DEZ!

I voted this morning at 10:30 with Hillary supporters chanting as I walked to the entrance. NW Penna., the part of the state James Carville describes as Alabama. Mostly senior citizens at the time, but no long line as it took only about 10 minutes. Seemed to be more voting machines than usual, the touch screens, and the usual under-the-breathe swearing because people don’t like them, including me. All in all a very normal voting experience.

Beautiful sunny day here in PA-03. Gunna go down and write-in kucinich.

Digg it

How is the primary done in PA; can GOPrs cross-over and vote in the primary?

WHY?!!!!!!!!!!

Oh the Humanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nope, it’s closed.

it is not sunny here boo,it hasnt been cept twice in a month,and my Camelia bush ,somehow blew over last night…….i injured my left wrist,and my right one was operated on 2 years ago…..wah…..i need another pair of hands,just sayin

no one else to vote for?

but we have NEW BABY calves in the back pasture so life is good

Nope.

March 23 was the last day to register or change registration. Anything after that is set in stone.

Just downloaded a sample ballot from my district. News to me—we have a 4 way race for state treasurer. I don’t know who ANY of them are. I not only have to vote for the candidates, but also have to vote for the delegates, and of course, being new here, I don’t know who any of them are.

I passed by one polling place on the way into the office today and several people hanging out outside—beautiful day. It should bode a large turnout.

So will you vote for the winner in Nov.?

Life expectancy is dropping for some US women, especially poor and rural ones. Seems to me that “pre-existing condition” question that Elizabeth Edwards asked John McCain to answer just got even more relevant, despite his attempt at dismissive snippiness.
——————–
my family and i were in the medical labatory biz for 48 years…my Dad,felt ,that blood levels of cotisol,the fight or flight hormone was a major cause of the disease process( fear) my peeps …constant fear mongering and stress will slowly kill us,and make our lives SUKKY if it doesnt…

I don’t see a place for write-ins. At least not on the sample ballot. We’ll see.

dayum,thats cortisol

I went at 11:15 and all ready about 25% of those registered voted.

Has there been any rumors or news about people registering as Dem. to vote for Hillary, only for the primary? Like in Texas.

G’mornin’ everyone. The sun is out in MN. Booyah!

Meanwhile, problems with PA voting machines.

Should I worry that my bank’s drive-through deposit equipment is made by Diebold?

A couple of tidbits from the Boston Glob:

The races ahead for those who are ready to move on.

A Nixon gives money to the Obama Campaign. Who’d a thunk it?

Promise you won’t vote for Nader, Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No. Why? Because at least there is a PAPER TRAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does Rush Limbaugh have a large audience in PA?

Good news. Right now John Sidney McCain III has it better than he will have it at any time in the remainder of this election cycle. It won’t get any better than this…….so I’m not really worried about his relative popularity at this point. There is still an incredibly long way to go and once the Democratic candidate has been decided upon, (Obama), people are going to see how they match up head to head and I don’t think there is anything in he McSame store that he is selling that people are at all interested in buying.

But, please Pennsylvania, give us a definitive outcome to end this race once and for all.

Just dreamed up a new name for Ralph: The Terminader. Bwahahahaha!

Not much. They would have had to do that a month ago in a very premeditated way.

I’m discovering that there are a lot of folks who are registered R almost because they have to for their work. I have 2 in my congregation who are as dem as can be but registered R’s. One worked for the school district for eons, the other is a judge. I’m learning lots of new stuff about how strange PA politics are.

i want to say a word about,Cindy McCain,it was reported her company ,made 300 million dollars per YEAR….folks any acct,will tell you a BIZ like that is worth AT LEAST …10X EARNINGS…she is the sole heir to that fortune…she is worth WAY MORE than 100,000,000.00 dollars…more like 2 TO 3 BILLION at least
why is MCSHIT taking social security and 100% medical dissability,cannot that money go to those who NEED IT? just sayin

I was just googleing for a sample ballot and FDL came up #1, lol.

This, of course, assumes that once the deposit leaves one’s hands, being sucked up the tube, supposedly into the bank, that a paper trail will be forthcoming. Dang! Where’d I put my tinfoil hat?

PERISH THE THOUGHT!!!!!

I would never do such a thing.

It’s the SUPREME COURT. Period. (how many times have I typed those words here? Lost count.)

good un!

He takes it because he can. He is, afterall, a Republic.

I don’t know I’m from Texas.

they are NOT GENEROUS TO CHARITY either….ewwwwwwwwww they grotesque peeps imo

funny.

Here’s mine. (just in case you might be interested)

Has there been any rumors or news about people registering as Dem. to vote for Hillary, only for the primary? Like in Texas.

I was forwarded an email from an old classmate (R) that had been floating through the rightosphere; but imo while he would bother to forward the email to friends, I don’t think he’d bother to change his registration by deadline and then take himself to the polls today to vote.

Via TPM mentioned in the last thread. McCain helping an Arizona land developer.

The most delicate of the three transactions for the McCain camp is undoubtedly the Army deal: an old base in Monterey County, California called Fort Ord. Helped along by a meeting with an Army official set up by a McCain aide, Diamond got the inside track on the land, which ultimately made him a $20 million profit. McCain had also written a letter to the city of Seaside, California, enthusiastically recommending Diamond, who was making a bid to buy Fort Ord’s two golf courses that had been acquired by the city.

Sound like some pretty special treatment for a multi-millionaire campaign contributor? Not so, says the McCain camp. Any average Joe Arizonan making a bid for a luxury resort in another state would be sure to get the senator’s assistance:

A spokeswoman for Mr. McCain, Jill Hazelbaker, said the senator, now the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, “had done nothing for Mr. Diamond that he would not do for any other Arizona citizen.”…

To paraphrase Calvin Coolidge, for John McCain the business of America is business as usual.

That’s cronyism on a scale that would make a Bush proud.

And just to help keep down voter turnout in Pennsylvania, we have David Brooks:

There’s something about obsessing about a campaign that doesn’t exactly arouse the imaginative faculties.

As always, the story is about him and his not exactly arousing writing.

hope Christy doesnt mind this
saw it at Counterpunch

The New Print Edition of CounterPunch, Only for Our Newsletter Subscribers!

War Hero? Meet the Real John McCain:
North Vietnam’s Go-To Collaborator

What actually happened in his POW camp that twisted John McCain and made him the unstable bully he is today? Was it abuse, as he claims, or was it the fact that he collaborated extensively and has to cover up? In this EXCLUSIVE expose, Vietnam war historian Douglas Valentine gives us the answer. Read how the Vietnamese protected and promoted him and how in return Hanoi John danced to their tune. McCain was on Vietnamese radio so often he was tagged as “the PW Songbird”

Thanks. Also funny, I’ve seen signs around for a delegate.

Though I do think that there are a lot of folks who felt they had to register R for “business” reasons who may have re-registered as D. because they really want to vote D in this one. That has not been explored much on all of the blogs I’ve read—not even by the PA bloggers.

well paid sawed off shrimpie LIAR
1,500,000.00 per year…
what him worry?

That’s cronyism on a scale that would make a Bush proud.

What gets me is that this comes across as just a somewhat more sophisticated dodge than the one that got Rick Renzi indicted.

What do we call that “POW-boating”?

Oh, if I could I would so be there..I love calves..I miss that we no longer have livestock. Spring is so great(now, having babies in February is no walk in the park, but in april and May, hoooweeee doggies).

Mornin Redd,

We have a nice day here as well after a not so great period.

I’ll take Hillary plus 10 if no one has it yet.

Just finished reading Kevin Phillip’s new book that he discussed here..
Scared the shit out of me- and I’m not easily scared..He really thinks that we’re in for thirty years of shit economically. He also suspects that the next president will be a one termer as the economic storm continues to blow across the land…He thinks that the days of American supremacy have ended (except of course for military supremacy that he doesn’t get into.)

NYT has a great editorial on gw Clusterfuck’s latest bull shit on the environment- which I’m sure you read.

Happy election day.

Oh, one more thing, Phillips presents some interesting info on Obama’s ties to Wall Street and the NYC finance community as well as the Illinois Coal Industry- worth looking at.

i wonder WHAT the whole story is,mind you i would sing MY ASS off too,but im no hero…”g”

OT - chimpy presser live on CNN

Or maybe “song-birding”.

i shall post them at my blog for VICARIOUS thrills,they keep me sane,in this insane world

I keep hearing the guy in the next cube talking about how this isn’t a bad recession, it won’t be as bad as the 70s and certainly not like the Depression … and I laugh, because he isn’t really old enough to remember either one, and clearly missed the last one (the 90s) too. Of course, he also thinks the stock market and housing prices will recover by the end of the year. (He plays the market. Constantly.)

Brooks is channeling the old poem “The world is too much with us late and soon.”- but of course he misses all the most important connections.

My husband was watching “The Manchurian Candidate”(the old one) last night and I had to leave the room. It just creeped me out so much.

yea mebbe thats why ..he DONT WEAR da flag pin so much…”g”

Diamond is McCain’s Best Friend.

Brooks claims to love the middle ages when man was more in touch with the light of day and the cold of night—–He can have it all back by turning off his fuckin electricity- that will give him an intimate connection.

yup and ON THE BEACH from the same era…looks like we are heading back there
with HILLARY BRANDISHING,her nukes

McCain: Champion for the Advantaged!

Brooks’ contribution today was a long-winded riff on C.S. Lewis, “other” writers and historians (he’s very careful about sourcing, don’t you know) and how the magical thinking attributed to medieval life was so much more fulfilling than today’s fact-obsessed, romance-less world. All in the context of him finding American presidential election campaigns boring. (So why vote, eh?)

Funny, I would have thought that Lewis’ friend and Oxford contemporary, J.R.R. Tolkien, would be more Bobo’s style. He’s such a Hobbity sort of fellow.

I’m afraid I agree about it being one term - people are looking for someone to do a massive cleanup, but how can anyone even begin to get their arms around all the mess and grab a broom at the same time? Impossible. Just think of all the different things that next person should deal with: The war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, the economy in general and the mortage crisis in particular, education, the war on the Constitution, the DOJ…this list just gets heavier and heavier. The person would have to be like that Hindu goddess with a thousand arms just to make a grab at it.

Multi faceted McCain.

Anyone else think Hil had her “Dean Scream” moment last night on KO, laughing like a maniac when questioned about Scaife and going on and on about obliterating Iran?

Someone ought to ask him if he wants to go without his microwave and his CD player and the heated leather seats in his luxury car. That should shut him up fast.

Yep - first time we ever had a calf to raise, I made the mistake of putting feed into my hand and putting it in his mouth to get him to learn to eat. Big mistake — I couldn’t feet my arm for about thirty minutes after that.

1,820 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

Citizen babrara:

“The sun is out in MN. Booyah!!”

Where in Minnesita is the sun shinin’…over here in the St. Croix River Valley, it’s still drizzlin’ like a big runny nose!! I jest hope the temps stay up in northern MN…walleyes need a good long spawn this year er I’m gunna be crabbier’n usual!

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…AND KEEP THOSE BASTARDS AWAY FROM MY FISHIN’ HOLES!!

Though I do think that there are a lot of folks who felt they had to register R for “business” reasons who may have re-registered as D. because they really want to vote D in this one. That has not been explored much on all of the blogs I’ve read—not even by the PA bloggers.

I’ve never read anything about it before either.

All we have to do is start showing pictures, lots and lots of pictures of McSame’s 8 houses. How do you think Joe sixpack is going to take to that when he struggles to fill the gas tank?

If we can’t beat that SOB we are SO doomed!

Punaise would be proud.

Conservatives all like to mention Lewis because he’s a biggy among the fundies- who don’t understand him AT ALL. Probably Brooks doesn’t either…His book “Mere Christianity” was done while he was on the radio explaining christianity to radio listers. He also did some more serious work on the subject that Brooks might not like at all.

I agree with you in part. I’m hopeful that Obama is smart enough and strategic enough to target a few key areas in which to succeed and show he is moving the country in the right direction and get some mo’ going to carry into a second term, possibly. But you’re right, it will be tough for anyone wanting to change direction, not swim in more of the same.

Cackles don’t count.. Especially when it’s about Scaife support or bombing nations into oblivion…. The GOP MSM won’t allow it, even on KO.

From what I heard this am, they have to register. I heard that alot of Rs had registered dem so they could mess up the outcome and be a part of Rush Operation Chaos. Apparently, quite up front about that tactic.

Whomever gets it will have to very publicly set the expectations and timetable low—be very explicit about the amount of damage done and how long it will take to clean up. Then they need to start doing the work rather quickly.

Gee, RevDeb, that’s such a good point cheap shot! :P

Oh, honey, I wish you walleyes in abundance! *g*

South suburban (sigh) Twin Cities metro. Had a whopping thunder-boomer storm last night.

Yeah some of the giggling was an OK response- but one of the giggles was really creepy given what KO was sayin at the time. Not her best moment.

he loves the middle ages ,cause they could wear these,and look much taller and more important

http://scribalterror.blogs.com.....log2_2.jpg

I get it, no poo-slinging but keep bringing this fucking bulklshit up. Jesus

hope Christy doesnt mind this
saw it at Counterpunch

The New Print Edition of CounterPunch, Only for Our Newsletter Subscribers!

War Hero? Meet the Real John McCain:
North Vietnam’s Go-To Collaborator

What actually happened in his POW camp that twisted John McCain and made him the unstable bully he is today? Was it abuse, as he claims, or was it the fact that he collaborated extensively and has to cover up? In this EXCLUSIVE expose, Vietnam war historian Douglas Valentine gives us the answer. Read how the Vietnamese protected and promoted him and how in return Hanoi John danced to their tune. McCain was on Vietnamese radio so often he was tagged as “the PW Songbird”

If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound?

Very doubtful that all of the major networks are going to play and replay that video like they did Dean. Not gonna happen.

Yes, Laura Ingraham is bragging out it.

i have same idea
Mrs ( isteal drugs from my own charity)
is worth 2 TO 3 BILLION on MY CALCULATOR

Excellent film. A bit dated, owing to budget restrictions, but far better than the remake (though not, I think, because of Denzel Washington’s acting).

As England’s Cambridge Spies (Burgess, McLean, Philby and Blunt) proved, a good mole can do many things far more damaging than musketry. As Karl’s own career vividly demonstrates, a good mole can burrow into a political opponent’s campaign as easily as he can into his foreign adversary’s bureaucracy.

I don’t think we’ve reached the pain apex yet in this Clusterfuck the politicians have given us. The most dangerous thing the new prez can do is to take up where BUSH leaves off with the “We’re making progress” bullshit.

i would like to know…i think he is certifiable

I’m a big believer in not being delusional - I think whoever gets the nomination (and let’s all make sure that we do our part to get the Democratic voters to the ballot stations on Election Day because that is where the deal gets done)needs to come out right on the first day after they get the nomination and say, “Folks, we are in one hell of a mess. And it’s going to take more than four years to get ‘er done. I need all the help I can get; which means that everyone in Congress has to be helpful. If you feel that your Rep. or Senator is not going to be helpful, then make sure when you get into the voting booth in November that you send me people who will be helpful. Otherwise, this will be a whole lot more of the same and I don’t think as a country we can stand any more of the same.”

If we can’t beat that SOB we are SO doomed!

I know I know!! he doesn’t even have his own party’s devotion.

Do you work near me? I’m hearing the same conversation.

You’d like to know what? Here, why don;t we just link to this page for the REAL truth.

This is the work of Ted Sampley, you want to be associated with him be my guest. This stuff is worse than stupid.

It’s likely that conditions will be WORSE at the end of the first term of the next prez than they will be at the beginning. Tough to run for re-election on that thin gruel.

works for me.

did you think my comment was “delusional”? ouch.

Tony Snow has a column on CNN here. There is a place to comment, supposedly, but mine doesn’t show yet. Something like: Tony Snow sneered at and lied to the American people from his podium at the White House. CNN thinks we should care what he says? Shame.

I’m sure CNN would like to know what we think of their new shill.

I’m seeing the stuff about McBush singin at the Hanoi Hilton in many places on the net. Haven’t seen it on teevee yet- but someone must be pushin it.

I’m sure CNN would like to know what we think of their new shill

You have a higher opinion of CNN than I do. I don’t think they dive a damn what we think.

I’m seeing the stuff about McBush singin at the Hanoi Hilton in many places on the net. Haven’t seen it on teevee yet- but someone must be pushin it.

well it’s a hideous accusation to make without showing the proof.

There’s a tough nut for McBush in the torture issue- connected with the fact that HE was tortured. Real torture probably doesn’t work out like Hollywood torture where the hero just spits in the faces of the captors and refuses to say anything.

This asshole and his posse at the POW/MIA League have been at it for years. I will say it again, McCain has plenty of legitimate problems that can be the focus, to stoop to the level of these swiftboat scumbags is something even Hillary wouldn’t do. . . well, in a pinch. . .

Either Hil’s group is pushing it or McBush’s group is pushing it themselves in a Rovian attempt to martyr themselves. Ala when Rove bugged his own office, when Lieberman accused Lamont of hacking his website…

I can’t seem to get past the belief that McCain is the Pugs’ sacrificial goat in this election. Lotza folks seem to agree this is a one-term presidency, whoever gets the nod. Would Pugs really sacrifice one of their top-tier lapdogs? There’s more to this than meets the cynical eye.

Any journalist in Vietnam tracking down the stories of McCain’s collaborating with his captors?

Oh no, not at all. As a matter of fact, mine was - can you imagine anyone getting out there and saying to the electorate - “throw out your dead”? Jimmy Carter is a great and good man, probably the first truly honest and good many we ever had as president - Congress destroyed him. We are now in the most dangerous place this country has ever been in since it got started - right up there with the period of the War Between the States. The very foundations of this country have been eroded and corrupted. We won’t even start to talk about the economy and the wars. To get that filth taken care of is, in my estimation, Job One. But do we have people in Congress with the guts to take out the shovels and brooms and backhoes to do it?

Everyone knows that a Republican, most anyway, would sell out their country to make a buck or protect their sorry butts. Did McCain sell out his comrades at the Hanoi Hilton?

1,820 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

Citizen dosido:

“…target a few areas in which to succeed and show he’s moving the country in the right direction and get some ‘mo going into a second term.”

I think that Clinton incrementalism is the last thing a new leader needs to follow in order to solidify his support and gain acceptance of change. My example is 1933-34 in the first 100 days of the FDR first term…he had solid majorities in Congress and the country was sufferin’ as much as it’s gunna be in January of 2009…he took a page from “Crisis Capitalism” and rammed a well thought out, comprehensive reform package beginnin’ with bankin’ and securities regulation thru and the corporate fascists didn’t know where ta begin ta attack because people were gettin’ fed and gettin’ money in their pockets.

That’s what Obama’s gotta do and that’s why gettin’ the largest majorities possible in both houses of congress is so important. I certainly hope Obama is NOT timid and worried about a second term…good policy and good legislation make good politics. Feed the people and their hearts and minds will follow ya outta the kitchen and right through hell.

“…I’m hopeful that Obama is smart enough…” Jesus, that’s the last thing ya gotta worry about is his intelligence, particularly is political intelligence…he’s WAAAy ahead of any of us.

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, FEAR IS JEST A WORD!!

You are serious aren’t you?

I think the GOP doesn’t give a rat’s a** who gets the shot this time and they are willing to pat John-boy on the head, give him minimal help and if he wins then whoopdeedoo. They know they’ve messed things up so much that one term with McCain is the best they can hope for in terms of keeping the gravy train going for themselves and keeping themselves out of court.

With you! My hope is that the voter outrage will continue to cleanse DC.

I didn’t know this until yesterday that there was/is a lot of voter anger in PA and many senior folks were shown the door in recent elections. Good on ‘em, PA folks!

Oooo…thanks for the great video!!

Here is some fun news…hmmm…I wonder if it’s real…looks kinda weird:

http://www.abc15.com/mediacent.....navCatId=3

Obama site hacked, redirects clicks to Clinton’s site
Cross-site scripting bug fixed, but researchers say others exist
By Gregg Keizer

April 21, 2008 (Computerworld) A cross-site scripting vulnerability in the social networking section of Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign site was exploited over the weekend to redirect users to the URL of rival Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.), researchers claimed today.

According to the U.K.-based antifraud company Netcraft Ltd., someone identified only as “Mox” confessed to the hack in an entry on the Community Blogs section on the Obama site Sunday. Obama, an Illinois Democrat, leads Clinton in the race for the party’s presidential nomination. The site exploit occurred just before this week’s big Pennsylvania primary.

“You may also be wondering, how did you get Hillary’s site to appear where Obama’s should be?” wrote Mox. “The answer to that is, through the magical world of Cross Site Scripting.”
anybody read this????????

Hi Norske!

You make great points. Make no mistake, I want our next president to be a bold reformist!