could try explaining away “obliterate”?

On primary election day in Pennsylvania, even with polls showing her well ahead in that state, Hillary went lower in her grab for votes. Seizing upon a question as to how she would respond to a nuclear attack by Iran, which doesn’t have nuclear weapons, on Israel, which does, Hillary mocked reasoned discourse by promising to “totally obliterate them,” in an apparent reference to the population of Iran. That is not a word gaffe; it is an assertion of the right of our nation to commit genocide on an unprecedented scale.

nite tuttle
nite suzanne. welcome back

Emptywheel had the best post and thread on that subject I could find.

1,823 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEz ON AND ON AND…

Early Mornin’ Firepup Freedom Fighters:

Good mornin’ Firepups…I’m workin’ tanite so I ken only pop in and out. Has anyone seen the Terry McAuliffe TV spot for Fox News? Now let’s look at this for a moment. First off way back when, the McClinton aparachuks tried to set up a Democratic Party primary debate on Fox News usin’ the Black caucus as a front. Then Mrs. McClinton and her husband sit down with Rupert Murdock and pimp up $4million for the clinton library (yeah, sure you betcha). Then Mrs. McClinton gives a big hug to McCain sayin’ he’s more’n qualified ta be president and Obama is….well, not sure. Then McClinton sits down with Richard Scaife and gives him a big smooch in return for…oh, an endorsement, how nice!! And now the head of the McClinton campaign is shillin’ for Fox News!! JEEEzus H. keeeRIST on a God damned crutch…how long before the McClinton supporters around here figure out that she ain’t a Democrat. I’m bettin’ she either pulls a Lieberman and runs as McCrazy’s VP or stailks out of the Denver Convention as an “independant” candidate. And come on, bring some a that “misogynist” shit my way…I surely know what ta do with it!!

Are Citizens Selise and Raven out there tanight…I finished readin’ Hamsher’s post and comments of March 19…I haven’t had so much trouble gettin’ through somethin’ since I tried ta read “Atlas Shrugged”. What the fuck is goin’ on with Sister Jane and Brother Pachacutec…they come off like the leaders of the “Kool Kidz” clique??!!! God I miss brother kiddo and sister Lahoma.

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THERE ARE AGENT PROVOCATEURS AROUND AND ONE OF ‘EM IS RUNNIN’ FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION!!

Hillary mocked reasoned discourse by promising to “totally obliterate them,” in an apparent reference to the population of Iran. That is not a word gaffe; it is an assertion of the right of our nation to commit genocide on an unprecedented scale.

In the past week, Hillary has spoken words to that effect in televised public appearances, including on Countdown on Monday.

Obviously, nuking Iran is not a high priority with ordinary Americans. And, I doubt that Hillary suddenly wokeup one day and said to herself, “I bet it’d get me a lot of votes to tell people how I’d obliterate Iran if they attacked Israel.” So, who planted the idea, and who are he intended audience?

Obviously, this is neocon and A*P*C talk. Among Hillary’s advisors are Martin Indyk, Director of the Saban Center for Mideast Policy at Brookings. Also, Michael O’Hanlon, an affiliate of the Saban Center. And, Haim Saban, the Saban Center’s founding contributor is a major fund raiser for Hillary. According to Saban: “I’m a one-issue guy and my issue is Israel.” Also “On the issues of security and terrorism I am a total hawk.”

So the Saban Center and their minions in her campaign is a possible avenue for such neocon nonsense to enter into Hillary’s foreign-policy vision. And, again I think her audience is A*P*C and the Serious People in the U.S. Foreign Policy Establishment. What she is trying to do IMHO is please that bunch by guaranteeing Israel’s nuclear monopoly in the region, and perhaps get some cred with the MSM for having more swagger and balls than her competitors.

Ready to be a war criminal on day one.

Right on Sister!!

Interesting theme…but the animation makes Paul look like Pinocchio or maybe an animated “Mr. Lincoln Speaks” from Disneyland. A live version would have been better.

The fact that Paul is still plugging away and got about 10% in Pennsylvanis (and Huckabee got 15%) suggests a real undercurrent of resistance in the Republican ranks. The Democrats outdrew the Republicans overall by 3:1…and one had to be registered as a Democrat to vote in Pennsylvania for the Dems. McCains got the nomination wrapped up yet still there are people coming out to “protest” his ascension.

Not to get overconfident (in fact, voter outreach to bring back those lost supporters would be essential),,,but even if 25% of Hillary’s vote stayed home, and 25% voted for McCain…and he drew across only half her supporters…those numbers would be double what the Republicans drew PLUS the disenchanted Hillary voters.

All along, Democrats have told their candidates to run against McCain and not each other.
Hillary is doing just that, by running to his Right flank.

She seems strangely comfortable there.

Citizen Norske, I’m no sister but you can still call me flower child.

Cinnamonape – According to the official PA results page.. Paul 15.9% and Huckster 11.4..

I agree the GOPers are in deep trouble no matter how they slice it.

What gets me is even the Republican warmongers try and mute their tub-thumping when asked such questions. They’ll say “I can gaurantee that it’ll never reach that situation, we’ll take out their production facilities long before they are able to threaten Israel”…or such.

When Hillary is asked such questions it’s balls-on…full-speed-ahead! “Annihilation! Every man-jack of them, Group Capt. Mandrake!”

Well the flood waters are high.. Time for me to get a little shut eye and try kayaking unchartered waters in the morning..

g’ nite firedogs

nite eureka
be safe and sorta dry

At best, she’s so afraid of looking weak, she forgot what strength is.

Sorry, Citizen ES…I figured since you were intelligent, sensitive and not timid with the snark , you were a SISTER hippie not a misogynist, long haired, commie lovin’ girly-man. Lord won’t we have lotsa fun in the re-education camps (NOT)!!!

Sorry got those results inverted in my noggin…I remembered it was about 25% of the total. As much as the Republicans and the MSM want to suggest that McCain is this big juggernaut…there seems to be a pretty real disenchantment deep within the party ranks. These are folks that aren’t simply staying at home…they are coming out to register a “protest vote”. That’s serious. Who knows what they’ll do in Fall.

Off to Slumberland, too. Goodnight FireDogs!

nite cinnamonape
i’m out, too

One More Finale!
Imagine Ben Stein Bankrupt

It Isn’t Hard To Do!