Comments on: Is the Supreme Court About to Take Away Some Prosecutorial Discretion? http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:29:38 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: strider7 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402536 strider7 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:31:55 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402536 <p>never mind, wiki says he was in on the whitewater investigations and the clinton impeachment.He was approved by the senate by 99 to 1. The 1 being Hillary.Also a big part of the patriot act.<br /> I was only wondering because of all the attention that is being paid to yoo and bybee.Sounds like he was right there with em all.</p> never mind, wiki says he was in on the whitewater investigations and the clinton impeachment.He was approved by the senate by 99 to 1. The 1 being Hillary.Also a big part of the patriot act.
I was only wondering because of all the attention that is being paid to yoo and bybee.Sounds like he was right there with em all.

]]> By: strider7 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402492 strider7 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:13:31 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402492 <p>viet dinh is another olc lawyer?</p> viet dinh is another olc lawyer?

]]> By: NMvoiceofreason http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402465 NMvoiceofreason Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:58:44 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402465 <p>Not a chance they will limit prosecutors in any way, shape or form. What could be better judicial economy, than cutting these other efforts off at the knees, finding that prosecutors have the right to hide evidence by never listing it in the first place? This is no different than classifying the evidence, using it against you at trial, while being certain you never see it. Remember that this court was specifically appointed to sweep dirty messes under the rug and delay the day when issues are heard.</p> <p>There were no war crimes. We were never at war. We were simply authorized to use force. Only Congress can declare war, and they did not declare war.</p> Not a chance they will limit prosecutors in any way, shape or form. What could be better judicial economy, than cutting these other efforts off at the knees, finding that prosecutors have the right to hide evidence by never listing it in the first place? This is no different than classifying the evidence, using it against you at trial, while being certain you never see it. Remember that this court was specifically appointed to sweep dirty messes under the rug and delay the day when issues are heard.

There were no war crimes. We were never at war. We were simply authorized to use force. Only Congress can declare war, and they did not declare war.

]]> By: looseheadprop http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402173 looseheadprop Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:20:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402173 <p>if pron=porno then,<br /> yep<br /> yep, and<br /> yep</p> if pron=porno then,
yep
yep, and
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]]> By: scribe http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402164 scribe Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:18:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402164 <p>As if observing would give them much of an insight into whether the line between interrogation and torture had been crossed.</p> <p>Observing was a three-fold exercise:<br /> 1. It bound all of them into the same conspiracy - like getting “jumped in” to the gang, or handing the gangsta wannabe a gun/bat and telling him to whack person X b/c we need you to (and you’ll make your bones that way).<br /> 2. It was pron for them. (One wonders who cleaned up the stains…. Maybe that’s why they used the one captive’s head as a mop, with Pine-Sol.)<br /> 3. It allowed Addington to further check and weed out those not sufficiently hard-core, by watching for their negative reactions (if any).</p> As if observing would give them much of an insight into whether the line between interrogation and torture had been crossed.

Observing was a three-fold exercise:
1. It bound all of them into the same conspiracy – like getting “jumped in” to the gang, or handing the gangsta wannabe a gun/bat and telling him to whack person X b/c we need you to (and you’ll make your bones that way).
2. It was pron for them. (One wonders who cleaned up the stains…. Maybe that’s why they used the one captive’s head as a mop, with Pine-Sol.)
3. It allowed Addington to further check and weed out those not sufficiently hard-core, by watching for their negative reactions (if any).

]]> By: looseheadprop http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402128 looseheadprop Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:00:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402128 <p>They went to Gitmo to observe the techniques they were approving. The significance of this for me (aside from the revulsion I feel) is that it makes it impossible to claim that they did not know that their endorsement of these techniques would result in those techniques being applied so harshly </p> <p>Or some similar Nuremberg sounding defense</p> They went to Gitmo to observe the techniques they were approving. The significance of this for me (aside from the revulsion I feel) is that it makes it impossible to claim that they did not know that their endorsement of these techniques would result in those techniques being applied so harshly

Or some similar Nuremberg sounding defense

]]> By: TobyWollin http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402120 TobyWollin Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:55:12 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402120 <p>lhp - what were they doing there? Holding up points cards like judges at the Olympics? Sheesh…what will they do next…put firecrackers into frogs and blow them up?</p> lhp – what were they doing there? Holding up points cards like judges at the Olympics? Sheesh…what will they do next…put firecrackers into frogs and blow them up?

]]> By: looseheadprop http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402116 looseheadprop Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:54:50 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402116 <p>yes I do, and I also like that Mike Chertoff is no longer deciding what crimes will be prosecuted.</p> yes I do, and I also like that Mike Chertoff is no longer deciding what crimes will be prosecuted.

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402103 selise Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:46:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402103 <p>thank you so much for sharing your insights and experiences!</p> thank you so much for sharing your insights and experiences!

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402100 selise Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:45:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/21/is-the-supreme-court-about-to-take-away-some-prosecutorial-discretion/#comment-1402100 <p>hugh just added item #344.</p> <p>which by my rough calculations puts his list (using your standard of 10pt helvetica) - at 101 pages and over 80,000 words.</p> hugh just added item #344.

which by my rough calculations puts his list (using your standard of 10pt helvetica) – at 101 pages and over 80,000 words.

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